Ok I hate to admit this but my shuffle step is starting with the wrong foot and I never knew it , well I got to drill this! Hopefully this correction will make me quicker and more efficient. Another great video.
Very helpful. Love it. I think a good description when you mentioned “offensive” even though it wasn’t aggressive, would be “pro-active”. I know it's just vernacular but while I was listening to you two superheroes I thought how much better almost everything in life is when one can be proactive instead of re-active. Thanks again. Greatly appreciated!
I can't believe that I have been initiating my shuffle step on the wrong foot since I first started out playing pickleball about 5 years ago. I have taken private lessons. have gone to numerous clinics, and watched many online videos, but I don't remember this point ever being made before. Instruction such as this may not be as sexy as learning ways to perfect a put away shot, but it is actually much more beneficial. It establishes a fundamentally sound base from which you can build on. Great content guys! Thanks so much.
Great demo of correct footwork. This seems awkward initially but easy to practice inside. Also thank you for clearly demonstrating and explaining hitting ‘out in front’ . Now I know in front of hips, when requires using proper footwork to get there. Nice.
Hi Briones and Caden, hello from the UK. Just a quick question, what is the playing service of your pickleball court you have used? We are looking to resurface a retired tennis court and thought we would ask the experts on what we should use to create good Pickleball surface. Thanks both for all the great Pickleball content. It is starting to get very popular here in the UK
I started moving my feet into positioning myself behind the ball at the optimal point of contact, about several months ago. That feet movement made a critical difference in improving my game!
Extremely helpful video! I think I was probably initiating the shuffle on the wrong foot, AND I hit lots of balls that are not in front of me but off to either side. You gave me information I can start practicing at the next PB open play. Thanks so much!!
Coming from years of volleyball , shuffle steps, defense reading the court and movement were pretty easy to adapt for me. Once I got my wife playing I soon realized that it is not natural movement for most people early on in playing. Always enjoy your content. Thank you
until you mentioned inside leg moving 1st... i never thought about it... and sure enough,,, when i did it i was spreading from the outside 1st.... limiting my ability to do a second step if needed... also i could not get back to ready, fast enough.... Great Video... Thank you.... Vince
Jordan, this information about the shuffle step movement at the NVZ line is great. Thank you so much. I’m wondering if we should use a similar shuffle at the baseline or other parts of the court?
Interesting as always! I do start with my trailing leg (i.e. right leg when going left) for lateral shuffles. I actually have little choice in the matter because I usually have a very wide stance (some tell me it's too wide) and it would be difficult and possibly painful to start with my leading foot. For angle shuffles I pivot first by moving my leading leg to point where I want to go laterally, then just do a plain old shuffle from there (starting with my trailing leg as you recommend). I note that Caden is kinda doing that just before minute 16:00 in the video. Coming back to the line I reverse the process (shuffle then pivot back to the line). But it seems to me you left out a useful movement. For example moving back and to the left in order to hit a forehand that would've otherwise gone slightly to the backhand side. My forehand dink (so far) is a bit more accurate and has a lot more topspin than my backhand dink so I favor it a little bit. In this case it's more a couple steps back than a shuffle but for me it seems to have elements of the shuffle as well (dragging feet for stability for example). Are you going to cover that in another video? Or is that something you just don't use (for example, because you'd rather take it with the backhand)?
@@BrionesPickleball Oops. Nevermind. Once I got on the court I found that I always start the shuffle with my trailing leg (e.g. right leg when going left) regardless if I'm moving directly to the side or also backing up.
I could use help with my "eye work." If I take my eyes off the ball, then I usually don't get the focus back and will often whiff. But I want to know where my opponents are so that I can a better decision on where to place the ball. Please consider a video on this topic.
One aspect of the shuffle step that you didn’t cover, but do routinely, is the toe/instep drag of the trailing foot. I find that this helps me stop my sideward or angled momentum (depending on what shot I’m executing) and provides a stable base for a speedup or recovery for the next dink. Really good video. Thanks!
