What men don't realize is that they are the first men that their daughters have a relationship with (not in a freudian kinda way or anything). They way you treat her sets the standard for what she expects from men in general. So, when she turns 20 and is dating a guy that treats her like trash don't get mad if you been treating her like trash yourself for her whole life. You were her first male relationship. SHE LEARNS ABOUT MEN FROM YOU. Remember that, fathers.
Yeah I feel Women Are More Vulnerable And They Shouldnt Be In the Position Where they Could Be In Danger in anyway or Have To Protect themselves They Need Need any Man Or Somebody to Protect and Support them and Need to Be Safe In a Relationship with a Significant other
very touching :) i don't know my father, but my grandfather fills that void for me, after we saw this movie, he took me out and did the same thing.... and i started bawling :'))
I lost my dad 3 months ago in Afghanistan, and when I saw this movie I cried. Then this scene came up and I lost it. I had this same conversation with my dad a few years ago.
A relationship between a man and his children is very special. It is his responsibility to watch over his children and make sure they grow to become responsible young men and women.
My parents did this for me on my fifteenth birthday. I wear my ring every day, and every time I see it, I'm reminded of the promise to wait and honor God, my future husband, and myself. It always encourages me to continue down the path of purity. It's never failed me thus far.
Those who are hating on this scene obviously don't know what love is all about. Its not about passion, its not about sex, its not about romance. Love is about caring for someone as equally or even more than yourself. Those hating on this only care about themselves and what they can get out of a relationship, and going into a relationship only to get something out of it is the wrong reason to be in a relationship in the first place. A relationship is about two people, not one.
This scene is creepy as fuck. The phasing he's using, the tone of voice, the entire setup all points to him desperately wanting to bang her(which is GROSS).
@@joshuaperrine2019 have you watched the whole movie? My dad gave me a purity ring when I turned 13 and it's one of my favorite memories. There is absolutely nothing sexual going on and with all due respect you need to get your mind out of the gutter.
I think people are more so creeped out by the fact that this wouldn't happen between a father and son. A ring placed on the finger of a daughter until it is replaced by that of her husband alludes to the same notion that the tradition of "handing the bride off" comes from. This is based in the historical objectification of women as property of the father, and the handing off (or in this case, the switching of rings), signifies the transfer of property from one man (father) to another (husband). People may disagree with this take, but if they do I'd encourage them to ponder my first sentence and then consider the rest. I can appreciate that other people may have different, special connections with this scene and can respect that. But from a historical & objective perspective, practices like these support sexist cultural conventions.
@@LannabobannaThose sexist conventions would prevent a lot of heartbreak, divorce, fatherlessness, and abuse if employed today. 1) women, and even moreso, young women are less physically capable of protecting themselves from men. Police existing now does not change this even a little. 2) while both men and women are often bad at filtering out poor spouses due to emotional attachments in the moment, women have traditionally had more to risk and therefore lose when they choose poorly. Women are often more motivated to act on both positive and negative emotions rather than seeing people for who they really are. How many women go out with and even go back to abusive bad boys that use them and throw them away on a whim? How many times would it have been easy for a father to recognize the man as scum and turn him away instead? I don't know a single case (not saying there aren't any) of a woman who was used by a bad man where the father approved of him. Let fathers filter out bad men, and let grandmothers filter out bad women. It isn't bulletproof, but it's better than letting your own ape-brain decide with dopamine.
My dad isn't saved so he doesn't understand this. But I found this ring when I was young in the mud (I liked to explore). I'm 14 and the ring is a symbol of waiting for my husband and purity! I think the ring has real diamonds... :) I love looking at the ring knowing that God is saving someone special for me! :)
Wow. How beautifully sensitive and encouraging this is. I bet if most of us ladies had the same relationship with our fathers, we would be better women, and ultimately better mothers in our homes. I pray that men will learn from this example and establish Godly relationships with their children, to give them a better chance in life. I know I wish I had a father like this!
@@joshuaperrine2019 He is not proposing. He is giving his daughter a heart-shaped promise ring. He declared that, the ring shall be worn, until she gets a wedding ring
he just gave a whole new meaning to the promise ring :) Rather than it being used as promise by your boyfriend to be married eventually. I think that this has a beautiful meaning , a dad PROMISING to protect his daughter until the right boy comes (and not incest like what some of you all are pervertedly thinking)
It doesn't matter if the ring has diamonds, cause a diamond is wearing the ring. I pray that you continue to find the strength, wisdom, knowledge and understanding from God to wait for the man deserving of you. :)
I love this scene. This should be how all parent/child relationships should be. I love how later she is looking at the ring, reflecting on how much her father loves her.
