And the thing is he was the least suspected member....but I d k if any high power is behind this or not.....bcoz things escalated very quickly....it's like suddenly all things were out and he was painted all guilty ....and they say it was all going on for years .... I just can't seem to accept in taeil case
@@namjoonslostpassport5668 Lucas only had gaslighting allegations that too made by ssaengs...don't bring him into this...he isn't even associated with that group anymore 😭
@@namjoonslostpassport5668 Lucas case is literally nothing, because a sasaeng made up everything, and she's proud many believed that and that she (and her group of sasaengs) ruined Lucas's career..
Can you imagine how his family must be feeling-especially his mother and sister? And what about his friends and fans who look up to him? Geez… While I don’t stan the group, I’ve seen enough clips of NCT and gotten a general sense of Taeil as an introverted, always-smiling type of guy who’s respected by his members as the eldest hyung. This news really shocked me to my core because I keep thinking about my ults. These people are my comfort, my inspiration to be the best version of myself, and they’ve given me so much hope and laughter. Imagining that they might not be who they appear to be on camera would break my heart into pieces 😢
Wait he was the oldest? I thought taeyong was the oldest. Anyways i heard his childhood friend of MANY years also unfollowed him. His sister and mother must be feeling embarrassed because i suppose people around them must be aware that taeil is their family
@@NCTZEN4LIFE yes he's not proven guilty legally. But everyone around him abandoned his side. That's why people are already 90% believing that he most likely did something
@@NCTZEN4LIFE wake up.. sm let him go just like that and his friend of 17 YEARS unfollowed him on instagram. i know it's hard to accept, but imagine what the victim must be feeling, hearing you defend him just because he's an idol, after all they must have gone through
I mean the fact that there were these 2 out of 3 rumors were not true is wild csuse the 3rd one is really messed up and the other two that were claimed not ture are even more messed up. Good thinking for sm to not be a part of this. I know very little about nct but this is just crazy
@@naldo3008 I don't really agree with this because if he is actually innocent, yall will bring this up and keep a disgusting rumor alive. We need more time for more info to come out before making such an accusation.
I can only pray for the victims safety. The way i'm so disgusted that this has been going on since 2018, where the victim at that time is still a minor and got recorded without consent was crazy. Beware of the least to be suspected people everyone. Edit: unfortunately, i got the wrong information for this one, and bringing wrong information can influence the target life for the worse. I still want to pray for the victims safety. I apologize for typing in this comment.
Hey where did you get that information? The crime wasn’t disclosed from what I know and the police stated that it happened and the complaint was filed in June of this year. Please, don’t spread misinformation about the case and don’t spread rumors, that is disrespectful even to the victim. Let’s just stick to the official statements issued by the police and the agency, and all confirmed information.
The police specifically stated that his crimes are NOT against a minor. Even if she is an adult now, If she was a minor when he committed these acts, it would be considered SA of a minor which it is not...
@@absolutelynotellen The police statement said "there was NO MINOR involved".. As @yeol174 already said, (paraphrasing): spreading misinformation or rumors are disrespectful even to the victim.. Social media is NOT a trust worthy place to take info from..
@@monsterhanna6691and id bet everything in this world that it's MAJORITY of them. this is the kpop industry we're talking about and we, frankly, dont know who they are behind the screen or off camera
@@monsterhanna6691how would you know which one isn't before this news you believed taeil was not like this, before burning sun Noone believed sungri was like that It's just like other idols mess isn't out yet taeil's mess spilled.....
@@reyphobic then quit listening to music and watching films altogether bc anyone can be a bad person behind the scene and you would never know exactly who
@@lovelymill yeah, exactly. thats why im saying quit trusting everyone with your life. listening/watching the content ≠ trusting them more than yourself.
I’m curious about the actual facts of the case, so I hope some more actual info will be released soon. Social media went into overdrive churning out outlandish rumors when the news broke and it’s so sad (for the victim primarily) how that always happens because it can really undermine the case. I just hope the victim will be okay and get justice.
It's actually crazy that they can get out of jail if you have connections, power and money even if they did SA but they will get 4years and hate thrown at them for just smoking weed
I will NEVER understand what goes on in the mind of someone who defends people like this. Not even if there isn’t enough evidence and they’re delulu and want to believe their idol is innocent (that’s also shitty) but when there is HELLA proof (like burning sun) how do you defend that? What’s going on in your mind???? That they’ll change? Or that they’ll love you for dying for them??? I hope the victim doesn’t get their identity leaked if they don’t want to go public. Honestly im so dissatisfied and disappointed with how sexual crimes are dealt with all over the world but especially in Korea, I hope he gets a serious punishment
i hope this will serve as a wake-up call and a reminder to some stans who are really devoting a lot of their time, energy and money to idols. remember that we don’t know these people and probably never will unless things like this come out. to think how many more idols could also be like this but just haven’t been caught yet… stop idolising people so much!!
With what happened to Lucas, I'm not sure if I want to believe this... but with how easily they let him go, and still kept Lucas... yall, I think I believe it !
