I hear ya. My mom was 38. Funny thing. The actress Nanette Fabray who played Mary's mother on the original MTM show is still alive today. She is 92 so she could still play her mother.
I couldn’t get past the first 20 mins of this movie. My question is why does the movies display long suffering of middle age women? I’m middle age and I’m not living like that, I’m having the best time of my life. My three kids are grown, grandkids are doing well. So why all the sadness? It life roll with the punches good and bad.
This movie disappointed because it seemed unequal, Rhoda was a supporting player to Mary, it also made it clear that they hadn’t been connected all those years which was sad and not what I expected
Lol, Rhoda trying to get the operator to put her through to Mary.. I guess Mary and Rhoda didn't have e-mail yet. Social media still wasn't around yet, either. Just chat groups and IM's. Rhoda has always had a penchant for running like crazy through the streets of NYC to catch up to someone she loves. 🥰 I kinda wished Mary had thrown Rhoda's hat up in the air in the middle of the street. 😉 I love how Mary and Rhoda could always lift eachother up with empathy and dark humor. 💖
Could have been a pilot for a sequal to the origional. Might have been but never picked up. Many shows, the one I know off, was Kook's Tour featuring the three stooges (can be seen right here in RUclips), that got extended and turn into TV specials.
@@johnny-becker I wasn’t trying to start something with you with my reply. There was no “attitude” behind my comment. I was just stating what I have read, recently, and what I read back when this movie first premiered.
I loved the Mary Tyler Moore Show. One of my favorites of all time, and while it's great to see these two together again this TV movie can be summed up in one word...........YAWN.........
Not enough references to the original show Edward Asner easily could have easily been included. THis movie went in a very different direction then original series. Theyre in NY and theres no reference to Rhodas mother or sister or father. Why couldnt it have been in Minneapolis ? Georgette could have been included also. Did Joe (Rhodas husband on "Rhoda") even get mentioned? When did they seperate and why? This could have been great. A very bad lost opportunity and not only wasnt Phylis included she wasnt mentioned either!
@@jamessandy5873 ....you are incorrect. MaryTyler Moore was born December 29, 1936. Mary Richards was born in 1939. Both of those facts are easily verified online.
Wouldn't Rhoda have stayed with her sister when visiting New York? Or is Brenda no longer living in NYC? I don't remember them ever addressing what happened to any other characters from the Mary Tyler Moore Show or Rhoda during this movie
Both are gone now. Two great characters from tv land. I wish they had at least mentioned Phyllis and some of the other people from their MTM shows. And why not? The people that watched this, at the time, wanted to know and it would have been more fulfilling for the audience. And maybe ABC would have picked it up as a series. Lost opportunity.
@@christine3043 if I was with someone that I hadn't seen in twenty years, I would certainly mention people that we would have hung around with. In Mary and Rhoda's situation, especially Phyllis.
This may seem a bit grimm which I do not intend it to be but Mary's husband's death could have gone one of three ways. He faked his death to get out of debts (which rock climbing is a common scenario), he actually died knowing that doing an inexperienced event will likely lead to death or, no twist what-so-ever and he just happened to die and there is no future story in the coming clips.
This feels like a cheap foggy Lifetime movie . Maybe they should have called it "Not Without My Rhoda: The Mary Richards Story". What's with the cocktail music tinkling in the background ?
I think this is when Mary starts losing it and since her husband lost all their money...so she will ask her son, Kenny, for help to swindle Irene Silverman.
This is the best part of a mediocre movie. It was a great scene between 2 old friends. Rhoda looked great! I love Valerie Harper. I watched Mary Tyler Moore for one reason which was Rhoda. They should have had the old cast come back, and be a reunion show.
Metro Promise Cloris would have been a funny cameo given Phyllis’ history with Rhoda but I think this was to just focus on the Mary/Rhoda dynamic and their girls
Rhodas accent is too strong here. Even on her own show set in New York she did not talk like this. Show only lasted 2 years without Rhoda on MTM show. Betty White helped tremendously but witnessing this friendship was special in each epi.
That statement came off incredibly insensitive. You're assuming that all mothers should be in their 20s to have children. Though we would all love to have everything figured out in our 20s it doesn't workout that way for many people. Mary was in her 30s during the original show and wasn't with anyone, so one can assume she was in her 40s when she had her daughter. Which is fine. My own mother had me in her 40s and hearing grandma comments from kids like the one you made was incredibly hurtful to her, and to me as a child. I'm now in my mid 30s and single. I'm pretty sure I don't want kids but if I ever get married, most likely it'll happen when I'm in my 40s or not at all. Maybe I'm not meant for it. But that is also fine. Everything happens when it's supposed to.