Marriage is a promise that man makes to God. This is a promise he's making to her that when the right man comes along. The ring thats from Him/Dad the first man in her life that God chose to take care of her since birth. Will only be replaced by the Man that God chose for her to love and care for her for the rest of her life... The born again Christian way...
This!! This hit my heart. This is such a special moment and the way fathers should love, protect and guide their daughters. Being able to trust you Dad with your heart and have his guidance with relationships (as long as he is a godly father) is soooo beautiful. Men, this is what your daughter's need!😭❤️
Great scene! The world would be a better place if more fathers were this protective and loving towards their daughters. Less unwanted pregnancies, higher self-worth, and not looking for love in all the wrong places. What woman wouldn't have wanted this from her father?
Fathers who grew up under a single mom saw the struggles of working, disciplining, cooking, playing with her child. Fathers protect their daughters so that his princess would never have to experience her grandmother's hardships
@@edwinverzosa7655 actually, this sort of shit doesn't reduce the numbers of teen/unwanted pregnancies. What works is parents having open discussions about sex, not fear tactics and abstinence bs.
THAT is so incredibly beautiful and every young daughter needs to be loved in this way by her father..!! Unfortunately, many are not and I blame that on ALL the dead-beat Dads out there...Shame on them ALL..!!
My Dad never said it to me but I know he meant it in his heart, now we live in different countries but his heart worries for me and mine for him and devil can do nothing with it because we are under God's protection!!!!
@@joshuaperrine2019 you need to stop judging people. There's nothing sexual about this scene or the concept thereof. Just because it's strange for you doesn't mean it's okay for you to be rude. Joshua Perrine I'll pray for you🤗
My husband just had this same dinner and conversation with our daughter tonight. She celebrates her 13th birthday on Sunday and she got her own special ring too :) So proud of my husband for taking the time to make the special memory and agreement with her! I hope she remembers it always!
He may have good intentions but I think this very inappropiate. Human beings are worth based on their personality, beliefs, good deeds not on their sexual activity. I hope you also give the same talk to your son since the Bible warns about sexual immorality but it doesn't focus on a gender. Corinthians 12: 20 Corinthians 7: 1-9 Conrinthians 7 is basically saying each man to have his wife and wife her husband to not deny each other. But both were supposed to wait until marriage!!
looking forward to spending one on one time with my daughters to speak positive in their lives....looking forward to spending more time with my sons also God Bless
I'm really glad my dad didn't make me pledge my purity and virginity to him and actually let me make my own choices with men and didn't act like they had to ask his permission to talk to me. Your father doesn't own you ladies. Sure it's important that fathers and daughters have a strong relationship built on love and respect and yes the dad sets the standard of how a girl should expect a man to treat her but part or that respect is letting go and trusting that you've raised your daughter to make smart choices about a life partner...she doesn't need you to make that choice for her
I get that he loves his daughter and wants to protect her, but he's being way too controlling. She needs to learn to how to pick the right partner herself, not just rely on her dad's judgement. Don't get me wrong, parents and friends will see red flags you can't because you're so infatuated, but sometimes bad men are really good at playing the part of the good guy and not even the dad will see it. The point is, she's the one who's going to be spending time with him and growing close with him. She should be the one to choose that person for herself. Is it scary letting teens date? Yes. Is it possible the guy might try to pressure her into sex? Yes. That doesn't mean she'll do it. All you can do is teach her about God, show her how a woman should be treated with love and respect, tell her not to settle for anything less, and trust that she remembers and applies these things when she does meet someone.
I've watched this movie many times and this scene still makes me tear up... I wish/hope that my dad would do this for me. I'm so thankful that there are Dad's like this today...
This is weird. It is not up to a father to guard his daughter's purity. It is up to her and the Lord. A father should be focused on encouraging her walk with God. A daughter agreeing to let her father choose the "right kind of man" doesn't really help. A daughter that wants to remain in God's will would be seeking him and not choose the wrong kind of boy/man. Choosing a good Christian man also doesn't guarantee that they will not make a mistake. It is about spiritually nurturing one's own soul so that they can stand against temptation rather than leaning on legalistic ritual.