Btch pls-that man (TI) is the one who was proven to commit all these crimes, yet y’all are directing the hate to the man who was clearly framed by a group of sasaengs (LC)? Keep Lucas out of your mouths-you don’t really care about the REAL VICTIMS anyways
I used to be a kpop fan earlier and since I was not upto kpop news on my feed I never knew what was going on here though I didn't stan nct before but I loved their music and members and choreography and now hearing this devastating news OMG? I can't believe. And fans are protecting him? Like are you out of your mind imagine yourself in that little girl/boy's place . Still you would've defended it ? And I literally can't get theses fans who called that girl "lucky" because she got sa by a kpop idol and wished to be at hers place. Please touch some grass
its never a "mutual decision". Its always the company letting them go. This includes contract renewal statements and its almost always based on hard popularity or financial numbers.
@@NCTZEN4LIFE idgaf bcs he’s already been criminally charged and kicked out. Knowing that he and sm had a discussion regarding his departure and proceeded with it should tell you everything. Not only that but ALL nct members have unfollowed him on ALL socials. The victim suffered for 6 years…., even back in June she was commenting under his posts saying he doesn’t deserve to be an idol, and just recently, she has stated that she will press charges against him. If SM truly believed he was innocent, they would have put him on hiatus just like Lucas, but no, he was kicked out instantly, which means there is plenty evidence to back up what he did. SM never kicks out idols let alone disbands them, taking action even BEFORE the scandal got out shocked everyone as SM never acts this quick, clearly they had evidence against his doings.
@@NCTZEN4LIFEwhy are you defending him, SM LITERALLY KICKED HIM OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY FIND OUT which is not what SM usually does and all the members unfollowed him so THIS SHOWS THAT HE DID SOMETHING BAD. don’t try to defend him he is literally a BAD PERSON FOR DOING THAT
it’s like just because he is an idol of such a famous group, (the least popular member anyway), he feels he can get away with such evil actions. Shame on that man.
I always found him weird. Like, how are you the oldest in the group but doesn't know how to communicate. I know everyone has a certain image in kpop but, it felt like he was keeping that monster on a tight leash.
IF, and that’s a huge IF he was involved, I hope he gets punished. Unlike it seems most NCTzens, I’m old enough to remember all too well the price paid for innocent celebrities in Korean culture who were blamed too soon. I’m reserving judgement until we actually know anything more than “he’s been implicated”.
@@monsterhanna6691 Lucas was kicked out of NCT and look what happened. Soojin was kicked out of GIDLE and looked what happened. There are others. All I’m saying is to hold judgement until all the facts come out.
Thank you for your clarification. I was consumed by devastation and frustration, with the thought of having spent years unknowingly supporting a child molester. As someone who refuses to justify or excuse such heinous behavior, even in cases of severe psychological issues, the irony of my situation was suffocating. The guilt I've carried over the past 24 hours has been a painful reckoning with my own guilt and values. But it's now bearable knowing that innocent children weren't involved... Not that I take adult SA lightly, it is unforgivable but the thought of me hanging a Child Molester's poster in my room makes the women in me sick to the core.. Like I won't even wanna forgive myself
This is why you shouldn't idolize celebrities, period! You don't know who they are in real life. People make mistakes all the time. I don't care how popular they are, wrong is still wrong and there is no excuse for that.
Wait for police report...so much exaggeration and lies in the media often than not. If true just sad for the victim and offender as he ruined two lives...
Weird how the media covered up SA but exaggerated Suga's DUI with lies. It feels like media used Suga to cover up actual crimes. Korean law and media are weird.
That's why as a kpop fan, I always think of these idols as just celebrities rather than some deities, unlike some koreaboo wannabes who can never accept that these idols are also just humans who can be wrong, that's crazy to think that how still people would come to justify just because he is their favorite on screen and they don't know him personally
While I'm not saying the guy is innocent since I know nothing about him or the situation. I do know that sm is a joke, and that they will always choose to protect themselves over their artists. They've done it before. Literally let a bully rumor destroy t-ara. I don't trust their judgement. They would rather let talent go then get their hands dirty in any capacity.
I'm a czennie, he's my third bias but after learning all of these crimes he did I don't even wanna say or hear his name, I don't wanna see his face. It hurts so much and still could not digest everything. For such a small man, the oldest of them all, one of the most quiet and matured member or person we knew. Beneath that facade, he's a terrible terrible person. I feel sorry to the members who looked up to him, who trusted him as one of the pillar of the group, as a friend, as a family. I feel sorry to his victims, my sympathy goes to them and only to them. I don't even know how to hold this emotions I'm feeling, to be a czennie through and through, I wanna say I'm betrayed but you know 'can't really say that. At the end of the day we don't know them at all, this apply to all idols, actors, celebrities.
SM really owns the trashy journalists. They covered this up really well that no one knew about it. What happens to innocent until proven guilty? The public always find everyone guilty as soon as an allegation announced.
Innocent until proven guilty is something that only apply when it come to the law, we citizens of the word have the right to make our own decisions of the situation regardless of the law.
