Did the Rolling Stones Rip-off The Beatles? John Lennon Thought So!
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- John Lennon expressed the opinion that The Rolling Stones were influenced by The Beatles in several aspects, citing that after The Beatles did something musically or stylistically, The Stones would often do something similar not long after. Lennon pointed out that this pattern seemed to follow in terms of musical direction, public image, and the types of songs they released. For instance, after The Beatles innovated with new studio techniques or explored different musical genres, The Rolling Stones would sometimes release music that reflected similar innovations or genre explorations.
Lennon's comments reflected a broader perception of competition and influence among bands in the 1960s music scene, where The Beatles and The Rolling Stones were two of the biggest names. However, it's also worth noting that both bands were part of a larger musical movement that was influencing all its participants. Both groups were experimenting with new sounds, incorporating diverse influences into their music, and pushing the boundaries of what popular music could be at the time.
Despite Lennon's assertions, members of The Rolling Stones, such as Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, have offered their perspectives, noting that while there was a friendly rivalry, there was also mutual respect and influence going both ways. The relationship between the two bands was complex, characterized by both competition and camaraderie.
The idea that The Stones ripped off The Beatles is a matter of interpretation. While there were undoubtedly instances of cross-pollination in their musical ideas and public personas, it can also be argued that this was part of a broader trend of mutual influence and shared evolution within the rock and pop music scenes of the 1960s.
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I think John called it true
because...?
@@encoreunefois1Xthe world is round it turned him on on. The wind is high, it blew his mind.
The Album: Let it Be - could also be a Stones-Album so they inspire each other - Let it be (1970) und Let it bleed (1969)
Imo the rolling stones didn't become their own band until the Beatles broke up and the majority of their music through the 70s is much better than the 60s because it doesn't sound like they're trying to be anyone else. So yes. But that goes for many bands in the 60s. It's hard to fathom just how massive the Beatles were compared to basically any other artist at the time
True. The best Rolling Stones era was after 1971.
? The Stones declined after Exile and become their own covers band. Their 60s output is far superior to the crap they released after 1972.
Aftermath album? Are you crazy?
Their music was best during the 60s!
The Doors and The Beach Boys were both better bands than the Beatles and Whiter Shade of Pale is better than any Beatles song
Who didn't imitate the Beatles at that time. They were like the fountain of the whole beat music scene.
The velvet underground, frank zappa Beach boys, Clearwater revival, the doors, Bob dylan, Janis Joplin, jimi hendrix, captain beefheart, they all had there own sound
So true!!! Many, many bands tried to imitate the Beatles-- But, Brian Jones had his own sound-- He played countless instruments, as he was already an accomplished musician, and wrote many of their early songs--
@Musicmaneuvers it all came about through the inspiration of the british invasion of the USA, led by the Beatles in the 60s, even the long hair style was invented by the fab 4... por favor!
@@skykiss12 I beg to differ with regard to their hairstyle. It was Astrid Kirchherr, the Hamburg photographer who first cut her then-boyfriend's hair that style. You may recognize the name: Klaus Vormann. Stu Sutcliffe and George were so impressed with Vormann's hairstyle that they asked Astrid to give them the same cut. Then John and Paul reluctantly followed suit. Astrid took those iconic early Beatles pictures that are now worth millions. And Klaus Vormann remained their friend and collaborator for many decades. He designed their unique album covers and played bass for them at their studio recordings. He was a lifelong friend to George Harrison, even staying with him at Friar Park. De nada.
@barbaral8973 you are very well informed, alright, thanks. I'm german, so Im proud it started out in Germany. They didn't invent the hairstyle, but were the first to have it and others followed suit.
John was my favorite. I always appreciated his direct honesty.
Direct? Yes. Honest? Not always.
Lennon certainly was opinionated.
This isn’t honesty. It’s his opinion.
@@robertweingartner2055 ..how about his honest opinion.
The Beatles were here for 10 years, The Stones have been around for more than 60 years now, yet they haven't sold as many records as The Beatles have. Even though the Stones have been around for 6 times as long as The Beatles did, they still don't manage to sell as many records as The Beatles. That says everything about who was the greatest.
Nicht nur die Platten sind mehr. Ich mag auch die Musik von den Stones, aber ich bin unheilbar an Beatlemania erkrankt. Was soll ich machen? Und John's Stimme habe ich sofort erkannt. ❤
The Stones and Led Zeppelin combined haven't sold as many records as the Beatles.
