I just finished college, all these years of schooling have been mostly miserable. Now I spend a lot of time learning things on youtube for fun and out of curiosity.
@@itsgreattobealive8662 someone tell me how reading 100 pages on any subject is going to teach anyone anything, when the test is 30 Q. Why not just go learn the 30 things? Duh.
He manages to excite the audience (to the point they often interrupted him with all that clapping) and also deliver a clear and thoughtful message. Many people would only do one or the other, most would do neither, he does both. Brilliant.
I often watch this Ted Talk when needing extra encouragement as a home educator. May you Rest In Peace, Sir Ken Robinson. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
As a student this has me spazzing in my chair. This man has put the feeling of " it shouldn't be this way " that I've had for years, into clear common sense words. Almost all school systems work this way and when their blatant faults are put before them they either act incredulous or tell you "this is the way the world works". Thank goodness for this man.
He almost reproduced my economics class in New Zealand. We learn how the systems of supply, demand an scarcity work, which is interesting, but only takes up a small amount of the curriculum. I kid you not, the rest of the year is spent learning how to phrase our answers to questions we will answer at the end of the year, rather than actually learning anything new.
+Jonathan Beaulieu The way the world works, indeed. I could tell you countless stories about the high school science teacher I credit for all the A's I got in his classes, particularly physics. From talking to other students in college, I get the sense that many people hated it because all they did was memorize formulas and do the simplest most mundane lab experiments that hardly related to the outside world at all. Granted, the Rube-Goldberg machine we built as a sort of communal "final exam" didn't relate much either, but the point of it was that we could do something practical with our index card full of equations that we were allowed to reference whenever we needed to. I may have a Creative Writing degree now, but I still use what I learned in high school physics. Trust me, sci-fi comes out so much cooler. Contrast that to Pre-Calc, which I only took for a college credit and now have completely forgotten. If you learn just to pass a test, your ability to care about the subject matter - not to mention remember it - goes downhill fast. And guess what? That's when nobody wants to become a physicist. You could do so much with that subject. Those equations should be tools, not the end goal. Having a head full of facts and no motivation to make them useful is not, in fact, the way the world works. (Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox now.)
+Jon Bolo As a teacher I nearly bawled my eyes out watching this (nearly-qualified) hopefully we can revolutionalize the way we teach our kids from now on.
ill definitely do some reading up on him. heres the thing tho even if our system weren't to stop teaching to tests and start teaching how to think properly and observe and analyze as its supposed to, we could do a lot just to switch to teaching occupational studies and trades. that way even if its still taught similarly theres still a bit of interest on the part of the student to help them excel.
This is why homeschooling works way better! The parents teach the kids things they are interested in. The parents have good motivation to teach the kids well. The kids aren't distracted by stupid classmates, and the kids, at least should love their teachers. another reason schools are so bad, is that they teach evolution, they brainwash children when they are young, there is no evidence for evolution, and a lot of science to support accounts mentioned in the bible. Paying hired teachers minimum wage to teach bratty un-chastised kids evolution, is never going to give them a good education. Studies done by major colleges have shown that homeschooled, and private schooled children learn WAY more than public schooled children, not just a little bit more, but WAY more, if you don't believe me, look it up. Today schools teach kids what to think, and not how to think. On Top of this parents have freedom to punish their children. I'm 15, and have been smacked everytime I do something wrong, and I can honestly say that I can not be more happy about it, just looking at kids that don't get punished, and how badly they act.
Iv been listening to audiobooks in my free time. I’m working my way through the history of Julius Cesar. School somehow kills incentive to lean. Idk maybe it’s that it’s just handed to us.
Yeah for sure, my best memories are from those, even like the ones only 1 day long, the longer the better for sure though. It makes you feel really strange because suddenly you were all studying and competing for the best grades and then just relaxing and visiting museums or sites with basically people that are so similar to you and yet basically strangers
I hated field trips... being shunted about in a bus with a mass of kids to some place no one chose and has a say in... I preferred organising my own life and trips and holidays and every day life thanks
My class was having an argument with our homeroom teacher the other day about how we never learn anything practical at school, just endless pointless maths formulas and the day so and so died that no one honestly cares about. The common trend is that we memorize everything right before a test, we pass the test and within the next week we forget everything to make room for new information. What is the point of education if we're not actually learning anything? We want to learn about things are actually _useful_ to us; how to change a tire, how to pay your taxes, how to raise children, how to manage relationships, how to manage our money, how can I make a difference in the world, what can I personally do to prevent climate change, world hunger, etc. etc. You know what the teachers answered? "That's not my problem, I can't do anything. The government makes the standards, I have to follow them, _there is nothing you or I can do about it._" How can teachers with no passion, no drive, _no backbone to speak of_, that blindly follow a system that they themselves know to be incorrect, teach a generation how to be free thinking individuals? We are not being educated, we are being brainwashed to be complacent. To be unquestioning. To be a good employee; smart enough to do the job but just dumb enough not to ask questions.
Alex Gluch I'm good at a lot of things, but I think there's a lot more to life than just pursuing what you're good at. I want to make a difference in the world, for other people. I know I'm just a kid but everyone starts somewhere, and the only way to fail is to never even try. Well, I suppose if you can find a way to use what you're good at to help other people then that's even better,..
Anonymous anon Trust me man, no amount of good grades and pats on the head are ever going to make you "intelligent." Intelligence isn't something that can be defined by a test score. Some of the dumbest people alive have been geniuses on paper; the opposite is also true. To paraphrase Einstein, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
Justin Dettloff You know changing education is actually even harder than changing Americas native language from English to Chinese because this pathetic education system has been here since the 1800s, changing the system would litewlly be like changing the way humans interpret knowledge, this isnt easier said than done
Tyrannosaurus Rex Actually the education systems have been this way since about the time Sparta and the Athens were thriving (the way of teaching my have been different but the subjects are all just about the same, ex. science and math).
@@accey6990 We have to truly over the government with the new generation, and those from the old ruling family has to be removed from leadership for this change is to happen. There is an incentive for incompetent leaders to make their citizen dumber and easier to manipulate.
I love Sir Ken Robinson. He's so right. I've been teaching for 20 years and left. I left because I didn't agree with the direction that education was going. I didn't agree with Restorative Justice or passing laws stating that a very disruptive student can't be removed from the classroom so no one learns. I truly adored my students. I was constantly thinking and looking for ways to make the "curriculum" interesting, fun, and and a place you want to come to. I've succeeded many times. I'm a hands-on teacher so it was a lot of work. But I taught my 7th graders how to scale large objects. Took them on field trips where they had to accomplish different tasks. One of my most rewarding moments was when one of my students said that he "didn't know science could be so fun". And yet I was routinely given "bad students". The kids that were difficult to teach while the other teachers would only teach AP students, Honors students, etc. But they said very clearly that they ONLY teach high level students. Funny but my license looked just like theirs. So I told the registrar to just give them to me. I dislike the politics in the Administration where they do your evaluation but the first time they score you very bad and then the last evaluation they walk around proclaiming how effective you were. Great, Fantastic. So I asked someone how can you change so much from one evaluation to the next and the answer was that the Administration has to show improvement. To me, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The last school I taught in there were more teachers leaving than staying. There has to be a better way to evaluate teachers. Because I could be great in one school and then suddenly you're doing nothing right. I do miss some things in education. The students I taught but there are somethings I won't miss.
This is why homeschooling works way better! The parents teach the kids things they are interested in. The parents have good motivation to teach the kids well. The kids aren't distracted by stupid classmates, and the kids, at least should love their teachers. another reason schools are so bad, is that they teach evolution, they brainwash children when they are young, there is no evidence for evolution, and a lot of science to support accounts mentioned in the bible. Paying hired teachers minimum wage to teach bratty un-chastised kids evolution, is never going to give them a good education. Studies done by major colleges have shown that homeschooled, and private schooled children learn WAY more than public schooled children, not just a little bit more, but WAY more, if you don't believe me, look it up. Ontop of all this, the parents are free to punish bad behavior of any child. I'm 15 years old, and got smacked hard every time i've done something wrong, and I honestly can not be more glad about it, looking at all these children who don't get punished, and how they act.
@FlyingMonkies325 Kids are bratty, and selfish, and naughty. It is caused not by problems, or undeveloped brains. It is caused by sin. People have forgotten God, and live how they want, and the bad behavior of both children, and parents these days, are the result. If you really don't think kids act badly, then I invite you to come visit my church. We honestly would love to have anyone visit, even if you disagree with every single thing we believe. I guarantee you the kids you would see (we have a lot of them) would all be way better behaved, and more respectful than 99% of public school kids, even public school teens. We have kids that are in public school, and kids that have anger management problems, but they are all less crude, and horrible acting than most non-Christian public school kids. That is because of discipline, at an early age that instills respect, and shows them what is right, and wrong. Like I said in my last comment, I am 15 years old (I don't claim to be intelligent btw), and have been smacked every time i've done something wrong, and I can honestly not be more grateful for it. I really don't mean this in a bragging way, but there have been numerous occasions when we, and our friends have been told, that we are by far the most well mannered, and well behaved kids, that people had ever seen. As far as "holding kids back" on purpose?!?! what on earth is that supposed to achieve? it makes much more sense that kids should be given a basic standard of schooling, and then be free to experiment in the subjects that they enjoy. It also makes much more sense that they be taught by people that actually care about them, then by people working on government salaries, to try and teach them very VERY basic curriculum. Children, and teens are also not incapable of doing harder work, and actually expanding their brains. My best friend has not graduated high school, but the homeschool curriculum that he does (classical conversations) is college level, and its hard, but everyone in his "class" is managing, not to mention that they enjoy it more, than public schoolers enjoy school, or that they are way more learned than most public schoolers. Another one of my friends is public schooled, and recently graduated high school, and is so smart, and well brought up, that almost every college he could have applied at would have accepted him, (he is now studying music). By the way, I feel personally insulted that you say just because I am a teenager my brain is not developed enough to understand complex emotions, and concepts. I can very well enough understand many complex emotions, and concepts. I know who I would vote for in the election, (if I could vote) I know that I believe in God, (not because my parents tell me too, they don't tell me too, even though they believe in God) I know what economic system I support, and why I support it. children are much smarter than adults realise, and they know it, the kids use that knowledge to get out of hard work, by screaming, and crying, and throwing a tantrum, because they know the parents won't punish them. Just so you remember, this is all coming from someone who was a young kid not very long ago. I am truly interested in what your response will be!
@FlyingMonkies325 Well, I don't know what that means, but I am assuming it is an insult. I see that you were completely stumped by logical reasoning, and completely lost this debate. Have a nice good day!
lol i just commented that what he said is cool and all, but an utopia. Humans aren't that smart do put that into practice. otherwise we would already done it.
Yes, Common Core was instituted enforcing even MORE of these same practices (& they want to expand the length of school days & for kids to go 6 days/week). Too bad no one's offered an alternative. OH WAIT... Betsy DeVos, our Sec't of Ed. HAS! Her "School of Choice Voucher Program" keeps getting rejected for a vote from the House of Representatives! *MANY* ppl are claiming it's racist, even though some of the BEST Charter Schools are in Harlem, but are having a near impossible time staying open due to funding (check out "The Boys' Latin School of Harlem". They were REFUSED opening a "Girls' Latin School of Harlem" recently by Mayor Bill DeBlasio!).
You REALLY have NOT been paying attention! It's working IMPOSSIBLY WELL for teachers/professors/schools!! In my county the teachers managed to finagle one "half-day" every week. After all, 180 work days a year would kill ANY hot-house-flower. Initially scheduled for Wednesdays, WHO KNEW it would almost immediately morph to Fridays....OF COURSE FOLLOWED by a limit of one Friday a month requiring the "teacher" to stay in the classroom. MAKE THAT 162 actual full-days work a YEAR....
spartjovic, isn't it wonderful to realize that you can learn what you want at your own pace without the bullshit, competition and shaming that school "offers"?
“Let the minutes reflect that sense was made for a period of 20 minutes during the meeting before proceeding to the question of whether math has become too gay.”
It gets only marginally better in post-grad levels. I have a doctorate and I still feel that way with all the governmental red tape in the way of me doing my damn job
1. Human beings are naturally different and diverse. 2. Curiosity. In place of curiosity what we have is a culture of compliance. 3. Human life is inherently creative.
mine not even that. mine's been paying and trying to show up and fulfill all those meaningless tasks that allow you to even take the exam. im so beat up by the system by the time i get to an exam im done
How does anybody know you understand it without the test. The test proves you learned it. If you learn enough stuff you can get hired for different jobs or get accepted into universities. Part if it is a test to see if you can deal with boring work. Because some jobs are boring. But you get paid at least
This great man passed away in 2020 aged 70 . His childhood story of poverty and illness would bring you to tears and yet he triumphed over it . He spent the greater part of his life fighting to ensure that others ( of any race or denomination ) could have the chance to do the same. And yet if you stopped 100 people at random in the Street they would not know who he is / was. Ken would have thought that unimportant and carried on the fight and we should do the same !