The chemistry between these two, was then, and is now, incredible!
Mary and Rhoda are reunited again...R.I.P. Valarie. Rhoda will always be my style guru
The second they meet up again....it's like no time passed. They had the BEST chemistry and friendship.
Can you imagine if Phyllis made an appearance, I think that would have been hilarious 🤣
Decipher Code Indeed! And Sue Ann, and all the gents (minus Ted, unfortunately 😢)
@The mysterious Miss X Mary didn't dump Phyllis. She kept putting up with her the same as she always did.
Oh I loved both their shows. I still watch Mary tyler and Rhoda
Now that the are gone this movie is precious. A gift.
I love how their girls are Meredith (Mare) and Rose (Ro) it is so cute.
I hear ya. My mom was 38. Funny thing. The actress Nanette Fabray who played Mary's mother on the original MTM show is still alive today. She is 92 so she could still play her mother.
Ok. I cried when they saw each other 😪
I was so emotional watching this. Love it.
the two best friends ever and the best shows
I couldn’t get past the first 20 mins of this movie. My question is why does the movies display long suffering of middle age women? I’m middle age and I’m not living like that, I’m having the best time of my life. My three kids are grown, grandkids are doing well. So why all the sadness? It life roll with the punches good and bad.
Great hairstyles and fashions in this one! Rose’s twin puff hairdo and daisy shirt. Mary’s stylish bob and red pullover. Rhoda’s purple outfit.
This movie disappointed because it seemed unequal, Rhoda was a supporting player to Mary, it also made it clear that they hadn’t been connected all those years which was sad and not what I expected
Really glad this movie was made
I liked Mary, but I loved Rhoda. ❤️
brenda must have moved out of the state for Rhoda to stay at a hotel,
I'm Mary and you're Rhoda!
This movie was great loved it and enjoyed the movie
I wished Brenda was on here
Lol, Rhoda trying to get the operator to put her through to Mary.. I guess Mary and Rhoda didn't have e-mail yet. Social media still wasn't around yet, either. Just chat groups and IM's.
Rhoda has always had a penchant for running like crazy through the streets of NYC to catch up to someone she loves. 🥰 I kinda wished Mary had thrown Rhoda's hat up in the air in the middle of the street. 😉
I love how Mary and Rhoda could always lift eachother up with empathy and dark humor. 💖
This was for the 30th anniversary of the Mary TYler Moore Show.
I loved this reunion....It was nice to see those two together again but the script was fare!
Could have been a pilot for a sequal to the origional. Might have been but never picked up. Many shows, the one I know off, was Kook's Tour featuring the three stooges (can be seen right here in RUclips), that got extended and turn into TV specials.
"fare"?? Maybe you mean fair?
@@johnny-becker it actually was a pilot for a sequel series. But it went up against “Monday Night Football” and lost in the ratings.
@@Alanb1980 Well, gee, who didn't that one coming from one end zone to the other?
@@johnny-becker I wasn’t trying to start something with you with my reply. There was no “attitude” behind my comment. I was just stating what I have read, recently, and what I read back when this movie first premiered.
I loved the Mary Tyler Moore Show. One of my favorites of all time, and while it's great to see these two together again this TV movie can be summed up in one word...........YAWN.........
I'm not crying...you are 😭
Not enough references to the original show Edward Asner easily could have easily been included. THis movie went in a very different direction then original series. Theyre in NY and theres no reference to Rhodas mother or sister or father. Why couldnt it have been in Minneapolis ? Georgette could have been included also. Did Joe (Rhodas husband on "Rhoda") even get mentioned? When did they seperate and why? This could have been great. A very bad lost opportunity and not only wasnt Phylis included she wasnt mentioned either!
Mary Richards was three years younger then the real Mary. MTM was born in 1936. Mary Richards was born in 1939.
dav1237: Wrong. 1937 and 2 years younger.
@@jamessandy5873 ....you are incorrect. MaryTyler Moore was born December 29, 1936. Mary Richards was born in 1939. Both of those facts are easily verified online.
Wouldn't Rhoda have stayed with her sister when visiting New York? Or is Brenda no longer living in NYC? I don't remember them ever addressing what happened to any other characters from the Mary Tyler Moore Show or Rhoda during this movie
I made up my own story for Brenda. Married, 2 kids. And does voice acting work.
Why address people whom they likely haven’t seen for 20 years?
it just doesn't work very dull
Two great women!
I know my grandma miss Mary and Roda 💜👍
Rhoda got Mary's address from Mary's MOTHER? And where does SHE live, the Museum of Natural History?
