As an Aylesbury Mod, I find it very hard to take seriously anything a Wycombe Skin says 🤣. You need to remember, they thought walking and breathing at the same time was multi-tasking. They were great days and the level of hatred between the two could be very intense. I always found the boneheads hanging around the flea market to be unusually thick bullies, who bottled it the moment you fronted them.
Aylesbury used to happily attend Soul 81 as mods in numbers and never had any hassle from the local skinheads. No need to “gob off”, we were there having a good time and pulling your young ladies. Never saw your lot in Aylesbury either - even at Friars. The Aylesbury-Wycombe rivalry was very intense throughout the 80s, and transcended any youth cult. Nowadays, just something to look back on and laugh about.
@@SeanHaywood-o5u Haha we used to go to Aylesbury all the time. The Ejits . First proper gig I ever attended was Bodysnatchers and Badmanners at friars 1980. Went there many many times , don't remember ever seeing any mods 😂@SeanHaywood-o5u
@SeanHaywood-o5u I reckon the inter town rivalry between Wycombe and Aylesbury would have trumped the mod/skinhead rivalry. If you'd come to The Octagon on a Saturday giving the big'un you'd have got filled in by whoever and no doubt it would've been the same the other way round. There was a punch up between Wycombe and Aylesbury at the Berks & Bucks Senior Cup final at Wolverton in about 1987. It goes against the grain to admit it even now but Aylesbury had the better football firm - they even used CS gas against us. If something like that happened at a match now it would probably be big repercussions but the old bill sorted it out and the game went on without anyone batting an eyelid.
I tried out as lead singer for the embryonic Ejits line up (went to school with the drummer and lead guitarist, who liked the idea of a Mod fronting a punk band). Fortunately for all concerned, it did not work out - due to me being awful!
Best thing about Carnaby St in 1978 used to be Chubbies sandwich bar.... best roast beef & coleslaw sarnies, every lunchtime i was there .... good memories.
Carnaby st is a shadow of its former self , used to like strolling down there with merc Ben Sherman lambretta Shelly’s and even pretty green but now I don’t even go there no more .
There's nothing there at all now. Not a single shop I'd even bother entering. Just big corporate crap. The young fashion designers that made the place driven out long ago
Great times I was a skin in 88 but used to hang around with a lot of Mods around Carnaby strret. We used the same shops, The Merc and Sherrys, on Ganton Street. Sherrys is still going but moved down the road to Poland steet.
I have good memories from that period. The Flea Market was great for records and scooter merchandise. Rarely saw trouble between mods and skinheads, but loads of trouble with casuals. I was more suedehead so mixed with both groups. Used to be great when you'd get 100+ casuals run down the street attacking people and shortly after several hundred mods, skins and rudies would group up and head off to the casual area for pay back. '82/83 period.
I remember going in Merc, in about 88. I probably had my enormous quiff at the time, so I bet they thought i was a bit lost. Carnaby St was a lot better in those days....like most of London.
Changed so much from when I was down there 1980-87ish. Last time there me & Wilf was trying to find certain shop's, that was in back-street's selling MA1's & only the Ben Sherman shop in main road/street. xx
@@subcultz1073 Ohh shit, show's how long we aint been down there. Last time there got my burgandy ?? MA2 down a small shop on side street to the left?? LOLOL Can imagine all the Mod's & Skin ruk's back then ;-)
Late 79 into 80, 81 us mods used to get hounded by the Skins ( lost count of the times I was chased after refusing the old “ got 10p mate” ) as they were mainly an older lot, we’d be about 15,16,17 and go to the Beat route under 18’s club on a Saturday afternoon for some Northern Soul, and then all head to the Flea Market area to try and intimidate the Skins, that never really worked out well lol, 82-83 a lot of us turned Casual because of football, things changed then for the Skins with the trainer on the other foot. I stopped going Carnaby Street then because I couldn’t bring myself to fight Mods. Great times!
Who remembers “spider” the glue sniffing skin with a web tattooed on his head ? He was ok to us young mods if you gave him some change… tall skinny skin always in bleached jeans and massive boots very early 80’s
I remember those days, I was never a mod but we used to ride scooters, and got jumped loads of times by skinheads. The thing I find really hard to find any background on is, skins and mods were enemies back then, even though skinhead came out of mod in the first place, but when did skins start riding scooters, and why? Then even stranger, skins, mods and the northern lads all morphed together to become Scooterboys (now just scooterists). All strange bedfellows, and the weirder (but good) thing of all is, go to any scooter rally anywhere in the country and there will be mods, skins, scooter boys, hipsters, southerners, northerners, everyday people like me (not in one camp or another) and it's the easiest going, happiest atmosphere you will find almost anywhere! Roll on next season and the rallies!