@@hannaansari2921real cause im definitely an nctzen but bro, sm NEVER kicks out their idols this fast, so there’s no way that this ain’t serious. Like they normally would go on hiatus first to investigate, but SM was quick with it. and the fact that all the members unfollowed him so quickly too, like this is serious bro and the people defending him need to be fr
@@hyujinsmissinghairthe reason SM was quick is because this investigation has been going on since june. So that's about 3 months of this being a ongoing thing. But the reporters kept quite until SM broke it yesterday. So basically it looks like SM kicked him out as soon as the police contacted him but the thing is they just kept quite since june so now it looks like they kicked him out right away
You're so pretty ❤ that's all I wanted to say. Taeil's bombshell news was crazy. Wtf is going on in South Korea these days? And I thought America was on some sh*t
Korean media bullied Suga for DUI without harming anyone and Jennie for vaping indoors while this case was completely silent,it's just international fans who were loud.
@@kkurasan_official no article on naver, it's the google of south korea, reporters on social media are quiet, and knetz giving excuses that because it's not a popular group so reporters just don't care
FFS! AHHHHHHHH! Why does this always happen. Companies please screen idols as they get older to make sure they aren’t getting too pushy or carried away. If the rumours aren’t completely factual then I hope more work will be done to make sure everyone gets the correct treatment and the real victims get justice.
Holy crap. While im not gonna pass judgement until all the facts come out but holy crap? I hope this is just an extremely sick rumor and no people were actually victims.
Actually we should not just spit out things in flow of emotions ...so lets just wait if he guilty or etc.. cuz we are nothing to say something to him without the statement so should wait ....literally world is going too far it is not only in korea but other countries too damnn
At the same time why do I feel like the blame goes on those fans who never let these K pop idols breathe peacefully? If they talk with a girl there goes a scandal, if they look at someone there goes another scandal! Idk I'm in a dilemma!
I don't follow NCT but my understanding of the case is as follows The lady in question alleges that the young man watched her through her phone in compromising situations undressing, showering etc? This is the reason fans are not quick to condemn him. There was no alleged s*xual contact between the two, mainly voyeurism on his part. I don't know for a fact that this is correct, but since he's not in jail and was allowed to leave the police station after questioning it rings true to me
Honestly I'm surprised by how quick the action is. When Lucas was faced with accusations (I forgot the deets) he took a hiatus first before leaving NCT.
Don't jump to conclusions, I don't know anything about this, but I do remember Lee Seon Kyoon and EVERYBODY condemned him until after his death when they looked a little bit closer at his accuser. I'm just saying reserve your judgement until the police and courts are done.
Stfu apologist, ya'll are always trying to come up with excuses to defend predators, pretty sure you support kris wu, Hyuna's predator fiance and seungri too
Understood. I remember all the hate that Roy Kim got because he had a minor connection to chat with Burning Sun but it turned out to be nothing, yet his career kind of tanked since then.
Average K-pop fan: Kpop idols are angels Meanwhile, K-pop idols: It's jaeil time!! One thing we have to agree, these damn kpop companies give some EXCELLENT PRs to their idols. The more popular they become, the more powerful their PR becomes.
I am not getting a good feeling about this. What I mean is that the victim, who everyone is hailing as a hero, may not be as innocent as all that she is portrayed in the media to be. This could very well be a set up on her part to blackmail Taeil into doing things and then hit SM entertainment with a huge lawsuit in order to receive millions of $$. Why was this sat on for 6 years? I find it hard to believe that she wasn’t aware of activity on her phone for that entire time. Of course, I might be completely wrong and I admit that, but before we throw stones at Taeil, we must find out all the facts. Above all, each of us has to acknowledge that we are all sinners in need of God’s mercy and are not above falling into sin. We need the grace of God ALL THE TIME. I pray for the victim AND Taeil and their families.
Its a shame that most fangirls of nct, kpop bg stans (especially sm bg stans) will defend him........ and ofcourse korean males will defend him as well
I'm scared. I'm seriously scared. I am not a big fan of nct like Ik a few songs but can't declare myself a fan. I am an army and yes know few other kpop songs. But after this came and seeing the fans of nct getting utterly shocked scares me. I heard he was considered the cutest, funniest one among others. And now this???? Do we really know our idols. I'm scared I'm seriously scared. I'm not arguing Ik bts personally but every kpop fans out there do u feel me?? I mean bts personally is just not a boyband to me they are literally everything to me. During my hardest time it was always themmm And the only men I trust But really??? Do we know our idols??? It might be really HEARTBREAKING FOR ALL the nct fans.
Honey you don't know your idols, you need to open your eyes. Seeing them on videos doesn't equal to knowing them and even if you were friends with them you still wouldn't know them completely, people always hide stuff specially when they know it's something bad
This definitely wasn’t on my 2024 bingo card, man this year is such a weird and fucked up year😢 anyways thought u were talking about Bts Jimin bc the thumbnail looked like him idk 😂
@@PetitsPas_ But then why would they directly kick him out ? Why not just put him on hiatus just like the others ? His reputation is de@d anyways I don't think that SM wants to do anything with him anymore
@@Lolori88I don’t have answers to those questions but I don’t also know what they are thinking. However, I won’t be shocked if they find a way around it. They have done it before. A quick trip to the military or a moderately long hiatus followed by a pity-party and for them he will be good to go. Them kicking him out and deleting stuff before the news start making round just show that their PR is working overtime. This has been going on for a month. One article was written and then taken down. Despite, whatever internet is singing we don’t know who knew or who didn’t. There is NO WAY that NO ONE didn’t know that he was under investigation. NO WAY. With the vulture that fill the rank of k-media ? 💀
@@PetitsPas_ I think that even if SM holded on to him people will still demand his departure from the company since he lost the trust of his fans and of korean people. And I totally agree with you last statement, there is no way that the investigation has been going on for almost a month and SM hearing about it just 2 weeks ago, it's SA that we are talking about after all.
