Glory to those alongside Julian who attempted to rekindle the ancient flame. Let us prove such men and their action weren’t for nought, that we still have the possibility to reclaim our once illustrious empire, and all the possibilities she once carried..
Sallust is amazing. Midwit Christians will insult the gods and cite myths where Jove commits adultery etc. When Sallust explains simply how myths are allegories and riddles for the wise to unlock. To believe them literally was for the caste of children and dumb. There is none greater and more loving than the blessed Olympians. May we return to their welcome and loving arms like children lost from their parents.
By Jove himself you are right my brother. To actively believe that the myths foretold in its literal sense, that which Christian’s do with their Bible, is nonsensical and only for those who possess no wisdom. To interpret myths literally would make you look like a child. No God can ‘commit adultery’. They are the cause of good things.
Thank you for this, I've listened to it many times and I feel like the 2nd century and later perspective on the Greek myths is a very sophisticated form of religion, that keeps the feeling of the sacred, that honors the ancient stories, but also finds a way to dignify them and through allegory, give them an explicitly mystical / psychological significance that makes them universal and timeless. The later classical period was a period of beauty and sophisticated thinking that is SO underrated by historians and philosophers, to the point that for centuries modernity has looked on them as degenerate and backwards when the commentaries and compilations they created in the "Second Sophistic" are so much more apt as a framework for happiness and roadmap to enlightenment than any of the (sorry, invective here) garbage of the modern era. We moderns ought to be humbled to the point of embarrassment when we compare our philosophers with theirs, and moderns are always trashing them as "unoriginal" and "derivative". Well, if your culture has genuine and glorious traditions at its core, innovation isn't that important - I think moderns are jealous of the late classical Greek authors because they knew who they were and had a lineage of courageous and complex thinkers worthy of reverence. We have logical positivism and post-modernism and existentialism, philosophies that are stark and dark, gloomy and hopeless because that's the overall character of the 20th century Western world, where we couldn't think of any better way to use geniuses than to send them to Los Alamos.
Interesting comment. I am a complete novice in this field but am learning new things. Your comment provides much food for thought and motivates one to explore and look deeper. 🙏👍
omg, thank you so much!! i was searching for the pdf of this book because it is very expensive in my country, but couldn't find it. your video popped up randomly, and I'm so glad it did
Extremely interesting. Completely disproves the usual Christian apologetic position that pagan theology was simplistic and paganism was just praying to get what you want from the gods.
One need only look toward the philosophical depth of Hinduism to know that so-called "Paganism" has the capacity for incredible insight and subtlety. Hellenism, especially by Plato and certainly by the time of the Neoplatonists, was much like Hinduism post-Shankara in that regard. We should also not mistake monism for polytheism.
@@kornelszecsi6512 Go and ask any Christian apologist why people followed pagan gods with any faith. Ask them to describe a typical pagan’s religious life and how they perceived their gods’ relation to themselves. Their answer is literally either this or “Satan brainwashed them”.
@@choptop81 No, as a Christian I don't think paganism is necessararly a result of Satans brainwashing, simply the dulness of the human mind to worship lower beings.
Bro, this is Neoplatonic polytheism, it's completely different from literalistic, myth based polytheism. On the other hand I agree with you, the common Christian tactic doesn't work on Neoplatonism.
Very interesting! Thank you, as always, for your excellent work! I didn't know Sallust wrote philosophical treatises! I thought he was pretty much a historian; no reason someone can't be both, but I thought that was what he was most known for, in any case. Are there any other translations or editions of this text outside of Taylor's?
Different (much later) Sallust! I'm not sure if there's another translation out there, though I did see yesterday that there was a recent SHWEP episode on this text which may answer that question.
All of these moral guidelines sound identical to all the Christian values I grew up with: from divorced parents; one side Lutheran and the other Catholic. And then my former step dad flipped all of that by his constant athiestic arguments to assert himself above me to make me feel eternally wrong about everything while me as a person is finite and not eternal, which only pushed me into my own ideological rebellion/contrarianism mindset that makes me question everything to no end.
Hi. So...our bodies whither and die therefore our bodies are evil and were made by the evil. Our souls are immortal therefore they are good and were made by the good? Geesh. To bad they don't just say so.
Thank you kindly for the bountiful buffet of information so many ideas and concepts a true feast for the mind🤌🙏 I really appreciate all the videos and artwork and philosophical works contained therein, your literature is proving to be ripe w knowledge aswell. Many thanks Dan, u r a gentleman and scholar, truly 😁
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Bury a pig under a cross decorated with flowers, drink ginger tea and say the Lord's Prayer 1000 times. It works I swear.
Glory to those alongside Julian who attempted to rekindle the ancient flame.
Let us prove such men and their action weren’t for nought, that we still have the possibility to reclaim our once illustrious empire, and all the possibilities she once carried..
@@augustcanyon3438 Indeed… Pragmatic, tangible action…
This one is loaded with goodies! 🙏🏼 Appreciate You Dan!
🙏 Appreciate you too Jeff 🙏
Sallust is amazing.
Midwit Christians will insult the gods and cite myths where Jove commits adultery etc.
