Stainless manifold, 300cel cats, tune (and camshaft if you want) you can have 240bhp like this car or 260bhp with M50 intake manifold conversion. But after all that crazy money (for eastern europe) it's not even a 300bhp car and neither is this M3 :( Really fucking sucks.
@ Worse, Balkan's where we import some of Germany's laws but have no technical facilities for exemptions so they remain illegal (e.g. how G-Power can legalize Supercharged E46 in Germany but we can't)
car fanatic we never would’ve gotten an e36 M3 in the US if it wasn’t for the S50/S52. If we never got the e36, we probably never would have gotten the e46, e9x, etc
I have a 2004 mustang cobra w/ well over 400whp, and a 2017 Fiesta ST with 200whp. I'm selling the cobra because the fiesta is just so much more fun to drive. Bonus, I don't hit jail time speeds in no time at all while alerting all cops within a mile radius that I'm letting her rip.
Cameron Welz Tom merged onto the highway at speed whilst ensuring the lane he intended to enter was clear for quite some distance back. Not sure why being a car enthusiast is inherently unsafe
I absolutely love my 99 M3 coupe. I have the normal mods, M50 intake manifold, Z3 steering rack, x brace, refreshed suspension. It is an absolute delight to drive. They are extremely satisfying cars to drive, you can drive it hard without getting into trouble but still feel like you are really moving quick.
There are speeding tickets and car seizure. I think that is what he means. 50k over the posted limit in Ontario equals $ 10000 fine and car seizure for a week.
@@DB0310 That's only the maximum fine. in reality, people make deals with the court and get off with a 400 dollar fine. I know that because I did that once lmao.
Yeah I often hear people saying that but sometimes I drive my sister's 75hp car and I still break speed limits even when driving super chill. Realistically no matter the power if you're floored for between 5 and 10 seconds you're most likely over most speed limits, so it's more about acceleration than speed.
Drove a friends miata the other week and gotta say it was super fun. Its his favorite car and he currently has a perfermante, gt350r, raptor and f80 m3(manual) in his garage. He has had before a crazier collection with viper acr gt3rs turbo s etc etc and still he thinks the miata is the best car hes owned. Really tells you something then with a man who can have any car, has used them all on track and stilllll a piece of shit 150hp drop top is his fav lol. I havent had that crazy of of cars bur have still had access to many of them and i agree. Light weight, manual and usable power is all you need.
@@hunterrrdrives The e36 m3 has many very heavy components that when removed drop the weight significantly. The vader style seats in that car weigh like 90 pounds each. The thick sound deadening and insulation come close to 500 pounds once you pull it all out. The stock downpipe is also really heavy with a big fat catalytic converter. Just getting some light weight seats, a titanium exhaust and removing some of the insulation under the interior will put you around 2700.
It’s because the majority of their roads are straight and wide so you can’t get the sense of speed you get from the winding narrow country lanes we have in the UK.
To be honest, USA back in days was restricted so, USA got E36 M3 with 179kW, where in same time EU got same M3 E36 with 210kW, that's why noone in EU doesn't want USA M3 E36 xD
To be fair, their E36 M3 was only marginally quicker than the 328i. The Euro spec M3, particularly the 3.2 with the 6 speed, was WAY faster. About 80hp more in fact.
You are making THE most important and relevant point with regards to driving in this video; for those who actually enjoy driving for the sake of it. It’s why I continue to love my fully thrashed FRS and defend the 86 cars. Honestly, you absolutely nailed it👍
Thanks! A couple years ago I was chasing Doctam3's Performante and Autovlogs C63S while driving The Topher's FRS on Snow tires haha..It was one of the most fun driving experiences I've ever had. ruclips.net/video/OiAhBdO7PIs/видео.html
Every car will go twice the speed limit until you get to 75mph freeway segments. But it is more fun to do u-turns at 50mph than go straight at 100mph. And the sharper you turn, the more Radar/laser cosine error is in your favour.
If you are out on country highways in the US and you are doing less than 90mph, you are going to get run over. Plenty of times I've been cruising at a solid 100mph and still getting passed left and right. Good for me though, just gives me someone to follow and take that ticket for me.
I'm always amazed by the inequalities in this world when they talk about cars like this as slow and cheap in youtube videos. Here in Eastern Europe these are very powerful and expensive. An average person would need to save up for 5 to 10 years to be able to afford a 25 year old E36 M3 in a driveable condition. But even then rarely anyone could afford to fuel these big 3 liter petrol engines with the fuel prices we have. No surprise that 70% of BMW's here have 2 liter diesel engines.
@@jonasf1275 No he is not lol. The US M3 and European M3 are completely different in many aspects. By today's standards the US spec E36 M3 is a slow car.
Everything doing 0-100kmh around and below 6sek. Is fast in europe. Verry few cars sold in europe theese days can do 0-100below 6sek. And most of them cost absurd amount of money, not to even mention the tax for those vehicles... My first car was a E39 525i (193hp) and that was quite quick compared to most modern cars
@Eat my Ooof no, it doesn't matter which engine is bigger or more powerful, it's about affordability. Euro and asia tends to charge cost more for bigger displacement engines, that's why euro and asia have 316i, 318i, 320i, 323i version and americans aren't.
I totally feel this video. I am from southern Germany and we have so many speed limits everywhere (and yes, also on the Autobahn in many places) and radars around (and just got new speeding laws and high fines), I really enjoy driving my E36 328i. I wouldn't even benefit from a more modern, more powerful car... As you said, 5 seconds on the throttle and way beyond the speed limit already. I prefer a nicely sounding n/a inline six over all those modern 2.0 turbo fartboxes with all their DCTs and horrible pops and bangs...
@@draektears2794 Well I also like a nice little burble when letting off the gas in a kind of sporty car but those overly crazy gunshot like pops are just too artificial and stupid imo
@@peterm3861 Yea its fine when engine does it naturally, like ours 2.8, which is fine. But new cars with purposely added pops and bangs are horrible and all the cars sound same - vacuum cleaner + popcorn.