I would most definately do the same thing for my daughter. And i really hope and pray that god will provide me with a beautiful daughter that i will love so much and i would really want the very best for her too.
I think its important for a father figure in a child's life. However, why the obsession with purity and this message is only given to girls. Girls in other countries and also in US are being killed over Honor Killings so this message of Purity does more damage than good. What about if they were raped? Are they less valuable? Where is the purity ring for his son? When you are my age trust me the message changes in the Church and family. "Where is your boyfriend, don't miss the train, time is ticking, find a man ASAP!!" I thought you want girls to be "pure" but apparently not when you are almost 30. It is just about control.
Now you are going to have to explain how this borders on incest; my mind is not filthy enough to be able to see incest in his love and respect for his daughter. And no, he does not imply he owns her, he tells her he is responsible for protecting her until the day God provides a husband to protect her; he does not want her to join the millions of woman who have been used and abandoned; unable to reach their dreams because of being single parents.
The sultry tone of voice he's using, the specific phrasing, the entire setup of going on a "date", the predatory look in his eyes, etc. They could have done this scene in a more tasteful manor.
Nothing the bible speak of a father give good gift sto his children. I am a mother of three and six granny's. All I want is good and protection for them. They are grown now, but I never stop praying for them and the granny's too. that love .That is the way Jesus love s us he want the good things for us.
I see nothing wrong with this father giving his daughter a gift. He's showing his daughter how much he care for her. I truely believe a father should take up time with his daughter as well as his son ; that's why so many of our young women are being ran over today had they had their father's in their lives help mom to guide and intruct them alone the way. He's not loving her in a gross way as one of the response but as a father loves his daughter. YOU MUST HAVE LOST YOUR NASTY MIND.JS.
Agreed. Those who are saying this scene is "gross" or "creepy" most likely never experienced a good child/parent relationship. Or they may have even experienced sexual and/or physical abuse from a parent (or other trusted adult), where they think the only way they will be "safe" is to retain complete control over every single aspect of their lives (and they call it "gender equality"). Due to their dysfunctional family life/upbringing, it's all they know.
This is oddly common. Its a brilliant idea. He just did it in a strange way and worded it kind of cringy and naive. There is a movie called "Courageous" where the dad does something similar but he called it a promise ring that she will let him approve anyone she wants as more than a friend... way less cringy but also naive in its scope of the promise... but eh
At the same time, you have to be careful not to continue to revolve your decisions around Gothard's teachings--"I wouldn't do that because Gothard did that," or, "I don't believe this because Gothard believes this." That, too is a form of captivity, in which case you still give Gothard some sort of power over your life. I get why you are concerned, but your reasoning for not doing something will hopefully be because God is leading you to do something else & not because Gothard would do it.
You must be a former Gothardite...I do not base my decisions on what Gothard would or would not apporove of....I'm way past that. I did state however, that it was DANGEROUSLY close to the Gothard way of doing things...and that there would have to be MAJOR balance in how this is handled. My comment had NOTHING to do with you're suggesting...
This is all about men controlling their daughters, not loving their daughters. Control is not love. It's sexist once you consider that men don't get treated this way by their mothers either. It's homophobic when you consider that the assumption is that she will end up with a man.
While I understand the purpose & reason behind this...but this is dangereously close to the Gothardite way of doing things...that's my only draw back to doing this in this manner. Anyone who has been in Bill Gothards's cult would most likely agree with me. There would have to a MAJOR balance in doing something like this!
Ok now THAT is GAME! All these youngsters think they know how to treat a woman. This is how you PROPERLY set the tone for any man after this night. They had better come correct or dont come at her at all. This scene is dead on.
He really shouldn't use a "sex voice" for this scene. It's like this movie was written and made entirely by virgins without any knowledge of the outside world.