Are there rules anywhere against saying the words " sexual assault"?. It seems the words " innocent until proven guilty" no longer have meaning. Or is that just the Korean way? And before anyone gets all butt hurt I'm not defending anyone just asking questions.
Yes there are, social media is sensitive and if you say the words they would take down your video and maybe even your account. And what innocent until proven guilty you mean? He IS guilty, they've been investigating him since june and he is also cooperating with the police, he basically surrendered to the police himself
SA stands for sexual assault/harassment. It can include inappropriate acts such as touching or much worse. Taeil is being accused of doing these kinds of acts to two children, which is very disgusting of him.
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I didn't woke up for this😭 lmao its jaeil time.
Lol jaeil time😭✋
You ate
@@Seungberrycult_stan And you did too by being a seungberry😍
@@RYUs_adrractive_biatch what can I say 🤷🏼♀️
I just woke up and I got this news what the heck
I'm not surprised that they're people defending him. They're people to this day that still defend Seungri even after all the disgusting things he did.
wild
Heck there are people that still defend Diddy and even Chris Brown. I don't get people.....
@@jamesrawlins735chris brown guy even has his songs being popular and charting out there. It's almost as if nobody stopped listening to him even now
It's still not proven he's guilty as for Seungri he can f off 🧑🦯
I don't see many ppl defending Taeil. On the contrary his fandom is very disappointed in him.
“Mutual decision” nah they kicked his ass out
Fr solid evidence is needed for this
Bruh SM saw what happened to YG and were like ‘that ain’t gonna be us’ 😀
Smart move from SM tbh
But they kept lucas??
@@cremepufflelucas did nothing wrong. All the accusations had been proven false. And also, the accusations were not sex crimes.
@@cremepuffleDid Lucas killed someone, abused someone, or committed SA? No right? All he did was just being a scum bag and nothing more
@@cremepuffle Lucas was proven innocent multiple times. Please don't compare him to this scumbag.
As an nctzen, this is the craziest thing that has ever happened in neo city
Ikr..Lucas'case is literally nothing if we are talking about what taeil did
And the thing is he was the least suspected member....but I d k if any high power is behind this or not.....bcoz things escalated very quickly....it's like suddenly all things were out and he was painted all guilty ....and they say it was all going on for years .... I just can't seem to accept in taeil case
@@namjoonslostpassport5668 Lucas only had gaslighting allegations that too made by ssaengs...don't bring him into this...he isn't even associated with that group anymore 😭
@@namjoonslostpassport5668 Lucas case is literally nothing, because a sasaeng made up everything, and she's proud many believed that and that she (and her group of sasaengs) ruined Lucas's career..
@@flor07 ur right, compared to this one, it instantly came from sm and taeil himself
Can you imagine how his family must be feeling-especially his mother and sister? And what about his friends and fans who look up to him? Geez… While I don’t stan the group, I’ve seen enough clips of NCT and gotten a general sense of Taeil as an introverted, always-smiling type of guy who’s respected by his members as the eldest hyung. This news really shocked me to my core because I keep thinking about my ults. These people are my comfort, my inspiration to be the best version of myself, and they’ve given me so much hope and laughter. Imagining that they might not be who they appear to be on camera would break my heart into pieces 😢
Wait he was the oldest? I thought taeyong was the oldest. Anyways i heard his childhood friend of MANY years also unfollowed him. His sister and mother must be feeling embarrassed because i suppose people around them must be aware that taeil is their family
It's still not proven that he's guilty litterly what are You PEOPLE on about....😂
@@NCTZEN4LIFE yes he's not proven guilty legally. But everyone around him abandoned his side. That's why people are already 90% believing that he most likely did something
@@NCTZEN4LIFE wake up.. sm let him go just like that and his friend of 17 YEARS unfollowed him on instagram. i know it's hard to accept, but imagine what the victim must be feeling, hearing you defend him just because he's an idol, after all they must have gone through
@@haewonniee42 nope im gonna wait until the POLICE SAY SOMETHING SM COULD HAVE FORCED THE MEMBERS TO UNFOLLOW TAEIL 💯
If he doesn't get jail it means someone got paid 😢😢 this is park shin hoo case all over again
I mean the fact that there were these 2 out of 3 rumors were not true is wild csuse the 3rd one is really messed up and the other two that were claimed not ture are even more messed up. Good thinking for sm to not be a part of this. I know very little about nct but this is just crazy
@@naldo3008 I don't really agree with this because if he is actually innocent, yall will bring this up and keep a disgusting rumor alive. We need more time for more info to come out before making such an accusation.
But the possibility of him being innocent could happen
@@JuanRodriguez-mt2qu to be fair yeah we need more time
@@JuanRodriguez-mt2qu this wasnt an accusation, this was him being charged with criminal charges.
