Will there also be a version of the vapour chamber one without the display? I'm an aircool enthusiast, but i prefer windowless cases and non RGB builds.
On CES, DeepCool showed off a CH160 standing on its rear on a skirt with display/readout called CH160 digital next to regular CH160. Could you, pretty please, ask them where did that disappear? It had breathe through side panel with AIO support rails, ability to do a proper chimney effect and made more sense than whatever ITX tower you were able to review on the channel so far.. EDIT: I failed to notice it at 7:07.. Probably in the pipeline still
@@DarioCastellarin From what I understand the color of incandescent glow depends on temperature, not material, and aluminum just melts cool enough that the visible light this produces is still very faint.
As long as people keep buying gimmicks, companies will keep selling them. Unfortunately, this often leads to a lack of meaningful product development, higher costs, and more ewaste.
I really liked the pixel case but not on the front that just feels counterintuitive they should have put it on the side instead. I'd have zero problem having the chassi on the side to see the cool pixel stuff that you've made. I'm not a big fan of see through glass to begin with, I feel the emphasis is too much on the LOOK rather than functionally with modern chassis. I have an older computer from around 2008-2010 in the closet and it was so easy to understand and disassemble that even I could do it. The computer I have now is so ridiculously overworked to look "cool" that I bet I'd have trouble taking it apart and putting it back together if I ever needed to.
If only motherboard manufacturers had a header so these digital displays could be used as a fault code readout for boot issues. As it would be cheaper than a $1k MB.
I've been noticing more and more lately that manufacturers don't like disclosing their prices anymore. They know telling people that it's too high will deter them from being interested in the product and they want to keep people hyped for as long as possible and avoid other products so they're pressured into buying it anyway when they find out the price is too high.
@@jonevansauthor I'd say "get your mind out of the gutter", but, when I try to stick my own head into said gutter, I still have no clue what you're talking about. Don't do drugs, kids. But yeah, I'm stoked for all this Computex coverage. At best, I get to see exciting new budget products. At worst, I see entertaining new ideas.
Its nice to see that 7-segment displays are being used by some of these. A LCD screen is overkill when all I want is to look over and see how hot the CPU is.
Same, I've loving that Deepcool is leaning into them for those of us who don't feel the need to pay for a oled display to show a temperature. Plus I personally like the ( I guess I'll call it understaded) look they went with, it feels unique compared with competitors which feel like they shout "gamer style"
Paid 29€ for my arctic 34 esports duo cooler and it's been running cool and quiet for nearly 5 years. Was on my ryzen 3600 and now on the 7600 which runs nearly 10°C hotter on idle at same rpm than 3600.. anyway, bang for buck cooler
@@michaelg9188 Thermalright is no doubt the budget king. The QA for the dollar you're getting makes it very worthwhile. The heat pipes and fin stack alone are worth it and the two fans are just a bonus that are easily replaced whenever they fail, time will tell but I'm guessing around 4~5 years which is my experience with mid-tier fans. It's interesting because from where it looks today, performance can't get much better - consumer CPU's will likely get more efficient rather than demanding yet more power like intel's current path. So brands like Noctua are going hard into that reliability + service promise but you have to wonder if it'll last or if budget fans can make the same advances for cheaper. Like, if Thermalright becomes or is really successful, is there much stopping them from offering excellent service on Noctua's level? What does Noctua do then?
14900K owner here. I really hope air cooling evolves because quite frankly, for my specific use as it stands, I just don't like aio's (or water cooling in general). Don't get me wrong, water cooling builds (aio or custom loop) look awesome, and for thermals it's almost always better, but I like the reliability and peace of mind of never having to worry about leaks or pump failure. I am almost tempted to wait for this new crop of air coolers, see how they do in testing, and figure out a way to direct die cool on air. Perhaps with that I can maybe get somewhat similar thermals to an aio with an IHS. High (albeit realistic) hopes for these air coolers, truly.
Anyhow, I have NH-D15 on overclocked 5950X. It handles around 200-220W prolonged power draw pretty OK with that setup. After that it is not OK anymore. Using BIOS to finetune power settings to max that range on longer workloads should work out fine.
Dang, I just purchased my Assassin a few months. I have three fans on it and the thing cools better then my previous AIO. 37-38 degrees idle with a 5950x - 4.55GHz All Cores.