The S3 8V 2.0 TFSI with stock exhaust and resonator delete actually sounds quite delightful and satisfying, I have one, 4 banger turbos can really sound great just gotta tweak your set up.
In my opinion the E36 is the best looking of all 3-Series. It has a raw, hard-edged aesthetic that BMW never used before or since. And the interior has one of the best renditions of BMW's driver oriented dashes.
Absolutely agree! E36M3 is a perfect car for having fun on real roads. As cars keep getting faster and more capable, you just end up driving them further and further away from their limits on the street.
One of the most rewarding things you can do with these engines (w/out breaking any law) is rev-matching. I miss my 325 E36 manual I had to sell 3 yrs ago when I left my country.
In period they were super quick, like...Ferrari quick. Friend of mine bought one new in the 90s and got the vanity plate “supercar” - still has the plate and uses it on his F90 M5.
I do actually love the e36 m3 sedan....I know there are a lot of sedan haters out there for e36 m3's but I love it. Gets the driver very connected to the road
@@bcastromusic put it this way if I come up on crypto alot over the summer, I have a very short list of cars I'd wanna buy and one of those again is on it
People bash on the US Spec M3 but it won Best Handling Car over $30,000 in 1997 by Car and Driver, out performing the Acura NSX-T, Corvette, Dodge Viper GTS, Ferrari F355, Porsche Boxster and the Toyota Supra Turbo.
@Snagle Channel 2 The last gen Q45/Cima/President is fun. But we can import the earlier JDM models now so that's an option. I love any Japanese DOHC V8 car. I love the UZs the most, though.
Me too! Lol I've own 2 of them and a E46 M3, now a 335i... I've been looking on eBay lately for a E36 M3... Just so much more fun to drive on track and back roads.
Keep doing these. You ask questions of the viewer; cause me to reflect...it’s not as tho there is a right answer, but you get the discussions going. It’s the sort of chat I miss in these distancing and polarized times. Hanging out, talking cars with no winners no losers..just enjoying cars and driving.
Thanks. I had a fluctuating style for a while that probably made it tough for people to latch onto. Now the channel is far more consistent so I hope to see growth.
I’m 40. My Toyota 86 is my daily in the summer and the amount of smiles it brings on backroads in the evening and weekends has paid for he car x 3. Not only that there’s a tonne of ways to customize it and cultivate it to just how you like it without breaking the bank, add Subaru / Toyota reliability and low cost upkeep and it’s made for a wonderful ownership experience.
The 5 and 6 spds e36m gearboxes essentially have identical gearing. The 6 spd is actually clunkier and not as nice to use, but has the extra gear for hwy crusing.
Appreciate this. Had 2 supra turbos and while they felt great, was never able to exploit them. Now that I'm old and less dumb, getting an e36 m3 gives me enough thrills for when I can actually go for a sporty drive.
Car sounds great & looks great. You know it’s true though, the American market has been cheated on lots of great German tech over the years. Why now e46 M3 CSL for example. Or M5 Wagen? 🤷♂️
Think they were testing around how well the m5 would sell as a wagon but it didnt do well due to the v10 having issues so it never got to the american market
Main reason why you didnt get wagons is because not much people would buy them. Since 1980/1990s people like SUVs and nowadays thats even more of a situation
@@villehurskainen8986 my friend got scammed and thought he was buying an m5 wagon and then he popped the hood for me and I saw an n54 💀 I didn’t know what to tell him
@Koz YT Kombi* if you want to be 100% right. Im just saying what I have heard on youtube its either wagon or an estate. In Germany we call them Kombi's,
I had a Citroen 2cv a couple of years ago and LOVED driving that thing. It was pedal to the floor all the time and so freaking fun, you dont get slower than that lol
Diameter and thickness of it is wrong though, because it feels like a tractor wheel. If only it was 1.5cm less and slightly thicker padding like the E46 M3 wheel.
Idok Watcher they’ve just gotten smaller overtime, I think that’s an appropriate size for the 90s. My e28 has the sport steering wheel option and it’s 390mm
Certainly a drivers car, that connected feeling, mixed with great balance provides a sense of speed that is tough to match. Amazing car to hone your high performance driving skills on. Great video!
Dude you are so on point. I keep saying 300hp is really the limit for performance street driving. Massive HP is like having a massive, well you know. You just can't use it all. Furthermore, even if you can rip highway pulls with 500hp, you can't explore the chassis on a backroad without getting arrested or killed. Hence my RS3 is a holeshot hero and highway killer and my Boxster is a winding road roller coaster.
Agreed. I'm at 248 in my BMW. 5.5sec 0 to 60. I hit speed limit almost instantly. I don't think I'd want a car with more than 300, maybe 320hp unless it was for the track.
My fave slow car to thrash is my 300 RWHP E46 M3. Brembos 6 and 4 piston brakes, custom Koni coil overs, Swift springs, huge anti away bar, 265mm x18" square set up with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. Headers, exhaust, and a $1000 dyno tune. The car DANCES. So nimble and balanced.
I have modified 328 e36 and i must tell this thing is amazing, definitely its something different than most of the common cars :) Greetings from Poland :)
Sufficiently powered cars can be very fun to drive. My old Mk6 GTI was only 200hp but was super fun to drive. Now I have the Mk7.5 Golf R that’s a blast too. I do plan to go Stage 1 for around 370hp, but it doesn’t need 500+hp big turbos for big fun 😎
Car and Driver's "Best Handling Car at Any Price" for 1997 and that was the U.S. version. I love this car as a vehicle that I can really enjoy as you describe. Most of the more powerful cars today can only be really stretched out on a racetrack. My M3 is a blast on any highway on or off ramp and a blast on the west coast twisty mountain roads without going double the speed limit.
