The ability to read aloud. Not just to say words but give them life. Not to overwhelm with inflection and idiosyncratic delivery, not to distract from the reading by exaggerated or disingenuous emoting. This is the skill which AI can never apprehend. You have this skill.
Having only recently obtained the kindle of Fagle's translation of the Odyssey and the Iliad, both on a super sale, I can say this episode along with the mention of Manly P Hall's lecture and ultimately this very source material by Thomas Taylor, I am thrilled to dive in headlong into this awesome allegorical reading by The Modern Hermeticist, Dan Attrell! A most appropriate offering for the algodaemons to carry incense smoke to Olympus!
When I read the Odyssey in secondary school I knew it had a deeper allegorical meaning of the soul's ascent, and ever since then I deeply desired an explanation like this. Many thanks to you for opening my eyes to the neoplatonic interpretation and the name Thomas Taylor. May your works be richly rewarded!
Edmund Burke’s “A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful” has been eye opening to me -thank you for this as well 🙏
Thomas Taylor is the goat, I have his second edition of the Orphic Hymns and the introduction hits like a freight train, the man was doing the big think. Simps for Proclus pretty hard though, and I'm mixed on the guy myself, but he's the big-brain in this domain so there's some magic there.
Thank you so much, I treasure this and have listened to it many times already. You're doing good work for those of us who care about Thomas Taylor and his life's work, thank you, Dr. Attrell. Your voice and reading are appropriate and complementary to the material that you're reading, it is all so beautifully well executed. You're the best. I listened to your reading of Taylor's "On the Cave of the Nymphs" many times before this came out, and had tentatively reached some of the conclusions elaborated here, which feels good, but to hear Taylor's later mature voice confirming these conclusions feels like a kind of wonderful validation. I've been enjoying your content for a few years, I purchased and read your translation of the Ghayat al Hakim, and I just want to say, thank you so much for being a scholar of care and conscience and cultivation. Personally, I've been reading Proclus' commentaries and each one is full of amazing and surprising insights, I just love the neoplatonists and their contributions to philosophy, theology, and culture, it seems to my mind to be the most refined and beautiful of all ways of thinking, and I wish more people had a chance to have contact with it, so I am very grateful for the work that you do.
Wow how synchronous that I'm fighting w my base desires addictions and other habits. The RUclips algorithm brought this up. Perfect timing! Hey thx for the content.
Odysseus describing himself as Nobody (when dealing with Polyphrmos) speaks to "kenosis," emptying out, reminds me of Bernard Sylvestris interpreting the name Aneas (as "Roman Odysseus") as "in-dweller"
I needed this. I didn't know it, but I needed this on a visceral level. Thank you, I am not certain words can express the impact of and importance of your work! 💜
The content on this channel is sweet, nourishing *_gala_* from the breast of Sophia. Perfect food for a baby like me. After listening to this, I grew up a bit. Now, I feel like a preschooler. 😂😂 Thank you, Teacher.
I have loved your readings man for the last few years, it would be cool to hear you read through some of the Buddhist scriptures. Like the pali cannon, you will find all sorts of hidden stuff in there.
I’m convinced that whoever compiled the Iliad and the odyssey had to have come from some highly intelligent individuals. I watched all your videos on the course of history, so where do you think the stories came from which peoples
how were these stories translated but the peotic rhyming was maintained? if greeks wrote it then how did they translate to english and keep the rhyming rhymed?
First time I've heard the demiurge mentioned in a positive light. Father wouldn't be so lonely if he called up Mom. 🤪 Just sayin'... 😬 Hot damn i love being the fool! 🤣 Be well all, and thanks for all this hard work my man, crazy stuff.
@@TheModernHermeticist World Philosophy Congress XXV.... a controlled stampede of ideas. Over 2,000 delegates. Mostly VERY interesting but with a constant suspicion that something even more interesting is going on in a parallel session. Breaks between sessions are even more interesting when drinking with some random geezer from Slovenia whose expertise is vocally induced religious trance states, and a Japanese practicioner of Suriashi Zen walking, and European psychonauts. Lots of fun with the perennial problem - everybody trying to figure out if their ''connection to the outside'' is the same outside, or another outside altogether.
All the ancient poets were initiates of the mysteries. Depending on which order you join and actually study you'll see with the heart and not the mind. 🤫
i sometimes feel like personal familiar with and to ancient writers. like those who wrote the bible and other religious text. and principled... reasons. i suppose i just think i am in contact with the ancient ones. from thousands of years ago up to this day in the most insane and impossible way of thinking of it, like i think i am god and i dunno what to make of that. BUT i do think all i want is good for you. so i hope you stop being religious and start being human. stop being citizen and start being human. stop being a bank statement and start being human. you have all knowledge and all possible things are there for you and you can do it all, you can be a hero like anyone else and you can know jesus is right and you can know easily money and voting is evil.
