Surely it would be absurdly narrow minded to dismiss the offerings of firms such as WPL, Fayee, MN and several others as fundamentally unimprovable dross, good only for their bodyshells at best. It seems to me that the meteoric rise in quality, willingness to listen to and act upon customer feedback and sensible price policy demonstrated by these companies have effectively created a new bracket between toy and hobby grade. Yes, the RTR version of a particular model might be toy grade, but the parts are right there to build a hobby grade product at a very competitive price. It´s up to the hobby grade guys to react with better parts support, a more interesting range of products and fairer prices, or to ignore the upstarts and wait to see what happens. Well done, Phil - that was a great use of some down-time. What a lovely place - thanks for showing it to us.
Del, we can always rely on you to put a very well written reply together. There are lots of people out there that are very quick to jump on these models as cheap toy junk. The very people that will happily pay twice the cost of this model for bolt on shiny parts for their $500 truck that have no functional use what so ever. These do break, but you can fix them, the same as 99% of all other hobby grade RC's out there, the difference with these though, it will cost you a few £/$'s rather than 10's/100's of £/$ to fix. The place was so nice, I only had an hr or so to spare, but easily could have spent all day there!
@@TomleyRC You found tie to shoot all the footage needed to pt together a very good-looking video. I greatly enjoyed the views of the live axle moving relative to the chassis.
absolutely, with a few inexpensive upgrades these are very good. haven't done video of my MN-D90 yet, Fayee rims/tires are wider slightly shorter, oil shocks, 16 turns 2 mm solder each front rim, B-36 gearbox. does near as well as my budget beast C-14.
i totally agree with you, its a really good rc for beginners as well. Those who are just learning how to mod their rc can definitely benefit from these models, it's cheap not only the rc itself but the parts as well and im pretty sure with the right modifications and parts you can get a pretty good rc car that is maybe almost as good as some stock hobby grade rc in terms of performance.
Recommendations: if you buy this truck immediately purchase two other things with it. A jug of plasti-dip (the dipping variety, not the spray on) and a tube of marine grease. As soon as you get this RC take ALL electronics out except for motor and plasti-dip them 2 or 3 coats; this will waterproof the electrics and is much more cost effective then conformal coating. Next pull apart the front and rear diff, pack em with marine grease. May as well hit all the bearings with a low-viscosity oil while you're in there. Final tip would be to wrap the vent-holes on the motor with gauze. This will still allow water in but it should keep all of the big particles of mud/dirt out, allowing the motor to last significantly longer with semi-amphibious runs. At this point you should not only have an EXTREMELY water resistant rig (I hesitate to say anything is waterPROOF) but you will also have a much better understanding of how your truck works and goes together; if you don't already.
this is exactly what I wanted to see... the Mn-99 in a real trail environment.. live how good it is stock... so glad I bought one, just not had the chance to test it so good job and the camera angle under the chassis was amazing idea, seeing the suspension working... big thumbs up 👍 mate
Cheers dude, I made the little review, but what it really needed was a good test. This terrain is what it's made for. (Oil suspension would make this even better).
I’ve just ordered one of these to inspect the underside of my home, I live in a park home which is about 50cm off the ground so makes inspecting for rot/leakes hard work ! I plan to fit a fpv camera, upgrade the lighting and use an old smart phone to video the floor oh and also...I really like it !!
I bought 2 of these for my kids. One of each of the two colours. These are great value for money. Picked them up for £35 each and they both came with 2 batteries. They surprised me with how capable they are. They're a good size for running indoors as well as outside. Only issue we've had is with the return spring on the trigger of one of the transmitters that kept binding up. It was an easy fix though.