Yes I agree mate, to be honest as a Skinhead I never had a problem with mods. But it was just subculture rivalry. Not much different than football. A fight one day, a beer together the next . It all morphed and blended towards end of the 80's
Early 79 was great in Carnaby Street but I suppose I'm a little older? But 82/83 us older mods had turned to doing scooter rallies rather than hanging around that area, Shakespeare Head was the venue and the basement jukebox great days before it exploded
To anyone not there in this era, and looking at it from this moment in time, I can understand how this looks “stupid”. It was; it was also the most exhilarating time to grow up, the fighting was normally “handbags”, and we were all so skinny that hardly anyone got seriously hurt. The later football days, with far more weapons involved, were a lot worse.
You really haven't got a clue what life in the early 80's was like, various subcultures having a tear up on a Bank holiday down the seafront of numerous dying seaside towns up and down the country, life was tribal and you stood with your own against everyone else, Punks, Skins, Mods, Casuals, Goths, etc etc. That was life there was no brainwashing involved unlike the manufactured plastic garbage these days where uniformity is constant
I remember a group of skins came running into carnaby street and me and my 2 close friends we were rockers nack then back in 81/82 we actually thought we were going to take a huge battering but no these skins just ran past us ignoring us but chasing the mods that were hanging around carnaby street boy did the 3 of us get out of that area bery quick
Thanks for the education of your history it’s always enjoyable!!!!
Just my crazy memory flashes 😂
As an Aylesbury Mod, I find it very hard to take seriously anything a Wycombe Skin says 🤣. You need to remember, they thought walking and breathing at the same time was multi-tasking.
They were great days and the level of hatred between the two could be very intense. I always found the boneheads hanging around the flea market to be unusually thick bullies, who bottled it the moment you fronted them.
Aylesbury Mod!!! Never saw you gobbing off in Wycombe 😂😂
Aylesbury used to happily attend Soul 81 as mods in numbers and never had any hassle from the local skinheads. No need to “gob off”, we were there having a good time and pulling your young ladies. Never saw your lot in Aylesbury either - even at Friars. The Aylesbury-Wycombe rivalry was very intense throughout the 80s, and transcended any youth cult. Nowadays, just something to look back on and laugh about.
@@SeanHaywood-o5u Haha we used to go to Aylesbury all the time. The Ejits . First proper gig I ever attended was Bodysnatchers and Badmanners at friars 1980. Went there many many times , don't remember ever seeing any mods 😂@SeanHaywood-o5u
@SeanHaywood-o5u I reckon the inter town rivalry between Wycombe and Aylesbury would have trumped the mod/skinhead rivalry. If you'd come to The Octagon on a Saturday giving the big'un you'd have got filled in by whoever and no doubt it would've been the same the other way round. There was a punch up between Wycombe and Aylesbury at the Berks & Bucks Senior Cup final at Wolverton in about 1987. It goes against the grain to admit it even now but Aylesbury had the better football firm - they even used CS gas against us. If something like that happened at a match now it would probably be big repercussions but the old bill sorted it out and the game went on without anyone batting an eyelid.
I tried out as lead singer for the embryonic Ejits line up (went to school with the drummer and lead guitarist, who liked the idea of a Mod fronting a punk band). Fortunately for all concerned, it did not work out - due to me being awful!
I was a Wycombe mod and I knew a lot of skinheads - including the presenter of the video.
Best thing about Carnaby St in 1978 used to be Chubbies sandwich bar.... best roast beef & coleslaw sarnies, every lunchtime i was there .... good memories.
Carnaby st is a shadow of its former self , used to like strolling down there with merc Ben Sherman lambretta Shelly’s and even pretty green but now I don’t even go there no more .
Carnaby Street, not what it used to be.
There's nothing there at all now. Not a single shop I'd even bother entering. Just big corporate crap. The young fashion designers that made the place driven out long ago
Great times I was a skin in 88 but used to hang around with a lot of Mods around Carnaby strret. We used the same shops, The Merc and Sherrys, on Ganton Street. Sherrys is still going but moved down the road to Poland steet.
I love this thank you!
Nice one mate, just a memory flash, follow the page and share for more
In mid 80's. We skinheads drank in The Store at back of Carnaby
And mugged young mods for 10p for a cup of tea 😂
I have good memories from that period. The Flea Market was great for records and scooter merchandise. Rarely saw trouble between mods and skinheads, but loads of trouble with casuals. I was more suedehead so mixed with both groups. Used to be great when you'd get 100+ casuals run down the street attacking people and shortly after several hundred mods, skins and rudies would group up and head off to the casual area for pay back. '82/83 period.
Yes that's true mate. Thinking about it, that fight was more around 1980. It was before the casuals
Right On records at the Fleamarket.....yeh lots of fighting back than
@@utregsoulnorh715 loved the flea market
@@utregsoulnorh715 was well edgy then 🤣
@@subcultz1073 True
that Mate
Sherry's was opposite The Merc, Shelleys was a bit back towards Carnaby before it moved onto Carnaby.