Nice work, JB. I need to drill this, slowly at first, until it becomes automatic. Starting at about 5:35 you talked about the need to keep the head steady. Do you have any suggestions on how to drill that? Thanks.
@@BrionesPickleball OK, I drilled this with two different people today. One was a 3.5 gal who just minutes before was popping up quite a bit while dinking with her 4.0 son. When I taught her the foot work lesson, it was a huge game changer. No more popups and she was able to place her shots. I also taught the lesson to a young man who is trying to get to the 4.0 level. He just naturally can get everything but with arms way out and feet way in. This drill was harder for him and it was frustrating for him to make the changes in games but he understands the benefit. As for me, huge game changer to be more aware of my feet.... not only in my dinking but also everywhere else on the court. I was far more accurate and intentional. Thank you so much!
Great vid. Do you have any vids in your series that discusses and shows team movement , team strategy in relation to each others body position on the court, post third shot (from serving) movement as a team? I haven't found anyone really talking court position and movement relative to each other during different situations off the NVZ. For example, as soon as you see a return of serve going to your partner some say rip to the NVZ line, others say observe and move based on the type of 3rd shot your partner hits, if they hit too high of a drop and your going to get smacked, if you rushed to the line , now you have to back up fast to a def. position off the NVZ line. This is the kind of movement mechanics im talking about, should the serving team stay relatively in line with each other as they make their way to the NVZ line..... that kind of discussion. Moving forward and backing up as a team.Thanks
You said to start with the inside food to initiate the shuffle step but in all the example videos the pros initiated the movement with the outside foot?
I think a good rule to follow is the 4 step process: 1. Can I attack the ball out of the air 2. If I can’t attack attack it out of the air, can I take it as a dink out of the air 3. If I can’t take it as a dink out of the air, I’m going to let the ball bounce, apex and then hit the ball (While moving my feet) 4. Short hop or half volley Everything is very situational obviously, such as step 1 and 2 I might choose to dink out of air instead of attack out of air, but moving our feet and not short hopping every single ball will allow us to generate more offence.
Suppose the opponent sends the ball close to the net then how do you move forward directly, or on either side. Is it the same shuffle and step that you have shown for going side to side and also slightly back?
I know this is on footwork but I also see people too upright - causing a miss hit. straight back, straight knees etc. You have to beat the ball by getting in position, then calm body/paddle, then hit - correct me if I'm wrong.
caden do you never use topspin on your backhand dinks when you volley? I feel like i only see you do it off the bounce. is that intentional or am i reading too much into the small sample i see
As a dance teacher of 25 years, I have shuffle steps and lunges down. Sadly, the friends I play with haven't yet realized the importance of great nvz footwork and, also, split steps.👍🏼
@@BrionesPickleball Thanks Jordan. Miss our training sessions! ?? as I watch you and Caden dinking. Do you feel a dink that drops close to the net, forcing opponent low and close to net (unattackable) or a longer dink to the NVZ line is better??
With the drill at the end be more realistic if done cross court instead of straight ahead since the majority of dinks are cross court? Also, it seems you have to shuffle more when drinking cross court because of the angles you have to cover.
Guys, as a strength & conditioning coach, your kind of shuffle is the kind of lateral shuffle we teach our athletes to avoid. Let's say you're shuffle to the right, you push with your trail foot (left foot) not pulling with your lead foot (right foot). The reason is because, when you push you engage all your powerhouse muscles (calf, quads, and glutes) together to propel you to your direction. However, when you pull, you're using you inner thigh, which is supposed to be you knee stabilizer to, to pull your whole weight to your direction with speed. That's not the duty of a stabilizer. Simply put you're using the wrong muscle group to do the work. This is not new. There was a lot of cases reported on adductor injuries and groin pain in basketball players because of this movement which is exactly the reason why nowadays if you consult with any s&c coach or athletic performance coach, they'll say the same thing. A shuffle is a push motion from a trail leg, not a pull motion from the lead leg.