I've just pulled the trigger on the 99s with 3 batteries for 59 quid off ebay. To be fair at that price I wasn't expecting much, however after looking at your videos it seems pretty capable. Plenty of upgrades too. I had the Tamiya stuff back in the day. Brat, Hornet and Hotshot so it was nice to see your bargain collection of classics. Thanks for making my mind up on this one. Subscribed 👍
Can't ask for much more really. Cracking location and a sensibly priced and fairly capable truck to play with.....all that would be missing for me would be a hammock and sleeping bag! Cheers Phil, great vid pal. Andy.
Initially confusing video as we have a Loggerheads near where I live and I couldn't for the life of me remember it having a country park. One Google later and I'm suitably schooled. It looks a lovely place to do a shoot. I'd have to agree, there's alot of fun to be had with some of these cheaper marques. 👌🙋👍🇬🇧
Well Phil in my eyes and hopefully others will think this is a great Rig for the Price, that's why I like you mate because your willing to give budget RC,s a chance like me, I can't help looking at a £500 rc I think to myself I could get 4 or 5 Rcs for that price 😊 I think you you done a fantastic Test and it passed 👍 fantastic Location and a fantastic video, I might get one 😊
Cheers Tony, a lot of people disregard these budget ones, but i really like them. Yes I get a lot of them for Free, but I've also spent quite a bit of my own money on them as well. Why spend £500 when you can have fun for under £100!
My point exactly Phil, Same I spend my own money to upgrade them but it's to help other people out to if they want to buy one 👍 am doing a Mod on my Ravine so I done have to spend loads on a scale Crawler, think your going to Like it 🤪
Woww! !!.. questo MN 99 lavora proprio bene ...se la cava !!!...molto bello ...video ben fatto !!!...se ci aggiungi qualche upgrade della WPL funziona ancora meglio !!!...ciao mitico !!!
Mine arrived the other day, I although I've yet to run it properly I am quite impressed, certainly for the money... I hope you do a few follow up videos on this D90 showing the best and worst of modifications 👍🏼 Oh, and you've certainly found a gem of a place to run 😎😎
My steering sevo failed whilst running on carpet! I'd been running it for less than an hour. I'm upgrading to a metal gear servo. Once that is done it should be a great car.
Hi, lovely terrain to test this in. I was told the steering on this model was not proportional, and it was fully proportional on the mn99s only, is this correct?
RTR MN Models now have a little edge over RTR WPL's I feel. This can only be good, it will make them try a little harder to improve, you can already see the improvements both brands have made over the last 12 months
That's a cool trail truck buddy, well worth the money and probably a good upgrade project. I'm looking for another crawler, I've just reviewed my first one! It's a little 1:24 scale crawler and I've definitely got the bug😁 Great review and trail Crawl sir, thanks for sharing 😎😎
Great video Phil, I bought the chepeer version of it for my son and we are fighting over it !!! One question though, since I don't know much aboyt crawlers , is it wise to glue the tyres ?
Love the power you have in there,my MN90 is still standard and i really need to get a 180 in it at the very least, as mine can struggle a bit in my garden with the 130.nice video and location.
Verrry Nice place and video! btw, for MN 99 model, if we want to upgrade stock ESC, can we still keep using stock transmitter or we need to upgrade also the Rx/ Tr? thanks! I want to have brake feature (Fw/rev/brake)
Just received the white/orange/black version of this MN 99 and I am impressed, especially for the initial investment. Looking to change out the ESC, add some metal upgrades and move the gearbox up into the chassis to make more clearance so it won't high-center so much when crawling over obstacles. Really like the scale look of this model.
That’s about right for a stock charger. Get a decent charger and it’ll be a little faster. As for run time, I’d say more than 15mins. But the stock battery is only a small one. Buy a 1200mah one for about $7 and you’ll get loads more
I really want to get one! But I’m gonna get the worse truck, a wpl c24 for a little paint job. If your familiar its stranger things, I’m gonna make Jim Hoppers Chevy blazer Truck out of the wpl body (looks similar) This mn99 is definitely a great lookin crawler
Tomley RC Garage Oh, ok that’s what you mean. Do you know if I need to buy any other tools or anything to build the kit? I wanted to build one, but it never said what I needed to build it. Including tools and soldering and stuff
Thinking about getting a small budget crawler. In your opinion what would you go for? This looks great but also looking at something like a WPL C24 but I know they aren't fully proportional.