It takes true talent to be able to deliver such great insight on such a nuanced topic, not only with absolute grace, but also with a touch of comedy. This man is truly brilliant.
Who is here after learning about his passing? 😭 Rest in peace, dear sir. Rest in peace. You've inspired many including myself, and we'll do our best to continue carrying your torch.
Yes😔🙏, and your death will not be the downfall⬇️ nor will it ever be the reason why the Education Reformation Movement✊ will end🚫, for I too will continue to hold this torch🔥 and will continue on my New Education System🔆 plans. I've made a discord with my friends together to dicuss about it just recently and I'd like invite you to it as well🤝.
Factory workers don't need to go to school. So no. It was designed to turn children into radical progressives and/or Marxists, by radical Marxists and progressives.
Precisely why I left 20 yrs of teaching and took my 13 yr old with me. Unschooled for 3 yrs he's finally able to sort out his true interests and abilities. Schools use a metric that leaves 90% feeling inadequate and "less than" - because of the depersonalization of standards testing data machines with 35 kids and one teacher - all under the disguise of effciency. Add in the fact automation will replace 90% or more of all college degrees' purpose and you have a basis for desperate fears that lead to rampant substance abuse/suicide - designed thanks to BigPharma and their mindless cor-pirate creep towards getting everyone habituated to dependence and addiction - grooming all for BigInsurance and the lucrative rehab system - ALL PART OF THE GODDAMN STATUS QUO GOVT WAR ON PEOPLE. And the sick irony is their *best* customers are those who go by their rules - the straight A Achievers - that feed corporate greed while setting a FALSE standard used to create standardized testing - and the monster feeds itself.
@@TheJdmartinjax "automation will replace 90% or more of all college degrees' purpose" Dunno where you get that idea. Engineering degrees can't be automated because there's too much decision making involved. IT degrees can't be automated for the same reason. I'm positive business degrees can't be automated; they're too tied up in human behavior. Science degrees are supposed to teach you to discover _new_ things that haven't occurred to anyone before, so that can't be automated. Literary analysis isn't automatable since it's subjective. History can't be automated because it deals with trying to discover unknowns and connect between different events using information that a machine couldn't access, much less analyze. And art? lol, what, just automatically generate something at random? Okay, I can give you that one. There are useless degrees, of course, but since no one gets paid to actually do those, they're not going to be automated. I can't think of a degree where the subject matter, if taught seriously and in a remotely useful manner, can be automated. Automatable jobs don't require a degree.
I don't even feel like I'm learning anything in school anymore. I love to learn new things but now a days it's just memorizing dates and equations to pass an exam. I believe the exam should be made by our minds. As in we should challenge our selves in the things we enjoy and are curious for, but that's just my dream...
I third, but it really depends on the teacher. My history teacher last year was great, and I actually enjoyed going to his class. This year I feel the exact opposite because I've written 3 essays in 1 1/2 months. That's neither fun nor engaging, and I learn so much less because of it.
If exams were what they claim to be, they wouldn't warn you of when the exam is going to be. If they wanted to find out how good you are at the subject you'd be tested at random. Because they warn you, they are measuring how good you are at passing exams, not how good you are at the subject. They know everyone is just cramming for a few days before with no intention of remembering nor undestanding. They know this, and they know no parents would challenge this aspect of their child getting good marks. They know this.... good the marks make THEM look good. If you score well in A subject, you are just the same as all the others, you have worked for years and got no advantage.
Well, it never was from the start. I might have gotten it wrong but out of listening to Seth Godin who explained how schools were brought up, it was all about teaching obedience to authority. Schools (for everyone) became common during the industrial revolution. It was about making good workers who could follow instructions and be brainwashed into paying respect. It's sad to see the main concept still remain in most schools.
For anyone watching this take a moment and appreciate that this is one of ways that we can enjoy Sir Ken Robinson as he was passed away Aug 2020. Definitely watch this with a very grateful heart that he has left us with something beautiful to learn from.
"If you sit kids down hour after hour doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they fidget." Someone stop this man before he starts making sense!
As a parent my top job was to observe what my kids are interested, good at or have a propensity for........ ........and enable, facilitate and to help guide them early on to focus on their talents and strengths. Without judgement. My 2 cents.
Saaaame, my kids are very different from the other my son loves anything animal, dinosaurs, bugs, he just turned 4 and can tell you the names by pictures. My daughter is gonna be 3 and shes just has a huge passion for art, patterns, textures, food lol. And she's VERY determined to achieve what she wants. Ill definitely be giving my 2 cents to any school they go too.
That has been my approach. Early, we did all the reading and fine motor skills. As our son got to the point that he expressed interest in something, we facilitated exposure and access to those things. Some things were mastered and led to further development in that area. Other things were explored and exhausted or left behind due to lack of more interest. It has gone this way throughout his life, and he has developed a mind that is beyond anything I could have achieved in the wrote repetition of standardized testing. He does well on the tests, carries a straight A report card; but there is more. He is a musician and artist in several areas, despite the education provided by the state. I firmly believe that the stimulus we provided access to developed his brain beyond the confines of standardized testing, and we are confident he will continue to excel.
Homeschooling our kids have been the BEST decision we have ever made. Both graduated 2-3 years early from high school and now in college with honors. We were told when they were little they would not be socialized, would never go to college or never learn anything. They were very wrong. I HIGHLY recommend people learn more about this option. I'm not saying it is for everyone...but many might find it a great choice for their family. :)
What about bringing what you know to others? Most won't even have this option. The other thing, don't tell them the ideas are hard. Mess up any progress.
@@PhilippeLarcher I congratulate your effort. But to be truthful what you seem to be advocating depresses me. You're saying we should all turn our backs on public education. Your children were lucky enough to have parents who could afford to homeschool and could accomplish it. But many, many parents can't afford or accomplish homeschooling. If they are single parent families or both parents must work two jobs to survive in their local economy, like Seattle if you are not in technology or medical sciences or are an intellectual. What of these families? The thought of turning my back on public education feels like defeat to me. But I can understand the choice. It's your kids or these families, right. That's a no choice question. And this is America.
I need to know more. What 'high school' did they graduate early from? What 'college' are they now attending 'with honors?' What did your curriculum at home teach about The Big Bang, Evolutionary Theory, and the age of the universe?
12:44 Here is a quote I know: "We teach students, not lessons." Also, love this guy! 15:36 The more I learn about teaching and parenting and marriage, the more I believe that what we must use for people who have the hardest time with things (those with autism, learning liabilities, etc.) are the things that tend to work best for everyone else, too. I thought it really sad when in the beginning he said schools focus on exams so much that kids are only learning so they can pass, and then he said it doesn't HAVE to be that way. As I tried to imagine that, I thought, "You mean they are learning to LEARN?" (Like, learning for its own sake? Because they like it?) I realized then that I am caught in the trap, too!!
I love Sir Robinson's sense of humor he uses so cleverly to drive home his point of view on some very serious issues. Kids of today almost do not seem allowed to "suffer from childhood". So we have come full circle from Victorian times when children were supposed to be seen but not heard and behave like miniature adults or work 12-14 hour workdays depending on your social status, to a situation where children are completely planned virtually from the day they are conceived (which kindergarden should we enroll in) to extra-curricular activities (they will need Mandarin in a global economy). There are many ways to stifle creativity and curiosity. What scares me most is how far removed the coming generations are from "mother nature". How can you cherish and protect something you know nothing about?
Aye🙏, For I understand that some things will not be changed (for some love it for the way things are), but that won't stop those who seek to be, in creating a new system instead!
For me, I had made a discord server with my friends and I do have plans to really do it afterwards. Also, here's the link🙏: disboard.org/server/717846393074614435
0:13 Thank you very much. 0:16 I moved to America 12 years ago with my wife Terry and our two kids. Actually, truthfully, we moved to Los Angeles -- (Laughter) thinking we were moving to America, but anyway -- (Laughter) It's a short plane ride from Los Angeles to America. (Laughter) 0:38 I got here 12 years ago, and when I got here, I was told various things, like, "Americans don't get irony." (Laughter) Have you come across this idea? It's not true. I've traveled the whole length and breadth of this country. I have found no evidence that Americans don't get irony. It's one of those cultural myths, like, "The British are reserved." (Laughter) I don't know why people think this. We've invaded every country we've encountered. (Laughter) But it's not true Americans don't get irony, but I just want you to know that that's what people are saying about you behind your back. You know, so when you leave living rooms in Europe, people say, thankfully, nobody was ironic in your presence. (Laughter) 1:28 But I knew that Americans get irony when I came across that legislation, "No Child Left Behind." (Laughter) Because whoever thought of that title gets irony. (Laughter) Don't they? (Applause) Because it's leaving millions of children behind. Now I can see that's not a very attractive name for legislation: "Millions of Children Left Behind." I can see that. What's the plan? We propose to leave millions of children behind, and here's how it's going to work. 2:05 And it's working beautifully. (Laughter) In some parts of the country, 60 percent of kids drop out of high school. In the Native American communities, it's 80 percent of kids. If we halved that number, one estimate is it would create a net gain to the U.S. economy over 10 years, of nearly a trillion dollars. From an economic point of view, this is good math, isn't it, that we should do this? It actually costs an enormous amount to mop up the damage from the dropout crisis. 2:41 But the dropout crisis is just the tip of an iceberg. What it doesn't count are all the kids who are in school but being disengaged from it, who don't enjoy it, who don't get any real benefit from it. 2:54 And the reason is not that we're not spending enough money. America spends more money on education than most other countries. Class sizes are smaller than in many countries. And there are hundreds of initiatives every year to try and improve education. The trouble is, it's all going in the wrong direction. There are three principles on which human life flourishes, and they are contradicted by the culture of education under which most teachers have to labor and most students have to endure. 3:28 The first is this, that human beings are naturally different and diverse. 3:35 Can I ask you, how many of you have got children of your own? Okay. Or grandchildren. How about two children or more? Right. And the rest of you have seen such children. (Laughter) Small people wandering about. (Laughter) I will make you a bet, and I am confident that I will win the bet. If you've got two children or more, I bet you they are completely different from each other. Aren't they? (Applause) You would never confuse them, would you? Like, "Which one are you? Remind me." (Laughter) "Your mother and I need some color-coding system so we don't get confused." 4:21 Education under "No Child Left Behind" is based on not diversity but conformity. What schools are encouraged to do is to find out what kids can do across a very narrow spectrum of achievement. One of the effects of "No Child Left Behind" has been to narrow the focus onto the so-called STEM disciplines. They're very important. I'm not here to argue against science and math. On the contrary, they're necessary but they're not sufficient. A real education has to give equal weight to the arts, the humanities, to physical education. An awful lot of kids, sorry, thank you -- (Applause) One estimate in America currently is that something like 10 percent of kids, getting on that way, are being diagnosed with various conditions under the broad title of attention deficit disorder. ADHD. I'm not saying there's no such thing. I just don't believe it's an epidemic like this. If you sit kids down, hour after hour, doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they start to fidget, you know? (Laughter) (Applause) Children are not, for the most part, suffering from a psychological condition. They're suffering from childhood. (Laughter) And I know this because I spent my early life as a child. I went through the whole thing. Kids prosper best with a broad curriculum that celebrates their various talents, not just a small range of them. And by the way, the arts aren't just important because they improve math scores. They're important because they speak to parts of children's being which are otherwise untouched. 6:13 The second, thank you -- (Applause) 6:19 The second principle that drives human life flourishing is curiosity. If you can light the spark of curiosity in a child, they will learn without any further assistance, very often. Children are natural learners. It's a real achievement to put that particular ability out, or to stifle it. Curiosity is the engine of achievement. Now the reason I say this is because one of the effects of the current culture here, if I can say so, has been to De-professionalize teachers. There is no system in the world or any school in the country that is better than its teachers. Teachers are the lifeblood of the success of schools. But teaching is a creative profession. Teaching, properly conceived, is not a delivery system. You know, you're not there just to pass on received information. Great teachers do that, but what great teachers also do is mentor, stimulate, provoke, engage. You see, in the end, education is about learning. If there's no learning going on, there's no education going on. And people can spend an awful lot of time discussing education without ever discussing learning. The whole point of education is to get people to learn. 7:40 An old friend of mine -- actually very old, he's dead. (Laughter) That's as old as it gets, I'm afraid. (Laughter) But a wonderful guy he was, wonderful philosopher. He used to talk about the difference between the task and achievement senses of verbs. You can be engaged in the activity of something, but not really be achieving it, like dieting. (Laughter) It's a very good example. There he is. He's dieting. Is he losing any weight? Not really. (Laughter) Teaching is a word like that. You can say, "There's Deborah, she's in room 34, she's teaching." But if nobody's learning anything, she may be engaged in the task of teaching but not actually fulfilling it. 8:29 The role of a teacher is to facilitate learning. That's it. And part of the problem is, I think, that the dominant culture of education has come to focus on not teaching and learning, but testing. Now, testing is important. Standardized tests have a place. But they should not be the dominant culture of education. They should be diagnostic. They should help. (Applause) If I go for a medical examination, I want some standardized tests. I do. I want to know what my cholesterol level is compared to everybody else's on a standard scale. I don't want to be told on some scale my doctor invented in the car. (Laughter) 9:15 "Your cholesterol is what I call Level Orange." 