Lol. Push/pull however you want to say it, what we show here is the correct way to move on the pickleball court. I’ve coached hundreds of players and haven’t see one get injured due to moving this way.
If I “tell” people to push off their trailing foot, they will get this movement wrong every single time. Sometimes they need to hear something that actually translates to the action. So push/pull, use whatever you want to use, either way, pro players and high level players all move the same way
For the shuffle step, please explain WHY you pull with the lead foot first, instead of pushing off with the trailing foot. It seems way way faster for me to push off with the trailing foot. What is the reason for doing it the way that you show?
We have stated this in several videos. But if you move your “outside” foot first, you will not get as far OR you will end up taking more than one shuffle step which is less efficient. Go ahead and try it.
It sounds like you are doing it right pushing off with trailing foot. Moving right, left foot moves first. Moving left, right foot moves first. Doing it opposite just does not work at all.
If you move to the right shouldn't you step with your right foot first? Now you have to take two steps to move the position of your body instead of just one. As explained here ruclips.net/video/qk0h6p6vGtU/видео.html
I could use help with my "eye work." If I take my eyes off the ball, then I usually don't get the focus back and will often whiff. But I want to know where my opponents are so that I can a better decision on where to place the ball. Please consider a video on this topic.
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Are YOU moving your feet correctly?
What a good teacher you are!
Thanks !
Ok I hate to admit this but my shuffle step is starting with the wrong foot and I never knew it , well I got to drill this! Hopefully this correction will make me quicker and more efficient. Another great video.
Awesome !
I now know I wasn't!
Very helpful. Love it. I think a good description when you mentioned “offensive” even though it wasn’t aggressive, would be “pro-active”. I know it's just vernacular but while I was listening to you two superheroes I thought how much better almost everything in life is when one can be proactive instead of re-active. Thanks again. Greatly appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
I can't believe that I have been initiating my shuffle step on the wrong foot since I first started out playing pickleball about 5 years ago. I have taken private lessons. have gone to numerous clinics, and watched many online videos, but I don't remember this point ever being made before. Instruction such as this may not be as sexy as learning ways to perfect a put away shot, but it is actually much more beneficial. It establishes a fundamentally sound base from which you can build on. Great content guys! Thanks so much.
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Great video! You clearly explained the problem, the solution, and gave practical understandable examples.
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great video and informative with footwork on dinks. The shuffle steps are crucial.
Yes, those shuffle steps are super important!
Amazing video - so detailed about proper footwork. Worth watching multiple times as a refresher
Thanks!
Great demo of correct footwork. This seems awkward initially but easy to practice inside. Also thank you for clearly demonstrating and explaining hitting ‘out in front’ . Now I know in front of hips, when requires using proper footwork to get there. Nice.
Glad it was helpful!
You two are a great match! You complement each other! Great content! Thank you!
We appreciate that!
Hi Briones and Caden, hello from the UK. Just a quick question, what is the playing service of your pickleball court you have used? We are looking to resurface a retired tennis court and thought we would ask the experts on what we should use to create good Pickleball surface. Thanks both for all the great Pickleball content. It is starting to get very popular here in the UK
A good tennis surface is perfect. Talk to a tennis surface company.
Another "basics" vid. Love it
Np !
I started moving my feet into positioning myself behind the ball at the optimal point of contact, about several months ago. That feet movement made a critical difference in improving my game!
Sweet!!
Extremely helpful video! I think I was probably initiating the shuffle on the wrong foot, AND I hit lots of balls that are not in front of me but off to either side. You gave me information I can start practicing at the next PB open play. Thanks so much!!
Np!!
Great video. Loved the competition at the end to really show off the theory.
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Coming from years of volleyball , shuffle steps, defense reading the court and movement were pretty easy to adapt for me. Once I got my wife playing I soon realized that it is not natural movement for most people early on in playing. Always enjoy your content. Thank you
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Excellent teaching.
Thank you
Glad you liked it!
