Traffic Patterns

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @jeremiahknopf1054
    @jeremiahknopf1054 2 года назад +23

    Finally. A detailed and comprehensive explanation of traffic patterns. Thanks!

  • @flofontanella1000
    @flofontanella1000 6 лет назад +73

    I cannot thank you enough for these videos!

  • @AdamTurkNumberOne
    @AdamTurkNumberOne 6 лет назад +10

    Nice easy to follow graphics and 3D models in this presentation.

  • @hydroxideblue9367
    @hydroxideblue9367 6 лет назад +5

    Thank god for you guys, I have my Cadet Ground school exam today.

  • @thegood9
    @thegood9 4 года назад +5

    Upwind is also a legit call you may hear from ATC, like, "extend your upwind to the bridge on departure", etc...

  • @GeorgiaNFA
    @GeorgiaNFA 5 лет назад +10

    This helped me tremendously. Thank you for posting it.

  • @joelperez3606
    @joelperez3606 7 лет назад +34

    I learned what's an Upwind Leg!!! Thanks; I like your videos.

    • @Zalaniar
      @Zalaniar 6 лет назад +6

      Actually though, what he says in the video is wrong. Any other ground school/flight instructor you attend/speak with will tell you that what this video calls the "departure" leg is actually the upwind leg.

    • @dylconnaway9976
      @dylconnaway9976 6 лет назад +3

      Michael Swader The video is 100% correct! Your instructors were wrong. The upwind leg is offset to the left or right of the runway opposite the downwind, flown at pattern altitude, and is NOT the departure leg. Check the AIM before saying something like that. I am amazed at how many people I hear that get that wrong. It’s incorrect info that’s been passed down through part 61 training I believe. Part 61 just doesn’t have enough checks on it and bad habits/incorrect info gets passed along with no safeguard. Now here you are, passing along that incorrect info. Part 61 training needs to be fixed.

    • @dylconnaway9976
      @dylconnaway9976 6 лет назад

      joel Perez The video is correct regarding the upwind. Don’t listen to Michael there.

    • @Hedgeflexlfz
      @Hedgeflexlfz 5 лет назад +1

      joel Perez how do you effectively avoid traffic during uncontrolled field patterns? What if you are too close to another plane? How can you gauge if you are too close to not?

    • @marklorntz4814
      @marklorntz4814 3 года назад

      @@dylconnaway9976 h

  • @imblack011
    @imblack011 4 года назад +3

    i've been able to easily do ifr since i got fsx BUT THANK GOD I FOUND THIS TUTORIAL BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE VFR VIDEO I'VE SEEN IS LONG AF

  • @AV8R_1
    @AV8R_1 6 лет назад +11

    I constantly see pilots, especially commercial charter pilots in my area completely ignore the common traffic pattern and 45° entry to the downwind. They will enter non towered fields on final, right or left base, whatever suits them. They often depart the same way.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 2 года назад +1

      At $1,000 an hour, they are saving $250 or so total doing it this way.

    • @AV8R_1
      @AV8R_1 2 года назад +3

      @@pilotavery I know full well why they do it. It’s just kind of BS considering most of them just finished being CFI’s where they drilled standard pattern entry into their students heads for a year or two, before going to another job and throwing it out the window.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 2 года назад +2

      @@AV8R_1also with the length of their final I think it doesn't matter since they're bass turn is going to be well outside of the airport's vicinity anyway so they may as well just go straight in as long as they are on comms

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 2 года назад +2

      @@AV8R_1 training is supposed to teach you how to do everything by the book, in practice not everything is by the book. Obviously you should be flying a pattern at congested airports, but a straight in approach when it's not too busy and you're on radio and properly communicating and a straight and approach on a controlled airport is more than acceptable.

    • @badgerfishinski6857
      @badgerfishinski6857 Год назад +2

      Agree. Just because we have protocols, dont assume everyone flying them. Some aircraft at non conrolled airports dont even have radios. That was the case in a recent mid-air collision near Ormand Florida

  • @someone56505
    @someone56505 Год назад

    this was honestly a great explanation of traffic patterns. thanks for helping us understand it.