9:17 "Really?" (Laughter) "Is that good?" "We don't know." (Laughter) 9:23 But all that should support learning. It shouldn't obstruct it, which of course it often does. So in place of curiosity, what we have is a culture of compliance. Our children and teachers are encouraged to follow routine algorithms rather than to excite that power of imagination and curiosity. And the third principle is this: that human life is inherently creative. It's why we all have different résumés. We create our lives, and we can recreate them as we go through them. It's the common currency of being a human being. It's why human culture is so interesting and diverse and dynamic. I mean, other animals may well have imaginations and creativity, but it's not so much in evidence, is it, as ours? I mean, you may have a dog. And your dog may get depressed. You know, but it doesn't listen to Radiohead, does it? (Laughter) And sit staring out the window with a bottle of Jack Daniels. (Laughter) 10:28 "Would you like to come for a walk?" "No, I'm fine." 10:31 (Laughter) "You go. I'll wait. But take pictures." (Laughter) 10:38 We all create our own lives through this restless process of imagining alternatives and possibilities, and one of the roles of education is to awaken and develop these powers of creativity. Instead, what we have is a culture of standardization. 10:53 Now, it doesn't have to be that way. It really doesn't. Finland regularly comes out on top in math, science and reading. Now, we only know that's what they do well at, because that's all that's being tested. That's one of the problems of the test. They don't look for other things that matter just as much. The thing about work in Finland is this: they don't obsess about those disciplines. They have a very broad approach to education, which includes humanities, physical education, the arts. 11:24 Second, there is no standardized testing in Finland. I mean, there's a bit, but it's not what gets people up in the morning, what keeps them at their desks. 11:35 The third thing -- and I was at a meeting recently with some people from Finland, actual Finnish people, and somebody from the American system was saying to the people in Finland, "What do you do about the drop-out rate in Finland?" 11:48 And they all looked a bit bemused, and said, "Well, we don't have one. Why would you drop out? If people are in trouble, we get to them quite quickly and we help and support them." 11:59 Now people always say, "Well, you know, you can't compare Finland to America." 12:04 No. I think there's a population of around five million in Finland. But you can compare it to a state in America. Many states in America have fewer people in them than that. I mean, I've been to some states in America and I was the only person there. (Laughter) Really. Really. I was asked to lock up when I left. (Laughter) 12:29 But what all the high-performing systems in the world do is currently what is not evident, sadly, across the systems in America -- I mean, as a whole. One is this: they individualize teaching and learning. They recognize that it's students who are learning and the system has to engage them, their curiosity, their individuality, and their creativity. That's how you get them to learn. 12:58 The second is that they attribute a very high status to the teaching profession. They recognize that you can't improve education if you don't pick great people to teach and keep giving them constant support and professional development. Investing in professional development is not a cost. It's an investment, and every other country that's succeeding well knows that, whether it's Australia, Canada, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong or Shanghai. They know that to be the case. 13:29 And the third is, 13:30 they devolve responsibility to the school level for getting the job done. You see, there's a big difference here between going into a mode of command and control in education -- That's what happens in some systems. Central or state governments decide, they know best and they're going to tell you what to do. The trouble is that education doesn't go on in the committee rooms of our legislative buildings. It happens in classrooms and schools, and the people who do it are the teachers and the students, and if you remove their discretion, it stops working. You have to put it back to the people. (Applause) 14:13 There is wonderful work happening in this country. But I have to say it's happening in spite of the dominant culture of education, not because of it. It's like people are sailing into a headwind all the time. And the reason I think is this: that many of the current policies are based on mechanistic conceptions of education. It's like education is an industrial process that can be improved just by having better data, and somewhere in the back of the mind of some policy makers is this idea that if we fine-tune it well enough, if we just get it right, it will all hum along perfectly into the future. It won't, and it never did. 14:54 The point is that education is not a mechanical system. It's a human system. It's about people, people who either do want to learn or don't want to learn. Every student who drops out of school has a reason for it which is rooted in their own biography. They may find it boring. They may find it irrelevant. They may find that it's at odds with the life they're living outside of school. There are trends, but the stories are always unique. I was at a meeting recently in Los Angeles of -- they're called alternative education programs. These are programs designed to get kids back into education. They have certain common features. They're very personalized. They have strong support for the teachers, close links with the community and a broad and diverse curriculum, and often programs which involve students outside school as well as inside school. And they work. What's interesting to me is, these are called "alternative education." (Laughter) You know? And all the evidence from around the world is, if we all did that, there'd be no need for the alternative. (Applause) (Applause ends) 16:13 So I think we have to embrace a different metaphor. We have to recognize that it's a human system, and there are conditions under which people thrive, and conditions under which they don't. We are after all organic creatures, and the culture of the school is absolutely essential. Culture is an organic term, isn't it? 16:34 Not far from where I live is a place called Death Valley. Death Valley is the hottest, driest place in America, and nothing grows there. Nothing grows there because it doesn't rain. Hence, Death Valley. In the winter of 2004, it rained in Death Valley. Seven inches of rain fell over a very short period. And in the spring of 2005, there was a phenomenon. The whole floor of Death Valley was carpeted in flowers for a while. What it proved is this: that Death Valley isn't dead. It's dormant. Right beneath the surface are these seeds of possibility waiting for the right conditions to come about, and with organic systems, if the conditions are right, life is inevitable. It happens all the time. You take an area, a school, a district, you change the conditions, give people a different sense of possibility, a different set of expectations, a broader range of opportunities, you cherish and value the relationships between teachers and learners, you offer people the discretion to be creative and to innovate in what they do, and schools that were once bereft spring to life. 17:56 Great leaders know that. The real role of leadership in education -- and I think it's true at the national level, the state level, at the school level -- is not and should not be command and control. The real role of leadership is climate control, creating a climate of possibility. And if you do that, people will rise to it and achieve things that you completely did not anticipate and couldn't have expected. 18:23 There's a wonderful quote from Benjamin Franklin. "There are three sorts of people in the world: Those who are immovable, people who don't get it, or don't want to do anything about it; there are people who are movable, people who see the need for change and are prepared to listen to it; and there are people who move, people who make things happen." And if we can encourage more people, that will be a movement. And if the movement is strong enough, that's, in the best sense of the word, a revolution. And that's what we need. 18:55 Thank you very much. (Applause) Thank you very much. (Applause)
One of the best TED speeches on education I've ever watched. I'm glad to come across this video, but also sad as this gentleman passed away last year. R.I.P Sir Ken Robinson
Likewise pal....I was very dyslexic , left school at 15 ( 1960 ) worked in my father's engineering business... 12 years later I was designing and consulting world wide.... Being dyslexic I lost the millions I made ((so believing and trusting in the honesty of business men .....I thought a handshake was their bond )) NEVER TAUGHT US HOW TO NEGOTIATE OR WARN US OF BUSINESS WHEELER DEALERS.... I'm now longing for some serious civil unrest to vent my anger , upon a certain race , where 90% of my life and money went.. ....
@Philip Manousakis probably. I've seen a fair share of 'teachers' where I live who aren't inclined in teaching but somehow landed a teaching job. They teach centralized syllabus to earn a huge sum. Most teachers who are creative don't even enter the current educational system because it strips off their freedom to teach children to be curious, question, etc. The sort of politics involved is shameful. Hence, most teachers.
this guy is pure genius. Some kids have different strengths and weaknesses which are not acknowledged enough. And I know how this feels. I wish the school system could be improved to incorporate this.
"If you sit kids down hour after hour doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they start to fidget." I literally clapped along with the audience.
Very few orators on TED have ever captivated me the way Sir Ken Robinson did today. I regret finding this masterpiece of a presentation so late in life. Every word he speaks exudes a calming aura, yet simple truths that need to be worked upon with graveness. Education is a process, a journey; not the destination. It was only because of my family's constant support and encouragement, RUclips and channels like Discovery and National Geographic that I was able to retain my curiosity and passion to learn through my years of schooling. I hope that one day, we can all make enough noise to bring about a change in this system of education and make it more appealing and attractive for the future generations.
Finland has the shortest school days, least amount of homework, and fewest amount of Standardized tests and ACTs, yet they are the smartest, most successful, most rounded students and people in the world. And school never causes anxiety, stress, nor depression.
@@paulmcgovern6660 Given how East Asia fares that's no exception, especially when the means are as available, it's to be expected (and well addressed by programmes this decade).
I love science too! Im 14 and Ive got a little electronics/computer lab set up in my walk in cupboard. Its a nice little room with some windows for great ventilation and I have a soldering station, tektronix 2225 oscilloscope, fluke multimeter, white board, a cool old windows vista computer (for doing stuff like spreadsheets), a CRT monitor with an RF input, 30V 1A power supply + much more. Science is an amazing subject and if you are good at mathematics and computer stuff like coding it can even be way better. I wish more of my youth loved science because it really helps me to not just understand the world around me, but its fun and helps me challenge my brain especially the algebra and computer coding side of things. Anyway great to see you like science Mr. Injian it really is a great subject and I've loved it all my life much more than English and Phys Ed.
I love an instructor who inspires me and motivates me to learn. Unfortunately, many teachers teach robotically and just there to collect their paychecks.
education is definitely an issue in the united states. my daughter is 10 and i had to teach her about the difference between countries and continents. she didn't even know Mexico was a separate country from the united states. So i started asking her what she learned each day after school, and she would ALWAYS say math for at least half the day then 15 minutes of reading then more online math. ridiculous. plus the fact that her curriculum is now common core, so i can't really help her with her homework because they use a different method of learning math. she used to be excited about learning but now she has reservations. she had been programmed to think learning is boring and tedious work. I fear for her future in school so now i am taking proactive action to make sure she is well rounded in her education
I would highly recommend trying to enroll your kid in an International Baccalaureate (IB) school. They are in my opinion MUCH better than AP schools because it really does challenge you, it makes you a much much better thinker, it actually does have a equal balance between the arts, maths, science, history, physical education and foreign language. It is much more writing intensive (there are barely any multiple choice tests) and has a focus on students developing a world view. I just recently graduated from a IB school and I would seriously recommend you search it up and see if there are any near you. Oh and don't worry they're not private schools or anything, a school chooses to become IB.
I'm sorry. I thought maybe things had improved since I graduated 10 years ago. All my most important learning took place outside of school. For your daughter, perhaps it will be the same. It's the only thing we can do until this broken system is fixed.
That's why homeschooling is becoming more popular, because common core is utter crap. I was homeschooled, and I am eternally grateful to my parents for making that choice, because I am ahead of nearly everyone I know in college who went to public school. With a few exceptions, most other students I have asked have told me that they had to take remedial math or English classes after enrolling, setting them back up to 2-3 semesters. If you want your kids to have a better education, look into some homeschooling programs. My family used Seton, but there are others out there that might be better suited for some people. Do some research. Homeschooling is a difficult commitment, but is worth the extra effort.
Sir Ken and Finland have it right. I taught in 2 colleges, 56 middle and high schools and 2 elementaries. I was seeking inspired administrators who got great staff and created a great learning atmosphere. There are a few out there but we need about 100,000 more.
I guess many countrys are to proud to just look outwards and ask finland for example, how they got their school system to be so damn good. That is why I particulary like politicians that look for an international approach. Great teachers are currently kept underneath their potential by the school system, which is quite disturbing, when I think about children being the future. Many Greeting from Germany.
I remember being bored a lot in school. But I learned that boredom is very good for you, because boredom gets you to think. So ironically, my school fulfilled its purpose.
nowadays its less about boredom and more about work you until you fall over and also ur told everything wrong with education is ur fault and if u don't shape up to what the state decides is best for you then any knowledge you might have isnt worth a damn.
@@Natnaeltekola that is the fake parameter put there by the religious dogma establishment - the whole good vs evil argument was invented by the shitheels to draw attn away from those that set the fire. Same with 9/11 and going back 10,000 years.
Bingo. Add to that the great “equality “ among races mantra and now you know how politically incorrect it would be for genetics to rear it’s ugly head.
Guess what, once AI can replace these workers, that's when majority truly don't matter no more. Well it's not like anyone cared for them from the get go.
7:41 This is truly a genius way of 'announcing' the death of a person. If this were brought differently, people would've been sad, shocked or appalled, but instead people cracked up.
I feel I was very lucky. I stumbled into education by accident. Spent 28 years teaching "History"; the most boring subject many people can think of. We, the students and I, discussed many topics and offered reasons as to why they occurred. The events were attached to the story therefore gave "It" meaning. Every day I taught I learned more and more from my students. I feel very fortunate and blessed to have found a profession I came to love. Looking back can think of nothing I had rather have done.