It's pretty standard for 19th century English (and most of Europe outside of Greece, where Roman/Romance-language influence far outstrips Greek influence).
Spending 19 years as an initiate my several orders, just another RUclips / social media poser. Who thinks he's into "esoteric" truth are just exoteric bullshit. You guys are insipid and so easy to spot as try hards. Humble yourself you swine.
Before the 20th century, in places where Latin/Roman influence outstripped Greek influence (i.e., everywhere in Western Europe), Latin names were far more customary.
@@TheModernHermeticist it's still Greek. The only Latin names i use are Mercury ( sounds much cooler) and Hercules. Latin is a far more beautiful language than ancient Greek, or what little i've heard of it, but The Odyssey is still a Greek story, centering on Odyssyus. I know the Odyssey, and the Iliad in Greek, or in English translations, using Greek names. I detrest the Roman names. Im surprised the lobotomized left isn't screaming "cultural inappropriation," ( whatever nonsensicle term they invented) but of course that's a ONE WAY MARXIST street. And since all roads lead to Rome, even pothole- ridden, unpaved, mud and blood filled, one-way Marxist roads, I'm fighting an uphill battle, but still its onward and more importantly "upward," in other words, "excelsior." We just can't get away from that Latin can we. I love the sound Latin but the Odyssey is Greek, and Odyssyus is its main character, and it always will be so. Funny in Italy, they call it the Odyssey and use the Greek names for the characters. Ever here this song? It's by an Italian Symphonic Metal band, but the reality is the hot chick singer, Nicoletta Roselini is the band. You might appreciate this song, " Cerce's Spell." Google the lyrics. This is her old band kaladia. She has a new band called "Alterium" which means nothing at all but she chose it guess why? Because it "sounded Latin" of course lol. True story. She has a nice voice and she is quite hot, and she likes metal...The trifecta for the win IMO. It's a cool song. ruclips.net/video/B8gzOrAyt2s/видео.htmlsi=juYvN8NZFaQRUOnH.
RUclips non-initiates are the funniest people on earth. Thank you for the amusing entertainment. Hooked on the phoney phoenicians. The snake chasing its own tails or tales... Much to learn and reflect on. Your goals keep you in mental gaols. 😉
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Please like, share, and leave a comment to be a sweet-smelling incense for the cleansing of Odysseus' house.
The ability to read aloud. Not just to say words but give them life. Not to overwhelm with inflection and idiosyncratic delivery, not to distract from the reading by exaggerated or disingenuous emoting. This is the skill which AI can never apprehend. You have this skill.
🙏🙏🙏
Having only recently obtained the kindle of Fagle's translation of the Odyssey and the Iliad, both on a super sale, I can say this episode along with the mention of Manly P Hall's lecture and ultimately this very source material by Thomas Taylor, I am thrilled to dive in headlong into this awesome allegorical reading by The Modern Hermeticist, Dan Attrell! A most appropriate offering for the algodaemons to carry incense smoke to Olympus!
As always your readings are cherished and will continue to be appreciated! Thank you! Your work does not fall on deaf ears.
When I read the Odyssey in secondary school I knew it had a deeper allegorical meaning of the soul's ascent, and ever since then I deeply desired an explanation like this. Many thanks to you for opening my eyes to the neoplatonic interpretation and the name Thomas Taylor. May your works be richly rewarded!
Edmund Burke’s “A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful” has been eye opening to me -thank you for this as well 🙏
Thomas Taylor is the goat, I have his second edition of the Orphic Hymns and the introduction hits like a freight train, the man was doing the big think. Simps for Proclus pretty hard though, and I'm mixed on the guy myself, but he's the big-brain in this domain so there's some magic there.
Researching the overlaps between Orphism/Pythagoreanism/Platonism also. Taylor is good
I have nearly the complete Thomas Taylor series from the Prometheus Trust!
Really needed this, what a brilliant piece all the way around. Thank you Dan.
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Thank you so much, I treasure this and have listened to it many times already. You're doing good work for those of us who care about Thomas Taylor and his life's work, thank you, Dr. Attrell. Your voice and reading are appropriate and complementary to the material that you're reading, it is all so beautifully well executed. You're the best. I listened to your reading of Taylor's "On the Cave of the Nymphs" many times before this came out, and had tentatively reached some of the conclusions elaborated here, which feels good, but to hear Taylor's later mature voice confirming these conclusions feels like a kind of wonderful validation. I've been enjoying your content for a few years, I purchased and read your translation of the Ghayat al Hakim, and I just want to say, thank you so much for being a scholar of care and conscience and cultivation. Personally, I've been reading Proclus' commentaries and each one is full of amazing and surprising insights, I just love the neoplatonists and their contributions to philosophy, theology, and culture, it seems to my mind to be the most refined and beautiful of all ways of thinking, and I wish more people had a chance to have contact with it, so I am very grateful for the work that you do.