  • @naharih96
    @naharih96 4 года назад +84

    It’s like taxing but in the air

  • @GZA036
    @GZA036 2 года назад +2

    Only thing missing is procedure for entering pattern opposite the downwind side. The preferred teardrop entry and the alternate midfield crossover direct entry into the downwind.

  • @lordmerren9094
    @lordmerren9094 3 года назад +1

    Ehhh.............now I see where I have been going wrong on my landings. I see at 1:37 that I should have been landing on my nose wheel first, I'll correct that on my next flight. Thanks so much. What a great instructional video for us all to follow.

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад

      I do wish the graphics were a little less "nose dive".

  • @Oceansta
    @Oceansta 4 года назад +7

    Really well explained with GREAT and simple animation ✨👍🏾

  • @skylersaviation1954
    @skylersaviation1954 4 года назад +1

    This helps me to become a airline pilot thank you so much a wish to fly in the near future!

  • @anthonybenavides720
    @anthonybenavides720 5 лет назад +5

    If an airport or airstrip has multiple runways, does each runway have it’s corresponding traffic pattern? Or do you just enter the one pattern using the one mile distance? Sorry if it’s a dumb question. Just doing some self study before I start my pilot training in Spring.

    • @zachb1706
      @zachb1706 5 лет назад +2

      Each runway has a seperate pattern, as he showed when he drew the compass thing
      At least that’s what I’m guessing

  • @dylconnaway9976
    @dylconnaway9976 6 лет назад +7

    Thank you Embry Riddle. So sick of people calling upwind when on the departure leg. This is a good example of how training under part 61 just allows bad habits to be passed down without any checks. One CFI misunderstanding infects multiple new pilots. I never hear anyone get the departure leg call correct anymore.

    • @jeffdo9195
      @jeffdo9195 5 лет назад +5

      Better tell that to the tower. Ha ha. Just after take off tower sometime s says "extend upwind, I'll call your crosswind" gee guess feds have it all wrong

    • @conorhiggs847
      @conorhiggs847 Год назад +1

      It’s more the individual instructor not whether a person is 61 or 141. Many 141 instructors came from 61. I trained and taught at both. Part 61 cowboys rise up

    • @deanfowlkes
      @deanfowlkes Год назад

      Not all towers get it wrong. Most that I fly into would say continue flying runway heading. They would not say to continue flying upwind.

  • @ak9079
    @ak9079 4 года назад +56

    Instructions unclear. Now I got my wife pregnant...

    • @Wildicon19
      @Wildicon19 4 года назад +3

      Mile high club?

    • @Nutteri
      @Nutteri 4 года назад +6

      You probably mistakenly stayed in the pattern instead of departing it.

    • @bien.mp4
      @bien.mp4 2 года назад

      @@Nutteri 😂😂😂

  • @SaartjeandRufus
    @SaartjeandRufus 4 года назад +2

    What if you depart and another plane comes from upwind leg turning crosswind...how do you avoid collision?

    • @mikefixac
      @mikefixac 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps apply brakes and give crosswind plane (since he's to the right) time to pass.

  • @bobyoung241
    @bobyoung241 5 лет назад

    so pattern direction on the map 3:34. RP 17 , 26 . not being a pilot , I'm assuming RP for Right Pattern. and can I assume 17 , 26 are runways. And if assumption is correct. can I also assume that there are at least two runways : 17/35 & 26/80. and if so would pattern be,
    LP 35 , 80, to keep all trafic together or is it RP respectively?

    • @mekkler
      @mekkler 5 лет назад

      One runway is going to have two designations; 17 (somewhere around 170 deg) and 26 are 180 degrees apart. You can also have 17 L (left) and 17 R, and possibly an intersecting runway like 21. This is where you would have non-standard traffic patterns, which you would have to become familiar with in each case.

    • @ERAUSpecialVFR
      @ERAUSpecialVFR  5 лет назад

      Yes, there are 4 possible runways at this airport: 8, 17, 26, and 35. Patterns are left unless specified right. So, 8 and 35 are left.