I can only pray for the victims safety. The way i'm so disgusted that this has been going on since 2018, where the victim at that time is still a minor and got recorded without consent was crazy. Beware of the least to be suspected people everyone.
Edit: unfortunately, i got the wrong information for this one, and bringing wrong information can influence the target life for the worse. I still want to pray for the victims safety. I apologize for typing in this comment.
Hey where did you get that information? The crime wasn’t disclosed from what I know and the police stated that it happened and the complaint was filed in June of this year.
Please, don’t spread misinformation about the case and don’t spread rumors, that is disrespectful even to the victim.
Let’s just stick to the official statements issued by the police and the agency, and all confirmed information.
@yeol174 the victim, Agnes, actually has been commenting ( including the victims mother also knew what happened ) all over his social medias.
The police specifically stated that his crimes are NOT against a minor. Even if she is an adult now, If she was a minor when he committed these acts, it would be considered SA of a minor which it is not...
@@absolutelynotellen The police statement said "there was NO MINOR involved"..
As @yeol174 already said, (paraphrasing): spreading misinformation or rumors are disrespectful even to the victim..
Social media is NOT a trust worthy place to take info from..
@@absolutelynotellenwhat evidence. Anyone can comment anything on social media
How many times do kpop stars have to be exposed for us we learn that we shouldn’t idolize them.
Not all idols are like this. I'd even bet that it's not most of them.
@@monsterhanna6691and id bet everything in this world that it's MAJORITY of them. this is the kpop industry we're talking about and we, frankly, dont know who they are behind the screen or off camera
@@monsterhanna6691how would you know which one isn't before this news you believed taeil was not like this, before burning sun Noone believed sungri was like that
It's just like other idols mess isn't out yet taeil's mess spilled.....
@@reyphobic then quit listening to music and watching films altogether bc anyone can be a bad person behind the scene and you would never know exactly who
@@lovelymill yeah, exactly. thats why im saying quit trusting everyone with your life. listening/watching the content ≠ trusting them more than yourself.
I’m curious about the actual facts of the case, so I hope some more actual info will be released soon. Social media went into overdrive churning out outlandish rumors when the news broke and it’s so sad (for the victim primarily) how that always happens because it can really undermine the case. I just hope the victim will be okay and get justice.
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You said so, well
It's actually crazy that they can get out of jail if you have connections, power and money even if they did SA but they will get 4years and hate thrown at them for just smoking weed
South Korea is messed up
This week is too exhausting fr too many thing happened 😢
I will NEVER understand what goes on in the mind of someone who defends people like this. Not even if there isn’t enough evidence and they’re delulu and want to believe their idol is innocent (that’s also shitty) but when there is HELLA proof (like burning sun) how do you defend that? What’s going on in your mind???? That they’ll change? Or that they’ll love you for dying for them??? I hope the victim doesn’t get their identity leaked if they don’t want to go public. Honestly im so dissatisfied and disappointed with how sexual crimes are dealt with all over the world but especially in Korea, I hope he gets a serious punishment
That’s a disgrace to see this guy succeed in 2018 if he did do it
It wasn't in my 2024 bingo card
i hope this will serve as a wake-up call and a reminder to some stans who are really devoting a lot of their time, energy and money to idols. remember that we don’t know these people and probably never will unless things like this come out. to think how many more idols could also be like this but just haven’t been caught yet… stop idolising people so much!!
Yeah, THAT'S the problem. 🙄
With what happened to Lucas, I'm not sure if I want to believe this... but with how easily they let him go, and still kept Lucas... yall, I think I believe it !
Ya, this one didn’t come out until it emerged there was a police investigation. Way too far out of left field to be a Lucas situation
FYI, I'm not claiming anything - an "I think" is not an "I know" !
Btch pls-that man (TI) is the one who was proven to commit all these crimes, yet y’all are directing the hate to the man who was clearly framed by a group of sasaengs (LC)? Keep Lucas out of your mouths-you don’t really care about the REAL VICTIMS anyways
Lucas was a womanizer but what taeil did was straight up crime
Lucas only had gaslighting allegations that too made by ssaengs... don't bring Lucas into this...he isn't even associated with that group anymore 😭
I used to be a kpop fan earlier and since I was not upto kpop news on my feed I never knew what was going on here though I didn't stan nct before but I loved their music and members and choreography and now hearing this devastating news OMG? I can't believe. And fans are protecting him? Like are you out of your mind imagine yourself in that little girl/boy's place . Still you would've defended it ? And I literally can't get theses fans who called that girl "lucky" because she got sa by a kpop idol and wished to be at hers place. Please touch some grass
things happening in korea are insane…
Everywhere really…..
its never a "mutual decision". Its always the company letting them go. This includes contract renewal statements and its almost always based on hard popularity or financial numbers.
I feel so bad for the victim…. Taeil deserves to rot in jail.