I hope the Assassin IV VC cooler is available without that display. Vapor chamber coldplate cooling for CPUs should be considered now that high-end GPUs are using it.
Thanks for all of the efforts and the video. It seems like the CPU coolers need to evolve into a blower and duct that vents the hot air directly out of the case. Sort of like the AMD W series graphic cards.
If an air cooler costs the same as an AIO, I'll still prefer it, provided the performance is comparable. No fuss with leaks, water fins gunking up, pump noise, or pump failure.
The AK series already has a line of digital versions but these new ones look like they are magnetically attached and show a lot more info. Currently they only display temp or usage but now it looks like they can display both in addition to cpu frequency as well as wattage. With that plus vapor chambers and better fans this is quite the upgrade from the last release. These will be a steal if they can keep prices below AIO territory. (Seems unlikely though)
Vapor chamber looks a bit small for loads approaching 300W? Vapor chambers have a limited window of operation, so would be interesting to see how they engineered it and how it handles different kinds of loads.
Looks about 1/4 the size I’d expect, as well. They’re much more suited for reducing thermal density and they state that it is slightly worse than an existing model. I’d expect these to be used in direct die applications over anything
Man I miss having my awesome Desktop pc I built. Watching these make me get the itch. I had to sell my desktop pc for a Gaming laptop because I became an OTR Truck Driver and im gone for months at a time. No point in having a desktop pc thats just going to sit un-used. 😢
I have deepcool AIO since 4 years, and simply love it! Mine is a gammaxx L240 ... I have tried generic double tower heatsink solutions - they have 2 major drawbacks compared to aio systems, the tubes at the base spread a lot of heat and the ram is closeby, I had to build a custom fan solution to remove that heat with a fans card right below the cpu, and the other is they spread heat inside the case instead of directly outside as the aio does ... ( then weight a ton, always scared to move the case ... not as easy to dust ... )
@@MegaChickenPunch how much UV you got on yours? I set mine to -0.24 mV, any more and it won't post. I'm on a very limited cooling setup though, ITX with a very congested setup and an ID Cooling IS-55 cooler.
Pretty much everything in PC used metric system thanks God! I can't imagine myself shopping for a 4 ¾ inches fan, but a 120mm sure. Really it would be about time for the US to switch to metric system, the imperial should be deprecated for so long already 😩
@@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993 The US does use the Metric System. How do you think we conduct science and industry? A 12 ounce soda can also says "355 ml" on it. I highly doubt the continued existence of Imperial Measure impacts your daily life. Fuckin' crybabies like you...
@@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993 Officially the US switched to the metric system in 1979 by law, and all 'US Customary' units are all defined in metric. It's just that a lot of people in the US seem to resist accepting reality. Still a minority of such holdouts in Canada and the UK too.
I am SO SO SO excited for the Assassin IV Vapor Chamber Vision, I prefer air coolers and I also love to be able to see the temp and cpu utilization, I have been holding off upgrading from my noctua dh15 and waiting for a digital version! I also love the ak400 and 620 refresh I like how the 400 shows power utilization, and I like the 620 showing the frequency, bits of info that are nice to just have for you when you want to see them.
I like these are coolers very much, like the display. The dual tower seems nice because the right side is shorter possible to show more of your memory.
07:07 Well... Technically... blocking some sections could actually improve the overall cooling performance by guiding the air more to the parts where needed. You can see where I'm going with this. You're going to have to run full tests of all possible permutations of those "pixels" filled or not.
Eager to see these new coolers being tested by GN. New coolers, new cases, lots of testing we're ready to see! Hopefully you can get some done before new CPUs drop and that takes center stage.....
I have a vapor chamber air cooler from an FM2-FM3 era, It doesn't have mounts for the modern sockets, but they can be bought, but it's a bit of a problem right now. Either way my air cooler (Deepcool Gammaxx 300) should handle my future AM4 cpu upgrades just fine, aiming for R7 5800X3D, currently R5 3600
Honestly there are 2 screens that are useful. One is CPU temp but it has to be on one of those case screens so you can actually see it easily, and also said case screen can have like discord or RUclips chat on it. Thats about all I would ever use other screens for.
I mean between RGB and screens, I guess I prefer screens? At least screens sort of have the ability to potentially be useful to some degree. Personally, I don't really need one for most of my stuff. I already have a screen attached to my computer, I would prefer to use that.