Wow, come on guys. I'm christian, but this is a bit gross. This isn't necessary creepy, but holy shit is it sexist, "you're too stupid to pick your own person to be with, you're not allowed to go for someone that YOU find attractive/ interesting, you have to let your daddy pick for you". Yuck. The best way to ensure that a young girl doesn't make any poor choices is to build up her self-esteem, to ensure she knows that she's strong and worthy. Empower HER to pick someone that SHE will love and cherish; she doesn't have to go for the first person that walks into her life. She should be told that she has the intelligence to pick the right person. The promise ring makes her into a possession, only to be passed around. I strongly advise fathers NOT to do this. Ensure that you're a part of your daughter's life, give her all the love and the self-confidence in the world, and of course keep her away from guys when she's young. But empower her to make her own life decisions when she's older, and she will probably do really well. That's what my parents did, and I never got myself into strife with guys. However, a couple of my friends who had this 'promise ring' shit ended up having sex at a VERY young age. One of the girls I know found a guy she absolutely adored and who adored her too, but the father didn't find him to be pious enough (even though he had JUST been baptised, and was learning/ exploring). The guy HE approved of was actually very aggressive and horrific to be around. She should be told to trust her judgment - women have great intuition, but we tend to ignore it. So no, no I don't like this. Not one bit.
So let me get this straight..... This guy gave his own daughter a promise ring!? And then went on to tell her he wants the very best for her when in all reality that's what he should be already doing as a parent. I just don't get why he had to be all materialistic and give her a "promise ring" super sappy and jo jo.
If he gave her a rock she probably wouldn't cherish it as much. Try telling your wife she doesn't need a wedding ring to signify your promise to do right by her. Tell her your promise to love her does not need something materialistic like a diamond ring.
What is gross about a father treating his daughter with love and respect? What is gross about a father wanting the best sort of man for his daughter rather than some smooth talking pig?
@@joshuaperrine2019 Agreed, there nothing wrong with abstinence, as long the person who wishes to be abstinent promises it to themselves and only themselves. Like I consider myself really close with my dad, I do consider myself a daddy girl. He never made me promise for me to wait until marriage, since its not his promise for him to make. He has told me to not sleep with the first idiot that gives me the time of day and doesn't believe in the pullout method. He has only made me promise to get an education just for me to not depend on anyone when I grow up plus education is something no one can't take from me, no matter what happens.
FYI men, your daughters are not your practice wives. You're putting them into a very uncomfortable position due to your selfishness and ideas of what *you* want. Not of what is best for *them*.
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What men don't realize is that they are the first men that their daughters have a relationship with (not in a freudian kinda way or anything). They way you treat her sets the standard for what she expects from men in general. So, when she turns 20 and is dating a guy that treats her like trash don't get mad if you been treating her like trash yourself for her whole life. You were her first male relationship. SHE LEARNS ABOUT MEN FROM YOU. Remember that, fathers.
Yeah I feel Women Are More Vulnerable And They Shouldnt Be In the Position Where they Could Be In Danger in anyway or Have To Protect themselves They Need Need any Man Or Somebody to Protect and Support them and Need to Be Safe In a Relationship with a Significant other
Amen, You are so very right.
very touching :) i don't know my father, but my grandfather fills that void for me, after we saw this movie, he took me out and did the same thing.... and i started bawling :'))
I lost my dad 3 months ago in Afghanistan, and when I saw this movie I cried. Then this scene came up and I lost it. I had this same conversation with my dad a few years ago.
A relationship between a man and his children is very special. It is his responsibility to watch over his children and make sure they grow to become responsible young men and women.
My parents did this for me on my fifteenth birthday. I wear my ring every day, and every time I see it, I'm reminded of the promise to wait and honor God, my future husband, and myself. It always encourages me to continue down the path of purity. It's never failed me thus far.
Those who are hating on this scene obviously don't know what love is all about. Its not about passion, its not about sex, its not about romance. Love is about caring for someone as equally or even more than yourself. Those hating on this only care about themselves and what they can get out of a relationship, and going into a relationship only to get something out of it is the wrong reason to be in a relationship in the first place. A relationship is about two people, not one.
J Royalty AMEN to that
This scene is creepy as fuck. The phasing he's using, the tone of voice, the entire setup all points to him desperately wanting to bang her(which is GROSS).
@@joshuaperrine2019 have you watched the whole movie? My dad gave me a purity ring when I turned 13 and it's one of my favorite memories. There is absolutely nothing sexual going on and with all due respect you need to get your mind out of the gutter.
I think people are more so creeped out by the fact that this wouldn't happen between a father and son. A ring placed on the finger of a daughter until it is replaced by that of her husband alludes to the same notion that the tradition of "handing the bride off" comes from. This is based in the historical objectification of women as property of the father, and the handing off (or in this case, the switching of rings), signifies the transfer of property from one man (father) to another (husband).