The school systems’ teachers aren’t the ones who need to hear this, though he is EXACTLY right. It’s the politicians and other government (so called) leaders who make decisions regarding the “rules” that public schools must adhere to, most of whom have never darkened the doors of the schools within their district. .
"They're suffering from childhood." 5:45 Yes, I understand what he means. People would consider me a child, but I feel as if I have grown up too fast. I don't get enough time to myself or to do what I enjoy. "Curiosity." 6:25 No one has lighted my spark, yet there is one subject I love and would enjoy learning about. However, I am not allowed to focus too much on it for others hold values such as being good at math or ELA. I usually strive in those subjects, yet only because I am pushed too. There are few things I enjoy, and I just wish I could pursue my dreams. There are MANY other wonderful things in this video. It is 2019 yet this speech is still very educational. Thank you Mr. Robinson.
5:04. ADHD “if you set kids down hour after hour doing low grade clerical work, don’t be surprised if they start to fidget...they are suffering from childhood...”
Currently a highschool student and I find that I really have trouble focusing in school and I feel like I’m tired all the time no matter how much sleep I get. Any tips?
@@TotalNigelFargothDeath Brake news! Suicide and depression rate just decreased by 75%!!!! All of this because a RUclips comment!!!! "Stop being depressed." said the madlad!!!!
I have just started listening to these talks and support 100%. As a teacher of 40+ years experience every single thing he says is right. I despair of a system, truly supporting education, who doesn't take these words of wisdom on board.
AND from Finnish parenting. Honestly, finish pupils are SO different. You can't compare them! You cannot simply take the Finnish system and think that it will work perfectly with non-Finnish children....
I'm a Vietnamese (well you can forget my name, it's just a pseudonym) and I can tell you that Vietnamese gov don't seem to want to develop a better education. Our university entrance exam is held nationally every year, with the same regulations, the same tests, the same questions and is taken only once a year. This exam is so important that it can actually determine your whole future, and yet the gov change exam regulations every single year, making students and parents and teachers confusing and stressed, especially students. This year, for example, regulations for the university entrance exam are changed when there are only 3 months left until the day the exam starts because of the epidemic. The new regulations make students study twice the amount of knowledge compared to before with only 3 months left! I wish my country has someone as great as you to help us students have a better learning environment and better teachers that not only focus on tests but also provoke students's interest. I know this is long, thank you whoever's reading this. Vietnamese students are mostly hard-working and bright, so I just think that it would be a waste if they're educated like that.
I've just watched this video again and it's sad and awesome at the same time. It's sad to know that Sir Ken Robinson is not here anymore but it's also a blessing to know we've got this video showing that his teachings are alive and helping others. I wish I could one day get to be and do one third of what he did to help this world become a better place. Rest in peace!
I have to say that this man is one of the best people I've seen on the internet. His talks are totally worth watching and should have many times more views! Sir Ken Robinson, thank you so much♥️
One day in the early 90s while in 2nd grade, I opened my aunt’s high school algebra book and tried to do some exercise problems. The next day, I brought my work to my teacher and asked her to double check my answers. She said, “That’s not algebra. Go sit down.” That’s when I realized grade school teachers had more important things to be concerned with than facilitate a love for learning.
He is right. I was in college to be teacher in the 1980's. Teachers then taught us to learn. It changed. my son was harmed by the no child left behind. all rights reserved
@@TheJdmartinjax i think you have capitalism and crony corporatism mixed up and/or dont understand the difference between the 2. Capitalism encourages small business, innovation, creativity and drive and does not regulate it but rather lets the market decide. Crony corporatism however gets govt mixed up in it and regulates the life out if it so that people without a lot of capital behind them struggle to get started because of all the OHS, environmental, and many many other regulatory hoops that they have to jump through to get started. Meanwhile massive corporations get govt to put even more restrictions in place while making it "appear" like they comply and when caught out get fines that to them are little more than a slap on the wrist but to a small business those same fines would kill them
@@hembrasalvaje Fair enough. So then US hasn't had *capitalism* since I was around 3 yrs old - and I'm 60. And technically - never. Capitalism is a theory like socialism. . .no true forms of either.
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@@hembrasalvaje "Crony capitalism" has NOTHING directly to do with governmental regulation; it's more a manifestation of tribalism. rewarding friends in spite of contravening logic.....
I believe Psychology should be taught from elementary school all the way up to high school, The lack of this is the reason why most people live dysfunctional screwed up lives
My narrow-minded, old-school uncle used to say: "Those who can - do; those who can't - can teach." I corrected him: "Those who can - do; those who can't - don't." It's like we do not venerate teachers very much. But to turn the American educational system around as imagined in this video we must as a culture, as a nation raise teachers to a higher level of respect than currently.
Just found this talk, what a revelation by Sir Ken. He has simplified the message to encourage learning and release that creativity that all children have. Sad to hear he passed a couple of years ago - so much to give the "learners" of the world, wherever they are.
The content is so dense that a re-watch is simply necessary to grasp all of the fine details of Ken's talk. Its always amazing to re-listen to this and always enlightening, like the first time I heard him speak.
"So in place of curiosity, what we have is a culture of compliance. Our children and teachers are encouraged to follow routine algorithms, rather than to excite that power of imagination and curiosity."
I think one thing that we need to rethink is AP classes. They look good to colleges, but in the end the point on them is never to learn, it's simply to pass an AP exam,
That's dependent on the classroom. Some AP classes can be like that, but in others you can genuinely learn the material, while simultaneously getting a 5 on the test. It really depends on the teacher. I think AP tests, in theory, should be an afterthought. The education is what's important, and the test is just to prove you understood it. The problem is the kind of classes that make the test the priority instead of the education. That's what makes it feel repetitive and mundane.
Karl Hiramanek Exactly! One of the biggest problems with the school system here in the USA is that we teach to the test instead of testing what we teach.
Sadly there are 4 types of people, not 3 -immovable (those who don't give a damn) -movable (those who see the need for change) -people who move (create movements) -people who stop those who move (you know who they are)
Swapnil Jadhav . .The ones with the power at the moment , may not want change. For it may reduce their power, influence or control. Movements can be good. Or movements can be bad. Hopefully people will have or gain the wisdom to know the difference, maybe. We could destroy the Earth with no movement, or the wrong movement. Or save it, not only for ourselves and future generations. But also for other life here on Earth.
When our older son quit school to be home schooled, he said, "Excellent. Now I can start learning." Then when we allowed our younger son to be homeschooled, it took the high school six weeks before they realized he was missing , and when they rang me to find out why he wasn't going to school, they mixed him up with another child. The boys then had control over what and how they approached their own learning, and started to learn so much more.
I just finished college, all these years of schooling have been mostly miserable.
Now I spend a lot of time learning things on youtube for fun and out of curiosity.
yep. :D
And, you will find that you are actually 'unlearning' most of what you learned!
Frank Zappa: "If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want to get educated, go to the library."
@@keithsmith4780 ya I started my college education this year in a 'good' University and I am feeling it
@@itsgreattobealive8662 someone tell me how reading 100 pages on any subject is going to teach anyone anything, when the test is 30 Q. Why not just go learn the 30 things? Duh.
I honestly can't decide if this gentleman should become the head of public education in America, or America's next great stand up comedian.
Let's give him both.
I'd think there's no reason he couldn't be both.
*cough* He needs to be both in the UK, too... :-)
YUS
+zollykod actually, almost everywhere. Not just the UK and the United States.
He manages to excite the audience (to the point they often interrupted him with all that clapping) and also deliver a clear and thoughtful message. Many people would only do one or the other, most would do neither, he does both. Brilliant.
And the things he said actually made sense and could be backed up, unlike many people.
There are lamps "APPLAUSE" and "LAUGHTER" lighting up at certain moments
shadow fight 2
Yes, they are in the audience's minds... get one, you may like it...
luckily he has many other videos and you can follow him on twitter and facebook too
I often watch this Ted Talk when needing extra encouragement as a home educator. May you Rest In Peace, Sir Ken Robinson. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Damn he died 8 days ago.
@@madwolf0966 oh my god
how did he die
• Moon • cancer..
@@celiwhaaat6285 ok
As a student this has me spazzing in my chair. This man has put the feeling of " it shouldn't be this way " that I've had for years, into clear common sense words. Almost all school systems work this way and when their blatant faults are put before them they either act incredulous or tell you "this is the way the world works". Thank goodness for this man.
He almost reproduced my economics class in New Zealand. We learn how the systems of supply, demand an scarcity work, which is interesting, but only takes up a small amount of the curriculum. I kid you not, the rest of the year is spent learning how to phrase our answers to questions we will answer at the end of the year, rather than actually learning anything new.
+Jonathan Beaulieu The way the world works, indeed. I could tell you countless stories about the high school science teacher I credit for all the A's I got in his classes, particularly physics. From talking to other students in college, I get the sense that many people hated it because all they did was memorize formulas and do the simplest most mundane lab experiments that hardly related to the outside world at all. Granted, the Rube-Goldberg machine we built as a sort of communal "final exam" didn't relate much either, but the point of it was that we could do something practical with our index card full of equations that we were allowed to reference whenever we needed to.
I may have a Creative Writing degree now, but I still use what I learned in high school physics. Trust me, sci-fi comes out so much cooler. Contrast that to Pre-Calc, which I only took for a college credit and now have completely forgotten. If you learn just to pass a test, your ability to care about the subject matter - not to mention remember it - goes downhill fast. And guess what? That's when nobody wants to become a physicist. You could do so much with that subject. Those equations should be tools, not the end goal. Having a head full of facts and no motivation to make them useful is not, in fact, the way the world works. (Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox now.)
+Jon Bolo As a teacher I nearly bawled my eyes out watching this (nearly-qualified) hopefully we can revolutionalize the way we teach our kids from now on.
+Kim Uitslag it would improve a great many things
ill definitely do some reading up on him. heres the thing tho even if our system weren't to stop teaching to tests and start teaching how to think properly and observe and analyze as its supposed to, we could do a lot just to switch to teaching occupational studies and trades. that way even if its still taught similarly theres still a bit of interest on the part of the student to help them excel.
"Children are natural learners. It's a real achievement to put that particular ability out, or to stifle it. Curiosity is the engine of achievement."
I saved myself
my hear was shattered after hearing that
@@goutamboppana961 omg
Wonderful quote. Need that on a poster somewhere.
It wasn't until I left school that I discovered how interesting learning can be - including what in school I found tedious.
In other words, the system or the teacher were not engaging you in learning.
This is why homeschooling works way better! The parents teach the kids things they are interested in. The parents have good motivation to teach the kids well. The kids aren't distracted by stupid classmates, and the kids, at least should love their teachers. another reason schools are so bad, is that they teach evolution, they brainwash children when they are young, there is no evidence for evolution, and a lot of science to support accounts mentioned in the bible. Paying hired teachers minimum wage to teach bratty un-chastised kids evolution, is never going to give them a good education. Studies done by major colleges have shown that homeschooled, and private schooled children learn WAY more than public schooled children, not just a little bit more, but WAY more, if you don't believe me, look it up. Today schools teach kids what to think, and not how to think. On Top of this parents have freedom to punish their children. I'm 15, and have been smacked everytime I do something wrong, and I can honestly say that I can not be more happy about it, just looking at kids that don't get punished, and how badly they act.
@@jasonstevenson4067 say
That was my experience also.
Iv been listening to audiobooks in my free time. I’m working my way through the history of Julius Cesar. School somehow kills incentive to lean. Idk maybe it’s that it’s just handed to us.
This is why field trips are soooo good. They create an atmosphere of curiosity and learning. Its sad how in high school we get much less.
Yeah for sure, my best memories are from those, even like the ones only 1 day long, the longer the better for sure though. It makes you feel really strange because suddenly you were all studying and competing for the best grades and then just relaxing and visiting museums or sites with basically people that are so similar to you and yet basically strangers
We don’t get any past 8th grade at my school.
I hated field trips... being shunted about in a bus with a mass of kids to some place no one chose and has a say in... I preferred organising my own life and trips and holidays and every day life thanks
High school is to teach you to be compliant when you spend the rest of your life in a corporate cubicle.
we never got any
My class was having an argument with our homeroom teacher the other day about how we never learn anything practical at school, just endless pointless maths formulas and the day so and so died that no one honestly cares about. The common trend is that we memorize everything right before a test, we pass the test and within the next week we forget everything to make room for new information. What is the point of education if we're not actually learning anything?
We want to learn about things are actually _useful_ to us; how to change a tire, how to pay your taxes, how to raise children, how to manage relationships, how to manage our money, how can I make a difference in the world, what can I personally do to prevent climate change, world hunger, etc. etc.
You know what the teachers answered? "That's not my problem, I can't do anything. The government makes the standards, I have to follow them, _there is nothing you or I can do about it._" How can teachers with no passion, no drive, _no backbone to speak of_, that blindly follow a system that they themselves know to be incorrect, teach a generation how to be free thinking individuals? We are not being educated, we are being brainwashed to be complacent. To be unquestioning. To be a good employee; smart enough to do the job but just dumb enough not to ask questions.
a teacher told me like the exact same thing when we had a discussin
YES OMG FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! I suck at school and have no future because I feel stupid because of my grades I won't graduate :(
+Anonymous anon Just find what you are good at, then keep school to a minimum while you foster that thing.