I owned a 2002 civic ex coupe with a manual and an intake and i drove at like 100%, 70% of the time. No tickets, nothing. Barely broke speed limits really lol
I don't really know what people mean by driving "100%". When I had a "super slow" e30 325e with 120 hp I still was able was able to drive way over the speed limit without any effort. Same in my 1990 5 speed Accord Coupe (that I foolishly drove 125 on a country road). The only cars that I could truly drive 100% and not speed in are 80s diesels or maybe a Vanagon.
I have had an E36 M3 4/5 for about a year now. Have spent a about half that time and a significant amount of money refurbishing it. It has been a lot-hate relationship. Do love the sound of the S52 and love driving when I take it out.
Crazy how him adding "binaural audio" not only adds quality to the videos by implementing it, as it also brings a whole new algorithm to car videos; ASMR audiences.
I had a 94 e36 318i Auto and i had lots of fun with it, leaving most lancers, civics and golfs in my dust. Love those older engines. You can even tune them up at home with the right tools and a little knowledge.
Love these - I prefer the US version, do the maintenance & that engine is bullet proof! Had one for years, racked over 180k before selling. Drove it hard as my daily, took a beating in the canyons, and performed great at the occasional track day. Wish I never sold it.. Huge mistake. ;( Also, not "slow."
My first car was a 1999 E36 M3 45 as well (4 door, 5speed Manual). I miss that car so much. My ASC stopped working and I slid into a curb on a windy road in the rain and totaled it. That car was the car of my dreams, I only hope I can own another one in my lifetime. Cosmos Black with black interior, Depo Projection headlights with glass lenses and Angel Eyes, Conforti Shark Carbon Fiber Intake, Shark Injector ECU Flash, deleted resonators, and a true dual UUC exhaust that would deafen anyone as I drove under a freeway overpass or tunnel... It definitely wasn’t what I would consider “slow”. I would race and keep up with my friends in their G37 S coupes, E90 335s etc. What a dream.
Um Stuttgart rum ist glaub schlimmer als sonst wo mit Tempolimits, Blitzern und Schleichern... Da wäre jedes andere Land (bis auf die Schweiz vielleicht :D) besser für Autofans.
I've gone from a G80 M3 to a Giulia Veloce to a E36 M3... it's good to be back in a E36 and I don't think I've seen my daughter have more fun while riding with me than in this car. That includes my old 997 C2S, Macan S, and Mk 7.5 GTI... this thing is a genuine riot at all speeds.
I love thrashing NA 5 cylinders such as those in volvos and volkswagens. Such great sounding engines. Nearly any Honda 4 cylinder is also going to be a fun one to push to the limit.
Completely agree. Additionally I'd argue that a slow car w/ manual gearbox > (almost) any fast car with an automatic. BTW, the word "gypped" is actually a derogatory slur referencing the Roma population, most people use it without knowing (I did), and seeing as you don't seem like a bigot I figured I'd point it out.
I actually thought about that and was like, maybe I’m overreacting to remove that word. Basically no one in America knows it’s roots. Turns out I should have cut it. Thanks for keeping me honest.
I absolutely love my E36! I have the 328i version so it's a little less burly, but its a total blast to drive. It's got no TCS, and I believe no ABS, just you and the car. It's great!
Good luck finding a clean one of these for a price that's reasonable. Almost every version of this car that's in the Everyday American's budget has been modded to hell and listed for $2k more than its worth.
Yeah right :D Living in Europe everything above 160 hp is considered as a good performance... But me driving a E91 330i am really thinking of getting a nice old 3 series for myself, because of the reasons he told us in the video. Constantly getting way over the speed limit sucks
@@guckmaldastehteinpferd4459 It's true, but I guess you can lose your license with pretty much any car, except maybe a Trabant. Even my 323i feels "too fast" sometimes ahah !
I have Konis, Race Springs, 95m3 control arms on an e36. through the twisties, I cant imagine a car getting more traction. it just digs in. These cars have a great geometry & balance.
I love my little 99 Corolla VE with the 5 speed manual. its by no means an ''enthusiast car'' or fast but its my car and i love it. you can have fun in it without breaking the speed limit by double.
You make me want another E36 M3. Enough power to have fun. Not too much power to get in trouble. Easy to daily. Durable on track. Sounds great. Now I'm on BF.c again looking for cars. Sigh.
Yeah I find the "sweet spot" for a fun daily driver to be in the range of: 0-60mph: 5.5-6.5 sec / 1.4m: 14.0-15.0 seconds . This is plenty quick for everyday driving but not so quick as to be "overkill" where you can't row through the gears and actually enjoy the car without exceeding way over the limit / losing your license, etc.
im really happy you started making videos again, i really enjoyed them. Currently sold my e39 m5 and bought a 3.8L Cayman and loving it! if you ever want to drive it and make a video im totally down, im just a few hours south. Happy driving!
I never stopped! RUclips will sometimes not show all of your subscriptions in the feed which is a bummer. I love a good cayman. That’s the fastest of the “slow cars” and starts to enter the quick category. If it’s a gt4 it’s definitely going to earn some points on the license 😆
The E36 M3 Is like the Lamborghini of BMW's, because even tho It's not the fastest car on the road and It doesn't have the best quality materials It's a blast to drive! (referring to old Lamborghinis of course).
E36 m3 is a true drivers car. I came from an evo and I was in love with it. I had it for 7 years but got rid of it to buy a house . I have always been intrigued by the e36 and I am now a fan after owning one for 2 years now. I plan to buy another evo someday but my 3/4/5 puts a smile on my face everyday
One of my buddies has one of these with after market suspension, it’s not super fast but it can take a corner at 50 and not even break the tires loose I’ve never seen or felt anything like that, that car will stay hugged on the road insanely good
Just got myself an e36 m3 Vert a few weeks ago, came from a 1G GSX and 05 WRX. GSX will always have my heart, but man these M3’s really do get a good grasp on you, just gotta get rid of all the damn squeaks in the interior!