People may disagree with this take, but if they do I'd encourage them to ponder my first sentence and then consider the rest. I can appreciate that other people may have different, special connections with this scene and can respect that. But from a historical & objective perspective, practices like these support sexist cultural conventions.
@@LannabobannaThose sexist conventions would prevent a lot of heartbreak, divorce, fatherlessness, and abuse if employed today.
1) women, and even moreso, young women are less physically capable of protecting themselves from men. Police existing now does not change this even a little.
2) while both men and women are often bad at filtering out poor spouses due to emotional attachments in the moment, women have traditionally had more to risk and therefore lose when they choose poorly. Women are often more motivated to act on both positive and negative emotions rather than seeing people for who they really are. How many women go out with and even go back to abusive bad boys that use them and throw them away on a whim? How many times would it have been easy for a father to recognize the man as scum and turn him away instead?
I don't know a single case (not saying there aren't any) of a woman who was used by a bad man where the father approved of him.
Let fathers filter out bad men, and let grandmothers filter out bad women. It isn't bulletproof, but it's better than letting your own ape-brain decide with dopamine.
My dad isn't saved so he doesn't understand this. But I found this ring when I was young in the mud (I liked to explore). I'm 14 and the ring is a symbol of waiting for my husband and purity! I think the ring has real diamonds... :) I love looking at the ring knowing that God is saving someone special for me! :)
Wow. How beautifully sensitive and encouraging this is. I bet if most of us ladies had the same relationship with our fathers, we would be better women, and ultimately better mothers in our homes. I pray that men will learn from this example and establish Godly relationships with their children, to give them a better chance in life. I know I wish I had a father like this!
What is encouraging about a dad trying to propose to his own daughter?
@@joshuaperrine2019 he's not literally proposing he doesn't want to marry her. I see you under a lot of these comments. I hope God blesses you😇🤗
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He is not proposing. He is giving his daughter a heart-shaped promise ring. He declared that, the ring shall be worn, until she gets a wedding ring
he just gave a whole new meaning to the promise ring :) Rather than it being used as promise by your boyfriend to be married eventually. I think that this has a beautiful meaning , a dad PROMISING to protect his daughter until the right boy comes (and not incest like what some of you all are pervertedly thinking)
I totally agree!
I love this movie and recommend it to all parents. I am doing this for my daughter's 16th birthday, next saturday.
Sounds like a terrible idea
I love this movie because it means so much. So many things in this movie should be reflected in people of today
It doesn't matter if the ring has diamonds, cause a diamond is wearing the ring. I pray that you continue to find the strength, wisdom, knowledge and understanding from God to wait for the man deserving of you. :)
Beautiful... Thank God there are still dads like that... Only a Godly father looks after his daughter(s) like that...
Hahahahahaha.
I would have much more respect for a father like this.
Watched this last night for the first Time and I never thought a film.can touch someone like it did
I Have one of those. I'm a guy, and I chose to have a Promise Ring (Or Purity ring) as a constant reminder of God's Promises to me. :)
I love this scene. This should be how all parent/child relationships should be. I love how later she is looking at the ring, reflecting on how much her father loves her.
Maybe in Alabama
Nah it’s weird. Dads shouldn’t give their daughters rings. It’s too much like marriage
@@Echoingdolphin it's more of a cultural thing. You won't understand.
@@sarawatswife What? I'm a christian, I understand the culture just fine. That doesn't change how weird it is.
Marriage is a promise that man makes to God. This is a promise he's making to her that when the right man comes along. The ring thats from Him/Dad the first man in her life that God chose to take care of her since birth. Will only be replaced by the Man that God chose for her to love and care for her for the rest of her life... The born again Christian way...
This!! This hit my heart. This is such a special moment and the way fathers should love, protect and guide their daughters. Being able to trust you Dad with your heart and have his guidance with relationships (as long as he is a godly father) is soooo beautiful. Men, this is what your daughter's need!😭❤️
Great scene! The world would be a better place if more fathers were this protective and loving towards their daughters. Less unwanted pregnancies, higher self-worth, and not looking for love in all the wrong places. What woman wouldn't have wanted this from her father?
Fathers who grew up under a single mom saw the struggles of working, disciplining, cooking, playing with her child. Fathers protect their daughters so that his princess would never have to experience her grandmother's hardships
@@edwinverzosa7655 actually, this sort of shit doesn't reduce the numbers of teen/unwanted pregnancies. What works is parents having open discussions about sex, not fear tactics and abstinence bs.
