Hi there HeY DeVuH long time no see though how are you doing bro my I m speechless you did your work absolutely great and i m so proud of your work you know see you in RE 4 in 2023 mate just to say I been watching you for 4 years I wish you all the best as well take care of your loved ones cheers.😁😁😁😁
One thing I hate about what they did in RE Village is the time jump on the ending, that makes every original character like Chris to be a lot older now on the next installment, Chris could be 50+ years old by RE9, so was Leon and Jill.
Yeah that's a huge time lapse between, I really thought we were going to have Rose star in Resident Evil 9 but I guess we'll have a new character or maybe a returning one.
@@HeYDeVuH Hopefully it's between Claire, Jill, Barry, Rebecca, or Carlos we don't even know what what happened to most of them after RE7 & 8 unless they have plans of doing a 3rd Revelations game.
Alot of people kinda misunderstood the whole reason why chris put Ethan in the situation that he was in. It's clear that hes been through enough since he almost lost his jill, lost his men and piers. Hes very much hardened come the events of village which could possibly be why he did what he did in village.
He did exactly what Ada Wong did to Leon in RE4, he used Ethan as bait to further lure Miranda and her scheme out to its full maturity. Just like Leon did for Ada, kidnapping Ashley meant that once Saddler was on the playing field, so too was the Sample that Ada needed. This made Ada’s mission substantially easier because she didn’t have to actively target Saddler, Leon’s mission to save Ashley did most of her wet work. Just like using Ethan to reveal Miranda put Miranda’s plan into motion so Chris could finally uncover the Mutamycete’s origin. The Winter’s saga is only the subplot, the real villains are the conspirators who sent the BSAA packing with BOWs, which is most likely the connections, who also funded the Dulvey Incident and Miranda’s experiments. Again the same thing in RE4! As it was Ada’s Organization (the Connections) who used Wesker and Krauser kidnapped Ashley for Los Illuminados, putting the whole plot into motion allowing Saddler to think they were fulfilling their own plot. When in actuality, the entire scheme was made just to get Los Plagas, the Sample, finally up for grabs after being rumored for so long.
@Cryo-Mancer It’s hilarious how people are constantly defending Chris’ actions because he’s “hardened now” and “he’s lost people”.....boo fucking hoo. At least he didn’t spend two years as Wesker’s puppet. Seriously I hope this doesn’t mean Capcom’s gonna turn Jill into a brooding asshole too...assuming she even returns. Also see a lot of “Chris has been on this incredible journey that’s turned him into a multilayered character”.....have I been playing the wrong games cuz I see none of this. Seems like the same belligerent and reckless moron who never learns a damn thing that we’ve been seeing since RE6 to me. Oh but “I tried to save him” guess we’re just supposed to feel sorry for Chris again.
@Cryo-Mancer You’re absolutely right, while Chris and Ada handled their pawns entirely different. Ada who arguably handled Leon better. There’s no denying both played an anti-heroine role, were operating on a rogue modus operandi, as well as narrated the overall plot because they were well informed. Where it diverges is tone, Village being a darker story apart from the original 4 that was overall more light-hearted. Both stories still ends on the ambiguity of bioterrorism and conspiracy around it. Ada, always informed, sets off in the sun with Los Plagas self-assured, while Chris, always facing deceit, is left again with a trail to follow.
@Cryo-Mancer In Marvel vs Capcom it’s Chris’ fault Spider-Man is infected by the symbiotie (is that the word)Even in an alternative universe, he’s still a colossal fuck up 😬 suppose you gotta give them points for consistency though...
What some people aren't seeing is that both instances that Chris and Ethan interacted before he tells Ethan were high stakes moments. Ethan wouldn't have believed right after seeing his wife killed right in front of him and they were attacked right after they ran into each other the second time. After Chris took him down during their 3rd in game meeting, Chris tells Ethan. The only thing that was distracting Chris at that point was him fixing the tank. Chris has massive trust issues and has to be 100% sure before he says anything. Chris should have told Ethan, but there was no realistic point before he actually did tell him. He regrets it because Ethan wasn't being controlled, but he still could not be sure with the events of the game
Yeah lots of factors played into what transpired within these two games. Also great point of Chris being very wary of those around him, especially with his decorated past of dealing with a significant traitor, Wesker.
@@HeYDeVuH Wesker, Irons, and Jessica all betrayed him. Him being wary makes sense. I'm not saying that his decisions were right, but I don't think he should be shamed for thinking in a logical way. We as players know the situation, but there is no logical reason for him to think the same way
@Gibram R I also defend Leon and Jill. I said that Chris made mistakes, but there's a reason for it. Leon trusts Ada and Helena, even though they both commit crimes. Jill is also one of the founders of the BSAA and is probably being used to strengthen the BOWs, since she has antibodies. What makes these characters great are their flaws and none of them deserve to be shamed
@Gibram R Leon is a completely different person each game, the only thing he keeps is him being a womanizer. Jill ends up being a damsel in distress in some of her games or is being sexualized. This is war, casualties happen in war. Dishonorably discharged from the air force, is an orphan, was betrayed by people who he trusted, was nearly killed multiple times by one of those people, the organization he is working for became corrupt... He has dealt with consequences, just like every other character. The only time he got his team killed was in 6 with the snake, every other time his teammates die is because of their actions (Piers while fighting Haos, Ethan was dead since the beginning of 7)
@Gibram R Did Leon? Does anyone deal with the consequences on screen? Because of Hunnigan, Leon also gets away with everything. Yes, Simmons was the one that caused the outbreak in Tall Oaks, but Leon was still able to use a commercial flight with no issues... And he crashes everything he drives. The characters do things and get away with it... Like every other game
It's should be noted that that warning letter to Chris was actually secretly sent to Zoe by Chris, telling her on the back of the letter "It's not over". He knew Zoe had been investigating the BSAA, and this letter was more than likely to recruit her help/warn her.
The solider was right. Chris should've told Ethan what was going on or at least some cliff notes. That's not your wife. You could be infected so take your kid and come with us. I mean with recent events, he probably would've listened to Chris. And with Rose begin a baby, he isn't just going to run after Maranda just to save his wife.
In the end what happened in game was probably what was best for him he got to save his family and that's all that matters to him But then he comes back anyway
It should also be noted that the BSAA knew about Eveline 3 months before the failed raid, implying that something else was going on. Hopefully by the Shadow of Rose DLC whatever was going on was resolved by Chris and the other founding members of the BSAA. But we won’t know anything at least until the dlc drops. Hopefully we’ll also get one for Chris and the aftermath of the village incident.
Yeah it just goes to show how much shady dealings they've been doing in the background. I really hope we get some resolution to this and see how this will play out in future RE games
Or more realistically it’s playing on how real life government officials are handled where just because you find some thing out doesn’t mean the very next day it’s like a movie where they send the members in to investigate. Look at things like mafia Rico cases in real life where the FBI will sit on that information for months until it suits their purpose better to do the raid for the news and publicity. You’d be shocked that stuff happens in real life all the time with the government agencies
@@Faceplay2 Possibly, but this is Resident Evil. Things aren't exactly realistic in this universe. But a third opinion is it could be a combination of both, someone looking to hide something as well as playing on how real life government officials handle things. Again we won't know until Capcom clarafies further. Unfortunately the Shadow of Rose dlc doesn't really get into the situation at the BSAA, so hopefully we will get another focused on Chris and his perspective for more information.
@@thunderstudent Yes the games are very over-the-top but I just meant not only for publicity but think logically just because of any incident being known the federal government is going to further investigate before they send agents in to go arrest or kill people. Just because someone learns of some thing that could be a rumor third-party information before you go and guns blazing sending helicopters and you’re gonna wanna do more research especially when it’s not an obvious zombie outbreak with people walking around biting people.
BSAA sadly isn’t the first entity that was formed to fight against BOWs that got corrupted. I feel like The Family has something to do with that since Leon, Helena and Ada got rid of Simmons. I think they probably had ppl at place in both DSO and BSAA but are now not willing to risk it with DSO. I do like that Chris’ team called him out on the mistake of not telling Ethan bc that was something that pissed me off the entire game.
You know, it's really funny how RE6 basically says that the entire US govt is controlled by a secret illuminati esque organization and the subsequent games just kind of dropped that.
