Looks like a really frustrating match up for Samus. Props to Plup for sticking it out and continuing to try new things til the end. Really impressed with his Samus at EVO!
omg Armada's stage and game control is unreal. I've never seen someone make Plup, Samus, or this MU seem so bad. His consistency is godlike, literally playing against a brick wall
Nah its in Peach's favor, at least 60-40. I only meant that Armada has a way of making his opponents look bad because he has such excellent control and doesn't let them get away with anything, Plup is amazing
Mac_AI This MU is DEFINETLY not even. I main samus and play vs Peach players alot, it's really dumb. peach's nair is broken. FOr samus to win she has to play really campy and patient, otherwise this happens.
Out of all the characters in the game, Peach is the most annoying to play against. I can't imagine what playing against a Peach this good is like. Probably my version of Hell.
THERE IS A MOMENT SPECIFICALLY AT 10:25 WHEN ARMADA MAKES A SLY AS GRIN AND THEN HE LOOKS LIKE HE SHIT HIMSELF WHEN SAMUS'S MISSILE CONNECTS OMFG ITS SO FUNNY
anyone else find it funny that peach just fought an inter galactic bounty hunter (who wears a suit of mech armor which has a plasma canon attached to the arm that can ALSO fire missiles) with turnips... and won?
Am I the only one who missed these side setup matches live, because I used the popout chat option for VGBC to talk about the main stream? Because there was no side setup day 1, I assumed there wouldn't be for day 2, either.
No literally turnip was stuffing everything plup was doing when he shot missiles he was having to deal with turnips simultaneously. The turnips just flat beat all of samuses projecties and most of the rest of their moveset. I get what ur saying tho if he was able to get more missiles out he maybe could have made the neutral a bit less one sided.
quillife Poor match up? You kidding me. A high tier vs a mid tier. Not only that. Peach and samus are both floaty characters and they depend on stage control. They both compete over the center of the stage but peach has the advantage due to her Air control.
wkavre even if tiers don't matter. Both characters need stage control but peach not only has good mid control she has great air control. Samus is more grounded
Mendez yes. peach has good air control. yes, samus is more grounded. so is fox. does that mean she instantly wins the fox matchup? no. there's a lot more to it.
wkavre Blah blah blah player skill blah blah blah luck blah blah blah. Not saying it's a 100% guarantee on the win rate *even tho statistics essentially do. Im simply saying peach has an advantage. Peach has the air.... I guess you could she has the UPPER hand. Puns aside you're trying to make me seem ignorant when really, you're just misinterpreting what im saying.
plups main issue is too offensive. i know that sounds crazy cos its armada but it is wild how much he gets blocked and punished . needs to be evasive and tricky this is old so i know he plays diff now. he abandon samus completely right?
Looking at these players they don't play any better than me and friends did back when we played Melee frantically... can't believe they make money out of this. Wish me and my buddies knew you could make money playing like this, we'd be rich.
129 turnip pulls for anyone curious. might be a bit off, only counted once. but im pretty sure that was the number or at least very close to it.
I feel like if I played 99 stocks with Armada he'd manage the JV 100.
Don't we all
Looks like a really frustrating match up for Samus. Props to Plup for sticking it out and continuing to try new things til the end. Really impressed with his Samus at EVO!
Rip plup samus
Playing against Armada must be the most frustrating thing on earth
Spamming turnips is annoying.
That was my thought. Poor Plup. The spam was real.
Patrick Reilly And I thought Any Bayonetta for glory players were frustrating
a lot of people believe, sheik or fox would be a difficult match-up for samus, it's not. It is peach and jiggs - these are the most annoying ones
*including marth sometimes..
100% agree, also Falco. Short hop laser makes it pretty much impossible to set up missiles, and down air shine is super annoying
That catch alittle after 4:31 literally made me laugh out loud, plup never fails to amuse me
plups face when he gets upsmashed at the 3 minute mark
Lmao
Did Armada pull 2 dot-eyes in a row?
omg Armada's stage and game control is unreal. I've never seen someone make Plup, Samus, or this MU seem so bad. His consistency is godlike, literally playing against a brick wall
How in any way did Plup seem bad? This match up is in Peach's favor.
Nah its in Peach's favor, at least 60-40. I only meant that Armada has a way of making his opponents look bad because he has such excellent control and doesn't let them get away with anything, Plup is amazing
Smashboards and maining the character with my main practice partner as a Peach
Mac_AI
This MU is DEFINETLY not even. I main samus and play vs Peach players alot, it's really dumb. peach's nair is broken. FOr samus to win she has to play really campy and patient, otherwise this happens.
Patrick Dunlap lol armada is godlike with peach, no worries, but peach against samus.. is so damn broken
Out of all the characters in the game, Peach is the most annoying to play against.