Alex Gluch I'm good at a lot of things, but I think there's a lot more to life than just pursuing what you're good at. I want to make a difference in the world, for other people. I know I'm just a kid but everyone starts somewhere, and the only way to fail is to never even try.
Well, I suppose if you can find a way to use what you're good at to help other people then that's even better,..
Anonymous anon Trust me man, no amount of good grades and pats on the head are ever going to make you "intelligent." Intelligence isn't something that can be defined by a test score. Some of the dumbest people alive have been geniuses on paper; the opposite is also true. To paraphrase Einstein, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
3 years later and our focus is still on the damn tests.
Justin Dettloff You know changing education is actually even harder than changing Americas native language from English to Chinese because this pathetic education system has been here since the 1800s, changing the system would litewlly be like changing the way humans interpret knowledge, this isnt easier said than done
Tyrannosaurus Rex Actually the education systems have been this way since about the time Sparta and the Athens were thriving (the way of teaching my have been different but the subjects are all just about the same, ex. science and math).
Justin Dettloff listen to you parents it's simple you parents love you
Justin Dettloff homework
ALL HAIL COMMON CORE GOOD TEST GRADES = SUCCESSFUL LIFE
Don't make children learn, make children want to learn.
wow
+Ameya Benare buddy one question please
+Ayub Sir k
Ayub Sir
yes..
Jesse Walhout ok
The sad thing is this was posted 7 years ago and nothing has changed in the school system.
@@accey6990 tldr but agree lul
@@rbda8921 tldr: yes
@@accey6990 We have to truly over the government with the new generation, and those from the old ruling family has to be removed from leadership for this change is to happen. There is an incentive for incompetent leaders to make their citizen dumber and easier to manipulate.
Right on Tuf! Right on!
I feel u bro
I love Sir Ken Robinson. He's so right. I've been teaching for 20 years and left. I left because I didn't agree with the direction that education was going. I didn't agree with Restorative Justice or passing laws stating that a very disruptive student can't be removed from the classroom so no one learns. I truly adored my students. I was constantly thinking and looking for ways to make the "curriculum" interesting, fun, and and a place you want to come to. I've succeeded many times. I'm a hands-on teacher so it was a lot of work. But I taught my 7th graders how to scale large objects. Took them on field trips where they had to accomplish different tasks. One of my most rewarding moments was when one of my students said that he "didn't know science could be so fun". And yet I was routinely given "bad students". The kids that were difficult to teach while the other teachers would only teach AP students, Honors students, etc. But they said very clearly that they ONLY teach high level students. Funny but my license looked just like theirs. So I told the registrar to just give them to me. I dislike the politics in the Administration where they do your evaluation but the first time they score you very bad and then the last evaluation they walk around proclaiming how effective you were. Great, Fantastic. So I asked someone how can you change so much from one evaluation to the next and the answer was that the Administration has to show improvement. To me, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The last school I taught in there were more teachers leaving than staying. There has to be a better way to evaluate teachers. Because I could be great in one school and then suddenly you're doing nothing right. I do miss some things in education. The students I taught but there are somethings I won't miss.
Both of my parents left because of that as well
This is why homeschooling works way better! The parents teach the kids things they are interested in. The parents have good motivation to teach the kids well. The kids aren't distracted by stupid classmates, and the kids, at least should love their teachers. another reason schools are so bad, is that they teach evolution, they brainwash children when they are young, there is no evidence for evolution, and a lot of science to support accounts mentioned in the bible. Paying hired teachers minimum wage to teach bratty un-chastised kids evolution, is never going to give them a good education. Studies done by major colleges have shown that homeschooled, and private schooled children learn WAY more than public schooled children, not just a little bit more, but WAY more, if you don't believe me, look it up. Ontop of all this, the parents are free to punish bad behavior of any child. I'm 15 years old, and got smacked hard every time i've done something wrong, and I honestly can not be more glad about it, looking at all these children who don't get punished, and how they act.
@FlyingMonkies325 Kids are bratty, and selfish, and naughty. It is caused not by problems, or undeveloped brains. It is caused by sin. People have forgotten God, and live how they want, and the bad behavior of both children, and parents these days, are the result. If you really don't think kids act badly, then I invite you to come visit my church. We honestly would love to have anyone visit, even if you disagree with every single thing we believe. I guarantee you the kids you would see (we have a lot of them) would all be way better behaved, and more respectful than 99% of public school kids, even public school teens. We have kids that are in public school, and kids that have anger management problems, but they are all less crude, and horrible acting than most non-Christian public school kids. That is because of discipline, at an early age that instills respect, and shows them what is right, and wrong. Like I said in my last comment, I am 15 years old (I don't claim to be intelligent btw), and have been smacked every time i've done something wrong, and I can honestly not be more grateful for it. I really don't mean this in a bragging way, but there have been numerous occasions when we, and our friends have been told, that we are by far the most well mannered, and well behaved kids, that people had ever seen. As far as "holding kids back" on purpose?!?! what on earth is that supposed to achieve? it makes much more sense that kids should be given a basic standard of schooling, and then be free to experiment in the subjects that they enjoy. It also makes much more sense that they be taught by people that actually care about them, then by people working on government salaries, to try and teach them very VERY basic curriculum. Children, and teens are also not incapable of doing harder work, and actually expanding their brains. My best friend has not graduated high school, but the homeschool curriculum that he does (classical conversations) is college level, and its hard, but everyone in his "class" is managing, not to mention that they enjoy it more, than public schoolers enjoy school, or that they are way more learned than most public schoolers. Another one of my friends is public schooled, and recently graduated high school, and is so smart, and well brought up, that almost every college he could have applied at would have accepted him, (he is now studying music).
By the way, I feel personally insulted that you say just because I am a teenager my brain is not developed enough to understand complex emotions, and concepts. I can very well enough understand many complex emotions, and concepts. I know who I would vote for in the election, (if I could vote) I know that I believe in God, (not because my parents tell me too, they don't tell me too, even though they believe in God) I know what economic system I support, and why I support it.
children are much smarter than adults realise, and they know it, the kids use that knowledge to get out of hard work, by screaming, and crying, and throwing a tantrum, because they know the parents won't punish them. Just so you remember, this is all coming from someone who was a young kid not very long ago.
I am truly interested in what your response will be!
@FlyingMonkies325 Well, I don't know what that means, but I am assuming it is an insult.
I see that you were completely stumped by logical reasoning, and completely lost this debate. Have a nice good day!
# Respect
6 years later, something has happened: its even worse now.
Yup. The whole educational system is made to profit the colleges and the government.
lol i just commented that what he said is cool and all, but an utopia. Humans aren't that smart do put that into practice. otherwise we would already done it.
Yes, Common Core was instituted enforcing even MORE of these same practices (& they want to expand the length of school days & for kids to go 6 days/week). Too bad no one's offered an alternative. OH WAIT... Betsy DeVos, our Sec't of Ed. HAS! Her "School of Choice Voucher Program" keeps getting rejected for a vote from the House of Representatives! *MANY* ppl are claiming it's racist, even though some of the BEST Charter Schools are in Harlem, but are having a near impossible time staying open due to funding (check out "The Boys' Latin School of Harlem". They were REFUSED opening a "Girls' Latin School of Harlem" recently by Mayor Bill DeBlasio!).
You REALLY have NOT been paying attention!
It's working IMPOSSIBLY WELL for teachers/professors/schools!!
In my county the teachers managed to finagle one "half-day" every week.
After all, 180 work days a year would kill ANY hot-house-flower.
Initially scheduled for Wednesdays, WHO KNEW it would almost immediately
morph to Fridays....OF COURSE FOLLOWED by a limit of one Friday a month
requiring the "teacher" to stay in the classroom.
MAKE THAT 162 actual full-days work a YEAR....
@@WayneLynch69next time, please mark your sarcasm
It's funny how when I'm out of school, I want to learn more...It's almost as if the school system sucks.
Its not almost its exactly sucks
@@anandsuralkar2947 I think you need to look up the word 'sarcasm.'
@spartjovic Same here
That's because it does.
spartjovic, isn't it wonderful to realize that you can learn what you want at your own pace without the bullshit, competition and shaming that school "offers"?
This man made more sense in 20 minutes than a whole 'committee' in years and years of 'planning' and 'execution'.
Is that ironic or just coincidental?
Are you in a Soviet Union?
Exactly. Sir Ken, what a legend. I always ask my kid's teachers (and principal) if they have seen sir Ken? alarm bells ring if they haven't.
“Let the minutes reflect that sense was made for a period of 20 minutes during the meeting before proceeding to the question of whether math has become too gay.”
Excellent. In school, I always felt like I was doing things that served no purpose other than appeasing the adults in my life.
yes same
I know what you mean. Well said, dead-on.
It gets only marginally better in post-grad levels. I have a doctorate and I still feel that way with all the governmental red tape in the way of me doing my damn job
perfect attendance will get you the job ... they want someone that will show up everyday .. on time...
Same. I don’t know why I had to sit through 4 years of Saxon getting it stuffed in my head like cotton when I’m never gonna use it irl
1. Human beings are naturally different and diverse.
2. Curiosity. In place of curiosity what we have is a culture of compliance.
3. Human life is inherently creative.
preach bro
my whole academic life has been so far just studying to pass exams.
How ??? Why ? Didn’t you choose your study subject to build upon it your career later after graduation from university or even High school?!
What a waste of a time, energy and brainpower
mine not even that. mine's been paying and trying to show up and fulfill all those meaningless tasks that allow you to even take the exam. im so beat up by the system by the time i get to an exam im done
How does anybody know you understand it without the test. The test proves you learned it. If you learn enough stuff you can get hired for different jobs or get accepted into universities. Part if it is a test to see if you can deal with boring work. Because some jobs are boring. But you get paid at least
Joshua Lee what he’s talking about is standardized testing
This great man passed away in 2020 aged 70 .
His childhood story of poverty and illness would bring you
to tears and yet he triumphed over it . He spent the greater
part of his life fighting to ensure that others ( of any race
or denomination ) could have the chance to do the same.
And yet if you stopped 100 people at random in the Street
they would not know who he is / was. Ken would have thought that unimportant and carried on the fight and we
should do the same !
August 21, 2020
@@BlueBloxRoblox Thank you!
It takes true talent to be able to deliver such great insight on such a nuanced topic, not only with absolute grace, but also with a touch of comedy. This man is truly brilliant.
no it doesnt he is stating obvious stuff that everyone already knows
*No you're a towel*
*with
and he's pretty cool
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Who is here after learning about his passing? 😭
Rest in peace, dear sir. Rest in peace. You've inspired many including myself, and we'll do our best to continue carrying your torch.
Yes😔🙏, and your death will not be the downfall⬇️ nor will it ever be the reason why the Education Reformation Movement✊ will end🚫, for I too will continue to hold this torch🔥 and will continue on my New Education System🔆 plans.
I've made a discord with my friends together to dicuss about it just recently and I'd like invite you to it as well🤝.
Also, here's a link:
discord.gg/XC2SrG
@@zawyehtike3089 oh dear. It says the link has expired. Would you mind sharing it again? Sincere apologies for inconvenience caused.
@@eugenegohdikern6006 Sure and also, here's a new link. Please let me know if it works. Thanks!🙏
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yeah but sadly i didnt know about him
"Teaching is a creative profession".... wow!! What a revolutionary concept. I LOVE this guy!!
We always remember our best teachers. The very ones who encouraged us the most are never forgotten.
Our school system was designed to make factory workers. It just hasn't changed much since then.
So true
Factory workers don't need to go to school. So no. It was designed to turn children into radical progressives and/or Marxists, by radical Marxists and progressives.
It’s true in majority areas of the world...weather they are developed countries or developing ones.
Precisely why I left 20 yrs of teaching and took my 13 yr old with me.
Unschooled for 3 yrs he's finally able to sort out his true interests and abilities. Schools use a metric that leaves 90% feeling inadequate and "less than" - because of the depersonalization of standards testing data machines with 35 kids and one teacher - all under the disguise of effciency. Add in the fact automation will replace 90% or more of all college degrees' purpose and you have a basis for desperate fears that lead to rampant substance abuse/suicide - designed thanks to BigPharma and their mindless cor-pirate creep towards getting everyone habituated to dependence and addiction - grooming all for BigInsurance and the lucrative rehab system - ALL PART OF THE GODDAMN STATUS QUO GOVT WAR ON PEOPLE. And the sick irony is their *best* customers are those who go by their rules - the straight A Achievers - that feed corporate greed while setting a FALSE standard used to create standardized testing - and the monster feeds itself.