@@grahamcarpenter5135 no. A specific operation under the government os controlled. And it was more a person pretending to be someone’s friend for year in order to influence his decisions.
DSO? That's a secret government organization called "The sword of the president," which only has the best of the best, the elites. It's difficult to place spies in a literall government organization owned by the president. The BSAA is a private non-profit anti terrorism organization, financially sustained by the US government after the fall of the FBC. The organization was the first corrupted, now the BSAA. Who is next?
I love how everyone has ignored the fact that Mia knew and still had a child with him. She went Full Hojo. She never really apologized for what she did to Eveline. She never regretted being apart of that experiment.
Makes me wonder who in the BSAA turned it corrupt or who changed it and treating Rosemary the same way Sherry was . The part where the BSAA soldiers look like small tyrants gives me the suspicions that Chris either didn't know or was against using them as soldiers in the field. Or they could be controllable zombies. The sad part with Ethan is that he figured out after defeating Mother Miranda his body was dying due to it's connection to the Mold.
The whole point of the T-Virus was to weaponize and sell it, so it makes sense that a company like the BSAA would put it to use on (potentially) willing soldiers. They more than likely learn to create a way for the virus to work with the the hosts body instead of trying to take it over.
Another question that I have is where is Jill in all of this mess with the BSAA? I know she was also one of the founding members of the BSAA and its strange that she has not been talked about in the series for awhile now.
It was stated in a note in revelations 2 that Jill was undergoing treatment for the virus she had and all that testing that Wesker did to her. In the note she did want to get back to duty, but had to complete rehabilitation first. But, that was YEARS ago. It might be safe to assume that she is working for another company like Terrasave, or she is working for another branch within the BSAA.
Jill is affiliated with an organization that advises countries for defense against BOW. However, it's not specifically stated if it's external to BSAA or a branch in the BSAA. I do think that it's more likely that due to her condition, she was congedated by the BSAA, and now works for someone else, hence why she hasn't been mentioned at all.
I think they can play it off that Chris wasn't sure whose on what side. The tensions between Chris and the BSAA and the uneasy relationship with Blue Umbrella. Chris probably closed off his circle and played everything close to the chest. Either it was out of protection for the Winters or because he wasn't sure which side is the right one. A bit of identity crises.
Man takes me back to Revelations one you remember the shaky start between FBC and BSAA the conspiracy surrounding them and of course we remember that the BSAA absorb the assets of the FBC to turn in into the powerhouse of modern BSAA seems the corruption was rigged at the start
Chris was back in BSAA during the ending epilogue though so its more like BSAA themselves sent Chris to do an internal investigation of their organization. Since there has been rats in their services before, (REV2).
Chris should've known that Ethan wasn't against him after taking down the giant fuck you dragon, I'm pretty sure nobody could've missed that loud mouth dieing. Also in the beginning he doesn't have a possible threat that he trained/had trained tied up. If Ethan could've been compromised wouldn't it make sense to at least cuff him
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Really long. I think Chris should have told Ethan what was going on. I know many people say that Chris did not want to endanger any more people than necessary especially since he lost so many friends, and he is a hardened veteran, but if he had been tracking Miranda for three years, I think he would have a general idea of where she was or where the mold strain originated from. So having Ethan posted/living near the main lead of Miranda put Ethan in enough danger as is and him being knowledgeable about the situation even if on a need-to-know basis he could have acted differently instead of feeling alone and like he needed to be the one to save Rose by himself since Chris' actions led him to believe no one else could be trusted. I think Chris struggled with whether or not to tell Ethan, not that it was a final decision for him, he states that he didn't expect Miranda to move so soon, so I think he intended to tell him at some point. There is also the idea that Ethan being in on it all could have tipped off Miranda, but seriously that is a weak argument for me, the Winters' protection should have been above that. If Chris is working mostly apart from the BSAA and Blue Umbrella his investigation into Miranda could have been stalled due to lack of funding which is why he was behind in his intents to act swiftly to protect the Winters'. So, from this I have a little theory; Chris' work in easter Europe was hindered by the BSAA who since they are using BOW's, could have been trying to preserve the mold to some extent to try and make use of it. As they seem to be making use of Rose. Perhaps Chris may not be directly present in her life later on in a similar way that Leon and Sherry were separated after the RC incident. Sherry and Rose have both been exposed and bonded with a dangerous BOW's strain that government agencies strictly monitor and make use of them in exchange for a bit of freedom. Perhaps Chris has been persuaded into missions in order to secure Rose's safety or perhaps he has gone off on his own, if the BSAA might have made it clear to him that they were not working towards the same goals. (Side part to this theory) in a video by @Evil Blitz 'The Leaked Resident Evil game no one is talking about' he theorizes that Hunk and Chris could at some point possibly be working together. I do agree with some that it would seem a bit off for the Grim Reaper to care about a team-up but what if.(?) He could have been burned by the company that he was deathly loyal too, perhaps something happened after Umbrella finally fell, he could have been recruited for his expertise and skills. Listen at 17:24. If Hunk was recruited to Wolf Hound squad, I think this sounds like him. This is a far fetch, but I think it would be interesting. Two of my favorite RE guys kicking butt together would make me so happy. (This part of my theory is bases on a theory that isn't anything confirmed so don't attack me, I'm just fangirling." Great video as always.
@@jackjax7921 Yeah, I think Chris mentioned that he was concerned about something like that. I guess he didn't have time to check it out, so it makes sense he didn't share plans with Ethan.
Maybe the in-universe explanation for how Chris seems to have become super human (looking at you, boulder chan) is that the BSAA has been secretly injecting him with experimental super soldier serums.
yeah i noticed something different about chris he can boulder punch i thought it was just a dumb micheal bay action stuff but the lore says bsaa does secretly use injections than steroids
I think it’s in the name Redfield. Claire and Chris were both orphaned right? Instead of biologically altering children, like Albert, the Wesker program. What if Umbrella left a sibling bloodline alone, chosen by natural selection, orphaning children from normal upbringing, as if creating a controlled environment. I think the Redfield’s were chosen for their natural traits to secretly test Umbrella’s experiments against the pique of human nature, to not only perfect humanity. But the perfect virus that Chris nor Claire finally cannot stop. I don’t think it’s coincidence at all that the Redfield’s both individually obliterated a Wesker sibling. It seems very much as if Umbrella wanted the two families to rival one another.
Yeah, I got HYDRA vibes from that Tyrant revelation. When you think about it, the Connections could lean on the BSAA to give them info, samples, and combat data about BOWs in the field; slowly using their influence to worm their way into the BSAA
"what mistakes did Chris made?" litterally keeping Ethan from knowing what's going on, that's the major mistake he made Edit: OK guys, can we NOT fight in the comments about who's better between Leon and Chris?
17:15 EXACTLY! There’s no excuse to why he couldn’t just talk to Ethan especially after the shit he went through and still came out on top at the end. He really should’ve rolled the dice and told Ethan, at least then the chances of Rosa growing up without a father would be slimmed down.
He didn't even need to let Ethan into it completely, just tell him that Mia was an impostor and that they needed to check Ethan and Rose, and that it'd make sense eventually. Instead, Chris breaks into Ethan's home and shoots who Ethan thought was his wife, then just stares at him and says "Ethan, no" before knocking him out.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 that’s what I was referring to, at the very least he could’ve just tell the man exactly what you said. I’m surprised I haven’t seen any form of grudge against Chris from Rose, but more than likely he said Ethan sacrificed himself for her. Only God themselves can imagine what would happen if Rose knew the FULL story. (Talking about the “Shadows of Rose” DLC)
No, Ethan is a mold being, not simply infected, if Miranda dies, he dies. Ethan is gone no matter what, unless Miranda suddenly turns into good guy or Rose suddenly grows up and learns to control mold.
Alright, so finally watching this video (apparently I missed it when it came out). My feelings on Chris (and really Village in general) is that while it was a wonderful game, they did Chris dirty in this one. Chris is normally seen to be a bull in a China shop, but never necessarily dumb. However, in the span of one game, he kills Ethan Winters, destroys Mia Winters’ relationship with her daughter, and forces Rose to live with powers that ostracize her from society…all because he didn’t want to tell Ethan the truth? On top of that, performing a raid on his house where they kill Miranda and transport them together…? It just seems like sloppy writing to make Chris be that much of an idiot that he pulls the “I only lied to protect you” cliche from trashy WB shows and soap operas. 😂. And then they do all of that build-up with the BSAA…only to time-jump over a decade later to a different story altogether? Why? Why not just save older Rose for 9 or 9’s epilogue and stick to that new story branch with the BSAA for 9? It was just clumsy IMO.