I remember going in Merc, in about 88. I probably had my enormous quiff at the time, so I bet they thought i was a bit lost. Carnaby St was a lot better in those days....like most of London.
Changed so much from when I was down there 1980-87ish. Last time there me & Wilf was trying to find certain shop's, that was in back-street's selling MA1's & only the Ben Sherman shop in main road/street. xx
I don't think the Ben Sherman shop is there anymore either
@@subcultz1073 Ohh shit, show's how long we aint been down there. Last time there got my burgandy ?? MA2 down a small shop on side street to the left?? LOLOL Can imagine all the Mod's & Skin ruk's back then ;-)
Late 79 into 80, 81 us mods used to get hounded by the Skins ( lost count of the times I was chased after refusing the old “ got 10p mate” ) as they were mainly an older lot, we’d be about 15,16,17 and go to the Beat route under 18’s club on a Saturday afternoon for some Northern Soul, and then all head to the Flea Market area to try and intimidate the Skins, that never really worked out well lol, 82-83 a lot of us turned Casual because of football, things changed then for the Skins with the trainer on the other foot. I stopped going Carnaby Street then because I couldn’t bring myself to fight Mods. Great times!
Yes that's true mate. A lot of skins turned casual as well. They overtook as skinhead enemy number 1 very quickly 😂
Who remembers “spider” the glue sniffing skin with a web tattooed on his head ? He was ok to us young mods if you gave him some change… tall skinny skin always in bleached jeans and massive boots very early 80’s
Yes he was called Spider Kev. He was from Scotland
I remember him.
I remember those days, I was never a mod but we used to ride scooters, and got jumped loads of times by skinheads.
The thing I find really hard to find any background on is, skins and mods were enemies back then, even though skinhead came out of mod in the first place, but when did skins start riding scooters, and why? Then even stranger, skins, mods and the northern lads all morphed together to become Scooterboys (now just scooterists). All strange bedfellows, and the weirder (but good) thing of all is, go to any scooter rally anywhere in the country and there will be mods, skins, scooter boys, hipsters, southerners, northerners, everyday people like me (not in one camp or another) and it's the easiest going, happiest atmosphere you will find almost anywhere! Roll on next season and the rallies!
Yes I agree mate, to be honest as a Skinhead I never had a problem with mods. But it was just subculture rivalry. Not much different than football. A fight one day, a beer together the next . It all morphed and blended towards end of the 80's
Early 79 was great in Carnaby Street but I suppose I'm a little older? But 82/83 us older mods had turned to doing scooter rallies rather than hanging around that area, Shakespeare Head was the venue and the basement jukebox great days before it exploded
Who remembers Harry the chain smoking Chinese Mod who used to work in Merc in the 80s?
Sure do mate, an unsung legend 😂
Oh mate , yes I do..That’s bought back a Face i’d completely forgotten about.
@mauricerevelle8451 I tried buying the french quad cinema poster of quadrophinia off him they had on the ceiling 🤣
@ Ha, brilliant. We used try and haggle with him and another bloke who worked in The Carvern .Sometimes it would work,but mostly no. Best times.
I thought his name was Jimmy?
I had a lambretter in the 80s 😂😂
You should have kept it
Should have got a Lambretta!
@petersullivan3012 you obviously knew what I meant
I was a MOD up there I remember Tufty the Skin great lad Mad Jock lol and many more brilliant days Merry Christmas all 👍👍❤❤❤❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
They were characters
How can somebody still feel proud of those stupid fights?
It's about having a laugh at mis-spent youth and the fun we had 😂
To anyone not there in this era, and looking at it from this moment in time, I can understand how this looks “stupid”. It was; it was also the most exhilarating time to grow up, the fighting was normally “handbags”, and we were all so skinny that hardly anyone got seriously hurt. The later football days, with far more weapons involved, were a lot worse.
Probably chelsea skins
Back then we skinheads would fight eachother but if someone else had a pop at skinheads we all jumped in
God talk about sad and brainwashed victims
You really haven't got a clue what life in the early 80's was like, various subcultures having a tear up on a Bank holiday down the seafront of numerous dying seaside towns up and down the country, life was tribal and you stood with your own against everyone else, Punks, Skins, Mods, Casuals, Goths, etc etc. That was life there was no brainwashing involved unlike the manufactured plastic garbage these days where uniformity is constant
@@billywatts4689 who are ?
@subcultz1073 Fashion victims like this in your video
Carnaby Street is an overpriced rip nowadays.
I remember a group of skins came running into carnaby street and me and my 2 close friends we were rockers nack then back in 81/82 we actually thought we were going to take a huge battering but no these skins just ran past us ignoring us but chasing the mods that were hanging around carnaby street boy did the 3 of us get out of that area bery quick
This was about that time. I think 80-81