  • @cherfieldm
    @cherfieldm 6 лет назад +7

    load of information, with your videos. Thanks.

  • @fery2531
    @fery2531 5 лет назад +3

    The "upwind leg" in the UK is called the "Dead Side".

    • @jeffdo9195
      @jeffdo9195 5 лет назад

      Figures

    • @poggs
      @poggs 5 лет назад

      Thank you - I hadn't realised that we call it something different!

  • @ahmadsamadzai8255
    @ahmadsamadzai8255 Год назад

    How do you exit to the N or S if the runway is E and W? Exit 45 degrees L or R from the upwind and then find your direct course from the departure airport?

  • @jlhrstv
    @jlhrstv 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for properly identifying the Departure Leg

  • @timbean5755
    @timbean5755 6 лет назад +9

    This is normally a spot on team but because you said standard I have to chime in as a CFI. You only gave some of the info. You depart the pattern at pattern altitude straight out or on the 45 not at an altitude of your discretion. You turn crosswind 300 ft bellow traffic pattern and turn downwind at pattern altitude. If your going to teach standard pattern procedures teach all the standard procedures. This is a common mistake by most instructors who fail to follow the FAR/AIM and omit the altitudes or should I say an example of primacy.. There’s also the AC 90-66A to further clarify. For you students make sure you verify procedures in the chart supplement to make sure the airport operates standard procedures or non standard especially pattern altitudes and traffic pattern. Never assume. Great video just not fully complete.

    • @anvdi
      @anvdi 5 лет назад

      I’m to lazy to read that all

    • @perpetualsystems
      @perpetualsystems 5 лет назад

      krazy sheep002 good for you

  • @mekkler
    @mekkler 5 лет назад +11

    Helicopter pilots generally ignore all those rules to avoid messing up the airplane drivers air.

    • @namedropper9237
      @namedropper9237 5 лет назад +2

      Helicopter pilots are a special breed. They fly nap of the earth then land on a taxiway. I hope to one day be one of them 😁

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад +1

      Helicopters have their own patterns. 500 ft AGL instead of 1000, downwind is 1/2 mile from the RWY instead of 1 mile. Standard is RIGHT instead of Left traffic. That allows helos to SEE (and avoid) the other, less maneuverable traffic (fixed wing planes).
      They aren't "ignoring" the rules. They are following their rules. The rules that, like all the other rules, are designed to keep us all safe.

  • @mdmominurrahman7586
    @mdmominurrahman7586 5 лет назад +4

    Awesome 👍 very informative and well designed

  • @jessicaalmeida9887
    @jessicaalmeida9887 3 года назад +1

    Perfect!!!! Thank you for posting this video, it has helped me so much!!💕💖

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 5 лет назад

    We don't do the 45 degree join in the UK. It seems like someone is butting into the circuit and jumping ahead of the queue, causing confusion to the position of traffic. Ok if you are the only aircraft at the airfield.

  • @bitterlemonboy
    @bitterlemonboy 5 лет назад +5

    I wish to study at Embry Riddle University sometime in the future

  • @mintyaviation2376
    @mintyaviation2376 5 лет назад +1

    That animation is so realistic. What software is used?

  • @maximolopezsr9399
    @maximolopezsr9399 2 года назад

    Excelente demostration ,with words and dipiction

  • @Cherfield-D-Blessedman
    @Cherfield-D-Blessedman Год назад

    Is auto pilot allowed to use during circuit pattern training?

  • @ehsan83
    @ehsan83 5 лет назад +1

    very informative and a clear voice. liked and subscribed. Thank you

  • @carthurfreitag726
    @carthurfreitag726 6 лет назад +9

    Very informative thanks

  • @pigslefats
    @pigslefats 6 лет назад +1

    How to handle a situation when incoming traffic is joining at 45 degrees and a plane is staying in the pattern and has taken off and has turned into the downwind leg?

    • @Hedgeflexlfz
      @Hedgeflexlfz 5 лет назад

      pigslefats how do you effectively avoid traffic during uncontrolled field patterns? What if you are too close to another plane? How can you gauge if you are too close to not?