It's almost like resident evil is going to come to umbrella blue against umbrella red because in resident evil 4 it was revealed the evil umbrella was still active
Imagine if Chris' team has a mole that is working for, hear me out, wesker who is building umbrella back up and working behind the scenes again due to his injuries from the volcano in 5
Wesker is dead. The lava was already destroying him before the two RPG rounds took his head off, and detonated in the lava behind him, resulting in a combination of explosives and molten lava that destroyed what was left of his body.
It almost seems like the BSAA is starting to become the next FBC, albeit with only one difference: no collaborating with terrorists. On top of that, he should've been able to retire after the events of game 6, but Piers (RIP) didn't want him to; the losses (near or otherwise) he witnessed were too much for him. I know his only blood-relation is his sister Claire, but he and Jill should've tied the knot and had a family if it were possible; Chris' heart needs time to heal.
22:00 also there is no way the BSAA didn’t know about Ethan been a moulded as they would have done a whole battery of tests on both him and Mia to make sure that they weren’t carrying any BOW infections, you can’t look at Ethan’s DNA and go “”yep he looks fine”” so at the very least 2 people at the BSAA must have known. Maybe this was the key to them making whatever the new soldiers they were using, maybe it was Ethan’s DNA that made it possible, I’m thinking it had to be something quite new or you think Chris would have found it sooner.
I have to say from an outside perspective but Ethan would've picked Mia anyway...you don't just go after your wife after hearing from her after three years and then not choose your wife at that point
What puzzles me is that Ethan doesn't seem to suffer any trauma after Mia attacked him in the house and even cut off his hand. Sure, she wasn't in her right self, but you would think Ethan would suffer nightmares or PTSD for staying anywhere close to Mia.
BSAA was founded with purpose, but like every great organization there is always nefarious temptation. Chris is noticing this, and he has every right to doubt them. Like the FBC, I can see the BSAA falling to this temptation after their use of bioweapons which goes completely against their fight against the usage and creation of bioweapons.
I think Rose simply aged faster. I doubt the ending is actually 16 years into the future because over half of the RE characters (bar Sherry, Rose, & Moria) would be too old physically to continue. Claire MIGHT can still keep up in a military environment being younger than Chris, Leon, Helena, Barry, Rebecca, Hunk, Sheva, Ada, & Jill. Plus RE8 unless it takes place before the "16 years" in another location, Sherry, Rose, or Moria stared wouldn't sell as much as the well known and loved cast. Maybe Jake being a bit enhanced via the genetic lottery, he can go to but I'm not sure he could sell RE9
The game literally says it’s 16 years later. There’s no faster aging going on. Some kids are just bigger than others but level out in their teen years. I have a friend who’s niece is 3 but is wearing clothes for kids who are twice her age.
Except Claire wants nothing to do with that kind of role. Yes, she's a fighter, but she's more of an environmental activist and journalist than a soldier like the others
Now since Chris is with Blue Umbrella, a reformed Umbrella Corp, and are in its special task force.. imagine if in the next RE.. He managed to track down and recruit the original Alpha Team's leader.. Hunk..
Kind of makes me wonder if Albert Wesker is behind all this. Yes I'm aware that he died in RE5 but it makes me wonder if he's truly dead or simply is still alive but in hiding for years after a long recovery (or in most cases a slow regeneration recovery).
I get that Chris was worried Ethan and Rose might be infected by Miranda and forcefully took them to make sure, but why was he worried NOW when Ethan had already been exposed to the mould in Louisiana first and made no attempt of a quarantine/running tests then? 😅
Yeah it's interesting that he still does and makes you wonder how this partnership is still on going. Also what does that mean with his affiliation with the BSAA then.
@@HeYDeVuH what if wesker is alive or possibly a clone or jake wesker became the next wesker or chris mentality have affected and relised he needs power to keep everyone safe or something i think thats his motivation the horror he went throught i remember reaident evil 2 files says that chris having anger issues after the mansion chief irons rejected and cover up for umbrella bcause chris has trusts issues and it did affected both horros and trusts
Anyone notice that in Resident evil Archives that there was an Ethan W. with Umbrella lvl 9 clearance i think he was special before RE 7 I think he worked for or was a test subject and when i looked up more it said that Wesker was suppose to kill him check it out.
Well it wasn’t really Chris that got Ethan killed as he died hours before Chris first met him, also based on the ending to RE8 Ethan May not be as dead as we thought.
Definitely am excited for RE9 as to see the BSAA’s corruption even from REE7 and RE8 we see the BSAA change from the organization that Chris founded to save humanity from these bio threats to know that same organization becoming what umbrella was
makes me wonder if the BSAA sent that Squad of B.O.W.s in during the events of RE8 to "collect battle data" kind of like how Umbrella sent their very special T103 Tyrants and Nemesis into Raccoon City to collect combat data on them. And honestly you just feel bad for Chris at this point, like dudes been through a shit ton.. I'd almost venture to say he's been through a hell of a lot more then the others with the exception of Leon and Claire.
It’s as if the BSAA adopted Umbrella’s tactics like in RE:Survivor by utilizing the Undertaker Units aka “trashsweepers” that was like the USS but intelligent tactically trained humanoid BOW’s that can be used and expended.
Yeah it's interesting how this relationship he has with the BSAA has devolve, I really hope we get to see the aftermath of all this and how Chris deals with it
Are we sure there wasn't a same situation like with what happened in Captain America The Winter Soldier, were SHIELD had Hydra members slowly infiltrate it for years. It's just a theory but the fact that the Operation was leaked, the collaboration with Blue Umbrella knowing Chris's history with them, Chris not trusting them, and the BSAA taking note of Chris's actions, it makes me wonder if this may be a possible reason why Chris became so secretive and slowly breaking away from the BSAA. But that's just me speculating.
After playing Village I was fully convinced Chris was a Villain for a time and kept asking myself what happened to the man at re5 who wanted to fight for a future without fear? Or the committed and empathetic Hero of re6, how he was with Ethan entering village had me wondering where he stood as a character and if all of this pain had finally turned him into a darth vader type, especially Rose DLC because of how the agents were treating her and how Rose was even bullied in her school setting. Especially my base knowledge was that Chris was the supossive Guardian figure for her. Now knowing it's the corrupted BSAA watching over her it all makes more sense, and now thanks to your video! I finally have my answer he is no Villain, he's a hero damaged by the greedy reality of Umbrella's BOW sellings and the constant pain and wars it brought... Than the very counter he made for their evil schemes themselves became the evil ones (BSAA)... His whole life he's spent trying to remove these yucky people to make the world a better place but in the process it all seems to be falling on his big "boulder punching shoulders"!
if you look at the BSAA body that chris team scooped up. right after Chris saves rose and Mia. it has its face!? 😮 you think it's possible they'll have chris super clones? under BSAA? 🤔 if you think I'm crazy go to artwork in village as well in the art collection. the BSAA agent has alternated face of chris.
If Miranda was one with the mold she would've know that Ethan was being taken away. In this case she let them take away Ethan and Rose so things could play out the way she wanted as far as I can see.
You don't hear this often but chris is by far my favorite character in RE franchise. I feel they did him dirty including him in the popular games like re5 and his call of duty campain in re6
So Lucas knew exactly what Evelyn was & exposed his family to her anyway, & my best guess that 3rd Party is The Tricell corporation...which is Umbrella under a different name.
@@joshuagraham2843 If you've seen The Movie Resident Evil Degeneration or Played RE4 The Umbrella Corporation is dissolved, & went underground. You'd have ask Hey DeVuH how the movie tries into The RE 7 & Village Canon.
All I know, is they send Chris in, and he comes back alive. Mistakes or not. He maybe lost all his men, but they weren't built like Chris. It even shows that he didn't want to lose anyone else by going in by himself.
