Thanks for your video, I was in Ireland, and there I bought several Tin and Low Whistle, I have a Fiddle and I am very excited to play at my 80 years, some melodies that you explain on your channel, of such a beautiful Nation. Greetings from the City of Buenos Aires, Argentina
Am I the only one that “feels at home” when he plays the bluegrass style of that song. Melts my heart, much love from Texas. I feel like if I’m ever away from home or feel home sick I always come back here.. I miss my town Lucas, Texas 🙈♥️
Adore this tune! Living in New Brunswick, I am surrounded by Irish, Scottish, and Acadien fiddle styles, and the predominant arrangement here actually kind of combines both of those presented here. Well done sir!
Ian you are truly a blessing to beginning fiddlers . I have been struggling for a few years to get a handle on my fiddle and sir are just what the doctor prescribes.
I’ve been watching a lot of fiddling lately, and you are by far the best on RUclips. Your bowing is absolutely perfect with no scratchiness or distortion. Amazing!
This is such a great video and just love both Celtic and Bluegrass, both are such great dance tune and you just can't help having a big smile on your face! Love them and Thank You fo all your videos. Kay
Imagine my great surprize to realize that I have been listening to the bluegrass version and like it best !!!!!!!!! Thanks for educating me, I had no idea there was two different styles
As someone of Irish descent who lives in Newfoundland, I adore trad music. As someone with absolutely zero musical talent, I'm subscribing to your channel nonetheless. This is sooo interesting!
@moonstar....more akin to scottish fiddle reel music as that is where the irish got . there are 100s of scottish fiddle reel tunes in ireland. they also adopted the american bluegrass style..
I personally like both flavors, it's like german-style sausage vs. italian-style sausage vs. let's say scottish-style sausage none of them is inferior, they just have different flavors, colors, textures, aromata and stuff.
True. But Scots fiddle is different than Irish. And Cape Breton is the same as Scots. And this is a jam, these guys didn't all sit around and practice this beforehand: ruclips.net/video/4mATVgE2_KI/видео.html
Hi thank you so much I like so much how you play it's full of life and joy ! I am beginner in violin and want to learn and play more and more and more. I am 30 years old, I live in France and I obviously follow you that I dicover today.
I believe this tune has French Canadian origin, which both of these styles would have come from. Me thinks that would be closer to Don Messer’s version, with the heavy accents on the 1st beat in the rhythm to cue the dancers for the next section, so they know when to do si do, etc. Ian brings out the old time feeling in these tunes, thank you Mr. Walsh, great to practice with.
@@garymorehouse9334 you are right a canadian tune. the fiddle was introduced into ireland from scotland alang with 100s of scottish fiddle reels(reel music being indigenous to scotland not ireland). here's a few......rakish paddy/jeans reel/ the bucks of oranmore/the boyne hunt/haymakers jig/lucy campbell/musical priest/copper plate and many more. type in......music essays | traditional irish ireland.........then type in.......irish traditional music feature ask about ireland........you will see it's all adopted so it can hardly be traditional irish. then type in........learning about the irish reel dance|irish american mom.........this woman's actually irish who lives in america.....then type in.......history ireland reinventing tradition the boundaries of irish dance helen brennan........you will read where the irish ceili and music came from. then type in.......ireland and the celtic culture in search of ancient ireland.......the word celtic applied to england wales ireland and scotland . in the late 1800s the irish nationalists adopted it as exclusively irish and has been promoted as such ever since. there's a fair chance that reel music would have been in canada before ireland., taken there by earlier scots settlers. the modern irish music started with the clancies in the late 50s then the dubliners in 62 then the furies in the 70s many of their famous sangs are actually scottish or english.(i know because i was around then). irish nationalist adopted the scottish culture and music in the late 1800s to distance themselves from the colonial english. i.e kilts/bagpipes/ceilidths/fiddle reel music/accordian music. look up that famous irish word criac adopted in the 50s ,sean nos in the 40s. type in ...the irish session myth or fact.......these sessions have been in scotland and england for centuries.
You could combine 'licks' from the Irish version into the bluegrass style on subsequent AABB takes and it would sound fine... slurring, slides and rolls would be welcomed and accepted at any venue.