@@TheJdmartinjax "automation will replace 90% or more of all college degrees' purpose" Dunno where you get that idea. Engineering degrees can't be automated because there's too much decision making involved. IT degrees can't be automated for the same reason. I'm positive business degrees can't be automated; they're too tied up in human behavior. Science degrees are supposed to teach you to discover _new_ things that haven't occurred to anyone before, so that can't be automated. Literary analysis isn't automatable since it's subjective. History can't be automated because it deals with trying to discover unknowns and connect between different events using information that a machine couldn't access, much less analyze. And art? lol, what, just automatically generate something at random? Okay, I can give you that one. There are useless degrees, of course, but since no one gets paid to actually do those, they're not going to be automated. I can't think of a degree where the subject matter, if taught seriously and in a remotely useful manner, can be automated. Automatable jobs don't require a degree.
I don't even feel like I'm learning anything in school anymore. I love to learn new things but now a days it's just memorizing dates and equations to pass an exam. I believe the exam should be made by our minds. As in we should challenge our selves in the things we enjoy and are curious for, but that's just my dream...
I feel the same way
I third, but it really depends on the teacher. My history teacher last year was great, and I actually enjoyed going to his class. This year I feel the exact opposite because I've written 3 essays in 1 1/2 months. That's neither fun nor engaging, and I learn so much less because of it.
School is the place of both ruin and dreams
If exams were what they claim to be, they wouldn't warn you of when the exam is going to be. If they wanted to find out how good you are at the subject you'd be tested at random. Because they warn you, they are measuring how good you are at passing exams, not how good you are at the subject. They know everyone is just cramming for a few days before with no intention of remembering nor undestanding.
They know this, and they know no parents would challenge this aspect of their child getting good marks.
They know this.... good the marks make THEM look good.
If you score well in A subject, you are just the same as all the others, you have worked for years and got no advantage.
Highschool now, feel the same way.
Teaching isn't about the passion on learning anymore, it's about passing
That's sad.
Well, it never was from the start.
I might have gotten it wrong but out of listening to Seth Godin who explained how schools were brought up, it was all about teaching obedience to authority. Schools (for everyone) became common during the industrial revolution. It was about making good workers who could follow instructions and be brainwashed into paying respect.
It's sad to see the main concept still remain in most schools.
Perfect attendance is more important than grades ... dependability
'anymore', it never was. Maybe it wasnt intentional but dont lie.
For anyone watching this take a moment and appreciate that this is one of ways that we can enjoy Sir Ken Robinson as he was passed away Aug 2020. Definitely watch this with a very grateful heart that he has left us with something beautiful to learn from.
"If you sit kids down hour after hour doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they fidget."
Someone stop this man before he starts making sense!
Start? He already is
🤣🤣🤣🤗!!! Good one, buddy!!! 😅😅😅👍
@@bobsonbobbybobson6888 I guess you don't get irony! :-)
@@D1ann3M I dont think he meant it to be ironic
@@bobsonbobbybobson6888 I think he absolutely meant it ironically. We (you and I) have a difference of opinion, that's all.
As a parent my top job was to observe what my kids are interested, good at or have a propensity for........
........and enable, facilitate and to help guide them early on to focus on their talents and strengths. Without judgement.
My 2 cents.
Saaaame, my kids are very different from the other my son loves anything animal, dinosaurs, bugs, he just turned 4 and can tell you the names by pictures.
My daughter is gonna be 3 and shes just has a huge passion for art, patterns, textures, food lol. And she's VERY determined to achieve what she wants.
Ill definitely be giving my 2 cents to any school they go too.
they are so lucky to have such a great dad
Gregory Daerr Great dad!
Great parent
That has been my approach. Early, we did all the reading and fine motor skills. As our son got to the point that he expressed interest in something, we facilitated exposure and access to those things. Some things were mastered and led to further development in that area. Other things were explored and exhausted or left behind due to lack of more interest. It has gone this way throughout his life, and he has developed a mind that is beyond anything I could have achieved in the wrote repetition of standardized testing. He does well on the tests, carries a straight A report card; but there is more. He is a musician and artist in several areas, despite the education provided by the state. I firmly believe that the stimulus we provided access to developed his brain beyond the confines of standardized testing, and we are confident he will continue to excel.
America needs see education as a craft, rather than a factory production line.
Kitti McConnell Not just America but the whole of Earth.
People with your kind of attitude are why America is doomed.
Thomas Headley line production factory a than rather, craft a as education see needs America? ;)
+Kitti McConnell This is a great analogy!
School was built for that initially.
"We've invaded every country we encountered."
That's the most British thing I 've heard so far.
@Muhammad Saad this aged well
@@luck3yp0rk93 kkkkkkkkkkkk
And finally went back to their muddy island
@@blackadvertisment6139 ....Wouldn't live anywhere else !
American too
And that is why I have learnt much more on RUclips than in school.
@ExtraGoose Animations i wish indian education system was like this :( but we are always busy getting dolla bills
Same here why can't school be like this
Same
absolutely
a salute to the indian guys on youtube who helped you pass.
Homeschooling our kids have been the BEST decision we have ever made. Both graduated 2-3 years early from high school and now in college with honors. We were told when they were little they would not be socialized, would never go to college or never learn anything. They were very wrong. I HIGHLY recommend people learn more about this option. I'm not saying it is for everyone...but many might find it a great choice for their family. :)
What was the workload for you? Did you pool with other families? Thanks and kudos 🙏👍🤞
What about bringing what you know to others? Most won't even have this option.
The other thing, don't tell them the ideas are hard. Mess up any progress.
@@PhilippeLarcher I congratulate your effort. But to be truthful what you seem to be advocating depresses me. You're saying we should all turn our backs on public education. Your children were lucky enough to have parents who could afford to homeschool and could accomplish it. But many, many parents can't afford or accomplish homeschooling. If they are single parent families or both parents must work two jobs to survive in their local economy, like Seattle if you are not in technology or medical sciences or are an intellectual. What of these families? The thought of turning my back on public education feels like defeat to me. But I can understand the choice. It's your kids or these families, right. That's a no choice question. And this is America.
@@darkmaitri Hey, you replied to the wrong comment, not sure the original commenter will be notified ;)
I need to know more. What 'high school' did they graduate early from? What 'college' are they now attending 'with honors?' What did your curriculum at home teach about The Big Bang, Evolutionary Theory, and the age of the universe?
One of the best Ted talks I ever watched
Watch his Sir Ken Robinson's other talks.
12:44 Here is a quote I know: "We teach students, not lessons."
Also, love this guy!
15:36 The more I learn about teaching and parenting and marriage, the more I believe that what we must use for people who have the hardest time with things (those with autism, learning liabilities, etc.) are the things that tend to work best for everyone else, too.
I thought it really sad when in the beginning he said schools focus on exams so much that kids are only learning so they can pass, and then he said it doesn't HAVE to be that way. As I tried to imagine that, I thought, "You mean they are learning to LEARN?" (Like, learning for its own sake? Because they like it?) I realized then that I am caught in the trap, too!!
I love Sir Robinson's sense of humor he uses so cleverly to drive home his point of view on some very serious issues. Kids of today almost do not seem allowed to "suffer from childhood". So we have come full circle from Victorian times when children were supposed to be seen but not heard and behave like miniature adults or work 12-14 hour workdays depending on your social status, to a situation where children are completely planned virtually from the day they are conceived (which kindergarden should we enroll in) to extra-curricular activities (they will need Mandarin in a global economy). There are many ways to stifle creativity and curiosity. What scares me most is how far removed the coming generations are from "mother nature". How can you cherish and protect something you know nothing about?
Words from the tip of my mouth. We've been taught many things except how to live in this world.
Irony is this is TED talk most respected talks anywhere
And we know nothings gonna change in our education system its ironically sad
Respect... mankind will fall to itself because lack of care...
Aye🙏,
For I understand that some things will not be changed (for some love it for the way things are), but that won't stop those who seek to be, in creating a new system instead!
For me, I had made a discord server with my friends and I do have plans to really do it afterwards.
Also, here's the link🙏:
disboard.org/server/717846393074614435
I've seen that and I feel that.
0:13
Thank you very much.
0:16
I moved to America 12 years ago with my wife Terry and our two kids. Actually, truthfully, we moved to Los Angeles -- (Laughter) thinking we were moving to America, but anyway -- (Laughter) It's a short plane ride from Los Angeles to America. (Laughter)
0:38
I got here 12 years ago, and when I got here, I was told various things, like, "Americans don't get irony." (Laughter) Have you come across this idea? It's not true. I've traveled the whole length and breadth of this country. I have found no evidence that Americans don't get irony. It's one of those cultural myths, like, "The British are reserved." (Laughter) I don't know why people think this. We've invaded every country we've encountered. (Laughter) But it's not true Americans don't get irony, but I just want you to know that that's what people are saying about you behind your back. You know, so when you leave living rooms in Europe, people say, thankfully, nobody was ironic in your presence. (Laughter)
1:28
But I knew that Americans get irony when I came across that legislation, "No Child Left Behind." (Laughter) Because whoever thought of that title gets irony. (Laughter) Don't they? (Applause) Because it's leaving millions of children behind. Now I can see that's not a very attractive name for legislation: "Millions of Children Left Behind." I can see that. What's the plan? We propose to leave millions of children behind, and here's how it's going to work.
2:05
And it's working beautifully. (Laughter) In some parts of the country, 60 percent of kids drop out of high school. In the Native American communities, it's 80 percent of kids. If we halved that number, one estimate is it would create a net gain to the U.S. economy over 10 years, of nearly a trillion dollars. From an economic point of view, this is good math, isn't it, that we should do this? It actually costs an enormous amount to mop up the damage from the dropout crisis.
2:41
But the dropout crisis is just the tip of an iceberg. What it doesn't count are all the kids who are in school but being disengaged from it, who don't enjoy it, who don't get any real benefit from it.
2:54
And the reason is not that we're not spending enough money. America spends more money on education than most other countries. Class sizes are smaller than in many countries. And there are hundreds of initiatives every year to try and improve education. The trouble is, it's all going in the wrong direction. There are three principles on which human life flourishes, and they are contradicted by the culture of education under which most teachers have to labor and most students have to endure.
3:28
The first is this, that human beings are naturally different and diverse.
3:35
Can I ask you, how many of you have got children of your own? Okay. Or grandchildren. How about two children or more? Right. And the rest of you have seen such children. (Laughter) Small people wandering about. (Laughter) I will make you a bet, and I am confident that I will win the bet. If you've got two children or more, I bet you they are completely different from each other. Aren't they? (Applause) You would never confuse them, would you? Like, "Which one are you? Remind me." (Laughter) "Your mother and I need some color-coding system so we don't get confused."
4:21
Education under "No Child Left Behind" is based on not diversity but conformity. What schools are encouraged to do is to find out what kids can do across a very narrow spectrum of achievement. One of the effects of "No Child Left Behind" has been to narrow the focus onto the so-called STEM disciplines. They're very important. I'm not here to argue against science and math. On the contrary, they're necessary but they're not sufficient. A real education has to give equal weight to the arts, the humanities, to physical education. An awful lot of kids, sorry, thank you -- (Applause) One estimate in America currently is that something like 10 percent of kids, getting on that way, are being diagnosed with various conditions under the broad title of attention deficit disorder. ADHD. I'm not saying there's no such thing. I just don't believe it's an epidemic like this. If you sit kids down, hour after hour, doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they start to fidget, you know? (Laughter) (Applause) Children are not, for the most part, suffering from a psychological condition. They're suffering from childhood. (Laughter) And I know this because I spent my early life as a child. I went through the whole thing. Kids prosper best with a broad curriculum that celebrates their various talents, not just a small range of them. And by the way, the arts aren't just important because they improve math scores. They're important because they speak to parts of children's being which are otherwise untouched.
6:13
The second, thank you -- (Applause)
6:19
The second principle that drives human life flourishing is curiosity. If you can light the spark of curiosity in a child, they will learn without any further assistance, very often. Children are natural learners. It's a real achievement to put that particular ability out, or to stifle it. Curiosity is the engine of achievement. Now the reason I say this is because one of the effects of the current culture here, if I can say so, has been to De-professionalize teachers. There is no system in the world or any school in the country that is better than its teachers. Teachers are the lifeblood of the success of schools. But teaching is a creative profession. Teaching, properly conceived, is not a delivery system. You know, you're not there just to pass on received information. Great teachers do that, but what great teachers also do is mentor, stimulate, provoke, engage. You see, in the end, education is about learning. If there's no learning going on, there's no education going on. And people can spend an awful lot of time discussing education without ever discussing learning. The whole point of education is to get people to learn.
7:40
An old friend of mine -- actually very old, he's dead. (Laughter) That's as old as it gets, I'm afraid. (Laughter) But a wonderful guy he was, wonderful philosopher. He used to talk about the difference between the task and achievement senses of verbs. You can be engaged in the activity of something, but not really be achieving it, like dieting. (Laughter) It's a very good example. There he is. He's dieting. Is he losing any weight? Not really. (Laughter) Teaching is a word like that. You can say, "There's Deborah, she's in room 34, she's teaching." But if nobody's learning anything, she may be engaged in the task of teaching but not actually fulfilling it.