Thank you for this very kind and encouraging message Brandon
great breakdown, just beautiful
Fantastic! Thanks for adding this to the playlist too.
Excellent read and perfect tempo. Profound insight in this treasured discourse. Thank you for breathing life into it.
Love Taylor and the elocution of your narration was fantastic. Having said that, as a Hellene....
IT'S ODYSSEUS. POSEIDON, etc.
That's on Taylor and the victorians lol
This text is a true gem.
What a pleasure to hear a book like this read without err.
Very good! I have been a longstanding student of taylort and his divine works. A true LOST knowledge.
Wow how synchronous that I'm fighting w my base desires addictions and other habits. The RUclips algorithm brought this up. Perfect timing! Hey thx for the content.
Hell Yeah, Dan always delivers!!! Thank You Bro!
the Thomas Taylor podcast is back
Keep up the exceptional work, Dan 👍
Thanks as always Jason
Odysseus describing himself as Nobody (when dealing with Polyphrmos) speaks to "kenosis," emptying out, reminds me of Bernard Sylvestris interpreting the name Aneas (as "Roman Odysseus") as "in-dweller"
Ah, a fellow Cosmographia-enjoyer.
@@TheModernHermeticist Indeed!
I needed this. I didn't know it, but I needed this on a visceral level. Thank you, I am not certain words can express the impact of and importance of your work!
💜
This was wonderful. Thank you.
The content on this channel is sweet, nourishing *_gala_* from the breast of Sophia.
Perfect food for a baby like me.
After listening to this, I grew up a bit. Now, I feel like a preschooler. 😂😂 Thank you, Teacher.
This is so good. Sooo good. I’m going to actually read this one.
Absolutely fucking brilliant.
Thank you.
Liked and shared.
Godspeed.
Thank you kindly
Looks like another banger 🌊🙏🏻
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Many thanx dan, i suspect some interesting reflections on my bike ride this afternoon 🙏👌🚲🤔
Thanks as always Timnizle
Thank you!
The Modern Hermeticist, one of the Seven Wonders of the Internet.
I have loved your readings man for the last few years, it would be cool to hear you read through some of the Buddhist scriptures. Like the pali cannon, you will find all sorts of hidden stuff in there.
Thank you for this piece good Sir:)
My pleasure, thanks for listening.
Thank you
good video, just a little suggestion, it's better to render de video as vertical to read in a phone, thanks a lot
Thanks!
Thanks Einlan!
I’m convinced that whoever compiled the Iliad and the odyssey had to have come from some highly intelligent individuals. I watched all your videos on the course of history, so where do you think the stories came from which peoples
how were these stories translated but the peotic rhyming was maintained? if greeks wrote it then how did they translate to english and keep the rhyming rhymed?
Almost like it was planned, huh? 😅 I thought the same exact thing.
Alexander Pope whose translation they used is a literary titan
A great upload as always. Would you be able to tell me what the art used in the thumbnail is?
Odysseus - Alexander Rothaug
Ulysses with Calypso - Maurice Denis
@@TheModernHermeticist of course. Rothaug was so far ahead of his time
I like the indigo background, looks like fingerpainting.
Amazing!
I'm glad I'm not late to the party hi Dan
Goes to show intelligence doesn't always acount for much.
Apart from the true vine everything is vain.
How can the writer described as "an anonymous, Greek writer" rightly be described as anonymous when, in that same sentence, he is NAMED?
Very cool
Homer was the greatest of them all, the Trojans Liars!
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Dan is in a class by himself
Yes
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Would Uranus fall in between like Neptune, Also what about Mercury, i thought the greeks thought Hermes was the middle of luna /selene and venus.
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First time I've heard the demiurge mentioned in a positive light. Father wouldn't be so lonely if he called up Mom. 🤪 Just sayin'... 😬 Hot damn i love being the fool! 🤣 Be well all, and thanks for all this hard work my man, crazy stuff.
The Demiurge is painted in a positive light in the Pistis Sophia. You may want to check it out.
@@tohuvavohu Thank you friend. Will look into it.
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please the paintings names
Odysseus - Alexander Rothaug
Ulysses with Calypso - Maurice Denis
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Are you in Rome this week for the Congress? Hope so ! II so, see you soon1 M X
I wish I were in Rome this week! What's the congress?