THAT is so incredibly beautiful and every young daughter needs to be loved in this way by her father..!! Unfortunately, many are not and I blame that on ALL the dead-beat Dads out there...Shame on them ALL..!!
If I ever have a daughter I will do this exact same thing. All fathers who have daughters need to do this.
What if your daughter is lesbian?
My Dad never said it to me but I know he meant it in his heart, now we live in different countries but his heart worries for me and mine for him and devil can do nothing with it because we are under God's protection!!!!
Just purchased the ring today! Taking my 15yo daughter to dinner next weekend...wish me luck!🤗 God bless!
How did it go??
That's fucking gross
That’s great! I pray it goes well for y’all!
@@joshuaperrine2019 you need to stop judging people. There's nothing sexual about this scene or the concept thereof. Just because it's strange for you doesn't mean it's okay for you to be rude. Joshua Perrine I'll pray for you🤗
Hope it went well
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My prayers are with you on te loss of your father. I thank him for his service.
I Salute your Father. I'll pray for him, and for you.
Love these movies, such a sweet scene
Father daughter scene ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
This is my favorite scene in the whole movie...just wishing this was my dad
My husband just had this same dinner and conversation with our daughter tonight. She celebrates her 13th birthday on Sunday and she got her own special ring too :) So proud of my husband for taking the time to make the special memory and agreement with her! I hope she remembers it always!
Gross
He may have good intentions but I think this very inappropiate. Human beings are worth based on their personality, beliefs, good deeds not on their sexual activity. I hope you also give the same talk to your son since the Bible warns about sexual immorality but it doesn't focus on a gender. Corinthians 12: 20 Corinthians 7: 1-9 Conrinthians 7 is basically saying each man to have his wife and wife her husband to not deny each other. But both were supposed to wait until marriage!!
let's all get our minds out of the gutter and learn to appreciate unsolicited and authentic relations between people when we see them.
May God bless you immensely for putting up this part of the movie.
looking forward to spending one on one time with my daughters to speak positive in their lives....looking forward to spending more time with my sons also God Bless
I'm really glad my dad didn't make me pledge my purity and virginity to him and actually let me make my own choices with men and didn't act like they had to ask his permission to talk to me.
Your father doesn't own you ladies. Sure it's important that fathers and daughters have a strong relationship built on love and respect and yes the dad sets the standard of how a girl should expect a man to treat her but part or that respect is letting go and trusting that you've raised your daughter to make smart choices about a life partner...she doesn't need you to make that choice for her
I get that he loves his daughter and wants to protect her, but he's being way too controlling. She needs to learn to how to pick the right partner herself, not just rely on her dad's judgement. Don't get me wrong, parents and friends will see red flags you can't because you're so infatuated, but sometimes bad men are really good at playing the part of the good guy and not even the dad will see it. The point is, she's the one who's going to be spending time with him and growing close with him. She should be the one to choose that person for herself. Is it scary letting teens date? Yes. Is it possible the guy might try to pressure her into sex? Yes. That doesn't mean she'll do it. All you can do is teach her about God, show her how a woman should be treated with love and respect, tell her not to settle for anything less, and trust that she remembers and applies these things when she does meet someone.
You took the words out of my mouth
Just got my purity ring today !
Gloria Dios
I've watched this movie many times and this scene still makes me tear up... I wish/hope that my dad would do this for me. I'm so thankful that there are Dad's like this today...
I love this movie a lot..I love this part makes me cry all the time. My daddy give me promise ring.:)
16 years old
My dad gave me my ring when i turned 17 and i still have it. It never failed me once!
This is weird. It is not up to a father to guard his daughter's purity. It is up to her and the Lord. A father should be focused on encouraging her walk with God. A daughter agreeing to let her father choose the "right kind of man" doesn't really help. A daughter that wants to remain in God's will would be seeking him and not choose the wrong kind of boy/man. Choosing a good Christian man also doesn't guarantee that they will not make a mistake. It is about spiritually nurturing one's own soul so that they can stand against temptation rather than leaning on legalistic ritual.
I wholeheartedly agree. This dad is creepy and severely overstepping boundaries.
I would most definately do the same thing for my daughter. And i really hope and pray that god will provide me with a beautiful daughter that i will love so much and i would really want the very best for her too.