I can't imagine what playing against a Peach this good is like. Probably my version of Hell.
Toby Smile My main is also Sheik. It's one of the only match ups I have trouble with since Peach's air control is so strong.
Hank Hill it's 60/40 MU in shiek's favor...
I find Fox &puff more annoying matches, against a good player you just. can. not. mess. up.
one wrong move and you get a rest or shined to death...
+Shade Serende thats just means they are good
what about puff? lol
THERE IS A MOMENT SPECIFICALLY AT 10:25 WHEN ARMADA MAKES A SLY AS GRIN AND THEN HE LOOKS LIKE HE SHIT HIMSELF WHEN SAMUS'S MISSILE CONNECTS OMFG ITS SO FUNNY
ROFL
anyone else find it funny that peach just fought an inter galactic bounty hunter (who wears a suit of mech armor which has a plasma canon attached to the arm that can ALSO fire missiles) with turnips... and won?
I've kind of just accepted smash at this point
Am I the only one who missed these side setup matches live, because I used the popout chat option for VGBC to talk about the main stream? Because there was no side setup day 1, I assumed there wouldn't be for day 2, either.
you dont need to watch it, you can actually tell whats going on just by listening to the game sounds
This was painful to watch as a samus main
you have to win the missles versus turnups match up if you wanna win and its clear plup didnt wanna play that campy, thus he got bodied
No literally turnip was stuffing everything plup was doing when he shot missiles he was having to deal with turnips simultaneously. The turnips just flat beat all of samuses projecties and most of the rest of their moveset. I get what ur saying tho if he was able to get more missiles out he maybe could have made the neutral a bit less one sided.
Anyone else notice zero in the background?
I don't know how often Armada plays against Samus, but he sure as hell knew the matchup to a T.
armada has fought against Cyr...the best samus in Europe, and possibly the 2/3 best samus in the world (from France) a few times if I'm not mistaken.
strawhats100 the one time I've seen him, he looked like a chump vs aMSa at ROF.
Armada's option coverage is impeccable...my god.
been waiting for a while now to see these two play...armada's too strong.
(That turnip play IS too good tho)
Thanks God they nerfed Peach's Down B in smash 4, she was so campy with it in melee..
its not the same game so you cant use the term nerf technically
and even as a poor matchup armada still kicked ass
quillife Poor match up? You kidding me. A high tier vs a mid tier. Not only that. Peach and samus are both floaty characters and they depend on stage control. They both compete over the center of the stage but peach has the advantage due to her Air control.
+Mendez it's a 50/50 matchup. their tier placings are irrelevant.
wkavre even if tiers don't matter. Both characters need stage control but peach not only has good mid control she has great air control. Samus is more grounded
Mendez yes. peach has good air control. yes, samus is more grounded. so is fox. does that mean she instantly wins the fox matchup? no. there's a lot more to it.
wkavre Blah blah blah player skill blah blah blah luck blah blah blah. Not saying it's a 100% guarantee on the win rate *even tho statistics essentially do. Im simply saying peach has an advantage. Peach has the air.... I guess you could she has the UPPER hand. Puns aside you're trying to make me seem ignorant when really, you're just misinterpreting what im saying.
I have seen hell, and it is full of turnips
Press 8. Peach is calling to Plup.
peach-samus looks harder than jiggs-peach
plups main issue is too offensive. i know that sounds crazy cos its armada but it is wild how much he gets blocked and punished . needs to be evasive and tricky this is old so i know he plays diff now. he abandon samus completely right?
In favor of sheik
I would have switched to fox to make the games 3 times shorter.
Samus spam is one thing, peach spam, so fucking disrespectful, Jesus Christ
Looking at these players they don't play any better than me and friends did back when we played Melee frantically... can't believe they make money out of this. Wish me and my buddies knew you could make money playing like this, we'd be rich.
+Seaclean セーレン 8/8 bait mate.
+John Hurley what does that mean?
+Seaclean セーレン i believe he's calling you a bitch ass nigga, is what he means
Rip the troll
david g Exactly.
So people who use a lot of missiles as Samus are considered lame players.....how is Armada a god, again?
Bro what is this comment
Man, Armada's Peach is one of the most boring and disgusting things to watch on Earth....
I guess you made this comment before HBox rose to infamy
the winner is Armada (peach)
its 2016 and people think this is a 50/50 or that samus wins lol
You gotta remember that this is Armada we're talking about. The sample size on amazing Peach players isn't that big.
+Andrew Thomas stil, check out other peach players.
+frycook813 what do you think of the icies/samus matchup?
uhh like 65/35 samus who knows how tf to rocket camp to like 50/50 on FD
I don't get it.
holy shit armada