@@TheModernHermeticist World Philosophy Congress XXV.... a controlled stampede of ideas. Over 2,000 delegates. Mostly VERY interesting but with a constant suspicion that something even more interesting is going on in a parallel session. Breaks between sessions are even more interesting when drinking with some random geezer from Slovenia whose expertise is vocally induced religious trance states, and a Japanese practicioner of Suriashi Zen walking, and European psychonauts. Lots of fun with the perennial problem - everybody trying to figure out if their ''connection to the outside'' is the same outside, or another outside altogether.
I literally have no idea what you are on about. Thanks though
when u doin galenus or have u already done that shits wild lol
@4:41 Ha!
All the ancient poets were initiates of the mysteries. Depending on which order you join and actually study you'll see with the heart and not the mind. 🤫
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I put cinnamon and stevia on my watermelon
Try it with feta cheese
You have to be Turkish
@@ArifKhan-vh2gx hillbilly but bless you
Slave to the senses, lol.
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Thanks Dan! now whenever xtians make fun of my Gods, I'll show em this!
Love this stuff, but the Roman names blow my wheels off to some degree.
There was no Neptune in Ulysses time.
Neptune is a demonic entity. Whether he was named or not.
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The likes of Nero are always amongst us
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i sometimes feel like personal familiar with and to ancient writers. like those who wrote the bible and other religious text. and principled... reasons. i suppose i just think i am in contact with the ancient ones. from thousands of years ago up to this day in the most insane and impossible way of thinking of it, like i think i am god and i dunno what to make of that. BUT i do think all i want is good for you. so i hope you stop being religious and start being human. stop being citizen and start being human. stop being a bank statement and start being human. you have all knowledge and all possible things are there for you and you can do it all, you can be a hero like anyone else and you can know jesus is right and you can know easily money and voting is evil.
It would be nice to have Greek gods' names instead of roman references... I dont know, but they seem odd and fake (all due respect)
It's pretty standard for 19th century English (and most of Europe outside of Greece, where Roman/Romance-language influence far outstrips Greek influence).
Can't believe this guy has the intellect to speak greek but wastes it on nonsense like hermeticism.
Greek only worths it for Neoplatonism and Hermeticism and other esoteric things.
Is there really many applications for knowing Greek today? I'm sure there are plentiful jobs for Greek instructors. 😂
Can’t believe you hate hermeticism and decided to watch a channel called ‘The modern hermeticist’
@@PastPerspectives11 you have to study it to know it is nonsense.
Spending 19 years as an initiate my several orders, just another RUclips / social media poser. Who thinks he's into "esoteric" truth are just exoteric bullshit. You guys are insipid and so easy to spot as try hards. Humble yourself you swine.
Oh for Christs sake. This overthunk ponderous analysis of Ulysses totally misses his Soul healing in the path of Hermes Trimajestus.
1 hour of gobblygook
@@alloffchrome9115lol
Boring presentation
Read the myth
Jesus, it's a Greek story, why all the damned Latin names. I find that madening.
Before the 20th century, in places where Latin/Roman influence outstripped Greek influence (i.e., everywhere in Western Europe), Latin names were far more customary.
@@TheModernHermeticist it's still Greek. The only Latin names i use are Mercury ( sounds much cooler) and Hercules. Latin is a far more beautiful language than ancient Greek, or what little i've heard of it, but The Odyssey is still a Greek story, centering on Odyssyus. I know the Odyssey, and the Iliad in Greek, or in English translations, using Greek names. I detrest the Roman names. Im surprised the lobotomized left isn't screaming "cultural inappropriation," ( whatever nonsensicle term they invented) but of course that's a ONE WAY MARXIST street. And since all roads lead to Rome, even pothole- ridden, unpaved, mud and blood filled, one-way Marxist roads, I'm fighting an uphill battle, but still its onward and more importantly "upward," in other words, "excelsior." We just can't get away from that Latin can we. I love the sound Latin but the Odyssey is Greek, and Odyssyus is its main character, and it always will be so.
Funny in Italy, they call it the Odyssey and use the Greek names for the characters. Ever here this song? It's by an Italian Symphonic Metal band, but the reality is the hot chick singer, Nicoletta Roselini is the band. You might appreciate this song, " Cerce's Spell." Google the lyrics. This is her old band kaladia. She has a new band called "Alterium" which means nothing at all but she chose it guess why? Because it "sounded Latin" of course lol. True story. She has a nice voice and she is quite hot, and she likes metal...The trifecta for the win IMO. It's a cool song. ruclips.net/video/B8gzOrAyt2s/видео.htmlsi=juYvN8NZFaQRUOnH.
RUclips non-initiates are the funniest people on earth. Thank you for the amusing entertainment. Hooked on the phoney phoenicians. The snake chasing its own tails or tales... Much to learn and reflect on. Your goals keep you in mental gaols. 😉
The answer is never separated from the question. There's a really good reason why that is. 😑
@@A-No-One what the fuck are you babbling about.
Thank you
Thank you