Kawasaki GPZ900R vs Honda V65 Magna

VF1100C magna vs GPZ 900 R

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I think I might be able to make a sandwich in between shifts on the Kawasaki.

[@johnsnyder1751]

Had a 1983 v65 magna. Back in 84. Nothing would touch it

[@paullee6761]

apparently, this is the proof showing it ain't the machine, it's the operator.

[@GaryntaraBurbank]

Paul Lee yes you are totally correct I have a 1988 Suzuki gsx600f katana and every one I ride with have a 1999 Suzuki gsxr750 a 2009 Honda cbr600rr 2008 Yamaha r6 2009 Kawasaki zx14r 2007 Suzuki gsxr1000 and I have walked off on the 1999 Suzuki gsxr750 2009 Honda cbr600rr and Yamaha r6 and they say a Suzuki gsx600f katana can't keep up lol the 1988 Suzuki gsx600f katana is the fastest sports bike Suzuki had in 1988 and they fit in good with newer sports bikes

[@team_suv7778]

Right I had an 89 gpz900 for a year or so and it spanked all over my buddies 94 cbr 600 and another buddies 2008 r6

[@sabre6986]

Actually I owned a V 65 Sabre for 98,000 miles and sold it in good shape and I can confirm If I didn't want you near me you were not near me ;)

[@majorpwner241]

Nah, it was the Magna, lol. Those are beasts.

[@Shawps]

Paul Lee Yep😂

[@propdoctor21564]

Back in the late 80s I owned a 1986 V65 Magna and even at this date of 2018 it is still my favorite bike I've ever owned and also one of the fastest for drag racing... just goes to show you can be fast and still be comfortable

[@nicholasthomas4382]

I had an 84 V65, I ran that bike hard and learned it like the back of my hand. I never lost a race, not to a Vmax, or a literbike, or a Porsche, or a Vrod. Run well, thats one of the fastest bikes off the line you can find.

[@togibok18]

Truth! My Brother's friend has the smaller v45 and sport cars would pull up and ask what the blue HELL is that motor under that bike. I wish I could get my hands on a v65. The muscle cruisers are the bikes I love.

[@seangostynski945]

oh man! I hope you've upped your shift game since this vid! cool bikes!

[@Nunya_Beezwax]

You are SOOOOOO not a drag racer..😂😂😂😂

[@MegaGavone]

Keep a hand full of throttle on a Magna when you shift. It's very rewarding

[@chaserr3777]

Considering all things : look , rideability , & just plain ferocity that Magna is a beast !

[@xxgrubyxx]

maybe we should try the same with suzuki? gsxr 1100 vs magna this year?

[@timconrad63]

the ridder in that video why do you use a clutch when up shifting ?

[@spareparts7630]

I have an 84 V65 and have never been beaten out of the hole. With the shaft drive you can launch at 3500, feather the clutch a little, and lay into the throttle and still keep the front wheel down. Liter bikes will reel me in after about a block and a half but they have to work for it. The V4 is torquey and the shaft drive makes them very easy to launch. Shift at 10K. The engine pulls harder in the mid-range than gutting it for every last RPM on the top side.

[@dylanmorrison8543]

you're a skilled rider, but you could be shifting much quicker, you seem to leave a split second between shifts for some reason. if you do that you could easily win

[@benyos01]

Need more videos like that! 👍👍👍

[@kwb377]

I can't tell if your pulling the front wheel or you have excessive fork dive at each shift.

[@erikmschwartz]

wow. You need to learn clutch control. It is much better to normal shift a bike rather than sloppily speed shift at the wrong rpm. The other dude had the shifting great, which is why HE won a majority of the races.