I love the Beatles and I love the stones. But most of all I love John Lennon.
Hard to argue.
The Beatles and Stones will always be debated amongst the best bands of all time.In my opinion,the Beatles were the good boys who sang I Want To Hold Your Hand and the Stones sang Let’s Spend The Night Together. I loved the image of the Stones being the bad boys and getting arrested back in the day.Both bands made each other better and it’s like choosing between a beautiful blonde girl or a brunette girl,it’s just a matter of preference 😂
The Stones were city boys. The Beatles were from the provinces. If you compared who the rougher of the two groups is/was, it’s the latter, despite the image.
On the other hand, they complemented each other very well.
I think the Stones were influenced by the Beatles, not rip-offs. Sir Mick had/ has natural rhythm in his feet! Though I like the Beatles a little better, I’m a big fan of the Stones and always will be!
True the stones early on were a step behind the beatles, but by the late 60’s, the stones were the more influential band. By that point, they were fusing rock and roll with the blues, soul, r&b, country, reggae, and even disco. The stones were less polished for sure, but they were musically a better band from 68 on. The beatles on the other hand, were starting to sound dated, stale and tired, and of course, were essentially broken up by 1970. The stones continued churning out hit records up until the 90s.
Dancing like a cigarette? 🤔
Yes, because Mick’s body is skinny and white.
There use to be many sandwich men advertising fags in the streets of London during the sixties. They use to shimmy and jive (fag dance) to get your attention. This is where Jagger got his moves.
And full of nicotine
😂
@@tylercass2584 Good one! 😂 I also liked the description of Prince- someone said he was a toothpick wrapped in a purple doily.
Everyone knew them as the Rolling Stones, except John Lennon, for him they were the Trolling Stones.
Both bands are incredible
Sounds like John is the jealous one.
Stones will NEVER be equal to BEATLES! They just have the catalog and quality of songs. Two totally different Bands.
Oh yesssss.
True. But at least the Stones are still around.
nobody ever will
@@sanzoftatooine define around ?
@@sanzoftatooine totally totaly stupid, nonsense!!!! Lennon and Harrison are dead. Please ...
i miss the days when we were free to express ourselves exactly the way we wanted and share our thoughts without being censored or silenced or policed or sanitized for advertisement consumption, using exactly the verbiage we wanted.
The days when you didn’t have to care if what you say might be hurtful.
@@dailyflash the days when not everybody was a porcelain vase whos entire world crumbled the second somebody as much as looked at them sideways... making the whole of society into your hermetically sealed bubble isnt the way to go! human beings need to be able to express themselves freely! whats on the inside needs to come out without this much restrictions. and if your feelings get hurt, learn to deal with it. thats life.
We Love You -- that's the most f***ing BS I ever heard; that's All You Need Is Love. -- John
I also feel that way about his.... dancing
No. The Rolling Stones didn’t rip-off the Beatles. Like a lot of groups at the time the Stones were influenced by some things the Beatles did. I’m sure it was hard not to be influenced by the Beatles to a degree. For all the criticism Their Satanic Majesties Request gets for “copying” Sgt. Pepper, it sounds nothing like it and was no different than what other bands were doing at the time. It was the psychedelic era in music. And John was also wrong about “We Love You” being “All You Need Is Love”. The two songs were about two different things, and Mick Jagger wrote “We Love You” several months before the Beatles recorded “All You Need Is Love”, so how did he copy it?
Did John ever have anything nice to say?
Yes.
Beatles photographer said he liked John best ! " Nice kind man " " Would ask if I needed money"
Hes got a couple points like SMR is obviously the Stones attempt at a Pepper like album but to me their songs always sounded different. Some of their best songs of the 60s dont sound anything like the Beatles to me. Sympathy for the Devil, Midnight Rambler, Under My Thumb, Satisfaction, Live With Me, Monkey Man...
Yes, the Stones followed the Beatles in alot of things but, musically they were always themselves.
Very true.
Well said
Where is this interview from??
1970 Rolling Stone magazine interview Lennon Remembers. Most of which John later said was just BS cause he was stoned during most of it and very vulnerable due to the Primal Scream therapy he had recieved before the interview.