Love the videos lately, and that is not a slow car. But where is this filmed?! As an European, the whole area looks like the perfect picture of the American society. I find it really beautiful.
On a curved road, my 2.5 e46 touring is stunning. On the highways, it has more than enough to get speeding fines. Also fuel efficiency is comparatively great.
I had a e36 318is when I was 18 and loved it. It was slow as anything but never let me down. In Australia we got the euro spec and I still remember it having thick glass headlights. Unfortunately they don't make the new BMW's like they used to
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What's your favorite slow car to thrash? And Massive thank you to those of your who have helped support the channel on Patreon 🙏
I mean...the answer is always...
haha always? never heard of that car
Corolla with 5-speed
Porsche 968
Oh man the 968 is a treat! And a strange engine indeed
I prefer to refer to the e36 m3 as “quick” 💁🏼♂️
I’ll allow it 😂
US ones have a differnet engine, a 1998 Euro one is rather brisk.
Our European ones do 0-100 km/h in like 5sec and a 6 speed
Yes we all know about the euro but I do consider my 3/4/5 as quick. This is someone that came from an evo with 400hp
@@boostedhatch3 congratulations about the evo I got a 100hp chip tuned polo
That's definitely not a slow car though!
Compared to the monsters of today
Sure but it's definitely not fast lol
0 to 60 in 5.3 seconds isn't slow
for most people yes definitely but stats to stats will never change
Yes you are right is not a slow car when compared to your bicycle.
Tedward: Slow cars like an E36 M3 are fun.
Me: Cries in 320i
HA ,could be worse. Could be 316i or a heavy e39 520ia like i have xD
Kevin Völker I cry in e30 323i😂
*cries in 318is*
Lol bruh 2.0 forester with 148bhp
dan flunk you mean the best car out there?
Me: in eastern Europe finally could afford e46 204hp thinking "wow, that car is fast, wish I could someday afford M3"
Tedward: slow e36 M3 is fun.
Don’t be jealous of Americans. Our e36 m3 is basically a lightly modified 328
Stainless manifold, 300cel cats, tune (and camshaft if you want) you can have 240bhp like this car or 260bhp with M50 intake manifold conversion. But after all that crazy money (for eastern europe) it's not even a 300bhp car and neither is this M3 :( Really fucking sucks.
@ It's illegal in my part of Europe. It kills me that I can't do it.
@ Worse, Balkan's where we import some of Germany's laws but have no technical facilities for exemptions so they remain illegal (e.g. how G-Power can legalize Supercharged E46 in Germany but we can't)
@@spuds3986 all m3s are modified base models
Lol, if you drive a euro E36 m3, you'll never jump out thinking whoa this a nice "slow" car
Faxxxxx like the US spec one is ass
Yes, I was also surprised, that BMW had another Engine for the USA.
@@anthonyphilemon3019 just as fast to 100mph
car fanatic we never would’ve gotten an e36 M3 in the US if it wasn’t for the S50/S52. If we never got the e36, we probably never would have gotten the e46, e9x, etc
@@jonathanmoga5188 yea if you let the us model start 5sec. earlier lul
The more heavy and isolated new cars become, the more fun older slower cars will be. Pure speed goes only so far. Have always loved the E36 M3 Sedan!
I have a 2004 mustang cobra w/ well over 400whp, and a 2017 Fiesta ST with 200whp. I'm selling the cobra because the fiesta is just so much more fun to drive. Bonus, I don't hit jail time speeds in no time at all while alerting all cops within a mile radius that I'm letting her rip.
True 160kph in my e36 feels like 200 lol
12:23 people who don't merge at the speed limit are genuinely unsafe drivers
I cut the part where I flipped her off.
Tedward good man for doing your part
Theres a yield sign
Correct, the driver at that time was driving unsafely and so did Tedward.
Cameron Welz Tom merged onto the highway at speed whilst ensuring the lane he intended to enter was clear for quite some distance back. Not sure why being a car enthusiast is inherently unsafe
I absolutely love my 99 M3 coupe. I have the normal mods, M50 intake manifold, Z3 steering rack, x brace, refreshed suspension. It is an absolute delight to drive. They are extremely satisfying cars to drive, you can drive it hard without getting into trouble but still feel like you are really moving quick.
“Get a slow car like an E36 M3, you won’t break any speed limits”. Meanwhile does 60 MPH in a 30 zone lmao
There are speeding tickets and car seizure. I think that is what he means. 50k over the posted limit in Ontario equals $ 10000 fine and car seizure for a week.
@@DB0310 That's only the maximum fine. in reality, people make deals with the court and get off with a 400 dollar fine. I know that because I did that once lmao.
I can break any speed limits at anywhere in the world with a 100hp car bruh
Yeah I often hear people saying that but sometimes I drive my sister's 75hp car and I still break speed limits even when driving super chill. Realistically no matter the power if you're floored for between 5 and 10 seconds you're most likely over most speed limits, so it's more about acceleration than speed.
@@abdul4515 Some places don’t have plea bargains but yeah, I got an 85 in a 55 mph zone knocked down to parking in front of a hydrant lol
Ultimately, it comes down to this: Lightweight cars are fun no matter how quick/fast.
Older BMWs just happen to be lightweight and more analog.
Drove a friends miata the other week and gotta say it was super fun. Its his favorite car and he currently has a perfermante, gt350r, raptor and f80 m3(manual) in his garage. He has had before a crazier collection with viper acr gt3rs turbo s etc etc and still he thinks the miata is the best car hes owned. Really tells you something then with a man who can have any car, has used them all on track and stilllll a piece of shit 150hp drop top is his fav lol. I havent had that crazy of of cars bur have still had access to many of them and i agree. Light weight, manual and usable power is all you need.