[@thepoultrypeople]

you should have bought a Magna Bro, that way you would also look cool :)

[@gjens1]

I have an 85 v65 mag w the v45 final drive. Faster in the 1/4 and top end than stock. They won't get to redline in 6th stock. Not enough power. I put 4 into 1 exhaust and oil mod and Jetted . It scoots but they still only have about 109 brake hp. For a 33 year old bike it does ok. :-)

[@aerialwheel3719]

it's awesome that you guys are out there running those bikes like that. win or lose, thanks!!! little tip: have the revs around 4k when you launch (feather the clutch and/or throttle). go slightly past redline before you shift. shift quickly.

[@Adikxx]

Thanks bud

[@wvXvxvXvw]

Launching a V65 at 4k is a death sentence. You are almost guaranteed to stick the tire and flip over backwards. I try to launch my stock 83 at about 5k, give or take, to get some wheel spin. Then when you hit 2nd hard the front end will lift at about 5500rpm and hold it up until about 9k. On my drag bike(another 83 V65) I try to launch at about 2500. I have my nitrous controller set to feather in at about 3k at 20% and have it hitting 100% at 5k. It sticks the tire to start, gives me some spin between 3k and 5k and is stuck after that. A tire sticking on a bike like a V65 will end up in a wreck most of the time.

[@ADN1996]

this is the video they show at motorcycle classes on how not to shift

[@edikaramuratful]

So this magna is 1100cc?

[@rongiambrone7538]

The man driving the magna don't know how to race. You don't let off the throttle at all, I had a 1987 v45 up until last year I never lost a race, even with bikes that had 1500 cc. Also 1988 my v45 is 698cc, let a friend race my bike against my bosses 750cc. The 750c.f. Won 4 times in a row. Then I raped my own and won 5 times in a row and I believe the rider makes a difference, I've been riding 45 years. Change rider's

[@benyos01]

You guys should do roll on races in all gear.

[@terrykokas2855]

the dude is a great rider brother. relax. i have an 83 v45 sabre

[@g.c8227]

Lol looks like a lot of fun. I have the 83 Magna and ya really need to know how to get off the line with these machines or the front end will come out from under ya. Btw don't use the clutch after 2nd gear.

[@basicwrench4510]

G. C I own an 83 65 too.. everybody telling him to get off the line harder.. lol better be careful.. the v65 as you know writes a pretty big check that most riders can't cash.. They are bad to the bone.. (83- maroon, 14k miles, showroom condition)

[@GaryntaraBurbank]

G. C yeah but you have to be a dam good driver to be able to shift at higher rpms called speed shifting not something that he needs to be doing he ain't been riding long from the looks lol

[@GaryntaraBurbank]

Basic Wrench hell yeah that is the truth just like with my 1988 Suzuki gsx600f katana it the best bike out in 1988 a lot of people wouldn't be able to ride that 1983 Honda magna 750 the way it's made to be or a 1976 Honda cb750 four after 76 Honda made the 750 four with a little less power proven fact

[@theshacall]

all you need to do on the GZP 900 is to put it on first gear, change on neutral for a spit second,then jump on 2nd gear. like if you didn't put it proper into the 2nd gear then did it right. The GPZ 900 beats many of the modern 600 and 900s sport bikes at start, just by doing the above! :)

[@davidbrennan5]

I had a v65 and my buddy had a gpz900. whoever got the holeshot would win, they were close in power. The kawi made power different, it was a better bike for shorter rides and it was a lot more stable at high speeds. It had a lower center of gravity and handled better. The Honda handled good and was more comfortable on long rides, it had a wider powerband. The bike was downright scary past anything over 130mph on the speedo. The front would start getting too light....

[@Daryll_Flaro]

fuck yeah do more of these

[@Bricklinsv1970]

The magna should be able to beat that Kawasaki you have to let the rpm get into the red. The magna motor can handle much higher rpm than the gauge indicates. It doesn't start coming on until 7000 rpm

[@digitalswiat]

10500 perfect shift point

[@digitalswiat]

plus

[@frito.bandito8411]

what handlebar setup is on the gpz?