Both styles are very good but the Irish style is more opted towards Irish set dancing while the Bluegrass style is awesome for Square dancing at a Hioe Down and a overall great old time country dance like at barn dance !
i wonder if you're irish version is a little newer... i don't know... your bluegrass version sounds like we play it in canada and we play everything like its a billion years old up here...
@@DSteinman It's not an ebony fingerboard and the dye is wearing away. It's probably an old, but cheap fiddle that despite its original price has a nice sound. Some of those old German and French trade instruments can have a surprisingly nice sound.
Great demonstration and wonderful playing. Could you please tell me about your instrument. The board looks like dyed maple. And the top appears to have a crack. But, boy, does it sound good. Maybe it is an old friend. Thanks again...
CI Hwang Nope. But people playing this kind of music (Scottish/Irish/early American/Appalachian/French Canadian etc etc I mean what have you) generally call it the fiddle It's really just a violin though. But for some reason they need a way of "differentiate" themselves from classical styles
Yes there is, but most;y a matter of minor 'setup' changes, for instance, the bridge (the wooden piece that holds the strings high above the fiddle body, near where the bow slides, toward the players chin) is more arched on a violin and 'flatter' on a fiddle (Irish, Scottish, Cape Breton, bluegrass, etc do more 'double stops' - bowing two strings at once, so a flatter bridge makes that easier.)
Interesting. As a small 4 string plectrum banjo player (fiddle tuning), my simple brain stripped out the embellishments and both versions sounded exactly the same to me. Calling it Irish puzzled me. French Canadian, Scots, English, Irish all play it the same and shouldn't claim it as their own without checking. And Celtic includes 4 different nationalities: Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Brittany. I think the tune originated with the French or French-Canadians. Check it out. I did find a very old 78 record with a French recording of a tune with the same A part, but a different B part. A similar name in French I think, but I've lost the link. Originally the Breton settlers in Brittany fled England to France where they became assimilated into France. So maybe the English have a claim to it as well!
why do you count before you start? I've only had 3 lessons so far so forgive me if my question seems dumb. Ugh will I ever get to this level? My teacher printed out two lines of Cripple Creek Tuesday, and I've got the notes memorized but I just can't make it flow?! Does the ability to make it flow just come with time or am I doing something wrong?
Hi Missi, yes counting is very helpful. When I was starting, I found that tapping my foot was helpful. When you learn something new, play it very very slow at first, but correctly and in time. Then gradually speed it up. And as others have said, the violin as a difficult instruments and it takes years of regular practice to become good. So hang in there and keep making music
What's sad is that because the country fiddle (not the bluegrass fiddle in this video) and Irish fiddle sound so similar to my ears, I wouldn't be able to call the Irish version Irish at first
I know the song from my wife's family playing it and they're from Cape Breton. Could be French, could be Scottish but I've never known it to be Irish. I could be wrong though.
@@fintanoclery2698 - my family is from Prince Edward Island, but I was born in Sydney N.S. Cape Breton. The song is supposedly from Quebec but written with influences from Irish and Scottish tunes. We know one thing for sure, it’s a great tune, cheers.
@@fintanoclery2698 i,m scottish but this is an canadian reel . fiddle reel music is indigenous to scotland but was taken to canada by scottish settlers.
Both versions are nice but both versions are severely lacking in the second part for the proper accompaniment chords! In the second part, the second chord is not a g it's an e minor as the way the canadiens play it ( and Messer and Jackson), it sounds too American to put another G chord in the second part, not to mention (but I will anyway) that it makes the tune much more interesting and beautiful! I'm surprised those who are accompanying him didn't know that!
When you become a full grown man or woman , you play bluegrass. Gritty double stops, slides, and improvisation, not this flicky diddly airy fairy bullshit.* *Tongue firmly in cheek!
Thanks for your video, I was in Ireland, and there I bought several Tin and Low Whistle, I have a Fiddle and I am very excited to play at my 80 years, some melodies that you explain on your channel, of such a beautiful Nation. Greetings from the City of Buenos Aires, Argentina
Am I the only one that “feels at home” when he plays the bluegrass style of that song. Melts my heart, much love from Texas.
I feel like if I’m ever away from home or feel home sick I always come back here.. I miss my town Lucas, Texas 🙈♥️
Love me a good sounding fiddle🥵
Adore this tune! Living in New Brunswick, I am surrounded by Irish, Scottish, and Acadien fiddle styles, and the predominant arrangement here actually kind of combines both of those presented here. Well done sir!