Ethan Winters brought me from and made me fall in love with the series all over again. Still hurts that he's gone. Hopefully this struggle with Chris Boulder Punching Redfield it's enough to keep my attention to this series...... unless it goes all Michael Bay on us like 6. Then byeeeeee
I knew Chris, he's a character I have lots of respect for, I thought of him as selfless & would do whatever it took to keep people alive as much as possible. So when he went through the plan that, ultimately, got Ethan killed (being to gun down the entire 1st floor, taking Ethan's child away from him, not even hint at him at the very least of the situation & storing them all in the same truck with a bio weapon), I just couldn't accept that it was him (I still can't, this version of the character is just pain to me due to these feelings of inaccuracy that makes it difficult for me to believe). He's no Einstine, but he should be smart enough to of had a better plan. And not being consistent as to why he couldn't of said something to the guy before it got even worse (was there no time, was it the infection or was it cause Ethan shouldn't get involved? I, and some buddies of mine, chalk it up to bad writting). It does explain the partnership with the New Leaf Umbrella as I call them, a company Chris has relations towards in the past as the company of death. If he trusts THEM more then the org he help found, something is horribly wrong. All this shit is convoluted, contrived in parts like I mentioned, something isn't adding up & I usually come to a conclusion somehow, everything so far only makes me ask more questions then it does answer What is, supposedly was, the mold/megamycede (if they were the same thing, I tried understanding it as much as possible, i'm still confused by it)? Why is the BSAA covering up a mistake like they were the original Umbrella + why are they suspected in utilization in B.O.W.s, when its their job to take down the very thing they're doing? Is every BSAA agent behind in this? What else does Chris know that we don't? Too many questions, not many answers I could find or understand
@Cryo-Mancer honestly I wish I could laugh at that joke, but after what I had been through that's sadly not something i'd do much of (its all just too real, which is beyond sad at what the topic is about). I think he was a great character before RE7, RE6 maybe considering the way he was handled isn't great & particularly contrived. I wish that it was handled better, but it is what it is. As for him abondoning his sister before RE2, I don't exactly believe that. With how big Umbrella is & the fact he was going full bore into investigating umbrella, I always believed he had no choice if he didn't want to risk her safety, he was already waist deep into it & he didn't want her involved (how ironic, since its one of the excuses that he exclaimed in RE8 & it ultimately got Ethan killed). Taking her to europe doesn't exactly strike me as a fool proof plan, when its shown in CV that he's under surveillance by Umbrella (weather he knew or not may not of mattered, the Diary he left behind in RE2 seemed to of implied paranoia) & sending mail could be risky cause of how deep Umbrella's hand is in the City I respect you too, I do try making sure I have all the facts about Chris. this video was pretty informative though. I still think the way his character was handled in RE8 is unacceptable, but this video does help me understand just a bit on why. I prefer the facts, weather it commends or condems him.
Exactly it’s so frustrating when characters withhold information like that for no apparent reason. It takes away from their character bc it’s something they wouldn’t do, it’s a forced fault in judgement to have the plot of RE8. If Chris had filled Ethan in, I doubt Ethan would have resisted and he’d still be alive
Bro I feel so bad for Chris… the dude only ever loses but damn if he’s not resilient. Even when he tried divorcing himself from the job he lost Piers and before that, he’d lost countless comrades and even Jill at one point. I absolutely don’t blame his judgement with Ethan’s situation, even if it was underhanded. The man is going to die fighting for what is right and is likely the sole being keeping their world from falling to all out apocalypse. Leon and Jill are absolute heroes as well, but no one has lost as much as Chris. Jill is there too with the surviving STARS, though on screen Chris’s tragedies were far more on display
Chris from orig resident evil is very different from now. Played re 20yrs ago and re5 when it came out. Today after not playing anymore, i am surprised with the changes wtf
Poor Chris never catches a break. Also this was very lore heavy, loved it! The last game I didnt play but watched 7. It felt a bit confusing where the RE franchise was heading but it seems with 8 they wrapped that subplot and key information we needed to continue the over all main plot. I will say, now it makes sense why with Ethan we never really got to see his face. It was intentional because he was later meant to die and to show us /let us play a plot that didnt involve a main character but a character that also did not have much of import in the sense that he wouldn't be played for long. Everything is falling nicely into place. After 6, I can speak for all of us when I say we were all concern on the status of the RE franchise was heading to. Now it seems like they have a bigger scheme that was always present but took alot of scenarios to shape.
Dude we're still hanging with the revelations story. Albert's sister, I believe her name is Alex. Didn't she do something to that little girl that Berry took in. There was nothing about that storyline up until now and even after connecting the umbrella founder and RE4's special virus or whatever it was, with RE7&8. Basically connecting alot of things together. And yet the revelations storyline seems forgotten.... And the time leap in the ending of RE8/Rose shadow dlc story kind of makes me think they've completely scrapped any intentions of continuing revelation story or at least giving any kind of closure :(
after the events of 8, anyone get the vibe that 7 chris is a bsaa battle clone? he 1 looks hella young and 2 is too laid back and willing to accept orders.
How should have Chris handled all the obstacles in front of him in the last couple of Resident Evil games....Besides Punching Boulders...
Gladly
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Ok but how does punching boulders NOT help?
By hooking up with Jill and settling down.
Could have told Ethan the truth.
One thing I hate about what they did in RE Village is the time jump on the ending, that makes every original character like Chris to be a lot older now on the next installment, Chris could be 50+ years old by RE9, so was Leon and Jill.
Yeah that's a huge time lapse between, I really thought we were going to have Rose star in Resident Evil 9 but I guess we'll have a new character or maybe a returning one.
@@HeYDeVuH Hopefully it's between Claire, Jill, Barry, Rebecca, or Carlos we don't even know what what happened to most of them after RE7 & 8 unless they have plans of doing a 3rd Revelations game.
People have speculated that rose ages rapidly, like Evelyn, so the time skip might be a lot shorter than it seems
@@Narutou01 but the shadow of roses trailer states 16 years have passed, wish it was rapid aging though.
The timeskip is Just for Rose story, The Winters saga. The others characters story will progress normal
Alot of people kinda misunderstood the whole reason why chris put Ethan in the situation that he was in. It's clear that hes been through enough since he almost lost his jill, lost his men and piers. Hes very much hardened come the events of village which could possibly be why he did what he did in village.
That could be a reason why
He did exactly what Ada Wong did to Leon in RE4, he used Ethan as bait to further lure Miranda and her scheme out to its full maturity.
Just like Leon did for Ada, kidnapping Ashley meant that once Saddler was on the playing field, so too was the Sample that Ada needed.
This made Ada’s mission substantially easier because she didn’t have to actively target Saddler, Leon’s mission to save Ashley did most of her wet work.
Just like using Ethan to reveal Miranda put Miranda’s plan into motion so Chris could finally uncover the Mutamycete’s origin.
The Winter’s saga is only the subplot, the real villains are the conspirators who sent the BSAA packing with BOWs, which is most likely the connections, who also funded the Dulvey Incident and Miranda’s experiments.
Again the same thing in RE4! As it was Ada’s Organization (the Connections) who used Wesker and Krauser kidnapped Ashley for Los Illuminados, putting the whole plot into motion allowing Saddler to think they were fulfilling their own plot. When in actuality, the entire scheme was made just to get Los Plagas, the Sample, finally up for grabs after being rumored for so long.
@Cryo-Mancer It’s hilarious how people are constantly defending Chris’ actions because he’s “hardened now” and “he’s lost people”.....boo fucking hoo. At least he didn’t spend two years as Wesker’s puppet. Seriously I hope this doesn’t mean Capcom’s gonna turn Jill into a brooding asshole too...assuming she even returns.
Also see a lot of “Chris has been on this incredible journey that’s turned him into a multilayered character”.....have I been playing the wrong games cuz I see none of this. Seems like the same belligerent and reckless moron who never learns a damn thing that we’ve been seeing since RE6 to me.
Oh but “I tried to save him” guess we’re just supposed to feel sorry for Chris again.
@Cryo-Mancer You’re absolutely right, while Chris and Ada handled their pawns entirely different. Ada who arguably handled Leon better.
There’s no denying both played an anti-heroine role, were operating on a rogue modus operandi, as well as narrated the overall plot because they were well informed.
Where it diverges is tone, Village being a darker story apart from the original 4 that was overall more light-hearted.
Both stories still ends on the ambiguity of bioterrorism and conspiracy around it.