Well semi lightweight.... E36 M3 is 3100-3200 pounds ish. Not the lightest car in it's class.
@@hunterrrdrives The e36 m3 has many very heavy components that when removed drop the weight significantly. The vader style seats in that car weigh like 90 pounds each. The thick sound deadening and insulation come close to 500 pounds once you pull it all out. The stock downpipe is also really heavy with a big fat catalytic converter. Just getting some light weight seats, a titanium exhaust and removing some of the insulation under the interior will put you around 2700.
@@stefanfreestylez you know what they say
Miata Is Always The Answer
Americans have such a weird definition for a "slow car" hahaha
It’s because the majority of their roads are straight and wide so you can’t get the sense of speed you get from the winding narrow country lanes we have in the UK.
To be honest, USA back in days was restricted so, USA got E36 M3 with 179kW, where in same time EU got same M3 E36 with 210kW, that's why noone in EU doesn't want USA M3 E36 xD
To be fair, their E36 M3 was only marginally quicker than the 328i. The Euro spec M3, particularly the 3.2 with the 6 speed, was WAY faster. About 80hp more in fact.
@@Dynamoduck-nf4ws remember, europe isn't only uk
@@Dynamoduck-nf4ws Yes but at the same time it doesn’t matter much with their slow speed limits and a lot of stupid driving.
You are making THE most important and relevant point with regards to driving in this video; for those who actually enjoy driving for the sake of it. It’s why I continue to love my fully thrashed FRS and defend the 86 cars. Honestly, you absolutely nailed it👍
Thanks! A couple years ago I was chasing Doctam3's Performante and Autovlogs C63S while driving The Topher's FRS on Snow tires haha..It was one of the most fun driving experiences I've ever had. ruclips.net/video/OiAhBdO7PIs/видео.html
i still own a 22 year old E36 328i manual.. the most fun car i've owned. puts a smile on my face everytime.
Every car will go twice the speed limit until you get to 75mph freeway segments.
But it is more fun to do u-turns at 50mph than go straight at 100mph. And the sharper you turn, the more Radar/laser cosine error is in your favour.
It’s science! 🤓
All about that sine error 😂
If you are out on country highways in the US and you are doing less than 90mph, you are going to get run over. Plenty of times I've been cruising at a solid 100mph and still getting passed left and right. Good for me though, just gives me someone to follow and take that ticket for me.
“E36 M3 is slow”
*Cries in Ford ka*
lol ik
Used to own that car, now thats what you call a shitbox
The engine sounds fantastic. There is something to be said about driving slow(er) cars fast.
"Slow car"
**Crying in my 39hp Fiat Panda**
I'm always amazed by the inequalities in this world when they talk about cars like this as slow and cheap in youtube videos. Here in Eastern Europe these are very powerful and expensive. An average person would need to save up for 5 to 10 years to be able to afford a 25 year old E36 M3 in a driveable condition. But even then rarely anyone could afford to fuel these big 3 liter petrol engines with the fuel prices we have. No surprise that 70% of BMW's here have 2 liter diesel engines.
thats europe a big engine for us is a 2L. in merica their standard engine is a 5L ur misunderstanding what he is saying completely
in Germany Bavaria it is the same, he is talking BS
@@jonasf1275 No he is not lol. The US M3 and European M3 are completely different in many aspects. By today's standards the US spec E36 M3 is a slow car.
Everything doing 0-100kmh around and below 6sek. Is fast in europe. Verry few cars sold in europe theese days can do 0-100below 6sek. And most of them cost absurd amount of money, not to even mention the tax for those vehicles...
My first car was a E39 525i (193hp) and that was quite quick compared to most modern cars
@Eat my Ooof no, it doesn't matter which engine is bigger or more powerful, it's about affordability. Euro and asia tends to charge cost more for bigger displacement engines, that's why euro and asia have 316i, 318i, 320i, 323i version and americans aren't.
I totally feel this video. I am from southern Germany and we have so many speed limits everywhere (and yes, also on the Autobahn in many places) and radars around (and just got new speeding laws and high fines), I really enjoy driving my E36 328i. I wouldn't even benefit from a more modern, more powerful car... As you said, 5 seconds on the throttle and way beyond the speed limit already. I prefer a nicely sounding n/a inline six over all those modern 2.0 turbo fartboxes with all their DCTs and horrible pops and bangs...
was with you until you mentioned pops and bangs, gotta have my car with the loud crackles
@@draektears2794 Well I also like a nice little burble when letting off the gas in a kind of sporty car but those overly crazy gunshot like pops are just too artificial and stupid imo
@@peterm3861 Yea its fine when engine does it naturally, like ours 2.8, which is fine. But new cars with purposely added pops and bangs are horrible and all the cars sound same - vacuum cleaner + popcorn.
Makes no sense. The country that makes 600hp station wagons and 1000hp 918 spyders has strict speed limits lol.
The S3 8V 2.0 TFSI with stock exhaust and resonator delete actually sounds quite delightful and satisfying, I have one, 4 banger turbos can really sound great just gotta tweak your set up.
In my opinion the E36 is the best looking of all 3-Series. It has a raw, hard-edged aesthetic that BMW never used before or since. And the interior has one of the best renditions of BMW's driver oriented dashes.
I couldn't agree more!!!
Nope. E46 M3 with the iconic side "gills". I have one. I love the looks. Imola Red over Cinnamon interior. Nice combo.
@@deplorabledave1048 fake side gills are not iconic.
The e36 interior is poorly made and Bad quality.
The exterior is indeed beautiful.
E46 CSL (or comp package in the US) FTW in the looks department hands down. Best looking 3 series ever made imo.
Absolutely agree! E36M3 is a perfect car for having fun on real roads. As cars keep getting faster and more capable, you just end up driving them further and further away from their limits on the street.