Best rendition of the Irish version I've heard on the Internet!
check this out: ruclips.net/video/FofzFdjdyyw/видео.html
Right?!
Ian you are truly a blessing to beginning fiddlers . I have been struggling for a few years to get a handle on my fiddle and sir are just what the doctor prescribes.
I’ve been watching a lot of fiddling lately, and you are by far the best on RUclips. Your bowing is absolutely perfect with no scratchiness or distortion. Amazing!
Hard to choose a version - love them both!
I've combed the internet for this tune. This is the best I have heard so far. Top notch (bluegrass style).
I love those bluegrass licks great job
This is such a great video and just love both Celtic and Bluegrass, both are such great dance tune and you just can't help having a big smile on your face! Love them and Thank You fo all your videos. Kay
I love both so much because I grew up listening to them both
This is a great video to showcase the comparison between the two different styles.
+Rattlesnake Whispers yet you can see the 'progress' from the Irish (older style) to the Bluegrass....
+Kenni Kuhlmann-Clark yep
I like your renditions of both versions. I have been playing that tune for many years and never heard them quite like that before.
Imagine my great surprize to realize that I have been listening to the bluegrass version and like it best !!!!!!!!! Thanks for educating me, I had no idea there was two different styles
As someone of Irish descent who lives in Newfoundland, I adore trad music. As someone with absolutely zero musical talent, I'm subscribing to your channel nonetheless. This is sooo interesting!
I love them both because I grew up with them both
He plays a grace note then a roll and it's beautiful! Good job
Both styles are Amazing to the ear kin to Irish kin to country folk👏❤️👏❤️
@moonstar....more akin to scottish fiddle reel music as that is where the irish got . there are 100s of scottish fiddle reel tunes in ireland. they also adopted the american bluegrass style..
Your a great fiddle player I really enjoyed it.
Lovely fiddle playing..
I play Irish sessions ( in Ireland) and you'd fit into any of them and be most welcome.
thanks.......that helped opened my eyes/ears!!
Great stuff! You are an inspiration! I’m going to Irish up my version!
this is one of the best videos i have ever seen
I personally like both flavors, it's like german-style sausage vs. italian-style sausage vs. let's say scottish-style sausage none of them is inferior, they just have different flavors, colors, textures, aromata and stuff.
I accept these comparisons
Italian sausage is inferior
True. But Scots fiddle is different than Irish. And Cape Breton is the same as Scots. And this is a jam, these guys didn't all sit around and practice this beforehand: ruclips.net/video/4mATVgE2_KI/видео.html
It's like different accents/dialects of the same language.
I definitely like the Irish version better!
I too
In this case Irish version wins
Here yes, but his rendition of the bluegrass style is simplified.
kinda off topic.. but thats some juicy banjo backup for the bluegrass version :D
Love the jam tracks. Thank you!
Thank you Ian 🌹
Both sound gr8
Hi thank you so much I like so much how you play it's full of life and joy ! I am beginner in violin and want to learn and play more and more and more. I am 30 years old, I live in France and I obviously follow you that I dicover today.
Keep it up. It takes about 2 years of learning technique and about 5 years before you can sound as good as this.
Look up French Canadians playing it - closer to your home.
I believe this tune has French Canadian origin, which both of these styles would have come from. Me thinks that would be closer to Don Messer’s version, with the heavy accents on the 1st beat in the rhythm to cue the dancers for the next section, so they know when to do si do, etc. Ian brings out the old time feeling in these tunes, thank you Mr. Walsh, great to practice with.
I've always associated this tune with Prince Edward Island, but that might just be of "The Ballad of St. Anne's Reel"
@@AnBhfacaTuMoBristi It's certainly not an Irish tune. It's Eastern Canadian!