I love that even an American is completely lost with Fahrenheit when it comes to CPU temperatures 😄 Y'all, that's how I feel all the time when you talk about the weather 😊
What I like about Deepcool is they perform great and look great, unlike Noctua. If you want me to pay a premium then there needs to be reasons, Deepcool gives you some
Given a way to generate a fixed amount of heat regardless of output temperature, (aka a calibrated output heat load, not a CPU with all its parameters locked down and a known repeatable workload), I'd say the ideal method to test coolers would be the following: For the "absolute performance" metric of air coolers, you would simply set the fans so that they would run at full speed, and measure the cold plate's temperature rise over ambient. For the "noise normalized performance" metric of air coolers, you would instead set the quietest cooler's fans to 100%, set the fan speed of all the other coolers to match that noise level, and then once again measure cold plate temperature over ambient. This seems to cover the two most common use cases for when someone wants to upgrade the cooling solution for their CPU, namely: 1. "I want my CPU to not throttle as often/be able to be overclocked more" 2. "The speed of my CPU is fine, but I want my PC to make less noise" These are really just two sides of the same coin, and an increase in cooling effectiveness will achieve either one roughly equally well assuming a linear relationship between fan noise and cooling performance (per each cooler, the slope of the line relating the two variables will likely be at least slightly different for each cooler, with larger coolers that use slower fans being better at noise lowering, and larger coolers that use faster fans being better at absolute performance).
8:05 related to that value, what is the power consumption difference between a dual fan air cooler, and am AIO? It's got a third fan, sure obviously, but how much power is something like the pump using?
every time a RUclips says “this company that has been making a reliable product for years needs to worry about this new competitor” always ends up sticking with the company that’s been in the game for the longest
I love how air cooling market is rapidly progressing in the last 1.5 years or so! So many genuinely great coolers for the awesome price! Even Noctua began doing something sitting on their D15 for like 10 years.
Super hopeful that VCs can make air cooling effective for these high end CPUs. Even if they end up costing what a closed loop does they will still have the advantage of simplicity and greater reliability, But I really do not need all the bling either. If these things work well that fact alone will sell them.
The Federal Government has placed sanctions on DeepCool products as, supposedly, DeepCool has sold products to the Russian military in violation of US sanctions. DeepCool is fighting it in court, but don't expect to see DeepCool products for several months at least, if not years
00:30 I would have thought the biggest challenge would have been structural, Vapour Chambers are not nearly as solid against super high pressure as a solid block of copper. Due to orientation; CPU's coolers are under a lot more bend stress near the thermal contact than GPU coolers; where the pcie connection is the break/bend point if anywhere. lol.
I really like simple display on coolers, like this one. I don't need (or really even want) a giant 4K OLED playing videos on a case or on the cooler, I just want to see some basic info at a glance (temps, frequencies, maybe fan/ pump speed)
The fact that I got a 360mm Arctic RGB liquid cooler for $93 shipped this past winter (direct from their website) says a lot about how good competition is for us in any industry. Meanwhile.... Nvidia ND others over here.........
1:09 A bit Off Topic, but I like how Thermal Grizzly, as a german company, has lit the black tube with gold light to get the black red gold into the shot without doing it too much on the nose. Maybe it wasn't even intentional...... was it?!
Check out our coverage of the Tryx cooler as well! ruclips.net/video/Td0XORmSJp8/видео.htmlsi=bybFsUUTym1WWK0l
And our Noctua coverage on the channel!
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I look forward to your testing of the vapor chamber cooler
i've always heard vapor chambers are better than just plain coldplate-heatpipe transfer. Now we'll ge to see it in charts.. hopefully
Will there also be a version of the vapour chamber one without the display?
I'm an aircool enthusiast, but i prefer windowless cases and non RGB builds.
On CES, DeepCool showed off a CH160 standing on its rear on a skirt with display/readout called CH160 digital next to regular CH160. Could you, pretty please, ask them where did that disappear? It had breathe through side panel with AIO support rails, ability to do a proper chimney effect and made more sense than whatever ITX tower you were able to review on the channel so far..
EDIT: I failed to notice it at 7:07.. Probably in the pipeline still
"Everything's under control" [temperature goes to 888 C, red-hot aluminum spills on the table]
Is aluminium's melting point that low?