I was born in 68 wasn't around when they were making music but I'll tell you what I listen to all my music and then finally started listening to them I can tell you right now and it's not very hard that they're the best solid wall to wall no man can be asked to make an album and then go away and put together an album with lhit tracks and keep getting better and relevant who does that now everyone's irrelevant after 3 years
The stones were never really rivals of The Beatles send message just bands from England The Beach boys who are the true rivals
Lennon apparently doesn't know the difference between imitating and trolling.😊
True
How did The Rolling Stones Stay together but the Beatles couldn't ?
Right on!!! The Stones, and the Who have been playing together for 60 years, and are still touring!!! The Beatles were together for only 10 years--- Big egos develop in the big bands, but the Stones have thrived, and persevered in a very cut throat business---
Hang on, everybody was trying to imitate the Beatles at that time, it was a certain leg up for sure, the Stones soon came into their own in the mid sixties and never looked back.
Yes indeed!!! But, many of the 60's bands including the Beatles, were trying to imitate the rockers of the 50's with their early leather look, and playing style---
Satanic Majesties Request is a good album in it's own right and musically dissimilar to Peppers.
Their sixities output may sound similar in some ways but doesn’t in others to the Beatles
So John saying SMR is a ripoff of pepper definitely isn’t true well except for the cover because it was shot by the same guy
Everyone of these interviews I’ve seen makes me realize he was just a very unhappy person.
Called a spade a spade.
stones were 100% more influenced by the blues, even in the first releases. that's simply ego display by lennon.
So true. The Stones broke on the scene turning people into obscure American blues music which was a different sound than the Beatles.
@@robertweingartner2055 but equally the Beatles were influenced by skiffle and Motown.. Same thing only different..
my god, if he thought mick was a joke then, imagine what he'd think of him today, dancing around on stage in his frikin 80s 😅
Uncompromising assessment of the love generation. The disappointing part? They were all human
The master of love had a lot of hate in his heart. He just loved being worshipped and the hippies were his followers
@@younggrinch2826 Maybe. I think he got caught up in something he didn't understand
I'd have to agree with you guys-- I think John had a little jealousy over the Stones success, especially after the Beatles breakup--- John and Mick had a rivalry, for sure----
They're both good bands. They sound different to me. The Beatles are music geniuses though. They're ahead of their time.
let it bleed Is better then let it be
Your opinion is appreciated but it's a minority opinion..
@@paulmarsh8974 an album with gimme shelter and midnight rambler come on mate it's way better
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Cringe Jagger poncing about Lennon called it
From 「Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds」
「2000 Light Years From Home」is
more creative and influential
Mick sounds like the original Meghan Markel! Both Leos!!! 😂
Es cierto...todo el mundo sabe que los Rolling envidiaban a The Beatles porque...eran más guapos. 😅❤
Yep want to know if it true, just look up both band and look at the date and song titles, easy fact check.😊
I love John Lennon. But man he would be cancelled today.
I rarely (if ever) play my old Beatles records these days… but often do play my early Stones LP’s, I think they’ve actually stood the test of time better that the Fab’s recordings.
It’s the total opposite for me.
I enjoy a few hits here and there by the Stones. I respect them. I admire them.
90% of what I listen to is the Beatles though. They have very few songs I don’t like and very few that I don’t absolutely love.
Birthday, I hate it. Hmmm, that’s about it really. I can’t think of another one that I hate.
I love most of it and at least like the rest.
When the Stones hit on a good song though, they really hit on it. I think some of their songs stand toe to toe with some of the best Beatles songs. I feel the same way about David Bowie, though I would say I’m more familiar with his work.
It’s all a matter of personal taste.
You gotta be kiddng😂😂😂
I can see u dancing with jagger and bowie😂😂😂
AaahhhHahahahahahahahahaa!!
I couldn't agree with "tattyshoes" more-- When I spin a disk today, it's a Stones album--- While I love them both, and own most of their albums, I can listen to songs like Can you hear me Knockin, Bitch, Under my Thumb, etc repeatedly-----
Im sure as Father Time passed and john would have not been killed, he may have a different outlook on many things. ✌
John can say whatever he wants about Beatles but He has the right and the cred. Stones have nothing on the Four.
Lennon is one big arrogant ego
I don't think T.S.M.R. sounds ANYTHING like Pepper
I agree with you. But it was packaged to look like Pepper, and had all sorts of odd sound effects and an inescapably paisley vibe which made it impossible not to think of Pepper.