This car is sweet! The E36 is growing on me! I really think the power of my E46 is perfect for driving and having fun on the road
It must be heartbreaking for people with older M cars being outrun my some 4 cyl 330i's...
One of the most rewarding things you can do with these engines (w/out breaking any law) is rev-matching. I miss my 325 E36 manual I had to sell 3 yrs ago when I left my country.
remember tom, this was a horsepower car when new and became a momentum car over time. ; 0
times they are a changin! haha thats why you need S54 in everything!
In period they were super quick, like...Ferrari quick. Friend of mine bought one new in the 90s and got the vanity plate “supercar” - still has the plate and uses it on his F90 M5.
I do actually love the e36 m3 sedan....I know there are a lot of sedan haters out there for e36 m3's but I love it. Gets the driver very connected to the road
It looks so good!
had both a coupe and a sedan i prefer the sedan especially with no sunroof handled so well
exactly. I'm an original owner M3/4/5 and have a preference for the sedan it just has better classier lines...
@@bcastromusic put it this way if I come up on crypto alot over the summer, I have a very short list of cars I'd wanna buy and one of those again is on it
If it's a slow MT car then no problem. Love the sound of that I6.
People bash on the US Spec M3 but it won Best Handling Car over $30,000 in 1997 by Car and Driver, out performing the Acura NSX-T, Corvette, Dodge Viper GTS, Ferrari F355, Porsche Boxster and the Toyota Supra Turbo.
After owning 3 of these, I now find myself on autotrader looking for another one sigh...
@Snagle Channel 2 The last gen Q45/Cima/President is fun. But we can import the earlier JDM models now so that's an option. I love any Japanese DOHC V8 car. I love the UZs the most, though.
Did you have 3 because you had problems with them or you just really liked them?
Me too! Lol I've own 2 of them and a E46 M3, now a 335i... I've been looking on eBay lately for a E36 M3... Just so much more fun to drive on track and back roads.
E36 is still the best platform for fun. Great chassis. I've had 3 and love them.
i love how you are not being toxic even when criticizing something - probably the best reviewer i've ever watched!
God, those are just the best sounding rev matches.
Keep doing these. You ask questions of the viewer; cause me to reflect...it’s not as tho there is a right answer, but you get the discussions going. It’s the sort of chat I miss in these distancing and polarized times. Hanging out, talking cars with no winners no losers..just enjoying cars and driving.
I'm having a lot of fun with this format...keeps me focused on a thesis
My idea of a fun slow car is a Mark I Rabbit GTI or e30 325e or e36 318is. Anything light and agile, with suspension you can safely push.
I love a car with some give. Lean over and settle into a corner. Mmmm that’s good stuff
Man of culture
325e? That is economy engine. e30 318is considered as a poor mans m3.
The fact that you only have 35k subs is really odd, this is a really quality video and I’m definitely subscribing
Thanks. I had a fluctuating style for a while that probably made it tough for people to latch onto. Now the channel is far more consistent so I hope to see growth.
E36 models are gaining respect BIG TIME! Glad I held on to my 99 M3 coupe with 60 orig miles on her. Best decision I've made!
yeah they are ive had 2 328s and about to look for another and they like dont exist anymore :(
I’m 40. My Toyota 86 is my daily in the summer and the amount of smiles it brings on backroads in the evening and weekends has paid for he car x 3. Not only that there’s a tonne of ways to customize it and cultivate it to just how you like it without breaking the bank, add Subaru / Toyota reliability and low cost upkeep and it’s made for a wonderful ownership experience.
The 5 and 6 spds e36m gearboxes essentially have identical gearing. The 6 spd is actually clunkier and not as nice to use, but has the extra gear for hwy crusing.
Appreciate this. Had 2 supra turbos and while they felt great, was never able to exploit them. Now that I'm old and less dumb, getting an e36 m3 gives me enough thrills for when I can actually go for a sporty drive.
The slower the better if you're staying within the speed limits! Hard to beat a classic mini for that job
Had a Euro M3 and it was epic. Your neighbourhood has to be the most beautiful I've seen
Car sounds great & looks great. You know it’s true though, the American market has been cheated on lots of great German tech over the years. Why now e46 M3 CSL for example. Or M5 Wagen? 🤷♂️
Maybe we just wanted the best for us. I mean Japan didn't give their best stuff to other countries too
Think they were testing around how well the m5 would sell as a wagon but it didnt do well due to the v10 having issues so it never got to the american market
Main reason why you didnt get wagons is because not much people would buy them.
Since 1980/1990s people like SUVs and nowadays thats even more of a situation
@@villehurskainen8986 my friend got scammed and thought he was buying an m5 wagon and then he popped the hood for me and I saw an n54 💀 I didn’t know what to tell him
@Koz YT Kombi* if you want to be 100% right.
Im just saying what I have heard on youtube its either wagon or an estate.
In Germany we call them Kombi's,
I had a Citroen 2cv a couple of years ago and LOVED driving that thing. It was pedal to the floor all the time and so freaking fun, you dont get slower than that lol
I may be driving one this week!
@@TedwardDrives YES, gonna be waiting eagerly for that video. Lots of love❤️
That is truly the only good looking airbag steering wheel
Diameter and thickness of it is wrong though, because it feels like a tractor wheel. If only it was 1.5cm less and slightly thicker padding like the E46 M3 wheel.
Idok Watcher they’ve just gotten smaller overtime, I think that’s an appropriate size for the 90s. My e28 has the sport steering wheel option and it’s 390mm
i LOVE, LOVE E36 sedans. Been enjoying E90 M3 6MT past 9 yrs, always looking to buy a mint E36 M3 SEDAN 5MT!
The exhaust actually sounds great. I think it sounds better than the E46 M3
Lots more grunt rather than rasp
Tedward Yeah for some reason the S54 sounds too high pitched the other non M engines such as the M52 sound a lot better in my opinion
@@stanleychen3298 High pitch because they reached 8000rpm
Certainly a drivers car, that connected feeling, mixed with great balance provides a sense of speed that is tough to match. Amazing car to hone your high performance driving skills on. Great video!