Being the wife of a law enforcement officer, this movie really hit home!!
I think its important for a father figure in a child's life. However, why the obsession with purity and this message is only given to girls. Girls in other countries and also in US are being killed over Honor Killings so this message of Purity does more damage than good. What about if they were raped? Are they less valuable? Where is the purity ring for his son? When you are my age trust me the message changes in the Church and family. "Where is your boyfriend, don't miss the train, time is ticking, find a man ASAP!!" I thought you want girls to be "pure" but apparently not when you are almost 30. It is just about control.
Great scene!
He really cares about his daughter, I wouldn't let anyone take advantage of my daughter either, I been verbally abusive by my own ex husband,
I just turned 16 April 30th and my parents did this for me too!! I cried when my mom and dad gave me my promise ring
Now you are going to have to explain how this borders on incest; my mind is not filthy enough to be able to see incest in his love and respect for his daughter. And no, he does not imply he owns her, he tells her he is responsible for protecting her until the day God provides a husband to protect her; he does not want her to join the millions of woman who have been used and abandoned; unable to reach their dreams because of being single parents.
The sultry tone of voice he's using, the specific phrasing, the entire setup of going on a "date", the predatory look in his eyes, etc. They could have done this scene in a more tasteful manor.
@@joshuaperrine2019sir, you're reaching here🤦🏻♀️
Great. And no, I'm not a former Gothardite. Just somebody who loves the Lord, was moved by your comment, and responded out of concern.
Nothing the bible speak of a father give good gift sto his children. I am a mother of three and six granny's. All I want is good and protection for them. They are grown now, but I never stop praying for them and the granny's too. that love .That is the way Jesus love s us he want the good things for us.
Best scene ever!!! And I don’t even have a daughter 😂
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I love this scene!
I see nothing wrong with this father giving his daughter a gift. He's showing his daughter how much he care for her. I truely believe a father should take up time with his daughter as well as his son ; that's why so many of our young women are being ran over today had they had their father's in their lives help mom to guide and intruct them alone the way. He's not loving her in a gross way as one of the response but as a father loves his daughter. YOU MUST HAVE LOST YOUR NASTY MIND.JS.
Did you listen to the words he said and the tone of voice he used? Like just because you personally are blind, doesn't mean the sign isn't there.
That scene totally messed me up!
Same here. Why the fuck is he trying to marry his own child?!
Today my baby is 18. Im having dinner with her and bought her a beautiful ring. Im doing the same tonight. She is a girl full of good virtues.
Thank you :)
Strong!
only a perverted mind would think this scene was weird. what's wrong with a father wanting to protect his children?
Agreed. Those who are saying this scene is "gross" or "creepy" most likely never experienced a good child/parent relationship. Or they may have even experienced sexual and/or physical abuse from a parent (or other trusted adult), where they think the only way they will be "safe" is to retain complete control over every single aspect of their lives (and they call it "gender equality"). Due to their dysfunctional family life/upbringing, it's all they know.
Cool
protect his children from making independent responsible decisions in their own life? Well...
No. It is about making the choices that honor God.
the problem is that the father really left no choices to his daughter, whether they honor God or not
My mom and dad warned my ex that he mistreats me, they call the police on him,
This is oddly common. Its a brilliant idea. He just did it in a strange way and worded it kind of cringy and naive. There is a movie called "Courageous" where the dad does something similar but he called it a promise ring that she will let him approve anyone she wants as more than a friend... way less cringy but also naive in its scope of the promise... but eh
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Im a big Christian and so watching this scene makes me cry
At the same time, you have to be careful not to continue to revolve your decisions around Gothard's teachings--"I wouldn't do that because Gothard did that," or, "I don't believe this because Gothard believes this." That, too is a form of captivity, in which case you still give Gothard some sort of power over your life. I get why you are concerned, but your reasoning for not doing something will hopefully be because God is leading you to do something else & not because Gothard would do it.
how many years have u had it on?
toda menina desejaria um pai assim, cena linda.
You must be a former Gothardite...I do not base my decisions on what Gothard would or would not apporove of....I'm way past that. I did state however, that it was DANGEROUSLY close to the Gothard way of doing things...and that there would have to be MAJOR balance in how this is handled. My comment had NOTHING to do with you're suggesting...