@@MaxwellTornado 650 C as far as i remember.
Aluminium doesn't get red hot...
@@DarioCastellarin It definitely does not, Experimented on some aluminum AC coil. I just kind of disintegrates. 🤣🤣🤣
@@DarioCastellarin From what I understand the color of incandescent glow depends on temperature, not material, and aluminum just melts cool enough that the visible light this produces is still very faint.
"Just slap a screen into everything" has been a theme lately?
I mean the small display on their air coolers is pretty subtle and actually looks good and functional
The screens are ridiculously cheap these days, can charge a nice premium for it so yeah.
As long as people keep buying gimmicks, companies will keep selling them. Unfortunately, this often leads to a lack of meaningful product development, higher costs, and more ewaste.
Finally, I can tell how hot my air cooler is when I'm sitting under my desk! What solutions will they invent problems to next?
cooling and case manufacturers are a few years late, they should've already have AI on these screens, just like fridges and washing machines do!
"You can put your favorite pixel art on there and block airflow at the same time..." xD the presenter is killing me, he's great!
Steve's the best.
"Who put this in fahrenheit"
Rest of the world: *instantly favourite American person*
The F is for freedom the C is for communism.
I am American and I don't understand hardware temps in fahrenheit or 3d models in inches
that gif of michael scott yelling THANK YOU
@@sg5184 inches is even more ridiculous than Fahrenheit
Having the 100 deg at boiling point of water helps alot with understang cpu temps
@sg5184
Competition is always good for customers
Unless the sheep keep buying nvidia no matter what...
@@bobbymoss6160 The more you buy, the more you save.
@@bobbymoss6160AMD should release something worth buying then.
@@bobbymoss6160 Nvidia always living rentfree in an amdrone’s mind
No pain no gain
those kidcore pixel kit cases are ADORABLE and remind me of all the various beading / light bright sort of crafting kit toys from the 90s
Agreed, so adorable..
cringe tbh
Old fart here, Light Brite came out the year I was born-1967. I had one in 3rd grade...1975. Now get off my lawn. :)
I really liked the pixel case but not on the front that just feels counterintuitive they should have put it on the side instead. I'd have zero problem having the chassi on the side to see the cool pixel stuff that you've made. I'm not a big fan of see through glass to begin with, I feel the emphasis is too much on the LOOK rather than functionally with modern chassis. I have an older computer from around 2008-2010 in the closet and it was so easy to understand and disassemble that even I could do it. The computer I have now is so ridiculously overworked to look "cool" that I bet I'd have trouble taking it apart and putting it back together if I ever needed to.
@@LordAngelus "embarrassing tbh" FTFY old man /s
If only motherboard manufacturers had a header so these digital displays could be used as a fault code readout for boot issues. As it would be cheaper than a $1k MB.
That's a good idea. They'll add that to all their sku's and jack the price up $30.
that would require a "digital display header" standard
we all know PC manufacturers hate standards
@@uss-dh7909 $300*
"Everything is under control" Screen immediately disagrees.
and it is sanctioned by government, no more agree or disagree
I've been noticing more and more lately that manufacturers don't like disclosing their prices anymore. They know telling people that it's too high will deter them from being interested in the product and they want to keep people hyped for as long as possible and avoid other products so they're pressured into buying it anyway when they find out the price is too high.
What the fuck is "pressured into buying"? Selfcontrol, ever heard of it? If you don't like the price, don't buy the product.
The one RUclipsr I’m happy is spamming my inbox
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
@@jonevansauthor huh
@@jonevansauthor I'd say "get your mind out of the gutter", but, when I try to stick my own head into said gutter, I still have no clue what you're talking about. Don't do drugs, kids.
But yeah, I'm stoked for all this Computex coverage. At best, I get to see exciting new budget products. At worst, I see entertaining new ideas.
DC and Thermalright need to do a collab and call it the AK47 Peerless Assassin Phantom Spirt Digital.
You missed "ultra max ai"
@@BoraHorzaGobuchulBlack Edition!
Its nice to see that 7-segment displays are being used by some of these. A LCD screen is overkill when all I want is to look over and see how hot the CPU is.
Same, I've loving that Deepcool is leaning into them for those of us who don't feel the need to pay for a oled display to show a temperature. Plus I personally like the ( I guess I'll call it understaded) look they went with, it feels unique compared with competitors which feel like they shout "gamer style"
Noctua / Arctic / Deepcool are always doing some good shit.