Thank you!
Dude you are so on point. I keep saying 300hp is really the limit for performance street driving. Massive HP is like having a massive, well you know. You just can't use it all. Furthermore, even if you can rip highway pulls with 500hp, you can't explore the chassis on a backroad without getting arrested or killed. Hence my RS3 is a holeshot hero and highway killer and my Boxster is a winding road roller coaster.
Agreed. I'm at 248 in my BMW. 5.5sec 0 to 60. I hit speed limit almost instantly. I don't think I'd want a car with more than 300, maybe 320hp unless it was for the track.
@@JonnyBeoulve 248? How?
My fave slow car to thrash is my 300 RWHP E46 M3. Brembos 6 and 4 piston brakes, custom Koni coil overs, Swift springs, huge anti away bar, 265mm x18" square set up with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires. Headers, exhaust, and a $1000 dyno tune. The car DANCES. So nimble and balanced.
That armrest moment had me laughing hard 🤣
I have modified 328 e36 and i must tell this thing is amazing, definitely its something different than most of the common cars :) Greetings from Poland :)
The US, where the best place to drive fast is when your getting on or of the actually road. Greetings from Germany ;-)
Sufficiently powered cars can be very fun to drive. My old Mk6 GTI was only 200hp but was super fun to drive. Now I have the Mk7.5 Golf R that’s a blast too. I do plan to go Stage 1 for around 370hp, but it doesn’t need 500+hp big turbos for big fun 😎
This made me feel a little better about my slowass GS300 lmao
What year is it?
Hilton Schliemann I had a 2015 GS350 lease car
@@gunmenow The 350 is decently quick. It lives in that weird world between slow-car-fast and actually fast.
At least you don’t drive under 200 horsepower car 👌
@@sterlingsilver320 2002
Car and Driver's "Best Handling Car at Any Price" for 1997 and that was the U.S. version. I love this car as a vehicle that I can really enjoy as you describe. Most of the more powerful cars today can only be really stretched out on a racetrack. My M3 is a blast on any highway on or off ramp and a blast on the west coast twisty mountain roads without going double the speed limit.
I owned a 2002 civic ex coupe with a manual and an intake and i drove at like 100%, 70% of the time. No tickets, nothing. Barely broke speed limits really lol
haha that sounds like a ton of fun
I don't really know what people mean by driving "100%". When I had a "super slow" e30 325e with 120 hp I still was able was able to drive way over the speed limit without any effort. Same in my 1990 5 speed Accord Coupe (that I foolishly drove 125 on a country road). The only cars that I could truly drive 100% and not speed in are 80s diesels or maybe a Vanagon.
I have had an E36 M3 4/5 for about a year now. Have spent a about half that time and a significant amount of money refurbishing it. It has been a lot-hate relationship. Do love the sound of the S52 and love driving when I take it out.
Title: M3 E36 is a slow car
Me: laughing out of my 71 hp car
Crazy how him adding "binaural audio" not only adds quality to the videos by implementing it, as it also brings a whole new algorithm to car videos; ASMR audiences.
My first car is an E36 M3, it was a fast car for me.
It is more than enough for a new driver for sure. That’s really as fast as I’d recommend for someone learning car control
Me too :). It's a joy to drive.
The US models were essentially detuned
@@craigoliveira7916 and without individual throttle bodies
First car eh? Thanks dad.
I had a 94 e36 318i Auto and i had lots of fun with it, leaving most lancers, civics and golfs in my dust. Love those older engines. You can even tune them up at home with the right tools and a little knowledge.
Love these - I prefer the US version, do the maintenance & that engine is bullet proof! Had one for years, racked over 180k before selling. Drove it hard as my daily, took a beating in the canyons, and performed great at the occasional track day. Wish I never sold it.. Huge mistake. ;(
Also, not "slow."
My first car was a 1999 E36 M3 45 as well (4 door, 5speed Manual). I miss that car so much. My ASC stopped working and I slid into a curb on a windy road in the rain and totaled it. That car was the car of my dreams, I only hope I can own another one in my lifetime. Cosmos Black with black interior, Depo Projection headlights with glass lenses and Angel Eyes, Conforti Shark Carbon Fiber Intake, Shark Injector ECU Flash, deleted resonators, and a true dual UUC exhaust that would deafen anyone as I drove under a freeway overpass or tunnel... It definitely wasn’t what I would consider “slow”. I would race and keep up with my friends in their G37 S coupes, E90 335s etc. What a dream.
I am so happy to live in germany, where we have some parts of the highway without a speedlimit
And no cops like „first shoot, then ask, ooh thats sad why can’t he answer my questions?“
Um Stuttgart rum ist glaub schlimmer als sonst wo mit Tempolimits, Blitzern und Schleichern... Da wäre jedes andere Land (bis auf die Schweiz vielleicht :D) besser für Autofans.
TheS1PikesPeak but cops in germany love to impound your car to „check“ if everything is legal
TheS1PikesPeak oh no the cops are cracking down on the blacks what ever will we do!
It is a drivers car the feeling of driving an old school M3 BMW is Beautiful
The Euro spec has 80 more hp than the USA spec, however 0-62 times differ only .1 second
0-62 is a poor yardstick for an M3.
I could not care less. 0-60 means almost nothing to this type of car.
@@skylergabriele6445 Yea I know...I own one. I was just stating a fact bud.
I've gone from a G80 M3 to a Giulia Veloce to a E36 M3... it's good to be back in a E36 and I don't think I've seen my daughter have more fun while riding with me than in this car. That includes my old 997 C2S, Macan S, and Mk 7.5 GTI... this thing is a genuine riot at all speeds.
