The Re-written Sexist SAGE Scene from "High Guardian Spice" with Sound!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- (Sounds best with headphones) Yet again, this is written by the lovely JamiedeJonge. In part from the enthusiasm from my last piece, I was inspired to do this one. I even did a little research and - between the solemnity of the scene and watching part of the episode for this - I hope the voices sound a bit more grounded than my last High Guardian Project.
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Huh? A scene actually building up a foundation for Snap's crush on Sage, and a moment when Sage didn't act like she was better than everyone else?
Will wonders never cease?
Now THIS is a scene that is written by normal SANE people who should write stuff, rather than people who should be locked up in an asylum.
An asylum for a century the original creator’s (as in whoever made the show misandry to begin with not the creator since they got their childhood project turned to memebable hot garbage
The original writers could've added that women are always emotional
More like locked in an aslume
Why are they bad at writing? Are they stupid? Is there a lore reason?
And you made Sage not rant or turn snap on him just to have Snap SNAP back. because, that would make her apology more forced and unearned. But, In all honesty, Sage doesn't deserve to be the love interest for Snapdragon
1:23 More like "There, fixed your stupid script."
I would watch the show if it was like this
This is honestly what I wanted.
Coming from a writer’s point of view this was STELLAR!
The emotions, the dialogue, the reactions were so natural. It actually felt like a sane conversation between two people instead of whatever the original was. It leaves the audience wanting to know more about these two and gives them a peek into both of these characters’ personalities.
KUDOS 💕💕
Just in case you didn't know this person didn't write this, they're just dubbing over a video made by another person. Still great voice acting tho!
"How Many guys did you have this exact conversation with?" That question right there changed the entire conversation because it gave sage a moment to think back on what she is talking about with snapdragon.
My favorite line is where she corrects herself with the “girl talk” thing.
aww, I'm glad you appreciated that detail :3
this is what people want
and to be honest this is better than the Crunchyroll official version 😎
It sucks that this message conflicts with the fact that Snap is trans. Nothing inherently wrong with trans, not in the slightest, but this plot point is emphasized by Snap’s identity as a guy who is being assumed to be masculin, when the canon is that she’s not.
This was so well done in the animatic and the storytelling. It’s engaging and powerful.
Perhaps the story could have set up and internal conflict for Snap? They could have been having this struggle where they are trying to figure out whether they should become trans to fit in more as a girl or to stay as themselves and decide that it is ok for a man to more feminine at times. It could give a more nuanced perspective than what was given in the show.
@@masterb2130 I think that's actually a really good idea
ngl, I feel like this scene would work more with Aster or one of the other guys
There is something wrong with it though...
I'd say there's room for doubt when it comes to that "fact". Yes, a "writer" said Snapdragon was. Yet in the 12 episodes the show did go on for, and in the instances where they could've confirmed it, Snap says otherwise. An example is when Caraway implies that he could give Snap the sex change potion, a potion that we know has no downsides and is temporary, yet Snapdragon says no. At best, it comes across as the writers words vs what we actually see on screen, at worst, it comes across as queerbaiting. Like Sage and Rosemary's "will they, won't they".
Nothing wrong if Snap really is, but when the words of the "writer" conflict with what we see on screen, I start to doubt their words.
i would def watch the show if it was *this* good!
this is so underrated !!
Oh wait it’s been posted an hour ago
good work anyway
Very nice, just a minor nitpick, "internalize" means "make attitudes or behavior part of one's nature by learning or unconscious assimilation". Basically, it means to make someone else's behavior your own after being close to them for so long. It doesn't apply to this context, a better term would just be "hide" or "hide away".
Can he not internalize the assumption made by Sage? In that sense, I'm pretty sure the word makes sense, but it might not have been used properly in the sentence itself
@@alexbaribeault In the sentence, he said "internalize our emotions". Maybe it wouldn't be wrong in the context you give, but I find it a bit of a stretch to try and change the context when you could just change the word. What you say is true though.
Or ‘‘bottle up’’?
Honestly, I love this scene. You have redeemed sage for me in this conversation.
yay! Thank you, I'm glad to hear it :)
this is too good, i felt genuine emotion in both the writing and voice acting in this scene, great work!! ^ ^
you should get hired to remake that entire show, your vids are so good dude!
I love the redoing of this scene. It shows Snapdragon being genuine to Sage, and Sage...well...not going on an ego-driven, sexist rant about how girls have superior friendships than boys have, and it does show a more tame thing where she thought Snapdragon wouldn't be interested because he's a boy and thought the talk is too 'girly', but the scene took a turn for a more wholesome turn with them reconciling. However, there's one problem that lies outward and not with your well put together rewritten scene.