8:29
The role of a teacher is to facilitate learning. That's it. And part of the problem is, I think, that the dominant culture of education has come to focus on not teaching and learning, but testing. Now, testing is important. Standardized tests have a place. But they should not be the dominant culture of education. They should be diagnostic. They should help. (Applause) If I go for a medical examination, I want some standardized tests. I do. I want to know what my cholesterol level is compared to everybody else's on a standard scale. I don't want to be told on some scale my doctor invented in the car. (Laughter)
9:15
"Your cholesterol is what I call Level Orange."
9:17
"Really?" (Laughter) "Is that good?" "We don't know." (Laughter)
9:23
But all that should support learning. It shouldn't obstruct it, which of course it often does. So in place of curiosity, what we have is a culture of compliance. Our children and teachers are encouraged to follow routine algorithms rather than to excite that power of imagination and curiosity. And the third principle is this: that human life is inherently creative. It's why we all have different résumés. We create our lives, and we can recreate them as we go through them. It's the common currency of being a human being. It's why human culture is so interesting and diverse and dynamic. I mean, other animals may well have imaginations and creativity, but it's not so much in evidence, is it, as ours? I mean, you may have a dog. And your dog may get depressed. You know, but it doesn't listen to Radiohead, does it? (Laughter) And sit staring out the window with a bottle of Jack Daniels. (Laughter)
10:28
"Would you like to come for a walk?" "No, I'm fine."
10:31
(Laughter) "You go. I'll wait. But take pictures." (Laughter)
10:38
We all create our own lives through this restless process of imagining alternatives and possibilities, and one of the roles of education is to awaken and develop these powers of creativity. Instead, what we have is a culture of standardization.
10:53
Now, it doesn't have to be that way. It really doesn't. Finland regularly comes out on top in math, science and reading. Now, we only know that's what they do well at, because that's all that's being tested. That's one of the problems of the test. They don't look for other things that matter just as much. The thing about work in Finland is this: they don't obsess about those disciplines. They have a very broad approach to education, which includes humanities, physical education, the arts.
11:24
Second, there is no standardized testing in Finland. I mean, there's a bit, but it's not what gets people up in the morning, what keeps them at their desks.
11:35
The third thing -- and I was at a meeting recently with some people from Finland, actual Finnish people, and somebody from the American system was saying to the people in Finland, "What do you do about the drop-out rate in Finland?"
11:48
And they all looked a bit bemused, and said, "Well, we don't have one. Why would you drop out? If people are in trouble, we get to them quite quickly and we help and support them."
11:59
Now people always say, "Well, you know, you can't compare Finland to America."
12:04
No. I think there's a population of around five million in Finland. But you can compare it to a state in America. Many states in America have fewer people in them than that. I mean, I've been to some states in America and I was the only person there. (Laughter) Really. Really. I was asked to lock up when I left. (Laughter)
12:29
But what all the high-performing systems in the world do is currently what is not evident, sadly, across the systems in America -- I mean, as a whole. One is this: they individualize teaching and learning. They recognize that it's students who are learning and the system has to engage them, their curiosity, their individuality, and their creativity. That's how you get them to learn.
12:58
The second is that they attribute a very high status to the teaching profession. They recognize that you can't improve education if you don't pick great people to teach and keep giving them constant support and professional development. Investing in professional development is not a cost. It's an investment, and every other country that's succeeding well knows that, whether it's Australia, Canada, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong or Shanghai. They know that to be the case.
13:29
And the third is,
13:30
they devolve responsibility to the school level for getting the job done. You see, there's a big difference here between going into a mode of command and control in education -- That's what happens in some systems. Central or state governments decide, they know best and they're going to tell you what to do. The trouble is that education doesn't go on in the committee rooms of our legislative buildings. It happens in classrooms and schools, and the people who do it are the teachers and the students, and if you remove their discretion, it stops working. You have to put it back to the people. (Applause)
14:13
There is wonderful work happening in this country. But I have to say it's happening in spite of the dominant culture of education, not because of it. It's like people are sailing into a headwind all the time. And the reason I think is this: that many of the current policies are based on mechanistic conceptions of education. It's like education is an industrial process that can be improved just by having better data, and somewhere in the back of the mind of some policy makers is this idea that if we fine-tune it well enough, if we just get it right, it will all hum along perfectly into the future. It won't, and it never did.
14:54
The point is that education is not a mechanical system. It's a human system. It's about people, people who either do want to learn or don't want to learn. Every student who drops out of school has a reason for it which is rooted in their own biography. They may find it boring. They may find it irrelevant. They may find that it's at odds with the life they're living outside of school. There are trends, but the stories are always unique. I was at a meeting recently in Los Angeles of -- they're called alternative education programs. These are programs designed to get kids back into education. They have certain common features. They're very personalized. They have strong support for the teachers, close links with the community and a broad and diverse curriculum, and often programs which involve students outside school as well as inside school. And they work. What's interesting to me is, these are called "alternative education." (Laughter) You know? And all the evidence from around the world is, if we all did that, there'd be no need for the alternative. (Applause) (Applause ends)
16:13
So I think we have to embrace a different metaphor. We have to recognize that it's a human system, and there are conditions under which people thrive, and conditions under which they don't. We are after all organic creatures, and the culture of the school is absolutely essential. Culture is an organic term, isn't it?
16:34
Not far from where I live is a place called Death Valley. Death Valley is the hottest, driest place in America, and nothing grows there. Nothing grows there because it doesn't rain. Hence, Death Valley. In the winter of 2004, it rained in Death Valley. Seven inches of rain fell over a very short period. And in the spring of 2005, there was a phenomenon. The whole floor of Death Valley was carpeted in flowers for a while. What it proved is this: that Death Valley isn't dead. It's dormant. Right beneath the surface are these seeds of possibility waiting for the right conditions to come about, and with organic systems, if the conditions are right, life is inevitable. It happens all the time. You take an area, a school, a district, you change the conditions, give people a different sense of possibility, a different set of expectations, a broader range of opportunities, you cherish and value the relationships between teachers and learners, you offer people the discretion to be creative and to innovate in what they do, and schools that were once bereft spring to life.
17:56
Great leaders know that. The real role of leadership in education -- and I think it's true at the national level, the state level, at the school level -- is not and should not be command and control. The real role of leadership is climate control, creating a climate of possibility. And if you do that, people will rise to it and achieve things that you completely did not anticipate and couldn't have expected.
18:23
There's a wonderful quote from Benjamin Franklin. "There are three sorts of people in the world: Those who are immovable, people who don't get it, or don't want to do anything about it; there are people who are movable, people who see the need for change and are prepared to listen to it; and there are people who move, people who make things happen." And if we can encourage more people, that will be a movement. And if the movement is strong enough, that's, in the best sense of the word, a revolution. And that's what we need.
18:55
Thank you very much. (Applause) Thank you very much. (Applause)
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One of the best TED speeches on education I've ever watched. I'm glad to come across this video, but also sad as this gentleman passed away last year. R.I.P Sir Ken Robinson
As a failed student during the fifties and sixties, this is a brilliant talk
Likewise pal....I was very dyslexic , left school at 15 ( 1960 ) worked in my father's engineering business... 12 years later I was designing and consulting world wide.... Being dyslexic I lost the millions I made ((so believing and trusting in the honesty of business men .....I thought a handshake was their bond ))
NEVER TAUGHT US HOW TO NEGOTIATE OR WARN US OF BUSINESS WHEELER DEALERS....
I'm now longing for some serious civil unrest to vent my anger , upon a certain race , where 90% of my life and money went.. ....
"failed"
My most favorite teachers were in elementary school because they inspired much more imagination than any other teacher all the way through college.
Teacher: Grade is just a number.
Also teacher: *Judges your future because of your grades*
truth
Were basically just robots stuffed with knowledge
i feel like it's colleges that judge and determine our future based on grades. which shouldn't happen...
Sadly, some good teachers are part of the centralised system. Hence, they are forced to evaluate children by grades.
@Philip Manousakis probably. I've seen a fair share of 'teachers' where I live who aren't inclined in teaching but somehow landed a teaching job. They teach centralized syllabus to earn a huge sum.
Most teachers who are creative don't even enter the current educational system because it strips off their freedom to teach children to be curious, question, etc. The sort of politics involved is shameful.
Hence, most teachers.
I can't believe that was only 19 minutes, I could listen to this man talk forever. So inspiring
this guy is pure genius. Some kids have different strengths and weaknesses which are not acknowledged enough. And I know how this feels. I wish the school system could be improved to incorporate this.
He is a genius and so are you and me, that's what he's saying.
"If you sit kids down hour after hour doing low-grade clerical work, don't be surprised if they start to fidget."
I literally clapped along with the audience.
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I used to get in trouble for that a lot.
He is inspiring. Everyone involved with education should watch this.
+Clara Guimarães very true
+Clara Guimarães Every parent and every kid too in the world..
Very few orators on TED have ever captivated me the way Sir Ken Robinson did today. I regret finding this masterpiece of a presentation so late in life. Every word he speaks exudes a calming aura, yet simple truths that need to be worked upon with graveness. Education is a process, a journey; not the destination. It was only because of my family's constant support and encouragement, RUclips and channels like Discovery and National Geographic that I was able to retain my curiosity and passion to learn through my years of schooling. I hope that one day, we can all make enough noise to bring about a change in this system of education and make it more appealing and attractive for the future generations.
Finland has the shortest school days, least amount of homework, and fewest amount of Standardized tests and ACTs, yet they are the smartest, most successful, most rounded students and people in the world. And school never causes anxiety, stress, nor depression.
They also have a high rate of suicide.
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Given how East Asia fares that's no exception, especially when the means are as available, it's to be expected (and well addressed by programmes this decade).
@@paulmcgovern6660 its not due to school though.
Paul Mcgovern that’s just winter bro
Paul Mcgovern unrelated to the school system
I’m 40 and science became my new hobby so it doesn’t matter how old you are either.
good for you, geno. i started re-learning algebra on my own once i was an adult and i love it.
what did you start from? i really want to have interest in science but i dont know where to start
I love science too! Im 14 and Ive got a little electronics/computer lab set up in my walk in cupboard. Its a nice little room with some windows for great ventilation and I have a soldering station, tektronix 2225 oscilloscope, fluke multimeter, white board, a cool old windows vista computer (for doing stuff like spreadsheets), a CRT monitor with an RF input, 30V 1A power supply + much more. Science is an amazing subject and if you are good at mathematics and computer stuff like coding it can even be way better. I wish more of my youth loved science because it really helps me to not just understand the world around me, but its fun and helps me challenge my brain especially the algebra and computer coding side of things. Anyway great to see you like science Mr. Injian it really is a great subject and I've loved it all my life much more than English and Phys Ed.
I love an instructor who inspires me and motivates me to learn. Unfortunately, many teachers teach robotically and just there to collect their paychecks.
One of the most intellectual speeches I have seen on TED Talks - Sir Ken lays out the fundamental solution to our existing education systems. RIP.
you should listen to him. he was batmans butler
which 1?
Alfred Pennyworth 😂
Maaz Ahmed from which movie?
***** dark knight rises. he kinda looks michael caine
Dominic He looks like _both_ the Alfreds to me. LMFAO.
education is definitely an issue in the united states. my daughter is 10 and i had to teach her about the difference between countries and continents. she didn't even know Mexico was a separate country from the united states. So i started asking her what she learned each day after school, and she would ALWAYS say math for at least half the day then 15 minutes of reading then more online math. ridiculous. plus the fact that her curriculum is now common core, so i can't really help her with her homework because they use a different method of learning math. she used to be excited about learning but now she has reservations. she had been programmed to think learning is boring and tedious work. I fear for her future in school so now i am taking proactive action to make sure she is well rounded in her education
Good for you, that's what needs to happen everywhere.
I would highly recommend trying to enroll your kid in an International Baccalaureate (IB) school. They are in my opinion MUCH better than AP schools because it really does challenge you, it makes you a much much better thinker, it actually does have a equal balance between the arts, maths, science, history, physical education and foreign language. It is much more writing intensive (there are barely any multiple choice tests) and has a focus on students developing a world view. I just recently graduated from a IB school and I would seriously recommend you search it up and see if there are any near you. Oh and don't worry they're not private schools or anything, a school chooses to become IB.
I'm sorry. I thought maybe things had improved since I graduated 10 years ago.
All my most important learning took place outside of school. For your daughter, perhaps it will be the same. It's the only thing we can do until this broken system is fixed.
fatima Sheikh I finished 5 years of IB and it didn't make any difference for anyone of us
That's why homeschooling is becoming more popular, because common core is utter crap. I was homeschooled, and I am eternally grateful to my parents for making that choice, because I am ahead of nearly everyone I know in college who went to public school. With a few exceptions, most other students I have asked have told me that they had to take remedial math or English classes after enrolling, setting them back up to 2-3 semesters. If you want your kids to have a better education, look into some homeschooling programs. My family used Seton, but there are others out there that might be better suited for some people. Do some research. Homeschooling is a difficult commitment, but is worth the extra effort.