Paid 29€ for my arctic 34 esports duo cooler and it's been running cool and quiet for nearly 5 years. Was on my ryzen 3600 and now on the 7600 which runs nearly 10°C hotter on idle at same rpm than 3600.. anyway, bang for buck cooler
cant forget Thermalright either
@@dereklang4451 I love my 34 eSpots Duo as well. its fantastic, max 44 celcius under load for R5 3600 4.4 Ghz all core-oc.
@@michaelg9188 Thermalright is no doubt the budget king. The QA for the dollar you're getting makes it very worthwhile. The heat pipes and fin stack alone are worth it and the two fans are just a bonus that are easily replaced whenever they fail, time will tell but I'm guessing around 4~5 years which is my experience with mid-tier fans.
It's interesting because from where it looks today, performance can't get much better - consumer CPU's will likely get more efficient rather than demanding yet more power like intel's current path. So brands like Noctua are going hard into that reliability + service promise but you have to wonder if it'll last or if budget fans can make the same advances for cheaper. Like, if Thermalright becomes or is really successful, is there much stopping them from offering excellent service on Noctua's level? What does Noctua do then?
silverstone is also an unsung hero
14900K owner here. I really hope air cooling evolves because quite frankly, for my specific use as it stands, I just don't like aio's (or water cooling in general). Don't get me wrong, water cooling builds (aio or custom loop) look awesome, and for thermals it's almost always better, but I like the reliability and peace of mind of never having to worry about leaks or pump failure.
I am almost tempted to wait for this new crop of air coolers, see how they do in testing, and figure out a way to direct die cool on air. Perhaps with that I can maybe get somewhat similar thermals to an aio with an IHS.
High (albeit realistic) hopes for these air coolers, truly.
Have you tried undervolting to help with using air coolers. Or just a fixed OC but limiting frequency a bit so you get power use in control.
Or have you tried a well-designed, lower power CPU like anything AMD. Bit too early for Windows on ARM.
@@cheffress stupid to do a lateral change from 14900k to some AMD CPU.
Anyhow, I have NH-D15 on overclocked 5950X. It handles around 200-220W prolonged power draw pretty OK with that setup. After that it is not OK anymore. Using BIOS to finetune power settings to max that range on longer workloads should work out fine.
@@cheffress except ihs is awful and all that efficiency goes to waste thermal wise
"Depends on what temperature you want to use"
Canadian: *confused screaming*
Been loving the back to back computex season of uploads
The vapor chamber design actually should help combat hotspots on the CPUs
Great, more screens that increase the prices even more.. Extremely useful for us with cases that's under the desk.
Hey Gamers Nexus, are you guys visiting the EK booth? I'd like to see their reaction haha
No. They do not deserve a platform after how they handled the second video. We will visit ASUS, though.
@@GamersNexus No way!
@@GamersNexus Fair enough! Good luck with Asus!
@@GamersNexus I can't help but read this in Steve's voice lol
@@GamersNexus Thanks for pre-empting my follow up question. Looking forward to the ASUS vid.
It's going to be interesting seeing vapor chamber air cooler performance. And the custom pixel case is adorable!
Dang, I just purchased my Assassin a few months. I have three fans on it and the thing cools better then my previous AIO. 37-38 degrees idle with a 5950x - 4.55GHz All Cores.
I hope the Assassin IV VC cooler is available without that display. Vapor chamber coldplate cooling for CPUs should be considered now that high-end GPUs are using it.
Same, just because a bunch of AiOs have a screen doesn't mean that air coolers have to have them too...
yeah but if they slap a tiny screen on it they can charge you more money!
Deepcool is a cheap brand you so you can still buy it at decent price. @@blasiankxng
@@Donnerwamp I don't think so. Alot of customers want that features to look more high end but don't need/want an AIO.
@DEEPCOOL1996 Thank you rep, that's cool of you!
Or should I say....
DEEP cool?
Thanks for all of the efforts and the video. It seems like the CPU coolers need to evolve into a blower and duct that vents the hot air directly out of the case. Sort of like the AMD W series graphic cards.
So this video has aged well.
RIP DeepCool in the USA market ⚰️
I'm really looking for GN's lab test review for this vapor chamber air cooler.