He's still not proven guilty don't judge yet If he's does turn out inocent THEN You owe him a APPOLOGY
PERIOD 💯🧑🦯
@@NCTZEN4LIFE idgaf bcs he’s already been criminally charged and kicked out. Knowing that he and sm had a discussion regarding his departure and proceeded with it should tell you everything. Not only that but ALL nct members have unfollowed him on ALL socials. The victim suffered for 6 years…., even back in June she was commenting under his posts saying he doesn’t deserve to be an idol, and just recently, she has stated that she will press charges against him. If SM truly believed he was innocent, they would have put him on hiatus just like Lucas, but no, he was kicked out instantly, which means there is plenty evidence to back up what he did. SM never kicks out idols let alone disbands them, taking action even BEFORE the scandal got out shocked everyone as SM never acts this quick, clearly they had evidence against his doings.
@@NCTZEN4LIFEwhy are you defending him, SM LITERALLY KICKED HIM OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY FIND OUT which is not what SM usually does and all the members unfollowed him so THIS SHOWS THAT HE DID SOMETHING BAD. don’t try to defend him he is literally a BAD PERSON FOR DOING THAT
@@chwuahyunjnn SM USED TO MISTREAT TAEIL AS FOR LUCAS SM LOVES HIM 💯🤷
it’s like just because he is an idol of such a famous group, (the least popular member anyway), he feels he can get away with such evil actions. Shame on that man.
Dang this is crazy. It's surely gonna affect the other guys in the group 😢
the moment i saw the thumbnail, i knew it was about taeil 💀😭
I always found him weird. Like, how are you the oldest in the group but doesn't know how to communicate. I know everyone has a certain image in kpop but, it felt like he was keeping that monster on a tight leash.
wow 😮
True, seems like he was hiding behind being an introvert
IF, and that’s a huge IF he was involved, I hope he gets punished. Unlike it seems most NCTzens, I’m old enough to remember all too well the price paid for innocent celebrities in Korean culture who were blamed too soon. I’m reserving judgement until we actually know anything more than “he’s been implicated”.
Sexual assault is serious, but innocent till proven guilty
He IS guilty. Why do you think he was kicked out of the group?
@@monsterhanna6691 Lucas was kicked out of NCT and look what happened. Soojin was kicked out of GIDLE and looked what happened. There are others. All I’m saying is to hold judgement until all the facts come out.
@@inquisitvem6723exactly! Being accused of something does not mean you’re automatically guilty!
The nct members themselves unfollowed him, thats wild
my bestie is an NCTzen who stanned them since SR15B,yesterday she said “that son of bish must go to jail “.
Thank you for your clarification. I was consumed by devastation and frustration, with the thought of having spent years unknowingly supporting a child molester. As someone who refuses to justify or excuse such heinous behavior, even in cases of severe psychological issues, the irony of my situation was suffocating. The guilt I've carried over the past 24 hours has been a painful reckoning with my own guilt and values. But it's now bearable knowing that innocent children weren't involved... Not that I take adult SA lightly, it is unforgivable but the thought of me hanging a Child Molester's poster in my room makes the women in me sick to the core.. Like I won't even wanna forgive myself
it mustve been hard, i know how guilt can just overcome you, become a part of u that u fear might not go away, and can be extremely hard.
Idk NCT but there was no way you could’ve known. All idols fake their personalities.
this case is one of few that we know about. probably a lot more idols do these kinds of things behind closed doors. cant wait to see whats next
True
This is why you shouldn't idolize celebrities, period! You don't know who they are in real life. People make mistakes all the time. I don't care how popular they are, wrong is still wrong and there is no excuse for that.
Exactly
Real
Wait for police report...so much exaggeration and lies in the media often than not. If true just sad for the victim and offender as he ruined two lives...
Side note, I LOVE your ballerina shirt! So cute!❤
Weird how the media covered up SA but exaggerated Suga's DUI with lies. It feels like media used Suga to cover up actual crimes. Korean law and media are weird.
ITSSSSS JAEIL TIMEEEEE BAM BAM BAM BAM BAMMM
That's why as a kpop fan, I always think of these idols as just celebrities rather than some deities, unlike some koreaboo wannabes who can never accept that these idols are also just humans who can be wrong, that's crazy to think that how still people would come to justify just because he is their favorite on screen and they don't know him personally
While I'm not saying the guy is innocent since I know nothing about him or the situation. I do know that sm is a joke, and that they will always choose to protect themselves over their artists. They've done it before. Literally let a bully rumor destroy t-ara. I don't trust their judgement. They would rather let talent go then get their hands dirty in any capacity.
I'm not going to say anything until I know the whole story because I don't want to be mad and then find out it's not true. I'm hoping it's not true.
I'm a czennie, he's my third bias but after learning all of these crimes he did I don't even wanna say or hear his name, I don't wanna see his face. It hurts so much and still could not digest everything. For such a small man, the oldest of them all, one of the most quiet and matured member or person we knew.
Beneath that facade, he's a terrible terrible person. I feel sorry to the members who looked up to him, who trusted him as one of the pillar of the group, as a friend, as a family. I feel sorry to his victims, my sympathy goes to them and only to them.
I don't even know how to hold this emotions I'm feeling, to be a czennie through and through, I wanna say I'm betrayed but you know 'can't really say that. At the end of the day we don't know them at all, this apply to all idols, actors, celebrities.