  • @lawdawg6245
    @lawdawg6245 4 года назад

    You take the turn on the crosswind leg when you are 500 ft then from crosswind to down wind at 1000 ft

  • @476digital3
    @476digital3 4 года назад +34

    0:15
    A bunch of students practicing touch and go

  • @werock9
    @werock9 3 года назад

    Best visual where! Thank you

  • @2mnyshp
    @2mnyshp 4 года назад +1

    2:26, I know why you stopped the sequence there...

  • @dzdz7453
    @dzdz7453 7 лет назад +6

    great explanation thanks guys

  • @Eyes_On_Sky
    @Eyes_On_Sky 4 года назад

    Great video and graphics. Thanks very much.

  • @Part_121_Wannabe
    @Part_121_Wannabe 2 года назад

    Clean video mate!

  • @malsomalso
    @malsomalso 6 лет назад +6

    wow i learned a lot, thank you!

  • @tjkennedy380
    @tjkennedy380 4 года назад

    Does the runway change direction when the wind changes

    • @abbysnowmist
      @abbysnowmist 4 года назад

      TJ Kennedy What do you mean?

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад

      Yes. Runway choice is (nearly) always dictated by wind direction. If RWYs are 27/9 and wind is generally from the east, RWY 9 would be the appropriate runway. If the wind then shifted to somewhere closer to 270 (west), then RWY 27 would become the appropriate runway.

  • @tselinsky6452
    @tselinsky6452 Год назад

    Thanks, very clear, easy to absorb.

  • @chupert
    @chupert 4 года назад +1

    This needs to be a game

  • @cenadatdeltasolutionstnnet2348
    @cenadatdeltasolutionstnnet2348 5 лет назад +1

    ROGER THIS IS TWR control -R U READY FOR TAXIING ?

  • @capt.imanuddinyunusshmh.6549
    @capt.imanuddinyunusshmh.6549 2 года назад

    Nice.. thanks for sharing....

  • @williammickelson403
    @williammickelson403 3 года назад

    How convenient the pilot is always coming from the most ideal location for the downwind entry

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад

      There are "standard" ways to approach patterns. Runway flyover, and others. All of them get the pilot and plane into that "convenient" position of entering the downwind from the "most ideal" location.
      Simply put, you fly TO that convenient location, via standard turns/altitudes/procedures, than enter the pattern.

  • @Kenny-Ross
    @Kenny-Ross 3 года назад

    This was really good! Thank you!

  • @gjgifigogjdyeyyeoh3940
    @gjgifigogjdyeyyeoh3940 2 года назад

    Perfect.physics.clean.clear.informative.thank.u.so.much.stuff🎖🌏🎗🎖verry.well

  • @ahmadtheaviationlover1937
    @ahmadtheaviationlover1937 5 лет назад

    Some people say that standard holding pattern is right turn this one says its left turn as standard. Who is correct or wrong??

    • @airwipe1639
      @airwipe1639 5 лет назад +1

      Ahmad Sayyed it may depend on the country, what kind of airport it is, if theres obstructions on either side. Lot of factors.

    • @ahmadtheaviationlover1937
      @ahmadtheaviationlover1937 5 лет назад

      Airwipe ohh ok, thanks for that

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад +1

      HOLDING PATTERN is not the same as TRAFFIC PATTERN. Standard holding pattern is RIGHT. Standard traffic pattern is LEFT. Holding patterns are usually done somewhere away from the airport. The pilot/plane gets into a standard holding pattern to allow traffic in front of him to vacate the area, land, etc. He will safely fly the racetrack pattern until ATC advises it's safe to exit THAT pattern and head for the TRAFFIC pattern.

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 6 лет назад +8

    I'm sure every pilot entering upwind leg will sing the go around song :D

  • @ralphdeconinck1245
    @ralphdeconinck1245 8 лет назад +2

    Wich program did you use

  • @a7mooda
    @a7mooda 6 лет назад

    is this the ponte de sor airport in portugal?

  • @miguelfernandes657
    @miguelfernandes657 3 года назад

    Great stuff!