Agreed
* Had competition
I normally don't care much about random displays, but I actually like these. They're clean, understated, and actually in a location that makes sense.
If an air cooler costs the same as an AIO, I'll still prefer it, provided the performance is comparable. No fuss with leaks, water fins gunking up, pump noise, or pump failure.
Secks bots are 2 of the first 4 comments. Peak youtube.
they got nuked already damn
ya man
They're clearly here for Steve's glorious hair. They hang about the Prog Rock channels for the same reason.
@@ACE112ACE112 you wanted to give them some business?
Hey now. Google is a small indie company. There's no way they could solve a problem like this that has only been around for over 20 years.
The AK series already has a line of digital versions but these new ones look like they are magnetically attached and show a lot more info. Currently they only display temp or usage but now it looks like they can display both in addition to cpu frequency as well as wattage. With that plus vapor chambers and better fans this is quite the upgrade from the last release. These will be a steal if they can keep prices below AIO territory. (Seems unlikely though)
Vapor chamber looks a bit small for loads approaching 300W? Vapor chambers have a limited window of operation, so would be interesting to see how they engineered it and how it handles different kinds of loads.
Looks about 1/4 the size I’d expect, as well. They’re much more suited for reducing thermal density and they state that it is slightly worse than an existing model. I’d expect these to be used in direct die applications over anything
Looking forward to trying it!
I wonder if they are using a different working fluid (instead of water) to make it work?
It'll be cool if GN gets one though
I wanna know about the loads.....
Why should it be? It only transfer the heat to the heat pipes.
If there is enough fluid and way back for the fluid it will be fine.
Man I miss having my awesome Desktop pc I built. Watching these make me get the itch. I had to sell my desktop pc for a Gaming laptop because I became an OTR Truck Driver and im gone for months at a time. No point in having a desktop pc thats just going to sit un-used. 😢
I have deepcool AIO since 4 years, and simply love it! Mine is a gammaxx L240 ... I have tried generic double tower heatsink solutions - they have 2 major drawbacks compared to aio systems, the tubes at the base spread a lot of heat and the ram is closeby, I had to build a custom fan solution to remove that heat with a fans card right below the cpu, and the other is they spread heat inside the case instead of directly outside as the aio does ... ( then weight a ton, always scared to move the case ... not as easy to dust ... )
finally they are doing something with the humming noise. I'll be replacing the fans on my ak620 today with Arctic p12 max (fdb).
Got to give a major shout out to the camera guys here. Nice on the fly work!!!
I am falling in love eith all of these new air coolers
AMD + air cooling is the way to go
Some people like the hassle and aggro, power user now means people wasting a ludicrous amount of W, others just get a 7800x3D.
having UV on 5800x3d on air and i agree
@@MegaChickenPunch how much UV you got on yours? I set mine to -0.24 mV, any more and it won't post. I'm on a very limited cooling setup though, ITX with a very congested setup and an ID Cooling IS-55 cooler.
@@hasnihossainsami8375 i have used curve optimizer and used the maximum possible level. I think it's -30 negative curve offset on all cores.
@@hasnihossainsami8375 i have max uv which curveoptimizer allows,
Farenheit on PC components isn't real, it can't hurt you.
The cooler:
I really like that GN goes full TVA on those variant products
When we thought that might be in Fahrenheit, we about lost it. I'm American and we all use Celsius with our pcs
The day we stop using “oz” and “cups” for cooking will be a day for rejoicing.
Pretty much everything in PC used metric system thanks God! I can't imagine myself shopping for a 4 ¾ inches fan, but a 120mm sure.
Really it would be about time for the US to switch to metric system, the imperial should be deprecated for so long already 😩
@@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993 The US does use the Metric System. How do you think we conduct science and industry? A 12 ounce soda can also says "355 ml" on it. I highly doubt the continued existence of Imperial Measure impacts your daily life. Fuckin' crybabies like you...
@@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993 Officially the US switched to the metric system in 1979 by law, and all 'US Customary' units are all defined in metric. It's just that a lot of people in the US seem to resist accepting reality. Still a minority of such holdouts in Canada and the UK too.
"Officially."
Lol.
The only reason I know the metric system is because I am into PC building.