Literally one of the best Ted Talks I have ever watched! None of the solutions are rocket science--- we just need people dedicated to change!
Not just figuratively then? Back to school you go.....
Sir Ken and Finland have it right. I taught in 2 colleges, 56 middle and high schools and 2 elementaries. I was seeking inspired administrators who got great staff and created a great learning atmosphere. There are a few out there but we need about 100,000 more.
I guess many countrys are to proud to just look outwards and ask finland for example, how they got their school system to be so damn good. That is why I particulary like politicians that look for an international approach. Great teachers are currently kept underneath their potential by the school system, which is quite disturbing, when I think about children being the future. Many Greeting from Germany.
I remember being bored a lot in school. But I learned that boredom is very good for you, because boredom gets you to think. So ironically, my school fulfilled its purpose.
Everyone is a teacher - by example or non example - both equally valid, yes.
kev Have you ever heard of the saying "IDLE MIND IS THE WORKSHOP OF EVIL"
nowadays its less about boredom and more about work you until you fall over and also ur told everything wrong with education is ur fault and if u don't shape up to what the state decides is best for you then any knowledge you might have isnt worth a damn.
@@Natnaeltekola that is the fake parameter put there by the religious dogma establishment - the whole good vs evil argument was invented by the shitheels to draw attn away from those that set the fire. Same with 9/11 and going back 10,000 years.
@@adamblair-smith3063 You are seeing the matrix for what it really is😎
"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers". - John D. Rockefeller, Founder of NEA (National Education Association)
I don’t want any nation to be led by Joker fellas.
Bingo. Add to that the great “equality “ among races mantra and now you know how politically incorrect it would be for genetics to rear it’s ugly head.
Guess what, once AI can replace these workers, that's when majority truly don't matter no more. Well it's not like anyone cared for them from the get go.
sorry not f him but why must he have done that
@@florale7484 give them their own schools. schools where THEIR needs can be met. what else?
7:41 This is truly a genius way of 'announcing' the death of a person. If this were brought differently, people would've been sad, shocked or appalled, but instead people cracked up.
I feel I was very lucky. I stumbled into education by accident. Spent 28 years teaching "History"; the most boring subject many people can think of. We, the students and I, discussed many topics and offered reasons as to why they occurred. The events were attached to the story therefore gave "It" meaning. Every day I taught I learned more and more from my students. I feel very fortunate and blessed to have found a profession I came to love. Looking back can think of nothing I had rather have done.
This talk needs to be seen in ever School and University !
The school systems’ teachers aren’t the ones who need to hear this, though he is EXACTLY right. It’s the politicians and other government (so called) leaders who make decisions regarding the “rules” that public schools must adhere to, most of whom have never darkened the doors of the schools within their district.
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"They're suffering from childhood." 5:45
Yes, I understand what he means. People would consider me a child, but I feel as if I have grown up too fast. I don't get enough time to myself or to do what I enjoy.
"Curiosity." 6:25
No one has lighted my spark, yet there is one subject I love and would enjoy learning about. However, I am not allowed to focus too much on it for others hold values such as being good at math or ELA. I usually strive in those subjects, yet only because I am pushed too. There are few things I enjoy, and I just wish I could pursue my dreams.
There are MANY other wonderful things in this video. It is 2019 yet this speech is still very educational.
Thank you Mr. Robinson.
If you think you'll get to do what you want as an adult, I'll tell you it gets worse. Lol
5:04. ADHD “if you set kids down hour after hour doing low grade clerical work, don’t be surprised if they start to fidget...they are suffering from childhood...”
Good advice to stop medicating children into zombies with psychoactive medications...
Tony soprano summed that stuff up best.
Currently a highschool student and I find that I really have trouble focusing in school and I feel like I’m tired all the time no matter how much sleep I get. Any tips?
Stop being depressed.
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Suicide and depression rate just decreased by 75%!!!!
All of this because a RUclips comment!!!!
"Stop being depressed." said the madlad!!!!
I miss knowing he was among us. May you be long and fondly remembered, Sir Ken.
Hello Lisa how are you doing hope you’re doing okay ✅
By far the best TED talk ever. Absolute genius- this guy.
I have just started listening to these talks and support 100%. As a teacher of 40+ years experience every single thing he says is right. I despair of a system, truly supporting education, who doesn't take these words of wisdom on board.
Ken Robinson is fast becoming my hero. He voices my exact thoughts regarding education.
Being in school currently to become an inclusive elementary teacher this has been one of the best talks I’ve ever seen
We have a lot to learn from Finnish education system.
Im from Finland and the education system sucks.
AND from Finnish parenting. Honestly, finish pupils are SO different. You can't compare them! You cannot simply take the Finnish system and think that it will work perfectly with non-Finnish children....
@@kasperimatias8744 I thought about that exactly. It seems better where are no ourselves but the main learning system is dead in entire world
Kasperi Matias Why? Can you elaborate on that
I'm a Vietnamese (well you can forget my name, it's just a pseudonym) and I can tell you that Vietnamese gov don't seem to want to develop a better education. Our university entrance exam is held nationally every year, with the same regulations, the same tests, the same questions and is taken only once a year. This exam is so important that it can actually determine your whole future, and yet the gov change exam regulations every single year, making students and parents and teachers confusing and stressed, especially students. This year, for example, regulations for the university entrance exam are changed when there are only 3 months left until the day the exam starts because of the epidemic. The new regulations make students study twice the amount of knowledge compared to before with only 3 months left! I wish my country has someone as great as you to help us students have a better learning environment and better teachers that not only focus on tests but also provoke students's interest. I know this is long, thank you whoever's reading this. Vietnamese students are mostly hard-working and bright, so I just think that it would be a waste if they're educated like that.
it's the same on the UK too, the processing of young lives, being taught not to question and comply with the system....
Yea, Canada is not much different...yet he mentioned Canada as one of the better ones... If so it's not much better..
He mentioned Australia as a country that sees professional development as an investment. I wonder if he knows that it's actually a punishment.
R.I.P. Sir Ken Robinson. Your legend will live on.
Can this guy just be the president already
+Jacob Krost
British passport,sorry :(
+Jacob Krost Duuuuude I was just about to say this!!!! xD
a British as a America President?
why yes... that is the best idea EVER!
Jacob Krost the American dream
Jacob Krost well no he can't, he wasn't born in the states
This dude has to stop talking, he's about to break the Matrix
GOOD lets help him!!!
i know,ilearn so mutch. And i know what you did there.
I just noticed this comment has 404 comments lol what a coincidence
An agent will show up and twist his arm
More spirit assemblies yeah go team sick hop!
I don't let schooling interfere with my education
Darren Lim ... Brilliant !!!
Mark Twain was brilliant.
Right~on ☀
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But how do u do tht
I've just watched this video again and it's sad and awesome at the same time. It's sad to know that Sir Ken Robinson is not here anymore but it's also a blessing to know we've got this video showing that his teachings are alive and helping others.
I wish I could one day get to be and do one third of what he did to help this world become a better place.
Rest in peace!
I have to say that this man is one of the best people I've seen on the internet.
His talks are totally worth watching and should have many times more views!
Sir Ken Robinson, thank you so much♥️
Anyone else watching these through quarantine after releasing what a hold school had over them and just thinking where has my teenagerhood gone?
me right now
@FlyingMonkies325 7
One day in the early 90s while in 2nd grade, I opened my aunt’s high school algebra book and tried to do some exercise problems. The next day, I brought my work to my teacher and asked her to double check my answers. She said, “That’s not algebra. Go sit down.” That’s when I realized grade school teachers had more important things to be concerned with than facilitate a love for learning.
I have watched this a number of times. I have forwarded it to friends and contacts across a wide range... Rest in peace.
He is right. I was in college to be teacher in the 1980's. Teachers then taught us to learn. It changed. my son was harmed by the no child left behind. all rights reserved
This guy is incredibly intelligent and incredibly funny at the same time,
Truly inspiring talk....
The only way "No child left behind" works, is if no one goes anywhere.
It does not work by any measure or metric outside of the capitalist greed monster that grips America by the throat and the butt of a gun.
@@TheJdmartinjax i think you have capitalism and crony corporatism mixed up and/or dont understand the difference between the 2. Capitalism encourages small business, innovation, creativity and drive and does not regulate it but rather lets the market decide. Crony corporatism however gets govt mixed up in it and regulates the life out if it so that people without a lot of capital behind them struggle to get started because of all the OHS, environmental, and many many other regulatory hoops that they have to jump through to get started. Meanwhile massive corporations get govt to put even more restrictions in place while making it "appear" like they comply and when caught out get fines that to them are little more than a slap on the wrist but to a small business those same fines would kill them
@@hembrasalvaje Fair enough. So then US hasn't had *capitalism* since I was around 3 yrs old - and I'm 60.
And technically - never. Capitalism is a theory like socialism. . .no true forms of either.
@@hembrasalvaje "Crony capitalism" has NOTHING directly to do with governmental regulation; it's more a manifestation of tribalism. rewarding friends in spite of contravening logic.....
@ It's easy to make someone put in effort when they enjoy what they are doing.
Rest in peace, Sir Ken Robinson. I can only hope that people will continue the ideas you started. (And so far, I'll admit that not many have yet.)
Whoa 😳 he commanded the stage with insight, humour and vision!! Bravo 👏🏽
I believe Psychology should be taught from elementary school all the way up to high school, The lack of this is the reason why most people live dysfunctional screwed up lives
Gerardo R and children are not scolded enough these days
Scolding is a travesty
Gerardo R Then we might as well have religion.
Gerardo R ?
Psychology is not the best science to teach
My narrow-minded, old-school uncle used to say: "Those who can - do; those who can't - can teach." I corrected him: "Those who can - do; those who can't - don't." It's like we do not venerate teachers very much. But to turn the American educational system around as imagined in this video we must as a culture, as a nation raise teachers to a higher level of respect than currently.
Just found this talk, what a revelation by Sir Ken. He has simplified the message to encourage learning and release that creativity that all children have. Sad to hear he passed a couple of years ago - so much to give the "learners" of the world, wherever they are.
You were and still are one of my idols, role model & mentor. Thanks for everything. RIP.
I love this man, he puts me in a good mood and inspires me to let others know how brilliant everyone is.
I so admire this courageous man. He's right. My beloved godson was failed by the education system.
The content is so dense that a re-watch is simply necessary to grasp all of the fine details of Ken's talk. Its always amazing to re-listen to this and always enlightening, like the first time I heard him speak.
We need more persons like him in earth.
"So in place of curiosity, what we have is a culture of compliance. Our children and teachers are encouraged to follow routine algorithms, rather than to excite that power of imagination and curiosity."
Every teacher and educator should listen to this man.
@Galzerok "die"? wtf?
It's so depressing that we lost a gem like you, Sir. RIP we will dearly miss your presence among all educators alike.
I think one thing that we need to rethink is AP classes. They look good to colleges, but in the end the point on them is never to learn, it's simply to pass an AP exam,
+Jessica Lindly YESSS!! Doing some over-rated, unneseccerilly long homework now. :P
+Jessica Lindly I felt the exact same way in AP World History. I love history, but I felt like I had to to put that aside, I had to pass an exam.
+Jessica Lindly Here, Here! I not learned good with AP English.
That's dependent on the classroom. Some AP classes can be like that, but in others you can genuinely learn the material, while simultaneously getting a 5 on the test. It really depends on the teacher. I think AP tests, in theory, should be an afterthought. The education is what's important, and the test is just to prove you understood it. The problem is the kind of classes that make the test the priority instead of the education. That's what makes it feel repetitive and mundane.
Karl Hiramanek Exactly! One of the biggest problems with the school system here in the USA is that we teach to the test instead of testing what we teach.
Sadly there are 4 types of people, not 3
-immovable (those who don't give a damn)
-movable (those who see the need for change)
-people who move (create movements)
-people who stop those who move (you know who they are)
Swapnil Jadhav . .The ones with the power at the moment , may not want change. For it may reduce their power, influence or control. Movements can be good. Or movements can be bad. Hopefully people will have or gain the wisdom to know the difference, maybe. We could destroy the Earth with no movement, or the wrong movement. Or save it, not only for ourselves and future generations. But also for other life here on Earth.
The fourth type are the teachers unions. They block any and all of the ideas mentioned in this talk.
Swapnil Jadhav n
Excellent !!!
The reason Franklin did-ln't mention the fourth, idls, becsuse ge wastoo close to politicians and did not want to insult them.
A gem among Ted Talks: a great speaker with fantastic content aimed at practical application.
When our older son quit school to be home schooled, he said, "Excellent. Now I can start learning." Then when we allowed our younger son to be homeschooled, it took the high school six weeks before they realized he was missing , and when they rang me to find out why he wasn't going to school, they mixed him up with another child. The boys then had control over what and how they approached their own learning, and started to learn so much more.