@@c.7610 Point taken.But I think Majesties problem was it came out 4 months too late.Had it been August it would have compared favourably with Piper at the Gates of Dawn.Trouble is by Dec.'67 psychedelia was considered old hat.Things moved very fast in the '60s.Far,far quicker than now.
It really doesn’t, and also Let it Bleed doesn’t copy Let it Be just because they have similar names
Lol couldn’t agree more about the fairy 🧚♀️ dancing. I’m no queen fan either.
Truth.
Once the stones went back to their blues roots in ‘68 and beyond they made the Beatles sound like an outdated pop band
by 1968 The Beatles hadn't been a Pop band for a couple years, and they didn't go back.
I agree-- When the Stones hired Mick Taylor, and released Sticky Fingers in 1968, it was basically over for the Fab Four--- The Stones then had 2 great songwriters, a great lead guitar player, and probably the best rhythm guitar player in the business--- While I bought all of their first solo records--- Photograph, McCartney, Plastic Ono Band, and All Things Must Pass after their breakup, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Goats Head Soup got me shifting my focus back on R/B, Blues, and the roots of Rock---- While I own every Beatle album incl a few imports, when I spin a disk these days, it's usually a Stones album-----
@@thomasfoss9963 Hell ya
Andrew Loog Oldham
Of course they ripped off The Beatles to a degree.
John is definitely right here!
Sounds bitter to me. In desperate need to assert some kind of superiority. Stuck in ego.
@@encoreunefois1X Everything the Beatles did the Stones copied 6 months later. It doesn’t have to be proven you can just see it. Maybe John does have an ego but he has one rightfully.
@@butchduganWell, That's your theory, and opinion--- While they may have been influenced early on by the Beatles, the Stones are certainly no copy band-- Brian Jones was a very accomplished musician, as he played more instruments well, than all of the Beatles combined--- In the 54 years since the Beatles broke up, the Stones have released countless hits, and albums, copying nobody------
@@encoreunefois1Xamen. Unfortunately, whenever John Lennon says something it’s often taken as gospel.
@@butchduganno they did not. The Stones started off playing American blues music which sounded nothing like what the Beatles were doing at the time. There were some influences at times but they weren’t always copying the Beatles six month later. Listen to Revolver (August 1966), and then listen to Between the Buttons (January 1967) and tell me they were imitating the Beatles.
I admire John Lennon I love his music, but listen to a Paul McCartney interview is always positive and upbeat and affirming and you know when you’re gonna listen to John Lennon he’s always going to be saying something negative andtrashy boring.
this is great for AI generated audio.
Stones were imitating and everyone knew it
I always liked the stones better than the Beatles.
All a creation of the Tavistock Institute
Let it Bleed? Yeah, came before Let it Be. Magesties and Pepper are musically way different. Fake beef. They were all friends, just the first beef in music. It worked but not like Biggie/Tupac, Nas and Jay-Z. It all began with The Stones and The Beatles. Which the Stones won. Beatles get an orchestra the Stones had Brian Jones. After Jones died, Mick Taylor took The Stones to another level. Love both bands. But the Stones still do it. Half the Beatles are dead, maybe 3/4 of the original band is dead (Paul McCartney/Billy Shears.
I fully agree-- until the end of your post!!! Let it Bleed came out first, so these accusations of copying, or mimicking is hogwash--- Mick Taylor is a great guitar player--- Keef is reputedly the best rhythm player in R+R-- They have countless hits, and are currently on tour after 60 years in the business---
John, proving more and more what a phony he was. All the talk about "love" while spreading nothing but hate. A total prick.
You don't know what you're talking about!
What he says is the truth, like it or not.
He wasn't a phony because he preached about love. He was always turning that sentiment inward too. He knew he had a lot of inner conflict and he shared it openly. His art was often his therapy working through his horrible childhood in blue collar, war torn Liverpool. His dad ditched the family, his mom was killed. He sings in beautiful boy, life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. In Mother he crescendos upward, crying momma don't go...daddy come home. Heartwrenching. He did have a sharp tongue, but only as he spoke his mind. He never pretended to be full of love, he only imagined it.
He talks a lot of shit for someone who couldn't play a decent live performance.
@@pedromarques7457it’s not the truth. It’s his opinion.
@@Nate-im3sgnow that is total nonsense.