I've been avoiding the slap a screen on everything trend, but I want that cooler
I am SO SO SO excited for the Assassin IV Vapor Chamber Vision, I prefer air coolers and I also love to be able to see the temp and cpu utilization, I have been holding off upgrading from my noctua dh15 and waiting for a digital version! I also love the ak400 and 620 refresh I like how the 400 shows power utilization, and I like the 620 showing the frequency, bits of info that are nice to just have for you when you want to see them.
I like these are coolers very much, like the display. The dual tower seems nice because the right side is shorter possible to show more of your memory.
07:07 Well... Technically... blocking some sections could actually improve the overall cooling performance by guiding the air more to the parts where needed. You can see where I'm going with this. You're going to have to run full tests of all possible permutations of those "pixels" filled or not.
It's nice having soo many videos coming out and to constantly have something to watch from gn
Neat looking cooler. I hope we get to see some testing. Safe Travel Steve and Crew.
I love when companies like Thermalright or Deepcool offer competition to other titans of the business 🙏
Eager to see these new coolers being tested by GN. New coolers, new cases, lots of testing we're ready to see! Hopefully you can get some done before new CPUs drop and that takes center stage.....
I really like DeepCool's latest designs.
Theyre clean and simple.
Thank you for supporting the Celsius unit.
Kelvin FTW
thanks for the great coverage of the show steve. not all of us have the ability or privilege to travel. 👌
Find someone that loves you the way Steve loves airflow
I really liked case pixels, that should be nice. The cooler seems to be a beast but the display seams overshoot.
"Far out, man, a Light Bright case, and a rad paracord bracelet case". BARF.
DeepCool has really been stepping up their game recently.
I have a vapor chamber air cooler from an FM2-FM3 era, It doesn't have mounts for the modern sockets, but they can be bought, but it's a bit of a problem right now. Either way my air cooler (Deepcool Gammaxx 300) should handle my future AM4 cpu upgrades just fine, aiming for R7 5800X3D, currently R5 3600
1:28 That just looks like somebody glued a phone for old people to a DeepCool Assassin cooler 😅
like the look of these with the screens
DeepCool Assassin looks cool. DeepCool Assassin looks like it's going to be in my next build.
Any plans on reviewing the thermalright phantom spirit 120 se that you guys got a while back?
We just want great cooling for a reasonable price and none of these needless screens.
Excited to see testing on these new vapour chamber coolers :-)
So the new gimmick has changed from rainbow LEDs on everything to now (mostly) useless little screens on things that don't need them. Yay e-waste!
Honestly there are 2 screens that are useful. One is CPU temp but it has to be on one of those case screens so you can actually see it easily, and also said case screen can have like discord or RUclips chat on it. Thats about all I would ever use other screens for.
E-waste for sure. Already drowning in it, so what's a million more. Hopefully optional.
@@Slugbunny I think it is, Steve mentioned a "Digital Edition"
I mean between RGB and screens, I guess I prefer screens?
At least screens sort of have the ability to potentially be useful to some degree.
Personally, I don't really need one for most of my stuff. I already have a screen attached to my computer, I would prefer to use that.
@@wallacengineering8096*opens HWinfo*
I love that even an American is completely lost with Fahrenheit when it comes to CPU temperatures 😄 Y'all, that's how I feel all the time when you talk about the weather 😊
Those little downdraft coolers look very interesting for some mITX builds i'm thinking about
Stacking verses integrating the vapor chamber is interesting.
What I like about Deepcool is they perform great and look great, unlike Noctua. If you want me to pay a premium then there needs to be reasons, Deepcool gives you some
First time seeing their products, they look nice!
They're going to go so crazy trying to perfect the air cooler that it's no longer going to be cheaper than water cooling.
Given a way to generate a fixed amount of heat regardless of output temperature, (aka a calibrated output heat load, not a CPU with all its parameters locked down and a known repeatable workload), I'd say the ideal method to test coolers would be the following:
For the "absolute performance" metric of air coolers, you would simply set the fans so that they would run at full speed, and measure the cold plate's temperature rise over ambient.
For the "noise normalized performance" metric of air coolers, you would instead set the quietest cooler's fans to 100%, set the fan speed of all the other coolers to match that noise level, and then once again measure cold plate temperature over ambient.