  • @velavanlaack9134
    @velavanlaack9134 5 лет назад +3

    This is definitely better than the kings’

  • @GZA036
    @GZA036 2 года назад +1

    The total disregard for standard procedure for exiting the pattern is a real problem. 90% of people I see are doing made-up "downwind departures," "crosswind departures"... Or taking off and immediately turning whatever direction they please, often directly head on into other traffic entering on the standard 45 to downwind.
    The AIM advises us to climb to pattern altitude and then depart either straight ahead or in a 45 degree turn in the direction of the pattern. This is for a good reason - it separates you from traffic entering the downwind.
    Instructors, start teaching people this stuff.

  • @jeffdo9195
    @jeffdo9195 5 лет назад +4

    Departure is not part of the pattern that part is called upwind

    • @ERAUSpecialVFR
      @ERAUSpecialVFR  5 лет назад +2

      That's what it used to be called. If you check the most recent version of the Airplane Flying Handbook you will see it is now called the Departure leg.
      www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/media/09_afh_ch7.pdf

  • @uarhodesian
    @uarhodesian 5 лет назад +6

    2:45 two 54-th numbers . against the rules=)

  • @olgastrika6185
    @olgastrika6185 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot!! Very useful

  • @whatsyournameson7208
    @whatsyournameson7208 4 года назад +2

    Try this at Innsbruck 👍🏻

    • @abbysnowmist
      @abbysnowmist 4 года назад +1

      What’s your name ,son That’s why some airports have special patterns.

  • @glendawindham17
    @glendawindham17 7 лет назад +1

    what is compas Rose?

    • @ERAUSpecialVFR
      @ERAUSpecialVFR  7 лет назад +1

      A compass rose is a visual depiction of a compass that shows the location of the cardinal directions (North, East, West, and South) relative to the position of the figure. They are often found on charts and sometimes even painted on the surface of an airport and are used to orient the user to the cardinal directions.

  • @shubhamjaiswal3029
    @shubhamjaiswal3029 5 лет назад +87

    25 *Dislikers* are from FSX Steam Edition!!

  • @DocRigel
    @DocRigel 4 года назад

    Really good video

  • @teegreenburg
    @teegreenburg 4 года назад +1

    Thank You!!!

  • @jonaskaye7884
    @jonaskaye7884 3 года назад

    on 2:46 at ktmb , "traffic on 1 mile final cleared for takeoff no delay"

  • @pitchpowerbank
    @pitchpowerbank 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks 👍🏼

  • @FlyLeah
    @FlyLeah 2 года назад

    Departure is usually called Upwind. Atleast that’s how I was instructed

  • @cptray-steam
    @cptray-steam 3 года назад

    I think I might try to program an NPC to do this in a flight sim in Unity. Should be challenging...

  • @DrThunder88
    @DrThunder88 3 года назад

    Those Cessnas have the same regulation number! That's going to cause some confusion with ATC.

  • @nachomarimba
    @nachomarimba 7 лет назад

    Great videos!

  • @messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
    @messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 6 лет назад

    Great video.

  • @nytom4info
    @nytom4info 7 лет назад +3

    Watch your base to final “stall”

  • @wangvince9259
    @wangvince9259 6 лет назад +2

    Very clear! Thanks a lot!

  • @drewhour
    @drewhour 4 года назад

    This makes everything a lotttttt simpler

  • @MrAlwaysBlue
    @MrAlwaysBlue 6 лет назад +1

    Overhead join??

  • @aryanbajaj7165
    @aryanbajaj7165 4 года назад +2

    You sound like the person that narrates the safety video played on airlines before takeoff😂, nice vid tho

  • @kimsiu3587
    @kimsiu3587 4 года назад

    Japan, UK : On your left
    USA, S. Korea : On your right

  • @alsaif3386
    @alsaif3386 5 лет назад +3

    Oooooooh so that's why the controller has been screaming at me at FSX

  • @patrickmasai1141
    @patrickmasai1141 2 года назад

    Spin recovery at angle theta..