Ada, always informed, sets off in the sun with Los Plagas self-assured, while Chris, always facing deceit, is left again with a trail to follow.
@Cryo-Mancer In Marvel vs Capcom it’s Chris’ fault Spider-Man is infected by the symbiotie (is that the word)Even in an alternative universe, he’s still a colossal fuck up 😬 suppose you gotta give them points for consistency though...
What some people aren't seeing is that both instances that Chris and Ethan interacted before he tells Ethan were high stakes moments. Ethan wouldn't have believed right after seeing his wife killed right in front of him and they were attacked right after they ran into each other the second time. After Chris took him down during their 3rd in game meeting, Chris tells Ethan. The only thing that was distracting Chris at that point was him fixing the tank. Chris has massive trust issues and has to be 100% sure before he says anything. Chris should have told Ethan, but there was no realistic point before he actually did tell him. He regrets it because Ethan wasn't being controlled, but he still could not be sure with the events of the game
Yeah lots of factors played into what transpired within these two games. Also great point of Chris being very wary of those around him, especially with his decorated past of dealing with a significant traitor, Wesker.
@@HeYDeVuH Wesker, Irons, and Jessica all betrayed him. Him being wary makes sense. I'm not saying that his decisions were right, but I don't think he should be shamed for thinking in a logical way. We as players know the situation, but there is no logical reason for him to think the same way
@Gibram R I also defend Leon and Jill. I said that Chris made mistakes, but there's a reason for it. Leon trusts Ada and Helena, even though they both commit crimes. Jill is also one of the founders of the BSAA and is probably being used to strengthen the BOWs, since she has antibodies. What makes these characters great are their flaws and none of them deserve to be shamed
@Gibram R Leon is a completely different person each game, the only thing he keeps is him being a womanizer. Jill ends up being a damsel in distress in some of her games or is being sexualized. This is war, casualties happen in war. Dishonorably discharged from the air force, is an orphan, was betrayed by people who he trusted, was nearly killed multiple times by one of those people, the organization he is working for became corrupt... He has dealt with consequences, just like every other character. The only time he got his team killed was in 6 with the snake, every other time his teammates die is because of their actions (Piers while fighting Haos, Ethan was dead since the beginning of 7)
@Gibram R Did Leon? Does anyone deal with the consequences on screen? Because of Hunnigan, Leon also gets away with everything. Yes, Simmons was the one that caused the outbreak in Tall Oaks, but Leon was still able to use a commercial flight with no issues... And he crashes everything he drives. The characters do things and get away with it... Like every other game
It's should be noted that that warning letter to Chris was actually secretly sent to Zoe by Chris, telling her on the back of the letter "It's not over". He knew Zoe had been investigating the BSAA, and this letter was more than likely to recruit her help/warn her.
The solider was right. Chris should've told Ethan what was going on or at least some cliff notes.
That's not your wife.
You could be infected so take your kid and come with us.
I mean with recent events, he probably would've listened to Chris.
And with Rose begin a baby, he isn't just going to run after Maranda just to save his wife.
In the end what happened in game was probably what was best for him he got to save his family and that's all that matters to him
But then he comes back anyway
It should also be noted that the BSAA knew about Eveline 3 months before the failed raid, implying that something else was going on. Hopefully by the Shadow of Rose DLC whatever was going on was resolved by Chris and the other founding members of the BSAA. But we won’t know anything at least until the dlc drops. Hopefully we’ll also get one for Chris and the aftermath of the village incident.
Yeah it just goes to show how much shady dealings they've been doing in the background. I really hope we get some resolution to this and see how this will play out in future RE games
Or more realistically it’s playing on how real life government officials are handled where just because you find some thing out doesn’t mean the very next day it’s like a movie where they send the members in to investigate.
Look at things like mafia Rico cases in real life where the FBI will sit on that information for months until it suits their purpose better to do the raid for the news and publicity. You’d be shocked that stuff happens in real life all the time with the government agencies
@@Faceplay2 Possibly, but this is Resident Evil. Things aren't exactly realistic in this universe. But a third opinion is it could be a combination of both, someone looking to hide something as well as playing on how real life government officials handle things. Again we won't know until Capcom clarafies further. Unfortunately the Shadow of Rose dlc doesn't really get into the situation at the BSAA, so hopefully we will get another focused on Chris and his perspective for more information.
@@thunderstudent Yes the games are very over-the-top but I just meant not only for publicity but think logically just because of any incident being known the federal government is going to further investigate before they send agents in to go arrest or kill people.
Just because someone learns of some thing that could be a rumor third-party information before you go and guns blazing sending helicopters and you’re gonna wanna do more research especially when it’s not an obvious zombie outbreak with people walking around biting people.
@@Faceplay2 True but RE definitely runs on movie and game logic. Again, hopefully we will receive clarification on it in future dlc and games.
BSAA sadly isn’t the first entity that was formed to fight against BOWs that got corrupted. I feel like The Family has something to do with that since Leon, Helena and Ada got rid of Simmons. I think they probably had ppl at place in both DSO and BSAA but are now not willing to risk it with DSO.
I do like that Chris’ team called him out on the mistake of not telling Ethan bc that was something that pissed me off the entire game.
You know, it's really funny how RE6 basically says that the entire US govt is controlled by a secret illuminati esque organization and the subsequent games just kind of dropped that.
@@grahamcarpenter5135 no. A specific operation under the government os controlled. And it was more a person pretending to be someone’s friend for year in order to influence his decisions.
DSO? That's a secret government organization called "The sword of the president," which only has the best of the best, the elites. It's difficult to place spies in a literall government organization owned by the president. The BSAA is a private non-profit anti terrorism organization, financially sustained by the US government after the fall of the FBC. The organization was the first corrupted, now the BSAA. Who is next?
I love how everyone has ignored the fact that Mia knew and still had a child with him. She went Full Hojo.
She never really apologized for what she did to Eveline. She never regretted being apart of that experiment.
the pills she's taking indicate otherwise though :/
Makes me wonder who in the BSAA turned it corrupt or who changed it and treating Rosemary the same way Sherry was . The part where the BSAA soldiers look like small tyrants gives me the suspicions that Chris either didn't know or was against using them as soldiers in the field. Or they could be controllable zombies. The sad part with Ethan is that he figured out after defeating Mother Miranda his body was dying due to it's connection to the Mold.
The whole point of the T-Virus was to weaponize and sell it, so it makes sense that a company like the BSAA would put it to use on (potentially) willing soldiers. They more than likely learn to create a way for the virus to work with the the hosts body instead of trying to take it over.
Another question that I have is where is Jill in all of this mess with the BSAA? I know she was also one of the founding members of the BSAA and its strange that she has not been talked about in the series for awhile now.
It was stated in a note in revelations 2 that Jill was undergoing treatment for the virus she had and all that testing that Wesker did to her. In the note she did want to get back to duty, but had to complete rehabilitation first. But, that was YEARS ago. It might be safe to assume that she is working for another company like Terrasave, or she is working for another branch within the BSAA.
Jill is affiliated with an organization that advises countries for defense against BOW. However, it's not specifically stated if it's external to BSAA or a branch in the BSAA. I do think that it's more likely that due to her condition, she was congedated by the BSAA, and now works for someone else, hence why she hasn't been mentioned at all.
I think they can play it off that Chris wasn't sure whose on what side. The tensions between Chris and the BSAA and the uneasy relationship with Blue Umbrella. Chris probably closed off his circle and played everything close to the chest. Either it was out of protection for the Winters or because he wasn't sure which side is the right one. A bit of identity crises.
Man takes me back to Revelations one you remember the shaky start between FBC and BSAA the conspiracy surrounding them and of course we remember that the BSAA absorb the assets of the FBC to turn in into the powerhouse of modern BSAA seems the corruption was rigged at the start
Chris was back in BSAA during the ending epilogue though
so its more like BSAA themselves sent Chris to do an internal investigation of their organization. Since there has been rats in their services before, (REV2).
Chris should've known that Ethan wasn't against him after taking down the giant fuck you dragon, I'm pretty sure nobody could've missed that loud mouth dieing.
Also in the beginning he doesn't have a possible threat that he trained/had trained tied up. If Ethan could've been compromised wouldn't it make sense to at least cuff him
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Man your lore videos continue to be pure fire. Really adds to the hype as I replay my way through 1-8 getting closer to Rose DLC!