This seems to cover the two most common use cases for when someone wants to upgrade the cooling solution for their CPU, namely:
1. "I want my CPU to not throttle as often/be able to be overclocked more"
2. "The speed of my CPU is fine, but I want my PC to make less noise"
These are really just two sides of the same coin, and an increase in cooling effectiveness will achieve either one roughly equally well assuming a linear relationship between fan noise and cooling performance (per each cooler, the slope of the line relating the two variables will likely be at least slightly different for each cooler, with larger coolers that use slower fans being better at noise lowering, and larger coolers that use faster fans being better at absolute performance).
Ay, it's my favourite host, Steve "I wish I had some prices for you" Burke!
Would love a comparison video between this new vapor chambers performance against Noctua's new 8 pipe unit.
That ITX CH160 lunchbox case is a hot item right now. I tried to order the black one today and it was sold out everywhere.
The "Everything's under control" part xD
Now seriously, competitive companies are the best, these usually brings the good things at fair prices.
Finally. AIR COOLED VAPOR CHEMBOR...Steve.
Poor Camera guy. "Yes I got a nice shot of this super small piece with many lines on it, though shot!" Steve: "Aight, I'm gonne move it agian" ... hah
8:05 related to that value, what is the power consumption difference between a dual fan air cooler, and am AIO? It's got a third fan, sure obviously, but how much power is something like the pump using?
every time a RUclips says “this company that has been making a reliable product for years needs to worry about this new competitor” always ends up sticking with the company that’s been in the game for the longest
im really excited about the test from the deepcool assassin IV VC
The Vapor champ from DeepCool is something I'll keep my eye on, but i do not care about the screen (AT ALL!)
Eager for the DeepCool VC / Noctua showdown (others in the mix if appicable).
I love how air cooling market is rapidly progressing in the last 1.5 years or so! So many genuinely great coolers for the awesome price!
Even Noctua began doing something sitting on their D15 for like 10 years.
Super hopeful that VCs can make air cooling effective for these high end CPUs. Even if they end up costing what a closed loop does they will still have the advantage of simplicity and greater reliability,
But I really do not need all the bling either. If these things work well that fact alone will sell them.
If thermalright does an affordable air cooler with a vapor chamber, they will be the king again
They just copy Noctua lol, especially the fans.
@@Doflaminguard noctua is hella overpriced, thermalright is very affordable for the cooling potential
A display on an air cooler is one of the last things I would want.
Ask Deepcool when are they going to restock the CH160 case. We all need SFF cases with ATX PSU and great air cooling support.
I'm still waiting for this to release in America! It seems to be exclusive outside of America!
The Federal Government has placed sanctions on DeepCool products as, supposedly, DeepCool has sold products to the Russian military in violation of US sanctions. DeepCool is fighting it in court, but don't expect to see DeepCool products for several months at least, if not years
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I would have thought the biggest challenge would have been structural, Vapour Chambers are not nearly as solid against super high pressure as a solid block of copper. Due to orientation; CPU's coolers are under a lot more bend stress near the thermal contact than GPU coolers; where the pcie connection is the break/bend point if anywhere. lol.
Do note that cooling the CPU with a CLC to save CPU power is negated by the additional power draw of the CLC, depending on circumstances.
Hi Steve! I cannot wait for the ASUS video. That will be the spiciest one for sure!
I really like simple display on coolers, like this one. I don't need (or really even want) a giant 4K OLED playing videos on a case or on the cooler, I just want to see some basic info at a glance (temps, frequencies, maybe fan/ pump speed)
I run a DeepCool AK400 Plus pro mega or whatever it is called and it rund admirable!
For some reason, the Giorgio Tsoukalos "Aliens!" meme popped into my head, but instead of aliens it said "Screens!".
1:50 Why is it in F !? Love that Steve's the kind of nerd that uses Celsius like the rest of the world.
Celsius is very logical, as is the whole world using the same measuring systems.
The fact that I got a 360mm Arctic RGB liquid cooler for $93 shipped this past winter (direct from their website) says a lot about how good competition is for us in any industry. Meanwhile.... Nvidia ND others over here.........
1:09 A bit Off Topic, but I like how Thermal Grizzly, as a german company, has lit the black tube with gold light to get the black red gold into the shot without doing it too much on the nose. Maybe it wasn't even intentional...... was it?!
It’s on display mode. That’s why it’s jumping around.
"WHO PUT THIS IN FAHRENHEIT?" is my favorite
9:03 Nicely barely dodging copyright there Steve xD