TY - Footwork is fantastic to watch - good examples. Happy New Year & Ty for the Christmas Pic - Belated Merry Christmas to all your family.
Same to you!
until you mentioned inside leg moving 1st... i never thought about it... and sure enough,,, when i did it i was spreading from the outside 1st.... limiting my ability to do a second step if needed... also i could not get back to ready, fast enough.... Great Video... Thank you.... Vince
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Super! I shadow practice this a lot. It does take time to get this right, so practice these steps.
Great job!
Really great Video!! Thanks again guys, love the breakdown!
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Footwork! Footwork! Footwork! I think is the most important fundamental. Thanks for breaking it all down!
You bet !
Footwork no matter where is important on the court. Thanks excellent video as always
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Jordan, this information about the shuffle step movement at the NVZ line is great. Thank you so much. I’m wondering if we should use a similar shuffle at the baseline or other parts of the court?
You definitely can, yes . But it really depends on what you’re doing
Great teaching tips! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Caden showed this to us when he was here in Palm Creek. Very helpful!
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Great video, as always. Footwork always seems to be what separates the best from rest.
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Very good tip that should help cover the court thanks
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Good, good, stuff and detailed. Thanks men.
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic, as usual!
Thanks!
Great video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Well done and very helpful. Thanks
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Great video, very instructive.
Thx !
This is on my 2024 "to do" list! Thanks!
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Interesting as always! I do start with my trailing leg (i.e. right leg when going left) for lateral shuffles. I actually have little choice in the matter because I usually have a very wide stance (some tell me it's too wide) and it would be difficult and possibly painful to start with my leading foot.
For angle shuffles I pivot first by moving my leading leg to point where I want to go laterally, then just do a plain old shuffle from there (starting with my trailing leg as you recommend). I note that Caden is kinda doing that just before minute 16:00 in the video. Coming back to the line I reverse the process (shuffle then pivot back to the line).
But it seems to me you left out a useful movement. For example moving back and to the left in order to hit a forehand that would've otherwise gone slightly to the backhand side. My forehand dink (so far) is a bit more accurate and has a lot more topspin than my backhand dink so I favor it a little bit. In this case it's more a couple steps back than a shuffle but for me it seems to have elements of the shuffle as well (dragging feet for stability for example). Are you going to cover that in another video? Or is that something you just don't use (for example, because you'd rather take it with the backhand)?
I’d have to see a video to see what you mean
@@BrionesPickleball Oops. Nevermind. Once I got on the court I found that I always start the shuffle with my trailing leg (e.g. right leg when going left) regardless if I'm moving directly to the side or also backing up.
Love to see you in a competition on this platform.
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I could use help with my "eye work." If I take my eyes off the ball, then I usually don't get the focus back and will often whiff. But I want to know where my opponents are so that I can a better decision on where to place the ball. Please consider a video on this topic.
Thanks!
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Always like your coaching methods❤ Very helpful😊😊 Thank you very much❤
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come.
Thanks this really helps me.
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Great stuff! I’m drilling this tomorrow!
Rock on!
One aspect of the shuffle step that you didn’t cover, but do routinely, is the toe/instep drag of the trailing foot. I find that this helps me stop my sideward or angled momentum (depending on what shot I’m executing) and provides a stable base for a speedup or recovery for the next dink. Really good video. Thanks!
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Agree; and I think the drag gets you closer to the ball without taking an extra step. Seems to wear out the shoes faster!
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Love this video. Should be day 1 of learning pickleball. Most important. How to move .
Thanks!
Nice work, JB. I need to drill this, slowly at first, until it becomes automatic. Starting at about 5:35 you talked about the need to keep the head steady. Do you have any suggestions on how to drill that? Thanks.
Just like we did here. Maybe practice this on a wall, and look at once spot on the wall while moving your feet 🦶
Really helpful!!! Thanks
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Thanks for the great video
Np !