This scene is undercut because Snapdragon became trans. There is nothing wrong about being transgender itself, I need to clarify this since each time I criticize this whole ideal of Snapdragon's character, people label me as a phobe and I'm getting sick and tired of it, if your an adult, and you feel like you could be better put in the opposite sexes body and take surgery and medication to become close to that opposite sex, that's perfectly fine. It's YOUR choice to make. But anyways, the original scene had Sage say the sexist statement of how guys can never have the friendship girls have, as it's much better. And by making Snapdragon trans, she's basically proven right. It also proves that Snapdragon and her can't be friends, nor a couple, because being a guy, Snapdragon is below Sage.
If Snapdragon accepted that boys can be masculine without being like his siblings or father, because that's where his fears and trauma was held, not being disgusted about being a boy(Which I believe is a retcon by the writers to basically make him the same as his voice actor, which is trans), I would be happy and that would do his character justice. Heck I would even be happy if he used crossdressing as a coping mechanism, Chihiro Fujisaki did that from Danganronpa and I loved that character.
However, these are ideas that you can take in consideration if the writing team was actually talented, and not hired to either push political messaging, LGBT propaganda, and feminist-accepted sexism. And the lead writer, who is known for posting messages like hashtag kill all men, or moral of the story I hate men, on Twitter. AND the show's actual creator, who has a character who basically is his own self insert(Professor Caraway. Proof: Same hair, same eye color, same pale skin, same identity, and being the voice actor) telling Snapdragon about transition magic to solve his emotional turmoil.
Keep in mind, this isn't a criticism on you or your redoing of the scene, which was extremely well done, but it's a criticism of the show who basically took a character that was being developed extremely well, then basically cracking him down a peg to paint him as a transgender girl. I would like to see a reply from you, to hear your thoughts and opinions of the scene and how it made you feel personally about the direction Snapdragon was taken into.
Hello! Just a disclaimer, I hope you can understand I can't reply to every comment. But I saw your request and thought I'd share a bit:
A part of me wonders if the writing team was going the direction of writing Snapdragon as genderfluid but more in tune with their feminine side, or as a trans woman. Either way, it is unfortunate that it would validate Sage's sexist rant. I wish the team had addressed her viewpoint and proven it wrong. They do, in fact (although I think it's unintentional) in the episode just prior to this Obstacle-Course-Episode.
In the prior episode, Sage tried to find an empty room to have a cry in, only to come across the room two other boys have also come to cry - Slime Boy to practice a cry-song, and Parnelle to (for untold reasons) also have a cry. This scene alone shows a tender side to boys in the cast, and yet the very next episode Sage claims guys can't be in tune with their feelings or have a heart to heart like girls. Yet she herself witnessed they can! Anyhow, I'm going in circles now. But yeah, I agree the show dropped that ball there.
@@QuetzalYVerde so the show is just written badly then 🥴🥴🥴
To be honest, I don't even think all that sexism is accidental, considerating how the writers cast is based in crazy feminists who go on Twitter spreading hate speech, I can totally see this being absolute intentional. The purpose of the series was to say that no man is redeemable and that if you are a man, you are either a misogynist douche bag or a trans woman waiting to come out.
I invite everyone to think about it straightly, no boy besides Snapdragon has a likeable personality, and the series is constantly bragging about how women are superior to men in every aspect, and the fact Snapdragon will be presented as a trans girl in an obvious cookie cut plot convenience, specially since he never presented gender dysphoria before as he was always told he was girly and wasn't a real man, just proves the writers mysandric point of men being all assholes.
Why does everyone keep "clarifying" that being trans is ok? It's not, stop validating these peoples' feelings they don't deserve it.
@@-originalLemon-We get killed a lot by people with thoughts like you. Why wouldn't we deserve it? 🙂
This is so underrated...
voice acting is fire
Thank you! That means a lot 💚
I'm working on my own remake of High Guardian Spice, and I might write the characters similar to how you've portrayed them.
This is what the show should be like
Isn't the funny part about this though that Sage was right? Not that I'm saying she is actually correct with her biases, but that the lashing Snap gives her - in the show and in this rewrite - is frankly meaningless because Snap is a Transgender? Sage is essentially vindicated because all of the male students presented in the show would be described accurately by what she said and seeing as now Snap is a transwoman the only male student that was in touch with their feelings is also now a woman instead. Like this scene just seems silly in retrospect.