When Sallust explains simply how myths are allegories and riddles for the wise to unlock. To believe them literally was for the caste of children and dumb.
There is none greater and more loving than the blessed Olympians.
May we return to their welcome and loving arms like children lost from their parents.
By Jove himself you are right my brother. To actively believe that the myths foretold in its literal sense, that which Christian’s do with their Bible, is nonsensical and only for those who possess no wisdom. To interpret myths literally would make you look like a child. No God can ‘commit adultery’. They are the cause of good things.
Always delightful to see a new upload. Thanks!
Thanks for all your awesome work, Dr Attrell 👏
Thank you for this, I've listened to it many times and I feel like the 2nd century and later perspective on the Greek myths is a very sophisticated form of religion, that keeps the feeling of the sacred, that honors the ancient stories, but also finds a way to dignify them and through allegory, give them an explicitly mystical / psychological significance that makes them universal and timeless. The later classical period was a period of beauty and sophisticated thinking that is SO underrated by historians and philosophers, to the point that for centuries modernity has looked on them as degenerate and backwards when the commentaries and compilations they created in the "Second Sophistic" are so much more apt as a framework for happiness and roadmap to enlightenment than any of the (sorry, invective here) garbage of the modern era. We moderns ought to be humbled to the point of embarrassment when we compare our philosophers with theirs, and moderns are always trashing them as "unoriginal" and "derivative". Well, if your culture has genuine and glorious traditions at its core, innovation isn't that important - I think moderns are jealous of the late classical Greek authors because they knew who they were and had a lineage of courageous and complex thinkers worthy of reverence. We have logical positivism and post-modernism and existentialism, philosophies that are stark and dark, gloomy and hopeless because that's the overall character of the 20th century Western world, where we couldn't think of any better way to use geniuses than to send them to Los Alamos.
Interesting comment. I am a complete novice in this field but am learning new things. Your comment provides much food for thought and motivates one to explore and look deeper. 🙏👍
It's reassuring to read the comments on this channel and see that thinking people still exist.
omg, thank you so much!! i was searching for the pdf of this book because it is very expensive in my country, but couldn't find it. your video popped up randomly, and I'm so glad it did
Extremely interesting. Completely disproves the usual Christian apologetic position that pagan theology was simplistic and paganism was just praying to get what you want from the gods.
One need only look toward the philosophical depth of Hinduism to know that so-called "Paganism" has the capacity for incredible insight and subtlety. Hellenism, especially by Plato and certainly by the time of the Neoplatonists, was much like Hinduism post-Shankara in that regard. We should also not mistake monism for polytheism.
You just strawmanned the Christian position.
@@kornelszecsi6512 Go and ask any Christian apologist why people followed pagan gods with any faith. Ask them to describe a typical pagan’s religious life and how they perceived their gods’ relation to themselves. Their answer is literally either this or “Satan brainwashed them”.
@@choptop81 No, as a Christian I don't think paganism is necessararly a result of Satans brainwashing, simply the dulness of the human mind to worship lower beings.
Bro, this is Neoplatonic polytheism, it's completely different from literalistic, myth based polytheism. On the other hand I agree with you, the common Christian tactic doesn't work on Neoplatonism.
The section discussing reason anger and desire is particularly poignant for my own soul. Thanks for sharing Dan
Thank you for this channel ........ my evenings are set for a while. Tremendous appreciation
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You’re cooking over here man keep up the good work
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Once again, many thanks for a wonderful reading of a key text. Much appreciated.
Thanks as always MDP
Ta Dan wonderful x
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Very interesting! Thank you, as always, for your excellent work!
I didn't know Sallust wrote philosophical treatises! I thought he was pretty much a historian; no reason someone can't be both, but I thought that was what he was most known for, in any case. Are there any other translations or editions of this text outside of Taylor's?
Different (much later) Sallust! I'm not sure if there's another translation out there, though I did see yesterday that there was a recent SHWEP episode on this text which may answer that question.
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All of these moral guidelines sound identical to all the Christian values I grew up with: from divorced parents; one side Lutheran and the other Catholic. And then my former step dad flipped all of that by his constant athiestic arguments to assert himself above me to make me feel eternally wrong about everything while me as a person is finite and not eternal, which only pushed me into my own ideological rebellion/contrarianism mindset that makes me question everything to no end.
i guess its Time for a walk
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Hi. So...our bodies whither and die therefore our bodies are evil and were made by the evil. Our souls are immortal therefore they are good and were made by the good? Geesh. To bad they don't just say so.
What happened? Bring your old voice back!!
Got a cold
The gods are...boring
The Gods love you and will always wait for you to believe in them, that you may build Kharis🤲🏻.
Thank you kindly for the bountiful buffet of information so many ideas and concepts a true feast for the mind🤌🙏
I really appreciate all the videos and artwork and philosophical works contained therein, your literature is proving to be ripe w knowledge aswell.
Many thanks Dan, u r a gentleman and scholar, truly 😁
“Fifty-cent”words are a thing! Corn is contrary to the soul? Milk? You are literally making me sick in my discoursed, gluteus Maximus! 🥸