  • @themetrixx1970
    @themetrixx1970 4 года назад +2

    I’m practicing Flight Simulator 2020

  • @Lanzottv
    @Lanzottv 5 лет назад +4

    **tries Traffic Pattern in FlightSim with friends**
    Someone: “WTF ARE YOU DOING ?!”
    Someone2: “No! Its not like that! Youre wrong, let me show you how its done”
    Someone3: **crashed**
    Inside me: “i made a mistake”

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 года назад

      Flight sim pilots would do very well to watch this video. I hear FS pilots daily describe their "Traffic Pattern" as 10 miles away at 12,000 ft.

  • @hackoola
    @hackoola 5 лет назад +5

    Okay RUclips recommended

  • @sazmannimat
    @sazmannimat 4 года назад +1

    👍🏻👌🏻

  • @seronswordson7396
    @seronswordson7396 6 лет назад

    Thanks so much

  • @sliferxxxx
    @sliferxxxx 6 лет назад +25

    Noise abatement is such bs. The majority of airports were there wayy b4 residences. Then people move close to airports and complain. Smh

    • @dylconnaway9976
      @dylconnaway9976 6 лет назад +8

      Dumb comment. I have no problem with it. Not everyone gets to choose where they live, or their work schedule could change and something that never bothered them before is now an issue. Plus, you want to keep property values high and generate public support for airports (since the public pays for it). If you annoy them enough, you’ll lose the airport all together. Making people’s lives harder and potentially losing airport funding because “the airport was there first” is something a little kid would say bro and is just selfish. Pilots and airports are part of the community, and we gotta look out for our neighbors.

    • @sliferxxxx
      @sliferxxxx 6 лет назад +4

      @@dylconnaway9976 dude relax. Fact of the matter is, most airports started off in remote sparsely populated areas. Then people moved in and started to complain. Don't want to deal with noisy planes, dont live close to one. Or better yet stop flying. There you go; no more noisy planes. Denver's international airport when it was built, was built about as remote as an airport can be. Just watch, in a few years time, people will move in close by , then complain.

    • @apolloxv8820
      @apolloxv8820 5 лет назад +2

      jay C I’m sorry but the logic of, ‘Something was here first, this it shouldn’t have to change or adapt to change/progress’ is simply not a valid point. It merely states a fact then why something shouldn’t have to change when, from what I have heard, is based off of public funding (obviously private airports might be different) Also, I’m pretty sure certain noise abatement really isn’t that big of an issue for most pilots. Just going off of what I’ve heard. If you could explain to me as a slight newbie as to why it’s ‘BS’, I’d be glad to discuss. Keep in mind I’m a bit new though.

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 5 лет назад +3

      @@apolloxv8820 so move next door to a pig farm and complain about the smell.

    • @abbysnowmist
      @abbysnowmist 4 года назад

      Apollo XV Try telling pilots based at Santa Monica that Noise Abatements is not a big deal.

  • @fenimorefillmore5322
    @fenimorefillmore5322 Год назад

    0:59

  • @johndoes2434
    @johndoes2434 5 лет назад

    Generally does not apply to helicopters

  • @itrollspeed_56
    @itrollspeed_56 4 месяца назад

    Yes, I do this everyday 😭💀

  • @StarWarsGaming-ul5sg
    @StarWarsGaming-ul5sg 5 лет назад

    WHY AM I WATCHING THIS!!! I probably won't even get my pilots license.

  • @rachidlalgerino4153
    @rachidlalgerino4153 2 года назад

    ❤️

  • @ad1vet783
    @ad1vet783 5 лет назад

    👍👍👍

  • @cdanielrs1
    @cdanielrs1 4 года назад

    2:36 parece real

  • @clumsydins9771
    @clumsydins9771 6 лет назад +2

    am taking notes lol

  • @subsoar5734
    @subsoar5734 2 года назад

    i know some ATPs that would do well to watch this video 🙄

  • @MonsoonMally
    @MonsoonMally 3 года назад

    what is 'lie-and'??? L. A. N. D.

  • @georgen9755
    @georgen9755 2 года назад

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  • @isac.2h
    @isac.2h 4 года назад

    Tetraheedrohnez