irish tone did not come from canada dont even think it
@@garymorehouse9334 you are right a canadian tune. the fiddle was introduced into ireland from scotland alang with 100s of scottish fiddle reels(reel music being indigenous to scotland not ireland). here's a few......rakish paddy/jeans reel/ the bucks of oranmore/the boyne hunt/haymakers jig/lucy campbell/musical priest/copper plate and many more. type in......music essays | traditional irish ireland.........then type in.......irish traditional music feature ask about ireland........you will see it's all adopted so it can hardly be traditional irish. then type in........learning about the irish reel dance|irish american mom.........this woman's actually irish who lives in america.....then type in.......history ireland reinventing tradition the boundaries of irish dance helen brennan........you will read where the irish ceili and music came from. then type in.......ireland and the celtic culture in search of ancient ireland.......the word celtic applied to england wales ireland and scotland . in the late 1800s the irish nationalists adopted it as exclusively irish and has been promoted as such ever since. there's a fair chance that reel music would have been in canada before ireland., taken there by earlier scots settlers. the modern irish music started with the clancies in the late 50s then the dubliners in 62 then the furies in the 70s many of their famous sangs are actually scottish or english.(i know because i was around then). irish nationalist adopted the scottish culture and music in the late 1800s to distance themselves from the colonial english. i.e kilts/bagpipes/ceilidths/fiddle reel music/accordian music. look up that famous irish word criac adopted in the 50s ,sean nos in the 40s. type in ...the irish session myth or fact.......these sessions have been in scotland and england for centuries.
love this tune; grew up on don messer and I like this so much that I can't seem to hear much difference in the both styles
That illustrates the French-Canadian origins of the tune.
You play beautifully.
Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing. You are amazing !!!
Soooooo goooood !
Lovely
There's also a Quebec french Canadian style and a Metis style as well they sound a bit different but yet still the same basic tune.
You could combine 'licks' from the Irish version into the bluegrass style on subsequent AABB takes and it would sound fine... slurring, slides and rolls would be welcomed and accepted at any venue.
can you talk about how your gri is differnt to normal that im used to?
Love it
Both styles good.
Awesome
Thanks
Great video.....thank you.
(French) canadian version is the best one.
Both styles are very good but the Irish style is more opted towards Irish set dancing while the Bluegrass style is awesome for Square dancing at a Hioe Down and a overall great old time country dance like at barn dance !
i wonder if you're irish version is a little newer... i don't know... your bluegrass version sounds like we play it in canada and we play everything like its a billion years old up here...
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That fiddle has been played a lot! How old is your instrument? Oh, and by the way, you are so awesome!
It’s 3 years old, just like your poor forgotten comment
Looks like his nails are causing the wear. Most fiddlers keep them shorter than he does and don't have that extreme wear
@@DSteinman It's not an ebony fingerboard and the dye is wearing away. It's probably an old, but cheap fiddle that despite its original price has a nice sound. Some of those old German and French trade instruments can have a surprisingly nice sound.
@@DSteinman Don't be a dick. You play as well as he?
00:35 Irish
02:26 Bluegrass
Make tutorial Toss The Feathers music.
Thank you
This is just Jim Beam vs Jameson but fiddle
This is amazingly informative to a fiddler, unavailable elsewhere.
Strong intonation bow technique and ears for the music. I want that :'(
Both great. I prefer bluegrass
the irish style reminds me of the German children's song 'Meine Oma fährt im Hühnerstall Motorrad' xD
The bluegrass version is a simplified version,easier to learn and play
It has a heavier and more driving rhythm too. At least to my ears.
@Meredith Williams yup it’s not as fiddly
thank you !
you the man
I'd like to hear these tunes unaccompanied, so the style differences on the violin itself stand out more clearly.
this is a Canadian tune played in the Scottish style
You crazy Maritimers are always stirring up trouble......I should know,I married a Cape Bretoner.
you have such amazing finger flexibility!!
Great demonstration and wonderful playing. Could you please tell me about your instrument. The board looks like dyed maple. And the top appears to have a crack. But, boy, does it sound good. Maybe it is an old friend. Thanks again...
I bet the Irish version is fun to play and It s way better
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GOOOOOD!
this guy reminds me of peter kay.
Is there something different between fiddle and violin ? Some people say so , some people not
CI Hwang Nope. But people playing this kind of music (Scottish/Irish/early American/Appalachian/French Canadian etc etc I mean what have you) generally call it the fiddle
It's really just a violin though. But for some reason they need a way of "differentiate" themselves from classical styles
Yes there is, but most;y a matter of minor 'setup' changes, for instance, the bridge (the wooden piece that holds the strings high above the fiddle body, near where the bow slides, toward the players chin) is more arched on a violin and 'flatter' on a fiddle (Irish, Scottish, Cape Breton, bluegrass, etc do more 'double stops' - bowing two strings at once, so a flatter bridge makes that easier.)