Really long.
I think Chris should have told Ethan what was going on. I know many people say that Chris did not want to endanger any more people than necessary especially since he lost so many friends, and he is a hardened veteran, but if he had been tracking Miranda for three years, I think he would have a general idea of where she was or where the mold strain originated from. So having Ethan posted/living near the main lead of Miranda put Ethan in enough danger as is and him being knowledgeable about the situation even if on a need-to-know basis he could have acted differently instead of feeling alone and like he needed to be the one to save Rose by himself since Chris' actions led him to believe no one else could be trusted.
I think Chris struggled with whether or not to tell Ethan, not that it was a final decision for him, he states that he didn't expect Miranda to move so soon, so I think he intended to tell him at some point.
There is also the idea that Ethan being in on it all could have tipped off Miranda, but seriously that is a weak argument for me, the Winters' protection should have been above that.
If Chris is working mostly apart from the BSAA and Blue Umbrella his investigation into Miranda could have been stalled due to lack of funding which is why he was behind in his intents to act swiftly to protect the Winters'.
So, from this I have a little theory; Chris' work in easter Europe was hindered by the BSAA who since they are using BOW's, could have been trying to preserve the mold to some extent to try and make use of it. As they seem to be making use of Rose. Perhaps Chris may not be directly present in her life later on in a similar way that Leon and Sherry were separated after the RC incident. Sherry and Rose have both been exposed and bonded with a dangerous BOW's strain that government agencies strictly monitor and make use of them in exchange for a bit of freedom. Perhaps Chris has been persuaded into missions in order to secure Rose's safety or perhaps he has gone off on his own, if the BSAA might have made it clear to him that they were not working towards the same goals.
(Side part to this theory) in a video by @Evil Blitz 'The Leaked Resident Evil game no one is talking about' he theorizes that Hunk and Chris could at some point possibly be working together. I do agree with some that it would seem a bit off for the Grim Reaper to care about a team-up but what if.(?) He could have been burned by the company that he was deathly loyal too, perhaps something happened after Umbrella finally fell, he could have been recruited for his expertise and skills. Listen at 17:24. If Hunk was recruited to Wolf Hound squad, I think this sounds like him. This is a far fetch, but I think it would be interesting. Two of my favorite RE guys kicking butt together would make me so happy.
(This part of my theory is bases on a theory that isn't anything confirmed so don't attack me, I'm just fangirling."
Great video as always.
You dont understand the mold has a hive mind. Chris might think Mother Miranda can control Ethan.
@@jackjax7921 Yeah, I think Chris mentioned that he was concerned about something like that. I guess he didn't have time to check it out, so it makes sense he didn't share plans with Ethan.
Maybe the in-universe explanation for how Chris seems to have become super human (looking at you, boulder chan) is that the BSAA has been secretly injecting him with experimental super soldier serums.
yeah i noticed something different about chris
he can boulder punch
i thought it was just a dumb micheal bay action stuff but the lore says bsaa does secretly use injections than steroids
He's like 48 in RE7 isn't he?
I think it’s in the name Redfield. Claire and Chris were both orphaned right?
Instead of biologically altering children, like Albert, the Wesker program.
What if Umbrella left a sibling bloodline alone, chosen by natural selection, orphaning children from normal upbringing, as if creating a controlled environment.
I think the Redfield’s were chosen for their natural traits to secretly test Umbrella’s experiments against the pique of human nature, to not only perfect humanity. But the perfect virus that Chris nor Claire finally cannot stop.
I don’t think it’s coincidence at all that the Redfield’s both individually obliterated a Wesker sibling. It seems very much as if Umbrella wanted the two families to rival one another.
No. He's superhuman because of the experience, and training he went through.
Nothing special
Damm he's onto Chris ok i'll come clean Chris did it cuz he's Batman
Chris may soon realize The Connections has been in control of the BSAA for decades. Like Hydra was in control of SHIELD for that long in the MCU.
Yeah, I got HYDRA vibes from that Tyrant revelation. When you think about it, the Connections could lean on the BSAA to give them info, samples, and combat data about BOWs in the field; slowly using their influence to worm their way into the BSAA
Chris Boulder Punching Redfield.
In my voice Karl and Wesker voice that bolder punching azzhole Chrisssssssssssss
"That boulder punching a**hole."
Karl Heisenberg, RESIDENT EVIL VII.I.AGE
He also barely made out alive in resident evil 6
I need a rocket launcher
"what mistakes did Chris made?"
litterally keeping Ethan from knowing what's going on, that's the major mistake he made
Edit: OK guys, can we NOT fight in the comments about who's better between Leon and Chris?
RE6 anyone? 😂 How about Vendetta?
Don't blame Chris..blame the writers...
@@moodyowlproductions4287 true, they did him so dirty when normally he wouldn't be acting so mysterious and douchy
Ethan might have been controlled by Miranda. Chris doesnt know that. But you are a Leon fanboy.
@@jackjax7921... Why did you added Leon into that? He isn't even in the game
I hope we get to see Sheva again soon.
And Carlos, Lord knows what happened to him after RE3.
"I Always keep my promises"...Nice callback to RE Code Veronica. 🙆🏿🙆🏻♀️
"That Boulder punching asshole" 😄
It’s quite a funny Easter egg for Heisenberg to actually mention that with this line lmao 😂
17:15 EXACTLY! There’s no excuse to why he couldn’t just talk to Ethan especially after the shit he went through and still came out on top at the end. He really should’ve rolled the dice and told Ethan, at least then the chances of Rosa growing up without a father would be slimmed down.
He didn't even need to let Ethan into it completely, just tell him that Mia was an impostor and that they needed to check Ethan and Rose, and that it'd make sense eventually. Instead, Chris breaks into Ethan's home and shoots who Ethan thought was his wife, then just stares at him and says "Ethan, no" before knocking him out.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 that’s what I was referring to, at the very least he could’ve just tell the man exactly what you said.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen any form of grudge against Chris from Rose, but more than likely he said Ethan sacrificed himself for her. Only God themselves can imagine what would happen if Rose knew the FULL story. (Talking about the “Shadows of Rose” DLC)
No, Ethan is a mold being, not simply infected, if Miranda dies, he dies. Ethan is gone no matter what, unless Miranda suddenly turns into good guy or Rose suddenly grows up and learns to control mold.
@@elanlynn5973 ah I see...can we least agree that didn't had to die without being left in the dark by Chris like that until the last moment?
Alright, so finally watching this video (apparently I missed it when it came out).
My feelings on Chris (and really Village in general) is that while it was a wonderful game, they did Chris dirty in this one. Chris is normally seen to be a bull in a China shop, but never necessarily dumb. However, in the span of one game, he kills Ethan Winters, destroys Mia Winters’ relationship with her daughter, and forces Rose to live with powers that ostracize her from society…all because he didn’t want to tell Ethan the truth? On top of that, performing a raid on his house where they kill Miranda and transport them together…? It just seems like sloppy writing to make Chris be that much of an idiot that he pulls the “I only lied to protect you” cliche from trashy WB shows and soap operas. 😂. And then they do all of that build-up with the BSAA…only to time-jump over a decade later to a different story altogether? Why? Why not just save older Rose for 9 or 9’s epilogue and stick to that new story branch with the BSAA for 9? It was just clumsy IMO.
It's almost like resident evil is going to come to umbrella blue against umbrella red because in resident evil 4 it was revealed the evil umbrella was still active
That'd be a cool idea
Imagine if Chris' team has a mole that is working for, hear me out, wesker who is building umbrella back up and working behind the scenes again due to his injuries from the volcano in 5
That would be interesting to see play out and makes you wonder how Chris deals with that situation this time around
Wesker is dead. The lava was already destroying him before the two RPG rounds took his head off, and detonated in the lava behind him, resulting in a combination of explosives and molten lava that destroyed what was left of his body.
Your videos are getting better and better ! That was very interesting. I love to watch your videos before i go sleep haha
It's crazy when you realize how Chris has spent 24 straight years straight fighting bioterror ever since that night at Spencer Mansion in 1997...
Chris and the others been through alot
It almost seems like the BSAA is starting to become the next FBC, albeit with only one difference: no collaborating with terrorists. On top of that, he should've been able to retire after the events of game 6, but Piers (RIP) didn't want him to; the losses (near or otherwise) he witnessed were too much for him. I know his only blood-relation is his sister Claire, but he and Jill should've tied the knot and had a family if it were possible; Chris' heart needs time to heal.