Thank you. I injured my knee at Pickleball recently and hope that working on this will help reduce the chance of injuring it again
👍🏻 get better soon !
Use this step all the time 😊
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kuya where can I buy that pickleball top spin trainer? excellent video
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I'm so grateful for this video. Timely!!! Thank you!
You are so welcome!
@@BrionesPickleball OK, I drilled this with two different people today. One was a 3.5 gal who just minutes before was popping up quite a bit while dinking with her 4.0 son. When I taught her the foot work lesson, it was a huge game changer. No more popups and she was able to place her shots. I also taught the lesson to a young man who is trying to get to the 4.0 level. He just naturally can get everything but with arms way out and feet way in. This drill was harder for him and it was frustrating for him to make the changes in games but he understands the benefit. As for me, huge game changer to be more aware of my feet.... not only in my dinking but also everywhere else on the court. I was far more accurate and intentional. Thank you so much!
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Good information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I've been trying to improve my footwork for a while . I do OK drilling and slower play but haven't ingrained it for fast play yet.
Keep working at it!
What about moving forward to get to a dink close to the net? Thanks.
Not sure what you mean
Thank you for this video..
Np!
Great vid. Do you have any vids in your series that discusses and shows team movement , team strategy in relation to each others body position on the court, post third shot (from serving) movement as a team? I haven't found anyone really talking court position and movement relative to each other during different situations off the NVZ. For example, as soon as you see a return of serve going to your partner some say rip to the NVZ line, others say observe and move based on the type of 3rd shot your partner hits, if they hit too high of a drop and your going to get smacked, if you rushed to the line , now you have to back up fast to a def. position off the NVZ line. This is the kind of movement mechanics im talking about, should the serving team stay relatively in line with each other as they make their way to the NVZ line..... that kind of discussion. Moving forward and backing up as a team.Thanks
Thanks. We have several point breakdowns that discuss these. Check those out first
You said to start with the inside food to initiate the shuffle step but in all the example videos the pros initiated the movement with the outside foot?
No. Watch it again
@@BrionesPickleball okie dokie
I will
Excellent! I've been starting with the wrong foot. Never would of known. Thanks for this. Hey, what is that tripod ball holder you were using?
The gamma cart ?
Cannot find any tripod device by Gamma, even on their website.@@BrionesPickleball
Found it...TopspinPro Pickleball Training Aid.
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I thought you meant something else. Great!
If you don't have a partner or a ball machine do you have a suggested routine that you can do at home?
Maybe against a wall, or you can just practice this footwork without even hitting the ball
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think a good rule to follow is the 4 step process:
1. Can I attack the ball out of the air
2. If I can’t attack attack it out of the air, can I take it as a dink out of the air
3. If I can’t take it as a dink out of the air, I’m going to let the ball bounce, apex and then hit the ball (While moving my feet)
4. Short hop or half volley
Everything is very situational obviously, such as step 1 and 2 I might choose to dink out of air instead of attack out of air, but moving our feet and not short hopping every single ball will allow us to generate more offence.
Yes
Suppose the opponent sends the ball close to the net then how do you move forward directly, or on either side. Is it the same shuffle and step that you have shown for going side to side and also slightly back?
I would just step in with one foot
@@BrionesPickleballAnd if it is away on either side close to the net?
I know this is on footwork but I also see people too upright - causing a miss hit. straight back, straight knees etc. You have to beat the ball by getting in position, then calm body/paddle, then hit - correct me if I'm wrong.
Beat the ball - I like it !
Imitate Ben Johns! His footwork is the calmest and most efficient I've seen.
caden do you never use topspin on your backhand dinks when you volley? I feel like i only see you do it off the bounce. is that intentional or am i reading too much into the small sample i see
He will use topspin at times, but it’s much easier off of the bounce.
Caden's touch is so good he can't do the wrong thing even when asked to
No, he just doesn’t know
How to follow directions 🤣
I would refer to it as a hop and shuffle
Ok
As a dance teacher of 25 years, I have shuffle steps and lunges down. Sadly, the friends I play with haven't yet realized the importance of great nvz footwork and, also, split steps.👍🏼
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if you have to move as fast as possible, is it really still optimal to shuffle this way rather than use the front foot and hop?