No it’s just a different style of music and how u play it. But u still play fiddle on a violin and that’s playing the violin
Is it a alto or a violin?
Interesting. As a small 4 string plectrum banjo player (fiddle tuning), my simple brain stripped out the embellishments and both versions sounded exactly the same to me. Calling it Irish puzzled me. French Canadian, Scots, English, Irish all play it the same and shouldn't claim it as their own without checking. And Celtic includes 4 different nationalities: Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Brittany. I think the tune originated with the French or French-Canadians. Check it out. I did find a very old 78 record with a French recording of a tune with the same A part, but a different B part. A similar name in French I think, but I've lost the link. Originally the Breton settlers in Brittany fled England to France where they became assimilated into France. So maybe the English have a claim to it as well!
ummm..ok?
why do you count before you start? I've only had 3 lessons so far so forgive me if my question seems dumb. Ugh will I ever get to this level? My teacher printed out two lines of Cripple Creek Tuesday, and I've got the notes memorized but I just can't make it flow?! Does the ability to make it flow just come with time or am I doing something wrong?
the tempo (and rhytm)
It takes years and years and years to play like this. Keep practicing.
5 years practicing 1 hour a day and you will get it.
You have to practice ONE hour a day.
Repetition repetition.
Hi Missi, yes counting is very helpful. When I was starting, I found that tapping my foot was helpful. When you learn something new, play it very very slow at first, but correctly and in time. Then gradually speed it up. And as others have said, the violin as a difficult instruments and it takes years of regular practice to become good. So hang in there and keep making music
What's sad is that because the country fiddle (not the bluegrass fiddle in this video) and Irish fiddle sound so similar to my ears, I wouldn't be able to call the Irish version Irish at first
Irish? I thought the song was French Canadian.
I know the song from my wife's family playing it and they're from Cape Breton. Could be French, could be Scottish but I've never known it to be Irish. I could be wrong though.
@@fintanoclery2698 - my family is from Prince Edward Island, but I was born in Sydney N.S. Cape Breton. The song is supposedly from Quebec but written with influences from Irish and Scottish tunes. We know one thing for sure, it’s a great tune, cheers.
@@regortex3364 cheers!
@@fintanoclery2698 i,m scottish but this is an canadian reel . fiddle reel music is indigenous to scotland but was taken to canada by scottish settlers.
@@brucecollins4729 that makes sense, my wife's family who plays this are from Nova Scotia by way of Scotland (a few centuries ago).
The Irish is extremely impressive to watch and hear, but I prefer the bluegrass’ more straightforward, thumping rhythm.
you dont have either version right
What has happened to Ian Walsh?
Seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
BTW there's only 3 chords in Bluegrass and 2 of them are wrong 🤠
bluegrass I like better
Although I'm Irish, I find the Bluegrass version much more fluid.
The bluegrass version seems more chromatically and harmonically adventurous. The celtic version perhaps more rhythmically so.
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Bluegrass rules !!!!
NICE! Did you film a second time to get the fingerings from the new angle?
Linda Peng, I'm sure there are two cameras set up for the different angles.
There's a camera (like a go pro) up under the chin rest. I'm sure the shots were edited together from one performance.
Both versions are nice but both versions are severely lacking in the second part for the proper accompaniment chords! In the second part, the second chord is not a g it's an e minor as the way the canadiens play it ( and Messer and Jackson), it sounds too American to put another G chord in the second part, not to mention (but I will anyway) that it makes the tune much more interesting and beautiful! I'm surprised those who are accompanying him didn't know that!
På loftet sidder nissen
upvote so you can get more views and money to varnish your violin lmao (seriously what's up with the fingerboard traces i'm worried)
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F E D....than ???? I didn't buy the video. I'm fucked then...
When you become a full grown man or woman , you play bluegrass. Gritty double stops, slides, and improvisation, not this flicky diddly airy fairy bullshit.*
*Tongue firmly in cheek!
Christ, would it kill ya to smile?
Bluegrass is so much better than irish
Funny, I was just thinking the opposite.
agree!
hmmm... that didn't show up where I meant it to, I'll rephrase it "I agree, I prefer the first version(Irish)"
The Force Has Breakfast so do I because I'm from Ireland too as you can probably tell from my name
Bluegrass is the little brother of Irish/Scottish music....I like all the styles