If you buy the C24 kit, you can make it fully proportional really easy. Comes with everything apart from an ESC (£5/$7), and then just add you transmitter/receiver 👍
I just got mine from China, sadly it came with a broken front bumper :( and i can seem to find any stock bumper online. Edit: is there a way to make the light always on without changing the board?
Surely it would be absurdly narrow minded to dismiss the offerings of firms such as WPL, Fayee, MN and several others as fundamentally unimprovable dross, good only for their bodyshells at best.
It seems to me that the meteoric rise in quality, willingness to listen to and act upon customer feedback and sensible price policy demonstrated by these companies have effectively created a new bracket between toy and hobby grade. Yes, the RTR version of a particular model might be toy grade, but the parts are right there to build a hobby grade product at a very competitive price.
It´s up to the hobby grade guys to react with better parts support, a more interesting range of products and fairer prices, or to ignore the upstarts and wait to see what happens.
Well done, Phil - that was a great use of some down-time. What a lovely place - thanks for showing it to us.
Del, we can always rely on you to put a very well written reply together. There are lots of people out there that are very quick to jump on these models as cheap toy junk. The very people that will happily pay twice the cost of this model for bolt on shiny parts for their $500 truck that have no functional use what so ever. These do break, but you can fix them, the same as 99% of all other hobby grade RC's out there, the difference with these though, it will cost you a few £/$'s rather than 10's/100's of £/$ to fix.
The place was so nice, I only had an hr or so to spare, but easily could have spent all day there!
@@TomleyRC You found tie to shoot all the footage needed to pt together a very good-looking video. I greatly enjoyed the views of the live axle moving relative to the chassis.
absolutely, with a few inexpensive upgrades these are very good.
haven't done video of my MN-D90 yet, Fayee rims/tires are wider slightly shorter, oil shocks, 16 turns 2 mm solder each front rim, B-36 gearbox. does near as well as my budget beast C-14.
i totally agree with you, its a really good rc for beginners as well. Those who are just learning how to mod their rc can definitely benefit from these models, it's cheap not only the rc itself but the parts as well and im pretty sure with the right modifications and parts you can get a pretty good rc car that is maybe almost as good as some stock hobby grade rc in terms of performance.
Recommendations: if you buy this truck immediately purchase two other things with it. A jug of plasti-dip (the dipping variety, not the spray on) and a tube of marine grease. As soon as you get this RC take ALL electronics out except for motor and plasti-dip them 2 or 3 coats; this will waterproof the electrics and is much more cost effective then conformal coating. Next pull apart the front and rear diff, pack em with marine grease. May as well hit all the bearings with a low-viscosity oil while you're in there. Final tip would be to wrap the vent-holes on the motor with gauze. This will still allow water in but it should keep all of the big particles of mud/dirt out, allowing the motor to last significantly longer with semi-amphibious runs. At this point you should not only have an EXTREMELY water resistant rig (I hesitate to say anything is waterPROOF) but you will also have a much better understanding of how your truck works and goes together; if you don't already.
That was not only a great demonstration of the truck but a very well shot and entertaining video. Thank you.
Getting mn 99s for Christmas. This video sold me and my wife.
The MN99s looks really good. I'm sure you'll be pleased with it :)
this is exactly what I wanted to see... the Mn-99 in a real trail environment.. live how good it is stock... so glad I bought one, just not had the chance to test it so good job and the camera angle under the chassis was amazing idea, seeing the suspension working... big thumbs up 👍 mate
Cheers dude, I made the little review, but what it really needed was a good test. This terrain is what it's made for. (Oil suspension would make this even better).
yeah I'm goin to invest in some
wrapping the front rims with 2mm solder does good things too.