[@Adikxx]

Handlebar from Rizoma

[@rexdrabble4988]

Slight decel on throttle 25% clutch

[@brentsmith5647]

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[@maxisbored]

ROFL, your buddy fucked you up! I'm surprised we couldn't hear your "WHAT THE FUCK" from that road cam, haha. :D
Had a good laugh, great video. Thanks! :)

[@tedd7545]

the start and gear changes are killing u.

[@jasonmccormick2037]

That
v65 magna is a beast hands down eat that kaw with even riders

[@haroldwitham2038]

i had one ! they re fast as hell i know !!!!!!!!! i loved mine!!!!!!!!

[@chuckgreygoodman4478]

my bro had a v65 awesome bike

[@digitalswiat]

speed wobble between 90 and 130 mph very scary

[@jacobfisher7793]

Ya man you are not giving that 9 enough gas on take off and shifting slower than molasses

[@gixxerboy555]

looks like the GPz900 turns on 3cilinders..?!

[@marcusbrown4794]

You were not speed shifting.

[@kyleconine5258]

great camera work though......

[@chaserr3777]

According to Guinness World Records :
the V65 Magna appeared from 1986 to 1989 in the Guinness Book of World Records as the fastest production motorcycle with a "design speed" of 278 to 283 km/h (173 to 176 mph).

[@dewwed1965]

V4 Power baby!

[@wlc1980]

My black 1985 V65 Magna is a rocket, scary fast! I love riding it!

[@billyjack8119]

I think you could have left on 2 and would have made it more fun.

[@gixxerboy555]

They both have the same HP

[@jameschaves3936]

Dont use the clutch next time when shifting its slowing you down

[@TheTojocat]

you cant upshit a 80's bike at high rpm without using the clutch

[@hectormaldonadoarellano9697]

You need more trainning man...

[@michaelcaplinger5115]

V65s dont fuck around. 1100 cc v4

[@colinjrob]

Oh this is too painful to watch... I think one needs to watch someone or go on the back with someone who has experience on how to use the power and the clutch of a great machine like this. The bike should be almost reaching for the sky as you feed in the revs and clutch from take off! Still looks like they had fun anyway :)

[@allanmcelroy9840]

2nd race guy jumped early. Never seen rider swap bikes before....afraid to break and old bike?

[@dosstheboss100]

your speed shift needs more practice

[@wvXvxvXvw]

He also beat you on the slowest V65 Magna. If that was an 83 V65 it would not have mattered who would have been on it. That Magna appears to be an 86 looking at the wheels and cluster, by far the slowest V65 built.

[@Adikxx]

Yeah it's the 1985 model. I did hear that 1983 model offered best performance. Do you know what were the differences between 1983 and later models?

[@wvXvxvXvw]

@@Adikxx The only documented difference between the two are the carburetors. That is why 83 carbs are worth about twice as much as 85 carbs. I happen to own an 83 V65 with less than 5k miles, all original. I measured the cams and compared them to an 85 V65 that I bought for parts. The 83 cams are more aggressive with a considerable amount of duration more and a little more lift. My other V65 is my drag bike and the cams have been reground on that one. I can not use that bike to verify one way or the other which cams are normal. I do know that an 83 V65 will handily outrun an 85, though I do not know if it is the carbs, cams or some other unknown factor that causes it. That said, even my 83 V45 is faster than later model V45 and V42 bikes. I can only assume that Honda revised the cam profiles to combat the cam failure issues that plagued their V4 engines in the early 80s.

[@Adikxx]

@@wvXvxvXvw Yeah i bet the cams in later models were changed due to cam failure reports. I saw a fully refurbed 83 carbs on Ebay some time ago with a ridiculous price tag. That explains why the price was so high. Good info, i didn't know that.

[@jordanh.819]

I have the chance to get an 83 for 700 bucks

[@marcusblickerify]

try speed shifting next time. you backed way off the throttle in between shifts. not good for the clutch but for a race, kill that shit! lol

[@joebarrow7313]

squid central

[@joeblow7868]

1. Your racing against a power cruiser, not a sport bike. Like a Corvette racing a Cadillac...whatever, dude...

[@spareparts7630]

That cruiser can bust a sport bike's ass. I have both. Just sayin.