Yes
@@BrionesPickleball you guys are the best
Drilling is not hard and many players still do not like to do it. Good instruction.
Thanks !
Is this an older video or are you back to playing with the Halo paddle again? I have a hard time giving up mine :)
👍🏻 love the Halo, using the Luxx now
Trying to get my brain wrapped around this. Feels very unnatural to move left to move right!! You two make it look so easy!
You can do it!
@@BrionesPickleball Thanks Jordan. Miss our training sessions! ?? as I watch you and Caden dinking. Do you feel a dink that drops close to the net, forcing opponent low and close to net (unattackable) or a longer dink to the NVZ line is better??
Dude LA Gear!! Didn't even know they were still around haha
lol
With the drill at the end be more realistic if done cross court instead of straight ahead since the majority of dinks are cross court? Also, it seems you have to shuffle more when drinking cross court because of the angles you have to cover.
Yes you can do either or.
What gear is Caden wearing
Selkirk shorts, Selkirk shirt and a hat lol
Thx lol
Guys, as a strength & conditioning coach, your kind of shuffle is the kind of lateral shuffle we teach our athletes to avoid.
Let's say you're shuffle to the right, you push with your trail foot (left foot) not pulling with your lead foot (right foot). The reason is because, when you push you engage all your powerhouse muscles (calf, quads, and glutes) together to propel you to your direction. However, when you pull, you're using you inner thigh, which is supposed to be you knee stabilizer to, to pull your whole weight to your direction with speed. That's not the duty of a stabilizer. Simply put you're using the wrong muscle group to do the work.
This is not new. There was a lot of cases reported on adductor injuries and groin pain in basketball players because of this movement which is exactly the reason why nowadays if you consult with any s&c coach or athletic performance coach, they'll say the same thing. A shuffle is a push motion from a trail leg, not a pull motion from the lead leg.
Lol. Push/pull however you want to say it, what we show here is the correct way to move on the pickleball court. I’ve coached hundreds of players and haven’t see one get injured due to moving this way.
If I “tell” people to push off their trailing foot, they will get this movement wrong every single time. Sometimes they need to hear something that actually translates to the action. So push/pull, use whatever you want to use, either way, pro players and high level players all move the same way
Shouldn't you actually lead with a small split step first
Not sure what you mean here
For the shuffle step, please explain WHY you pull with the lead foot first, instead of pushing off with the trailing foot.
It seems way way faster for me to push off with the trailing foot.
What is the reason for doing it the way that you show?
We have stated this in several videos. But if you move your “outside” foot first, you will not get as far OR you will end up taking more than one shuffle step which is less efficient. Go ahead and try it.
It sounds like you are doing it right pushing off with trailing foot. Moving right, left foot moves first. Moving left, right foot moves first. Doing it opposite just does not work at all.
Yeah. This maneuver is really hard to describe in words. I slowed the video down just to make sure I saw it properly.
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Interesting...as defensive slides in basketball are taught the opposite way
If you move to the right shouldn't you step with your right foot first? Now you have to take two steps to move the position of your body instead of just one. As explained here ruclips.net/video/qk0h6p6vGtU/видео.html
No. If you watch the video, you’ll understand.
👍Now do a similar drill with drives, not dinks.
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Actually just targeted my need to improve footwork. This was very helpful.
Right?
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@@BrionesPickleball - Do I really need to explain again?
No, great clear explanation
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You forgot to cover the cross step
No we didn’t, I mentioned that we weren’t covering that in this video
I could use help with my "eye work." If I take my eyes off the ball, then I usually don't get the focus back and will often whiff. But I want to know where my opponents are so that I can a better decision on where to place the ball. Please consider a video on this topic.
Thanks!
Great video!
Thanks! Stay tuned for more.