Crappy editing.
Whines a lot..
Obviously 😅
Well said,John❤❤❤
I have personally always preferred The Stones. The Beatles are a museum piece, stuck in time. The Stones stayed relevant a lot longer, their albums are more soulful and organic, you can get a different vibe every time you play them. I also think it was Lennon that was jealous of Mick
100% truth
How true!
He wasn’t wrong about the Stones imitating the Beatles at one point. They stopped doing it when Sticky Fingers came out which is a classic.
You really think the Stones got the idea to play blues music from the Beatles? Blues music is their roots. It’s what brought them together as a band. Then when Jagger/Richard started writing their own material it was different then the type of songs Lennon and McCartney were writing.
It's the truth ..
Stones are good but The Beatles are Great..
Sez
Can't disagree with John on his analysis.
I sure can disagree with him.
really? why do I hear jealousy?
Hah ashiens evaluation is with no eyes eyelisss
Stones are a distant #2 then zeppelin. Case dismissed.
Beatles did more in 10 years than the lame ass stones did in 60. Mick Jagger one of or the worst singers of all time.
Gets it right BEATLESS they kindergarten band one n one n one makes three yey where’s my lollipop
I think Mr Lennon is trying to tell everyone that HE HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOUR.
who's laughing now? 🤣
Bro's NEVER seen Get Back 💀
John talked way too much trash, was hardly gracious, complimentary nor kind . A real turn off!
I totally agree with John on Mick and his dancing. Love the albums (up to Its Only Rock n Roll, which is awful), but he’s not a good frontman. Bouncing around like Tina Turner having a seizure
John Lennon was 100% a frequent liar and bitchy person, but I think he’s bang on the money here
For me the Beatles and the stones were equals.
They were both overrated.
It wasn't fair The Stones couldn't compete with the fab 4 NOBODY could.. The 70s were yours Mick you and your corny replacement for Brian
If anyone cannot perform their job, thay are going to be replaced. And musicians are not the exception.
There are other people who have stated that Brian Jones was spiraling out of control because of drug use. Also, that has happened to a lot of individuals in the entertainment industry.
Also, musicians, singers and others in the entertainment industry. Have switched bands or occupations by performing in plays, movies, or television productions.
I view the music industry the same as the movie industry. For example. A band produced an album. Doesn't matter what band or album. Now that album must sell copies, and the band will promote it by performing live or streaming on a platform.
@@jamesnash6101 now let's be honest here Mr. Jones was an alcoholic & there is only one thing in the universe that can help.. AA if anyone cared honestly he could have been helped. Never turn your back on someone that is dying from alcoholism
While I love both bands, reportedly Mick, and Keith wanted Brian out of the picture-- Brian was a very accomplished musician that could play 25 musical instruments well--- While Brian's partying ways led to his demise, There may have been some jealousy by Mick, and Keef of his enormous talent--- Mick had a different view of their future, and Brian was not a part of that view----
@@thomasfoss9963 i really like your point of view.. Yes I agree jealousy was a big part
I agree totally with John - but Their Satanic Majesties Request is a much better album than Sgt. Pepper. And this is coming from a diehard fan of The Beatles.
Better? Utter nonsense, SMR is unlistenable garbage. No musician or person of intellect would ever make such a ludicrous comment… good lord… now I’ve heard everything, Gerald!
I wouldn't put Satanic Majesties on the same level as Sgt. Pepper, but I think the comparison has led people to underrate it over the years
I low key agree with you but won’t admit it in public. Lol.
The Beatles also copied tye Stones
As in which songs?
No contest beatles
Stones didn't play cute pop songs, wrote songs of social disorder, wore street clothes onstage three years before the Beatles, everyone doing a psychedelic album in 67...John literally announced he was Jesus in 68; self-centered egomaniac.
True. Also the stones songs actually kick ass. When people say helper skelter is the first hard rock song I want to smack them.
The Beatles were wearing regular clothes before they hit it big.
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
The beatles wore leather jacket already when keith was still trying to figured out how to tune a guitar
The Stones didn't play cute pop songs because they didn't know how to write them. That's why they asked the Beatles to write I Wanna be Your Man, which became their first hit.
Man talked a lot of shit for someone who couldn't survive a couple of bullets.
Mick is the worst dancer who ever tried to rock 😂😂😂😂
Stones >the beatles
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