Both are gone now. Two great characters from tv land. I wish they had at least mentioned Phyllis and some of the other people from their MTM shows. And why not? The people that watched this, at the time, wanted to know and it would have been more fulfilling for the audience. And maybe ABC would have picked it up as a series. Lost opportunity.
Why would they mention people with whom they worked 20 years ago? People move on and fall out of touch.
@@christine3043 if I was with someone that I hadn't seen in twenty years, I would certainly mention people that we would have hung around with. In Mary and Rhoda's situation, especially Phyllis.
when this movie was made Mary was only 60 years old.
environment2013 she looks older at 60 than jane Fonda looks at 82 or whatever she is
Well, she went to Illinois and married Homer Simpson!
Wow, I didn't know Mary and Rhoda made a movie,yea yea😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🌺🌺🌺💐💐🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Mary and Rhoda
She was probably around 40 when she had her daughter. She was 37 when she lost her job at WJM.
How does anyone know this. All I knew was there was MTM and then Rhoda show and now I hear their lives went on?
Both are gone now. RIP Mary and Valerie.. Loved the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Was Not the Same after Rhoda left the Show.
Fair enough, but as someone whose mother had me when she was 40, I tend to judge these things from my own perspective too often.
Cronin is my last name! Wow.
Mary was still single in her 30s when she worked for WJM.
This may seem a bit grimm which I do not intend it to be but Mary's husband's death could have gone one of three ways. He faked his death to get out of debts (which rock climbing is a common scenario), he actually died knowing that doing an inexperienced event will likely lead to death or, no twist what-so-ever and he just happened to die and there is no future story in the coming clips.
That's too bad. MTM reunion on Katie today ay 4:00!
I did think about that! Okay, I can accept this!
I thought Rhodas hubby was Joe who is Sean Pierre
Rhoda and Joe divorced early on. Jean Pierre was her second husband.
That kinda of does make sense.
You're welcome :)
I got your address from your mother? Mary’s mother must be 110 years old! 🙄
This feels like a cheap foggy Lifetime movie . Maybe they should have called it "Not Without My Rhoda: The Mary Richards Story". What's with the cocktail music tinkling in the background ?
It's great seeing them together after all those years, and they both have awesome chemistry together. But this made for TV movie was awful/boring..
Not good at all and nothing like what pulled those into these actors
I think this is when Mary starts losing it and since her husband lost all their money...so she will ask her son, Kenny, for help to swindle Irene Silverman.
Hahahaha! She was so good in that movie. It was hard to believe it was Mare! (said in Rhoda's voice)
😆
no she could not she has VERY bad medical issues!
This is the best part of a mediocre movie. It was a great scene between 2 old friends. Rhoda looked great! I love Valerie Harper. I watched Mary Tyler Moore for one reason which was Rhoda. They should have had the old cast come back, and be a reunion show.
satimaxe My favorite character on the Mary Tyler Moore Show was Lou Grant.
+Jiltedin2007 I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't mention Brenda :(
sammy styre
Brenda was Rhoda's Sister?
+Jiltedin2007 Rhoda's younger sister, yes.
I hope Brenda ended up having a long and happy marriage to Benny Goodwin!
Not that bad actually, but it would've been great to have Phyllis show up at least for a few minutes
Metro Promise Cloris would have been a funny cameo given Phyllis’ history with Rhoda but I think this was to just focus on the Mary/Rhoda dynamic and their girls
Rhodas accent is too strong here. Even on her own show set in New York she did not talk like this. Show only lasted 2 years without Rhoda on MTM show. Betty White helped tremendously but witnessing this friendship was special in each epi.
If Mary is in her 60's Shouldn't her daughter be around 40? And maybe this little girl could be her.....grandaughter?
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As I recall, she was 30 and single when she started at WJM.
She probably had her daughter when she was 40.
That statement came off incredibly insensitive. You're assuming that all mothers should be in their 20s to have children. Though we would all love to have everything figured out in our 20s it doesn't workout that way for many people. Mary was in her 30s during the original show and wasn't with anyone, so one can assume she was in her 40s when she had her daughter. Which is fine. My own mother had me in her 40s and hearing grandma comments from kids like the one you made was incredibly hurtful to her, and to me as a child. I'm now in my mid 30s and single. I'm pretty sure I don't want kids but if I ever get married, most likely it'll happen when I'm in my 40s or not at all. Maybe I'm not meant for it. But that is also fine. Everything happens when it's supposed to.
@@Kay2be2mr Your name might be - Karen.