It's really a bad news. This is what I feel about the idols.......everything is not as it seems!
Can you keep us updated on this case?
SM really owns the trashy journalists. They covered this up really well that no one knew about it. What happens to innocent until proven guilty? The public always find everyone guilty as soon as an allegation announced.
if sm went out their way to kick him off nct and sm, then it's that serious.
Innocent until proven guilty is something that only apply when it come to the law, we citizens of the word have the right to make our own decisions of the situation regardless of the law.
@@MinieAnne You guys are insane pickmes for bashing the company for kicking out your predator oppa
@@hannaansari2921real cause im definitely an nctzen but bro, sm NEVER kicks out their idols this fast, so there’s no way that this ain’t serious. Like they normally would go on hiatus first to investigate, but SM was quick with it. and the fact that all the members unfollowed him so quickly too, like this is serious bro and the people defending him need to be fr
@@hyujinsmissinghairthe reason SM was quick is because this investigation has been going on since june. So that's about 3 months of this being a ongoing thing. But the reporters kept quite until SM broke it yesterday. So basically it looks like SM kicked him out as soon as the police contacted him but the thing is they just kept quite since june so now it looks like they kicked him out right away
You're so pretty ❤ that's all I wanted to say. Taeil's bombshell news was crazy. Wtf is going on in South Korea these days? And I thought America was on some sh*t
You always look so beautiful your makeup is amazing
Korean media bullied Suga for DUI without harming anyone and Jennie for vaping indoors while this case was completely silent,it's just international fans who were loud.
That last sentence was stupid
@@kkurasan_official no article on naver, it's the google of south korea, reporters on social media are quiet, and knetz giving excuses that because it's not a popular group so reporters just don't care
girrlll you are so prettyyy
FFS!
AHHHHHHHH!
Why does this always happen.
Companies please screen idols as they get older to make sure they aren’t getting too pushy or carried away.
If the rumours aren’t completely factual then I hope more work will be done to make sure everyone gets the correct treatment and the real victims get justice.
I love watching and listening to you, btw you have beautiful posture ❤
I knew exactly who this was about just from the title
The police report said there is no specified crime so that made me 10 time more confused than I already was
Omg your fit is so cute 💗
Holy crap. While im not gonna pass judgement until all the facts come out but holy crap? I hope this is just an extremely sick rumor and no people were actually victims.
Actually we should not just spit out things in flow of emotions ...so lets just wait if he guilty or etc.. cuz we are nothing to say something to him without the statement so should wait ....literally world is going too far it is not only in korea but other countries too damnn
That news is sad. But on another note your top is super cute 🥰
I was abt to go to bed WTFFF
Tf i ended up imagining one of the members make this song called “JAEIL TIME” and the genre is retro😭
Is it true that 200 K pop are also involved in this case ? Please upload a detailed one ! ❤
I'm very scared on this one either. If anybody on the list were apart of the kpop boygroups i stanned. I'm quitting kpop atp. 🙃
@@absolutelynotellen same here !
At the same time why do I feel like the blame goes on those fans who never let these K pop idols breathe peacefully? If they talk with a girl there goes a scandal, if they look at someone there goes another scandal! Idk I'm in a dilemma!
Its not 200 idols it is 200 famous peoples including 10-20 idols
@@Alena._ if it's so , I'm relieved!!
Can u plz update after investigation 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😭😭😭😭it doesn't make sense 😭😭
I don't follow NCT but my understanding of the case is as follows
The lady in question alleges that the young man watched her through her phone in compromising situations undressing, showering etc? This is the reason fans are not quick to condemn him.
There was no alleged s*xual contact between the two, mainly voyeurism on his part.
I don't know for a fact that this is correct, but since he's not in jail and was allowed to leave the police station after questioning it rings true to me
It’s Jaeil time now
Off topic.. lov your shirt! Slay…
Honestly I'm surprised by how quick the action is. When Lucas was faced with accusations (I forgot the deets) he took a hiatus first before leaving NCT.
he only left NCT not sm. he and lucas are in the same boat rn. also, Taeil got *charged* not simply accused. this is important to know.
But lucas isn't unfollowed by his members. Only taeil got unfollowed. So how are they in same boat?
this shade of pink is fab on you
I love your top where did u get it 😭😭😭
Love your top 💗
Don't jump to conclusions, I don't know anything about this, but I do remember Lee Seon Kyoon and EVERYBODY condemned him until after his death when they looked a little bit closer at his accuser. I'm just saying reserve your judgement until the police and courts are done.
SUGA last week…
Stfu apologist, ya'll are always trying to come up with excuses to defend predators, pretty sure you support kris wu, Hyuna's predator fiance and seungri too
Understood. I remember all the hate that Roy Kim got because he had a minor connection to chat with Burning Sun but it turned out to be nothing, yet his career kind of tanked since then.
The amount of misinformation here is...
Smh. Damn.
Average K-pop fan: Kpop idols are angels
Meanwhile, K-pop idols: It's jaeil time!!
One thing we have to agree, these damn kpop companies give some EXCELLENT PRs to their idols. The more popular they become, the more powerful their PR becomes.
Heyyy it is really shocking to hear this news .