Sweet run! These newer mn models are pretty worth it now for sure. The location was nice as well! Good one bro!
Yes, they have done well. Oil shocks out the box next hopefully!
That's a cool little toy..👌
I’ve just ordered one of these to inspect the underside of my home, I live in a park home which is about 50cm off the ground so makes inspecting for rot/leakes hard work ! I plan to fit a fpv camera, upgrade the lighting and use an old smart phone to video the floor oh and also...I really like it !!
Wow.... cool idea!
I bought 2 of these for my kids. One of each of the two colours. These are great value for money. Picked them up for £35 each and they both came with 2 batteries. They surprised me with how capable they are. They're a good size for running indoors as well as outside. Only issue we've had is with the return spring on the trigger of one of the transmitters that kept binding up. It was an easy fix though.
They are certainly really good value for money. Ideal to keep the kids occupied!
@@TomleyRC I might be using them more than the kids do 🤣
haha
I chucked a set of wheel weights on the front of mine and it’s made it a little more stable. Might do the back as well. Excellent little truck!
Yes, wheel weights are a good upgrade
That little trucks awesome great video and spot! 👍👌👍
Cheers dude 👍
The only thing's missing: Oil-fillable shocks!
Yes, that would make it perfect
I've just pulled the trigger on the 99s with 3 batteries for 59 quid off ebay. To be fair at that price I wasn't expecting much, however after looking at your videos it seems pretty capable.
Plenty of upgrades too. I had the Tamiya stuff back in the day. Brat, Hornet and Hotshot so it was nice to see your bargain collection of classics.
Thanks for making my mind up on this one. Subscribed 👍
The MN99s is meant to be the best one yet.... I've actually got one coming to review. £59 is a bargain mate 😎
@@TomleyRC Great, looking forward to your review.👍
@@TomleyRC Got a video of that one?
Oil shocks and a piece each wk for both until done upgrades
Can't ask for much more really. Cracking location and a sensibly priced and fairly capable truck to play with.....all that would be missing for me would be a hammock and sleeping bag!
Cheers Phil, great vid pal.
Andy.
Great spot. Impromptu runs are all good. That is a capable little cheap rig. Nice one
Awesome place. Your surprise items were dropped off with the courier today, hopefully you'll have them by the weekend 👍
Pretty beautiful spot, dude! Really nice! 😃
The car looks pretty good as well! Great job! 😃
Cheers dude
Can't wait for mine to arrive!
Crazy how good it is for under $80CAD
Where did you order from?
Doesn't look to bad, sweet area bro!
It's pretty good. Needs Oil shocks... as they all do!
eBay "A285004" are a pretty good fit, 13-14 bucks for 4 of them.
great video awesome little truck
Cheers dude
Cheers mate.
I just purchased 2 of them also some steel drive shafts .cant wait to try them out.
Good trucks :)
Good thing it has a snorkel...
😂Yes haha
In theory you could 3d print a snorkel to the motor and it’ll literally be a real snorkel 😂
Initially confusing video as we have a Loggerheads near where I live and I couldn't for the life of me remember it having a country park. One Google later and I'm suitably schooled. It looks a lovely place to do a shoot. I'd have to agree, there's alot of fun to be had with some of these cheaper marques. 👌🙋👍🇬🇧
In many cases these can be enjoyed more because you haven't got to worry about breaking an expensive part!
Well Phil in my eyes and hopefully others will think this is a great Rig for the Price, that's why I like you mate because your willing to give budget RC,s a chance like me, I can't help looking at a £500 rc I think to myself I could get 4 or 5 Rcs for that price 😊 I think you you done a fantastic Test and it passed 👍 fantastic Location and a fantastic video, I might get one 😊
Cheers Tony, a lot of people disregard these budget ones, but i really like them. Yes I get a lot of them for Free, but I've also spent quite a bit of my own money on them as well. Why spend £500 when you can have fun for under £100!