22:00 also there is no way the BSAA didn’t know about Ethan been a moulded as they would have done a whole battery of tests on both him and Mia to make sure that they weren’t carrying any BOW infections, you can’t look at Ethan’s DNA and go “”yep he looks fine”” so at the very least 2 people at the BSAA must have known.
Maybe this was the key to them making whatever the new soldiers they were using, maybe it was Ethan’s DNA that made it possible, I’m thinking it had to be something quite new or you think Chris would have found it sooner.
Weren't those test results about to be delivered like, the very next day when village begins
This is a nice recap of the story so far. Since Shadows of Rose release in a couple hours it's nice to see where we at in the timeline lol
I have to say from an outside perspective but Ethan would've picked Mia anyway...you don't just go after your wife after hearing from her after three years and then not choose your wife at that point
What puzzles me is that Ethan doesn't seem to suffer any trauma after Mia attacked him in the house and even cut off his hand. Sure, she wasn't in her right self, but you would think Ethan would suffer nightmares or PTSD for staying anywhere close to Mia.
Where Jill, Sheva, and O’Brien. in the Village timeline. Aren’t they in danger now
wheres billy and carlos?
BSAA was founded with purpose, but like every great organization there is always nefarious temptation. Chris is noticing this, and he has every right to doubt them. Like the FBC, I can see the BSAA falling to this temptation after their use of bioweapons which goes completely against their fight against the usage and creation of bioweapons.
I think Rose simply aged faster. I doubt the ending is actually 16 years into the future because over half of the RE characters (bar Sherry, Rose, & Moria) would be too old physically to continue. Claire MIGHT can still keep up in a military environment being younger than Chris, Leon, Helena, Barry, Rebecca, Hunk, Sheva, Ada, & Jill.
Plus RE8 unless it takes place before the "16 years" in another location, Sherry, Rose, or Moria stared wouldn't sell as much as the well known and loved cast. Maybe Jake being a bit enhanced via the genetic lottery, he can go to but I'm not sure he could sell RE9
The game literally says it’s 16 years later. There’s no faster aging going on. Some kids are just bigger than others but level out in their teen years. I have a friend who’s niece is 3 but is wearing clothes for kids who are twice her age.
@@thunderstudent I beat the game once, so I missed that part.
@@thunderstudent I just watched the scene twice and nothing was said about 16 years.
@@nathanlamont9920 They might reference to official dlc trailer, what said it's 16 years later
Except Claire wants nothing to do with that kind of role. Yes, she's a fighter, but she's more of an environmental activist and journalist than a soldier like the others
The file from zoe baker kinda mentioned jill when she mentioned that he was one of the founding original 11.
Now since Chris is with Blue Umbrella, a reformed Umbrella Corp, and are in its special task force.. imagine if in the next RE.. He managed to track down and recruit the original Alpha Team's leader.. Hunk..
Kind of makes me wonder if Albert Wesker is behind all this. Yes I'm aware that he died in RE5 but it makes me wonder if he's truly dead or simply is still alive but in hiding for years after a long recovery (or in most cases a slow regeneration recovery).
Surviving a lava bath on top of two RPGs to the face makes me highly doubtful there’s any remains much less survive.
I get that Chris was worried Ethan and Rose might be infected by Miranda and forcefully took them to make sure, but why was he worried NOW when Ethan had already been exposed to the mould in Louisiana first and made no attempt of a quarantine/running tests then? 😅
Chris wasn't in charge of the tests, but someone else in BSAA or Blue Umbrella was and they didn't tell Chris?
whoa i did not know chris still uses blue umrella meds and the document files how did i miss out?
Yeah it's interesting that he still does and makes you wonder how this partnership is still on going. Also what does that mean with his affiliation with the BSAA then.
@@HeYDeVuH what if wesker is alive or possibly a clone or jake wesker became the next wesker
or chris mentality have affected and relised he needs power to keep everyone safe or something i think thats his motivation
the horror he went throught
i remember reaident evil 2 files says that chris having anger issues
after the mansion
chief irons rejected and cover up for umbrella
bcause chris has trusts issues
and it did affected both horros and trusts
@@joshuagraham2843 Wesker or a clone of him is definitely alive, although whether or not he has anything to do with this is unknown
I absolutely love the continuity in these games. ❤
It’s too bad the game didn’t bring more context on Chris’s situation with the BSAA. Maybe shadow of rose will answer that question.
this didn't age well, but considering RE7 had multiple dlcs, we could get another dlc focusing on Chris!! :D
Awesome vid one of my favourites from you.
Thank you so much and appreciate your kind words
Anyone notice that in Resident evil Archives that there was an Ethan W. with Umbrella lvl 9 clearance i think he was special before RE 7 I think he worked for or was a test subject and when i looked up more it said that Wesker was suppose to kill him check it out.
it crazy that chris will be in his 60s by RE village dlc lol.
so is barry alive by village dlc?
Probably an old Grampa 😂
Well it wasn’t really Chris that got Ethan killed as he died hours before Chris first met him, also based on the ending to RE8 Ethan May not be as dead as we thought.
Definitely am excited for RE9 as to see the BSAA’s corruption even from REE7 and RE8 we see the BSAA change from the organization that Chris founded to save humanity from these bio threats to know that same organization becoming what umbrella was
So awesome bro love it and keep it up.
Chris sure has came a long way.
Excellent video, really enjoyed it.👁☣️🧬
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makes me wonder if the BSAA sent that Squad of B.O.W.s in during the events of RE8 to "collect battle data" kind of like how Umbrella sent their very special T103 Tyrants and Nemesis into Raccoon City to collect combat data on them.
And honestly you just feel bad for Chris at this point, like dudes been through a shit ton.. I'd almost venture to say he's been through a hell of a lot more then the others with the exception of Leon and Claire.
It’s as if the BSAA adopted Umbrella’s tactics like in RE:Survivor by utilizing the Undertaker Units aka “trashsweepers” that was like the USS but intelligent tactically trained humanoid BOW’s that can be used and expended.
Haven’t finished 6 Chris campaign, but I will soon. 7 and village made Chris character feel new and like op.
Chris is getting to his wits end.
Come RE9 he's gonna burn down the BSAA and be the Hunk of Blue Umbrella.
Yeah it's interesting how this relationship he has with the BSAA has devolve, I really hope we get to see the aftermath of all this and how Chris deals with it
Chris has definitely hardened over the years but he still is a good person
Are we sure there wasn't a same situation like with what happened in Captain America The Winter Soldier, were SHIELD had Hydra members slowly infiltrate it for years. It's just a theory but the fact that the Operation was leaked, the collaboration with Blue Umbrella knowing Chris's history with them, Chris not trusting them, and the BSAA taking note of Chris's actions, it makes me wonder if this may be a possible reason why Chris became so secretive and slowly breaking away from the BSAA. But that's just me speculating.
resident evil is one of the few franchisees that has tv shows, movies and games
After playing Village I was fully convinced Chris was a Villain for a time and kept asking myself what happened to the man at re5 who wanted to fight for a future without fear? Or the committed and empathetic Hero of re6, how he was with Ethan entering village had me wondering where he stood as a character and if all of this pain had finally turned him into a darth vader type, especially Rose DLC because of how the agents were treating her and how Rose was even bullied in her school setting. Especially my base knowledge was that Chris was the supossive Guardian figure for her. Now knowing it's the corrupted BSAA watching over her it all makes more sense, and now thanks to your video! I finally have my answer he is no Villain, he's a hero damaged by the greedy reality of Umbrella's BOW sellings and the constant pain and wars it brought... Than the very counter he made for their evil schemes themselves became the evil ones (BSAA)... His whole life he's spent trying to remove these yucky people to make the world a better place but in the process it all seems to be falling on his big "boulder punching shoulders"!
8:38 Chris probably thought "Another team down. I'm getting sick of this happening."
Do Ada next
if you look at the BSAA body that chris team scooped up. right after Chris saves rose and Mia.
it has its face!? 😮
you think it's possible they'll have chris super clones? under BSAA? 🤔
if you think I'm crazy go to artwork in village as well in the art collection.
the BSAA agent has alternated face of chris.