"Not a fast car". Bro come to europe, land of the 3 cylinders. This M3 is a damn space-x rocket over here.
The Euro spec is only .1 sec faster 0-62. The US spec is pretty quick still
I love thrashing NA 5 cylinders such as those in volvos and volkswagens. Such great sounding engines. Nearly any Honda 4 cylinder is also going to be a fun one to push to the limit.
Completely agree. Additionally I'd argue that a slow car w/ manual gearbox > (almost) any fast car with an automatic.
BTW, the word "gypped" is actually a derogatory slur referencing the Roma population, most people use it without knowing (I did), and seeing as you don't seem like a bigot I figured I'd point it out.
I actually thought about that and was like, maybe I’m overreacting to remove that word. Basically no one in America knows it’s roots. Turns out I should have cut it. Thanks for keeping me honest.
I absolutely love my E36! I have the 328i version so it's a little less burly, but its a total blast to drive. It's got no TCS, and I believe no ABS, just you and the car. It's great!
Me: cries in 75 hp
The US has gotten crazy with HP. Anything with under 500hp isn't considered all that fast anymore lol.
My dad has a 1997 328i with 340,000 miles on it and is still a baby it’s awesome and she is a great starting car
Good luck finding a clean one of these for a price that's reasonable. Almost every version of this car that's in the Everyday American's budget has been modded to hell and listed for $2k more than its worth.
Second car I owned was an E36 M3. Bought in 2018 with 94k miles. Daily driven ever since. Now has 114k. Freakin love that car.
Bro I've got an E36 323i which I think is alright in terms of perfomance but here you come calling the M3 slow 😂
Yeah right :D
Living in Europe everything above 160 hp is considered as a good performance...
But me driving a E91 330i am really thinking of getting a nice old 3 series for myself, because of the reasons he told us in the video. Constantly getting way over the speed limit sucks
@@guckmaldastehteinpferd4459 It's true, but I guess you can lose your license with pretty much any car, except maybe a Trabant. Even my 323i feels "too fast" sometimes ahah !
I have Konis, Race Springs, 95m3 control arms on an e36. through the twisties, I cant imagine a car getting more traction. it just digs in. These cars have a great geometry & balance.
In Europe this is a “fast” car 😂
In Europe it actually is though. It’s a different engine in the US. We have about 100hp less than the euro version
Man I wish I could find a 911 like yours. It's my dream car
same but its hard to sell at my country
Slow cars are fun?
Wow so people think the same way as I do
I love my little 99 Corolla VE with the 5 speed manual. its by no means an ''enthusiast car'' or fast but its my car and i love it. you can have fun in it without breaking the speed limit by double.
You make me want another E36 M3. Enough power to have fun. Not too much power to get in trouble. Easy to daily. Durable on track. Sounds great.
Now I'm on BF.c again looking for cars. Sigh.
Yeah I find the "sweet spot" for a fun daily driver to be in the range of: 0-60mph: 5.5-6.5 sec / 1.4m: 14.0-15.0 seconds . This is plenty quick for everyday driving but not so quick as to be "overkill" where you can't row through the gears and actually enjoy the car without exceeding way over the limit / losing your license, etc.
im really happy you started making videos again, i really enjoyed them. Currently sold my e39 m5 and bought a 3.8L Cayman and loving it! if you ever want to drive it and make a video im totally down, im just a few hours south. Happy driving!
I never stopped! RUclips will sometimes not show all of your subscriptions in the feed which is a bummer. I love a good cayman. That’s the fastest of the “slow cars” and starts to enter the quick category. If it’s a gt4 it’s definitely going to earn some points on the license 😆
The amount of subscribers you have is a crime. You deserve way more!
Haha thank you! I think they’ll come soon so I’ll keep at it.
Tedward Do please! Let me know if you want to drive my P.O.S. 944. That’ll bring the views for sure lmao
The engine sound is awesome
That car seems like so much fun to drive
The E36 M3 Is like the Lamborghini of BMW's, because even tho It's not the fastest car on the road and It doesn't have the best quality materials It's a blast to drive! (referring to old Lamborghinis of course).
E36 m3 is a true drivers car. I came from an evo and I was in love with it. I had it for 7 years but got rid of it to buy a house . I have always been intrigued by the e36 and I am now a fan after owning one for 2 years now. I plan to buy another evo someday but my 3/4/5 puts a smile on my face everyday
Now have a e46 M3 and prefer driving the e36 😮
One of my buddies has one of these with after market suspension, it’s not super fast but it can take a corner at 50 and not even break the tires loose I’ve never seen or felt anything like that, that car will stay hugged on the road insanely good
Tedward only speaks the truth. Great video.
Your videos are quite entertaining.. the classic cars are always more fun to experiment with/fix because the tech is simple.. keep it up!
This guys voice is so soothing
Ur latest vids have been great! Already subbed
Thank you!
Wouldn't say E36 M3 is slow, but I get what your saying, relative,
Sounds fantastic and great fun. 👌
This review was great!
Great audio & thanks for adding timestamps!
Keep it up mate!
The lightweight version of the E36 is a work of art. I never shoulda sold mine 😢
Just got myself an e36 m3 Vert a few weeks ago, came from a 1G GSX and 05 WRX. GSX will always have my heart, but man these M3’s really do get a good grasp on you, just gotta get rid of all the damn squeaks in the interior!
Love the videos lately, and that is not a slow car. But where is this filmed?! As an European, the whole area looks like the perfect picture of the American society. I find it really beautiful.
Thanks! I film in New England close to Boston
On a curved road, my 2.5 e46 touring is stunning. On the highways, it has more than enough to get speeding fines. Also fuel efficiency is comparatively great.
I had a e36 318is when I was 18 and loved it.
It was slow as anything but never let me down.
In Australia we got the euro spec and I still remember it having thick glass headlights. Unfortunately they don't make the new BMW's like they used to