My point exactly Phil, Same I spend my own money to upgrade them but it's to help other people out to if they want to buy one 👍 am doing a Mod on my Ravine so I done have to spend loads on a scale Crawler, think your going to Like it 🤪
Great video my friend we got to North Wales quite a lot fantastic scenery great stream awesome run🇬🇧😊😎👍
It's a lovely country, shame I only had a few hrs to explore!
How waterproof is it?
Stock, not very. Ok if you keep the water below the chassis
Do you think you should upgrade the shocks
Yes, definitely 👍
Woww! !!.. questo MN 99 lavora proprio bene ...se la cava !!!...molto bello ...video ben fatto !!!...se ci aggiungi qualche upgrade della WPL funziona ancora meglio !!!...ciao mitico !!!
Mine arrived the other day, I although I've yet to run it properly I am quite impressed, certainly for the money...
I hope you do a few follow up videos on this D90 showing the best and worst of modifications 👍🏼
Oh, and you've certainly found a gem of a place to run 😎😎
I have a little D90 project coming up. Just waiting on some 3D printed parts.
@@TomleyRC interesting 😎... I don't have a 3D printer, any parts I want I have to mill out of a solid lump of aluminium 👍🏼👍🏼😂
Just got one on sale for $38 prime shipped, tires cost more than that... amazing.
That’s a really good price!
Very impressive RTR truck! I´m gonna get one soon. :)
My steering sevo failed whilst running on carpet! I'd been running it for less than an hour. I'm upgrading to a metal gear servo. Once that is done it should be a great car.
Hi, lovely terrain to test this in. I was told the steering on this model was not proportional, and it was fully proportional on the mn99s only, is this correct?
It's proportional on this, and the MN96
Well thats killed the WPL C34 !
RTR MN Models now have a little edge over RTR WPL's I feel. This can only be good, it will make them try a little harder to improve, you can already see the improvements both brands have made over the last 12 months
yup, newer C-14 come with metal axle gears and B-36 gearbox
Still great value for money whether it be a WPL or MN .
Nice adventure 🙏👍👍
Great video. Just bought one of these
Good choice!
Full standar or upgrade?
I just picked up the MN99 D90 and wanted to know if you can point me in the right direction/recommend a better motor and gearbox.
I got one a couple weeks ago and I already broke the bumper and rear drive shaft lol
oops lol
Tomley RC thankfully I ordered metal ones a couple days before. She will be up and running after they come in tomorrow 👍awesome review and truck !
Very good i like it.
sir should I upgrade the shaft to metal shaft or it will work with plastic shaft. sir please tell me. love from INDIA
Plastic is ok, but it is always a good upgrade to go for a metal one
Is the MN 99 better than the wpl c24? Please I don't know which Is better
MN99s is my favourite RTR
@@TomleyRC ordered one yesterday😍
Nice video 👍
That's a cool trail truck buddy, well worth the money and probably a good upgrade project. I'm looking for another crawler, I've just reviewed my first one! It's a little 1:24 scale crawler and I've definitely got the bug😁 Great review and trail Crawl sir, thanks for sharing 😎😎
Cheers dude. They are all good fun!
good deal! luv play time!! rock n roll brother!
Cheers dude
Can scx10 beadlock style wheels be made to fit? havnt seen any videos about this from anyone.
hmmm...no sure. I don't think so
How did you Mount the cam in the bottom of the car?
Did u ever end up upgrading anything on this or you let it go to the way side?
Great video Phil, I bought the chepeer version of it for my son and we are fighting over it !!! One question though, since I don't know much aboyt crawlers , is it wise to glue the tyres ?
So is the MN d99 waterproof?
No
Watching your unboxing I did order one waiting for it to arrive my MN99 Btw awesome video great place to shoot the video nice and relaxing..
Love the power you have in there,my MN90 is still standard and i really need to get a 180 in it at the very least, as mine can struggle a bit in my garden with the 130.nice video and location.