I know how you feel.
cool my dad gave me a pink promise ring
I wish that my dad could do something like this for me! :)
This is all about men controlling their daughters, not loving their daughters. Control is not love. It's sexist once you consider that men don't get treated this way by their mothers either. It's homophobic when you consider that the assumption is that she will end up with a man.
So FETCH LOL :) ;) :) ;)
how old was she when she got the promise ring?
We gave our daughters her ring at 15
While I understand the purpose & reason behind this...but this is dangereously close to the Gothardite way of doing things...that's my only draw back to doing this in this manner. Anyone who has been in Bill Gothards's cult would most likely agree with me. There would have to a MAJOR balance in doing something like this!
shes cute
Ok now THAT is GAME! All these youngsters think they know how to treat a woman. This is how you PROPERLY set the tone for any man after this night. They had better come correct or dont come at her at all. This scene is dead on.
This scene seemed a little weird to me, tbh
ur welcome
The message is good, yes. But the acting and dialogue here are syrupy
He really shouldn't use a "sex voice" for this scene. It's like this movie was written and made entirely by virgins without any knowledge of the outside world.
The part where he basically forced her to agree to him having final say over who is allowed in her vagina was unnecessary and really fucking awful.
Wow, come on guys. I'm christian, but this is a bit gross. This isn't necessary creepy, but holy shit is it sexist, "you're too stupid to pick your own person to be with, you're not allowed to go for someone that YOU find attractive/ interesting, you have to let your daddy pick for you". Yuck. The best way to ensure that a young girl doesn't make any poor choices is to build up her self-esteem, to ensure she knows that she's strong and worthy. Empower HER to pick someone that SHE will love and cherish; she doesn't have to go for the first person that walks into her life. She should be told that she has the intelligence to pick the right person. The promise ring makes her into a possession, only to be passed around. I strongly advise fathers NOT to do this. Ensure that you're a part of your daughter's life, give her all the love and the self-confidence in the world, and of course keep her away from guys when she's young. But empower her to make her own life decisions when she's older, and she will probably do really well. That's what my parents did, and I never got myself into strife with guys. However, a couple of my friends who had this 'promise ring' shit ended up having sex at a VERY young age. One of the girls I know found a guy she absolutely adored and who adored her too, but the father didn't find him to be pious enough (even though he had JUST been baptised, and was learning/ exploring). The guy HE approved of was actually very aggressive and horrific to be around. She should be told to trust her judgment - women have great intuition, but we tend to ignore it. So no, no I don't like this. Not one bit.
And what if she grows up and discovers she’s gay? How does Daddy deal with that? Badly, I expect.
So let me get this straight..... This guy gave his own daughter a promise ring!? And then went on to tell her he wants the very best for her when in all reality that's what he should be already doing as a parent. I just don't get why he had to be all materialistic and give her a "promise ring" super sappy and jo jo.
If he gave her a rock she probably wouldn't cherish it as much. Try telling your wife she doesn't need a wedding ring to signify your promise to do right by her. Tell her your promise to love her does not need something materialistic like a diamond ring.
Uh yup I gave a promise ring 💍to my wife....she left me for another 🙃guy....terrible of her to do
What is gross about a father treating his daughter with love and respect? What is gross about a father wanting the best sort of man for his daughter rather than some smooth talking pig?
"I get final say as to who is allowed to slide their dick inside you!" is creepy as fuck.
@@joshuaperrine2019 Agreed, there nothing wrong with abstinence, as long the person who wishes to be abstinent promises it to themselves and only themselves. Like I consider myself really close with my dad, I do consider myself a daddy girl. He never made me promise for me to wait until marriage, since its not his promise for him to make. He has told me to not sleep with the first idiot that gives me the time of day and doesn't believe in the pullout method. He has only made me promise to get an education just for me to not depend on anyone when I grow up plus education is something no one can't take from me, no matter what happens.
FYI men, your daughters are not your practice wives. You're putting them into a very uncomfortable position due to your selfishness and ideas of what *you* want. Not of what is best for *them*.
genkimonki That's a twisted, worldly interpretation of this scene. Where do you get these ideas?
This is the epitome of creepy. You're sick for wanting a relationship anywhere close to this with your daughter.
creepy creepy creepy
reminds me of purity balls
This is fucking weird as shit. Is he trying to marry her?
If anything this was extremely creepy and unsettling, not uplifting.
Bingo!
This is gross