[@bloolouboyle]

had 3 v65s 1 1983--2-1984s---83-fastest--never lost a race---obviously rider

[@weedeaterjoe]

Because your not speed shifting bro!! Don't let off the throttle between each gear!! Simple!

[@digitalswiat]

slip that clutch 14000 rpm

[@patrickdecambra8904]

you should have started the race in second gear

[@jimh712]

I don't know what's wrong with the v65
I always had to watch 1-2 shift so she wouldn't come over backwards with me over the handle bars..
2-3 shift she came up
3-4 shift she came up
4-5 shift she still lift it
5-6 she couldn't lift it...
Shifting at 10,500
One night a Suzuki 1000 beat off the line..
Trying to catch the suzi
The 65 nosed over at 12,000 (needed bigger springs)...

[@timconrad63]

the V65 Saber is faster than the Magna bigger carbs

[@cjsteele9594]

Slightly more HP too.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

to think the Harley boys dont even know a Magna exists... sleeping under their HDs bed at night.

[@stickitupyourasteric]

Gpz has a bad memory...how can you do it right on the second run and not have a clue after that.....

[@bootslangley4875]

he cheated the Starts 1 & 2. He said it would be 3-2-1 go and he went 3-2-go. Caught the other guy off guard. Otherwise, this rider (NOT driver) needs to go to the drag strip and practice actual competition level fast starts. Neither guys were at a competition level, but the guy who won the majority of races was a better rider and had his shifting down pat. The V65 would be even more brilliant with a Superbike style handlebar rather than that comfortable sweep back handlebar that doesn't lend itself to a forward crouch.
cheers
Boots Langley
La Mesa, ca

[@577buttfan]

Shifted too slow bro.

[@calvincooley1074]

Ruined that Kaw by hacking the rear end off! Looks like crap.

[@ericcoppola]

Dude. Don't leave early and stay in ur lane... it's ok to lose... lol...

[@marcalampi5036]

We'll just call it pilot error

[@95Sn95]

V65 musta had a random temporary malfunction a few times like maby lost a couple cyclinders for a bit, when it lost or set a governor at half throttle or was dragging a anchor!! OH YEAH BABY! Let some of those Japanese bald eagles scream!! HONDER all way brother!! Lol!

[@ronniec8038]

That does not look like a 1983 Magna. The 83 is the only true "fast" Magna. Good stuff though. Thanks for sharing. Ride safe.

[@Adikxx]

Magna would easily win every race there.I missed the gear in 3 races hence lost a few times.We rode together quite a lot and we both concluded that Magna is more powerful virtually in every rev range.
Just for your info bud i ride the Magna maybe twice a year(500miles if lucky),it's my holiday bike cause i live abroad and only have acces to it when i'm back there for a week o so...therefore no wonder that don't have a good feel of the bike.
For everyday rides where i live in the UK i have a sports bike witch is a totally different ball game.Clutch,gear box,riding position literally different world my friend.If you rode for instance R1 every day and suddenly jumped on 30 yo cruiser that you don't have a feel for would you be winning races with someone who rides it everyday? Can you honestly say you would? Cause i don't think so ;) Unless you have an amazing talent then fair play to you.
But ur right in saying that Magna is a rocket,it definitely is.Wonderful machine.

[@Adikxx]

it's 1984 model bud.

[@ronniec8038]

Regardless it looks like you two were having fun.Thanks for posting the video. Ride safe.

[@Adikxx]

+lilevil 1955 thanks bud,appreciate comments
all the best.

[@sinsilius]

You sure anything apart visual changer on newer V65 models?

[@leeschultzracing522]

Wow never go Drag racing

[@Ticholasnesla]

magna is fast 4 a old chopper

[@grabir01]

He is speed shifting. You r not.