Yes, a 180 will help that. And the white/cream B36 gearbox with a 180 would be even better
The deerc comes with a. 260
Great video 👍👍
Nice video and review sir.. Thanks 😆
Thank you 🤘
Their sold out right now
How about the MN99s?
Tomley RC how much better is then the mn99
@@Ynot.LJ8 proportional steering on 99s
Is it water proof?
No, but ok for a little paddle
Nice one!50$?waterproof?
Not waterproof
Fully proportional?
Yes
@@TomleyRC I know it's not really hobby grade but it looks so fun I'm sure with some love it can be upgraded to a decent crawler
Probably missed it. But whats the country park called? Great vid as always. Thanks
Loggerheads 👍
nice video！
Wow
Amazing trail man! Do you know the charging time for this?
A couple of hrs
Verrry Nice place and video! btw, for MN 99 model, if we want to upgrade stock ESC, can we still keep using stock transmitter or we need to upgrade also the Rx/ Tr? thanks! I want to have brake feature (Fw/rev/brake)
Once you change the ESC, you need to change all the radio gear, including the Servo.
This or TRX4?
TRX4
Just received the white/orange/black version of this MN 99 and I am impressed, especially for the initial investment. Looking to change out the ESC, add some metal upgrades and move the gearbox up into the chassis to make more clearance so it won't high-center so much when crawling over obstacles. Really like the scale look of this model.
Yes it’s a decent rig for the money 👍🏻
Free for share bro ?
I just ordered the mn99s:)
Almost every website says it only rides for 15 min, and then it needs to charge for about 2/3 hours, is this true? Bc i really wanna buy one
That’s about right for a stock charger. Get a decent charger and it’ll be a little faster. As for run time, I’d say more than 15mins. But the stock battery is only a small one. Buy a 1200mah one for about $7 and you’ll get loads more
Tomley RC thanks
@@TomleyRC edit: got one yesterday, had a lot of fun using it, i have used it for almost a hour on stock battery!
@@Jurrb_ Batterys last forever on these crawler 💪
I really want to get one! But I’m gonna get the worse truck, a wpl c24 for a little paint job. If your familiar its stranger things, I’m gonna make Jim Hoppers Chevy blazer Truck out of the wpl body (looks similar)
This mn99 is definitely a great lookin crawler
The C24 is nice, and the new ones I think come with the good B36 motor/gearing. 🤘
Tomley RC Garage oh, I did not know that! Finally they are making an updated version, lol. I might hold out till that comes out
@@br1ann88 If you buy a C24 kit, it should already be the updated version. They have been around for a while now
Tomley RC Garage
Oh, ok that’s what you mean. Do you know if I need to buy any other tools or anything to build the kit? I wanted to build one, but it never said what I needed to build it. Including tools and soldering and stuff
First? Looks like nice crawler
Looks like it's gone up in price a little, it's 50 quid now, would have thought about 35-40 if it were 50 dollar-ish
Yeah, I don't often mention prices, they are always changing. I think it was about £40 when it was first on sale.
Thinking about getting a small budget crawler. In your opinion what would you go for? This looks great but also looking at something like a WPL C24 but I know they aren't fully proportional.
If you buy the C24 kit, you can make it fully proportional really easy. Comes with everything apart from an ESC (£5/$7), and then just add you transmitter/receiver 👍
@@TomleyRC Thanks. What esc would you use?
@@dez1969 I use these... www.banggood.com/custlink/DK3m9kdmSj
It's not a toy for sure but it is at toy price
I just got mine from China, sadly it came with a broken front bumper :( and i can seem to find any stock bumper online.
Edit: is there a way to make the light always on without changing the board?
Shame it came broken! Have you searched for the MN90 spares? They are the same. Not looked properly at the lights, but hopefully it's a quick fix.
@@TomleyRC yes, i have. Most of them sell the upgraded version (metal)
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