Agreed, I wish there was more representation of cis men not just being strong and tough cause a guy has to be. Men have feelings too. But at least this version is better then the original lol
I agree but I'm gonna correct you in your sentence .. she was a woman before and now she didnt become one
Well biologically snap is a guy so
@@Yeahimamusicalfan she is a woman cry about it and continue with your elementary school biology lessons
@@Yeahimamusicalfan she is a woman cry about it and continue with your elementary school biology lessons
as a person who writes for fun (nothing published, i hope to one day have a work out here) this is fire
Honestly, when i read that "off a FUCKING CLIFF!" I imagined Sage yelling it
OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS SO MUCH genuinely made me tear up a little in the end
I love it! T.T
This scene was actually good, just as a scene. Good work.
And yet, the scene is still undermined by the fact that Snapdragon is Trans.
Just like BlackLightJack said in his review, the problem is that Snap is RIGHT about us guys, however, because of the fact that Snap is a Trans (girl in a guy's body) then Sage's Clearly Sexist comment is also to be treated as "True" despite she was outright told WHY she was wrong in the first place.
Now before I start going on a rant... Nice job with the scene and animatic. Really. Sigh... Just know what I'm about to say next has nothing to do with you or your actions. Kay? Thank you. *Deep breath*
Seriously, want to know what happened the last time Feminists told guys that they need to be "more open and honest with their feelings"? I believe the statement "Boohoo male tears" was invented. The Hashtag MeToo movement was SUPPOSED to be about encouraging victims to speak up, but the moment that it was discovered that the Majority of those who finally started speaking up were men, what happened? Oh right, "Shut up, it's not about you."
Gawd, I am so sick of the Double Standards that come from a bunch of Sexist Girls think so poorly of guys that we become nothing but Second Class citizens to them while they whine about their own damn papercuts or worse things that NEVER happened to them in the first place. GAHHHHHHH!!!....
Thank you. I needed that.
Thank you for your reply, I get the impression you put some time and thought in to it, and I appreciate seeing that. I think one of many reasons I resonnate with Snap is:
Despite being born female and there existing the sterotype that women are more in tune with their emotions etc, I still feel like I've so often been told growing up that I need to hide my emotions. That showing emotions makes you too vulnerable, or that people won't take you seriously.
If I felt that way being seen and rasied as a woman, I can only imagine how much more pressure must exist for men to bottle up their feelings. I empathized with Snap in this scene and hope I did the scene justice
I thought of the same thing
I'm tired of fake gender equality by feminists. They are just misandrists who don't care about men's rights and feelings
This just goes to show that writing makes or breaks a show
Hgs has so much potential but is so hamstrung by how few writers with good craft were in the writing room
Great reanimated scene
THIS! This right here ☝🏼👏
Man, I'm tempted to color this
This is good but I think the only way to fix Sage’s character is to throw away the whole character and start all over.
(I feel like neither genders should be thrown to super hell (such as the blonde guy and Sage) just for not understand the opposite gender enough and can learn better. Especially Sage.
This is SO well-written!
Thank you! Credit goes to the artist, Jamie de Jonge. I agree ;)
You made her sooo much likeable here, THANK YOU.
Happy
This is the way
this scene (the original one) made me almost puke when I first watched it, I have a little teen brother that feels like snapdragon and I'd be outraged if some feminazi chick just walks up to him and says unsensitive things like those, or tells him to be gay or trans just because he likes more feminine stuff
Someone needs to rewrite this entire show, honestly.
Omg😁
I LIKE THIS
This couple deserves better
idk why they deleted the scene that would probably make the whole series less shitty
we needed this and they ruined it 😭😭😭
Perhaps the title of the video was unclear, but in the description I give credit to Jamie de Jonge who wrote this scene as a fan-rewrite ;)
Hate the show. LOVE this.
now this is very anime ish
THIS is what i'd watch instead of high guardian spice
my only nit pick is that Sage needs a more slightly higher pitch, to differentiate herself from Snap. no offense but they sound too similar. Do you mind if I take your Snap take and add my own Sage impression…?
I felt like doing both at the time, but yeah that does lend to them sounding a bit similar in the end :p So long as you properly credit me and the original video, sure, go for it.
You can definitely tell that this re-written scene wasn't written by someone who started the "Kill All Men" hashtag. And no, I'm not kidding, the woman who started that hashtag is the one who originally wrote this episode.
I heard about that, it's pretty crazy >
@@QuetzalYVerde No kidding.
I can't fathom the reason, but even this version feels off. Maybe the material's the causative, I dunno.
women ☕
Snap us still a guy