[@bowches]

haha cool race

[@bowches]

its funny races going on here...ahah...you need more practice lol...its an entertaining video though

[@markmaynard8105]

Put a decent rider on the 900 and it will win every time.

[@TruthNTime]

Yup, dude doesn't know how to shift plus he's launching off at idle!

[@reyesrr12]

Lol, I like this guy

[@kyleconine5258]

wen I had my gpz750.....I'd rev up to 11 grand...and smoke it out of there

[@netrioter]

YOU....HAVE...TO ...LEAN..FORWARD...TO ...KEEP...YOUR...FRONT....END...DOWN. .The Magna is way more powerful than a shitty Ninja GPZ 900 because it has more torque..and even though it's heavier..it destroyed you. A Honda VFR 1100 Interceptor is essentially a crotch rocket Magna. The Magna can waste that. The Magna was the first bike to break 11 seconds in a quarter mile. I know damn good and well when you got on the Magna you were like OMG.

[@Youngblackamericansfortrump.]

Dude straight cheated

[@dominickjohnston5881]

Bro learn how to shift properly

[@ADN1996]

maybe you shouldnt make a video racing a magna the first time you ride a motorcycle.

[@grabir01]

Funny Stuff.. But stop with the cussing!! Gee!!

[@ryderDoO]

That GPZ looks cool

[@reynaldorodriguez2513]

Jajajajajaja jajajajajaja es el piloto jajajajajaja jajajajajaja

[@matteoguttilla9845]

Yep Boyz! Drag race, straight gears, flooded gas! I feel sorry for the bike looking this video man 😂what a waste

[@matthew_harris]

Nothing like drag racing into oncoming traffic

[@drewcecato221]

Please stop yanking the throttle like that every shift Jesus Christ

[@JohnAttwoodbuzz_light_year]

Gpz 900r is 10.9 1/4 mile. Magna is not. Magna cannot get 150 plus...Gpz can. So the only place Magna shine is mid range. You miss a shift on that magna and your engine is gone... Gpz 900 is consistently considered in top 25 bikes ever made.. never seen a magna in there...they dont handle or brake either...

[@davidbrennan5]

according to cycle magazine (march 1983) a stock magna with a pro rider will run a 10.84 @ 124.82 MPH in the quarter.

[@ITIPRGP]

poor gear box

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

ITIPRGP *poor rider. the rider sucks

[@kyleconine5258]

got/GPZ

[@waimeaguyz9074]

need a wheelie bar for the Kawi

[@kylestewart8354]

PEEWEE! he is not, lol

[@mabast007]

06: 13 hahahah...

[@FirstLightAdv]

That's how you ride these old bikes!

[@menom7]

Lol. Dude,You seriously need to learn clutch/throttle control on quick-shifting while drag-racing!!! Once again,it's NOT the bike that wins,but the person at the grips,that wins!!! ~Peace~

[@giorgosgrigoriadis5587]

honda magna is faster from kawasakigpz900 is fake race,, Honda magna have max speed 262.and you know you're changing gears honda magna. hahah nice fake race MAgna ise very faster from you

No hope to Kawasaki rider

[@trafoarga8478]

Joki ne oon..rpm jatuh

[@foamer5490]

Lol get good dude.

[@jdcreations9790]

Just because you can balance a bike doesn't mean you can race a bike, you are a horrible racer.

[@tomshade8329]

definitely don't know how to shift the 900, don't think either of you know how to ride, nor stay in the powerband. I agree with the I could beat you on a minibike.. learn how to speedshift...

[@Adikxx]

We got a tutorial and started learning now.

[@limoservice6645]

you are revving the v65 way too high. 4k is optimal torque. youre going to 9k every gear.

[@erikmschwartz]

wow. You need to learn clutch control. It is much better to normal shift a bike rather than sloppily speed shift at the wrong rpm. The other dude had the shifting great, which is why HE won a majority of the races.