If you get any information in the future can you also explain the nth room scandal
And watch Korea give this man a 3 year sentence 🙂↕️
Unrelated but your top is too cute
Amazing information
Is he getting investigated regarding nth room?
could be a person who was a minor at the time of the event and and adult on report to police
I actually also thought about this
taeilsinjaeil!
13s AGO AND FIRST?!? OMGGGG
I am not getting a good feeling about this. What I mean is that the victim, who everyone is hailing as a hero, may not be as innocent as all that she is portrayed in the media to be. This could very well be a set up on her part to blackmail Taeil into doing things and then hit SM entertainment with a huge lawsuit in order to receive millions of $$. Why was this sat on for 6 years? I find it hard to believe that she wasn’t aware of activity on her phone for that entire time. Of course, I might be completely wrong and I admit that, but before we throw stones at Taeil, we must find out all the facts. Above all, each of us has to acknowledge that we are all sinners in need of God’s mercy and are not above falling into sin. We need the grace of God ALL THE TIME. I pray for the victim AND Taeil and their families.
Its a shame that most fangirls of nct, kpop bg stans (especially sm bg stans) will defend him........ and ofcourse korean males will defend him as well
delusional girls who just don’t wanna feel bad about their bias streak
Girl try taking a pic of all the entertainment building posting them, who knows many more might get exposed
I'm scared. I'm seriously scared. I am not a big fan of nct like Ik a few songs but can't declare myself a fan. I am an army and yes know few other kpop songs.
But after this came and seeing the fans of nct getting utterly shocked scares me. I heard he was considered the cutest, funniest one among others. And now this????
Do we really know our idols.
I'm scared I'm seriously scared. I'm not arguing Ik bts personally but every kpop fans out there do u feel me??
I mean bts personally is just not a boyband to me they are literally everything to me. During my hardest time it was always themmm
And the only men I trust
But really???
Do we know our idols???
It might be really HEARTBREAKING FOR ALL the nct fans.
Honey you don't know your idols, you need to open your eyes. Seeing them on videos doesn't equal to knowing them and even if you were friends with them you still wouldn't know them completely, people always hide stuff specially when they know it's something bad
Burning Sun all over again ya'll
This definitely wasn’t on my 2024 bingo card, man this year is such a weird and fucked up year😢 anyways thought u were talking about Bts Jimin bc the thumbnail looked like him idk 😂
Is his career really over when they didn't even cancel his contract?
That's because of legal binding
@@Lolori88 Is it really though? SM has precedent.
@@PetitsPas_ But then why would they directly kick him out ? Why not just put him on hiatus just like the others ? His reputation is de@d anyways I don't think that SM wants to do anything with him anymore
@@Lolori88I don’t have answers to those questions but I don’t also know what they are thinking. However, I won’t be shocked if they find a way around it. They have done it before.
A quick trip to the military or a moderately long hiatus followed by a pity-party and for them he will be good to go. Them kicking him out and deleting stuff before the news start making round just show that their PR is working overtime.
This has been going on for a month. One article was written and then taken down. Despite, whatever internet is singing we don’t know who knew or who didn’t. There is NO WAY that NO ONE didn’t know that he was under investigation. NO WAY. With the vulture that fill the rank of k-media ? 💀
@@PetitsPas_ I think that even if SM holded on to him people will still demand his departure from the company since he lost the trust of his fans and of korean people. And I totally agree with you last statement, there is no way that the investigation has been going on for almost a month and SM hearing about it just 2 weeks ago, it's SA that we are talking about after all.
Hey! i share the same view as you! We are neighbours!!
I'm not a fan so I can be able to be more objective here but is there any proven proofs that he did SA or is it just rumours without evidence ?
What does sa'd mean?
Sexual assault
Ah, SA. I thought assay.
Can anyone explain me what exactly happened and what is SA.. i m completely unware and trust comments more than any video..
sexual assault/abuse he is under investigation for that
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Off topic may I know where your top is from ? ❤
Are there rules anywhere against saying the words " sexual assault"?. It seems the words " innocent until proven guilty" no longer have meaning. Or is that just the Korean way? And before anyone gets all butt hurt I'm not defending anyone just asking questions.
Yes there are, social media is sensitive and if you say the words they would take down your video and maybe even your account. And what innocent until proven guilty you mean? He IS guilty, they've been investigating him since june and he is also cooperating with the police, he basically surrendered to the police himself
@@NHY6CK I stand corrected.
Hi pretty girl
What is SA?? and What is teally happening???
Can someone tell me please bcz i don't know what's happening??,
SA is sexual assault.
SA stands for sexual assault/harassment. It can include inappropriate acts such as touching or much worse. Taeil is being accused of doing these kinds of acts to two children, which is very disgusting of him.
what happened to your eyebrows...
What is SA?
Sexu*al as*ault
Sexual Assault? Probably. I'm not sure.
Sexual Assault
Sexual Assault
He needs prison!!!.
So excuses!!
What is SA? I don’t understand the code.
Sexual Assault
@@everythingisillusion4200 thanks
South America, South Asia, Super Asians
You're welcome 🙂
Sexual Assault
RUclipsrs "censor" those words bc youtube is sensitive to literally everything
@@dfernandez3482 🤣🤣