BSAA will be new umbrella for re 9 that what i hope to see.
If Miranda was one with the mold she would've know that Ethan was being taken away. In this case she let them take away Ethan and Rose so things could play out the way she wanted as far as I can see.
I wonder if chis and Leon will return in resident evil 9 and will see Jill valentine again
They kinda went the “Big Boss” route with Chris in the last games, it’ll not surprise me if he becomes a “omega level” villain in RE upcoming games
Live long enough you become the Villain.
I really like your videos, but the voicechanger bits seem a bit much. That's the only gripe I have, the rest of the video is amazing.
Can someone answer, why couldn’t eveline control Ethan winters like she could with Mia and the bakers???
6 more days till shadow of rose dlc
You don't hear this often but chris is by far my favorite character in RE franchise. I feel they did him dirty including him in the popular games like re5 and his call of duty campain in re6
Does umbrella still exist if not i wonder where hunk is now
At the current time there is Blue Umbrella, though I don't know if they'll bring back the old version
So Lucas knew exactly what Evelyn was & exposed his family to her anyway, & my best guess that 3rd Party is The Tricell corporation...which is Umbrella under a different name.
umbrella never gone
there always there never gone
@@joshuagraham2843 If you've seen The Movie Resident Evil Degeneration or Played RE4 The Umbrella Corporation is dissolved, & went underground. You'd have ask Hey DeVuH how the movie tries into The RE 7 & Village Canon.
I still wonder why if Blue Umbrella is trying to reform, why would they name a BOW killing gun after Wesker?
Where do you find this file at 22:29?
Where's Jill during all of this?
No one knows I think
Capcom Hell
OWWW.. so that is the storyline.. damn didn't realize that..
I think Wesker was the one trying to get the bow data
All I know, is they send Chris in, and he comes back alive. Mistakes or not. He maybe lost all his men, but they weren't built like Chris. It even shows that he didn't want to lose anyone else by going in by himself.
It would be darkly hilarious if blue umbrella was the ONLY non corrupt collective currently fighting the BOW war
Ethan Winters brought me from and made me fall in love with the series all over again. Still hurts that he's gone. Hopefully this struggle with Chris Boulder Punching Redfield it's enough to keep my attention to this series...... unless it goes all Michael Bay on us like 6. Then byeeeeee
What makes you think it’s the bsaa that keeps tabs over rose?
Thought the same, unless I missed something, that's not really mentioned. Unless it's from the fact that Ethan was under BSAA surveillance
I knew Chris, he's a character I have lots of respect for, I thought of him as selfless & would do whatever it took to keep people alive as much as possible.
So when he went through the plan that, ultimately, got Ethan killed (being to gun down the entire 1st floor, taking Ethan's child away from him, not even hint at him at the very least of the situation & storing them all in the same truck with a bio weapon), I just couldn't accept that it was him (I still can't, this version of the character is just pain to me due to these feelings of inaccuracy that makes it difficult for me to believe). He's no Einstine, but he should be smart enough to of had a better plan. And not being consistent as to why he couldn't of said something to the guy before it got even worse (was there no time, was it the infection or was it cause Ethan shouldn't get involved? I, and some buddies of mine, chalk it up to bad writting).
It does explain the partnership with the New Leaf Umbrella as I call them, a company Chris has relations towards in the past as the company of death. If he trusts THEM more then the org he help found, something is horribly wrong.
All this shit is convoluted, contrived in parts like I mentioned, something isn't adding up & I usually come to a conclusion somehow, everything so far only makes me ask more questions then it does answer
What is, supposedly was, the mold/megamycede (if they were the same thing, I tried understanding it as much as possible, i'm still confused by it)?
Why is the BSAA covering up a mistake like they were the original Umbrella + why are they suspected in utilization in B.O.W.s, when its their job to take down the very thing they're doing?
Is every BSAA agent behind in this?
What else does Chris know that we don't?
Too many questions, not many answers I could find or understand
@Cryo-Mancer honestly I wish I could laugh at that joke, but after what I had been through that's sadly not something i'd do much of (its all just too real, which is beyond sad at what the topic is about).
I think he was a great character before RE7, RE6 maybe considering the way he was handled isn't great & particularly contrived. I wish that it was handled better, but it is what it is.
As for him abondoning his sister before RE2, I don't exactly believe that. With how big Umbrella is & the fact he was going full bore into investigating umbrella, I always believed he had no choice if he didn't want to risk her safety, he was already waist deep into it & he didn't want her involved (how ironic, since its one of the excuses that he exclaimed in RE8 & it ultimately got Ethan killed). Taking her to europe doesn't exactly strike me as a fool proof plan, when its shown in CV that he's under surveillance by Umbrella (weather he knew or not may not of mattered, the Diary he left behind in RE2 seemed to of implied paranoia) & sending mail could be risky cause of how deep Umbrella's hand is in the City
I respect you too, I do try making sure I have all the facts about Chris. this video was pretty informative though. I still think the way his character was handled in RE8 is unacceptable, but this video does help me understand just a bit on why. I prefer the facts, weather it commends or condems him.
Exactly it’s so frustrating when characters withhold information like that for no apparent reason. It takes away from their character bc it’s something they wouldn’t do, it’s a forced fault in judgement to have the plot of RE8. If Chris had filled Ethan in, I doubt Ethan would have resisted and he’d still be alive
So Ethan was BSAA then and that why Chris was searching for him
He was under BSAA surveillance but I don't think he was part of it
The question is what led to the downfall between him and the BSAA?
Bro I feel so bad for Chris… the dude only ever loses but damn if he’s not resilient. Even when he tried divorcing himself from the job he lost Piers and before that, he’d lost countless comrades and even Jill at one point. I absolutely don’t blame his judgement with Ethan’s situation, even if it was underhanded. The man is going to die fighting for what is right and is likely the sole being keeping their world from falling to all out apocalypse.
Leon and Jill are absolute heroes as well, but no one has lost as much as Chris. Jill is there too with the surviving STARS, though on screen Chris’s tragedies were far more on display
You got to wonder despite Chris relationships I'm wondering if Jill and Barry aware as well
Chris from orig resident evil is very different from now. Played re 20yrs ago and re5 when it came out. Today after not playing anymore, i am surprised with the changes wtf
you were right definitely rated M :) awesome content though 👏👌👍😎
Poor Chris never catches a break. Also this was very lore heavy, loved it! The last game I didnt play but watched 7. It felt a bit confusing where the RE franchise was heading but it seems with 8 they wrapped that subplot and key information we needed to continue the over all main plot. I will say, now it makes sense why with Ethan we never really got to see his face. It was intentional because he was later meant to die and to show us /let us play a plot that didnt involve a main character but a character that also did not have much of import in the sense that he wouldn't be played for long. Everything is falling nicely into place. After 6, I can speak for all of us when I say we were all concern on the status of the RE franchise was heading to. Now it seems like they have a bigger scheme that was always present but took alot of scenarios to shape.
14:56 at last he acknowledges he’s screw up.
Bro you should make a video about lisa trevor
Dude we're still hanging with the revelations story. Albert's sister, I believe her name is Alex. Didn't she do something to that little girl that Berry took in. There was nothing about that storyline up until now and even after connecting the umbrella founder and RE4's special virus or whatever it was, with RE7&8. Basically connecting alot of things together. And yet the revelations storyline seems forgotten....
And the time leap in the ending of RE8/Rose shadow dlc story kind of makes me think they've completely scrapped any intentions of continuing revelation story or at least giving any kind of closure :(
Yeah I hope that they continue on that storyline
When you realize Lucas is more evil than Evelin
Should have just told ethan what was going on. Chris and ethan together is a strong as fuck team
Yeah that would have been the wiser thing to have done looking back.
Chris didn't know about Ethan's, Mold regenerative abilities which he finds out later on on re8.
Cool
Chris"mother Miranda murdered ethen and she is not going to get away with it" me"errrrr...Chris...that's not strictly ture...."
5:13 That is not Chris, he did not looked like that in RE5, this is a body double
Three years? It's been way longer than that come on since 1998.
Clearly Chris misheard Miranda. She was simply saying the German word for “the”.
after the events of 8, anyone get the vibe that 7 chris is a bsaa battle clone? he 1 looks hella young and 2 is too laid back and willing to accept orders.