2024 Preakness Stakes Top 5 - Derby winner Mystik Dan? Baffert's fresh Muth? - Pres by 1/ST Grand 3

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @dkexp725
    @dkexp725 7 месяцев назад +1

    Does anyone know how to get DRF and/or Equibase pps for last 5 years Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont. I need for a project. They don’t seem to have archives. 😢

  • @ChannelPerl
    @ChannelPerl 7 месяцев назад +6

    The Grade 2 Preakness Stakes.

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      because there are only 2 horse WAS

  • @fredk9999
    @fredk9999 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you. Always listen to JK. Where is your “line of shirts?”

  • @ColinMcCarter
    @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад +2

    Mugatu.............should be pulling Budweiser Beer Wagon
    Uncle Heavy ................Ozempic needed
    Catching Freedom..................could close down speed duel
    Muth .............speed on lead
    Mystic Dan ......................Dan's The Man
    Seize the Grey................next appearance Carnival Merry Go Round
    Just Steel..................could if'n the rest fall down
    Tuscan Gold..........needed "L" to win one
    Imagination ............................would need head start
    Pick: Catch---Dan---Muth

  • @Jason-ol1ty
    @Jason-ol1ty 7 месяцев назад +2

    Which Baffert horse will be given the lead and which horse will be the one hanging back? Watch the 2015 Preakness again from the break and tell me that Dortmund was ridden with the intention of winning even though we all know AP was the best horse of the crop anyway. And the horse that loses rating is the one you have to bet next time. We've seen this with Baffert and the other big trainers when they have more than one speed horse in the race. Chad Brown - Technical Analysis vs In Italian in the 2022 Diana comes to mind.

    • @generoberts9151
      @generoberts9151 7 месяцев назад

      Yes watch Baffert horses. I won a ton Betting Real Quiet when everyone was on Indian Charlie.

  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад +6

    Just Steel could come back with a Bravazo like performance

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      Aliens could invade too

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад

      @@ColinMcCarter There's only 9 horses in the race. Do a little research for yourself. There were horses far less regarded than Just Steel to place and show in the Preakness

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      @@bnegs521 you'll be lucky if he doesnt fall down

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад

      @user-pg9yj4be6x you are low level knowledge

  • @johnrodonis4186
    @johnrodonis4186 7 месяцев назад +1

    Oaklawn horses LOVE Pimlico. A replay of the Arkansas Derby is a distinct possibility. One thing's for sure... Just Steel will outrun Seize the Grey. Lucas horses can't put two good races together anymore. So it;'s "in" for Just Steel and "out" for Seize the Grey. Spoiler: Uncle Hevvy. Good Luck.

  • @fredk9999
    @fredk9999 7 месяцев назад +2

    Can Bob Baffert-trained horses run in NY?

  • @larrygrasso6032
    @larrygrasso6032 7 месяцев назад +1

    MUTH !!!

  • @lou__13
    @lou__13 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not a fan of favorites so ill be betting Imagination to go wire to wire. Pimlico usually always favors good speed horses.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Can't imagine muth will be too far back and thought Imag had no excuse in a slow SA Derby but we shall see.

  • @AnthonyCharlino
    @AnthonyCharlino 7 месяцев назад +2

    JK is all over this.....But Muth also eye-balled the pre-derby favorite Timerlake and sent him back HOME. I really do not care about his odds....I got 3-1 in Futures #2 and as a saver took Imagination at 24-1 for a couple sheckles.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      That's a good position.

    • @rick-ug3rd
      @rick-ug3rd 7 месяцев назад

      i had the all others bet in the preakness future at 21to1. the only reason i made that bet was because i thought mcpeek would win the oaks with thorpedo anna and wheel her back in the preakness. then my plan was ruined when mystik dan won the derby. he cant have his other horse beat his derby winner in the preakness.i have no doubt she is better than these horses in the preakness.

  • @stephenmolaro2031
    @stephenmolaro2031 7 месяцев назад

    Cashed a nice bet in the derby with him have to go with him again! Mystic Dan!!! And especially since I don't bet Bob baffert! When he wins I lose!

  • @maddogmattas8648
    @maddogmattas8648 7 месяцев назад

    Seize the gray has the breeding to get it done. , Baffert does good at Monmouth seems to be close to California tracks surface.., I wish there were more derby contenders in this race. , gotta root for the derby winner. Hopefully the Mcpeek barn has a repeat weekend.

  • @jeffbauer1609
    @jeffbauer1609 7 месяцев назад +1

    Locked in Muth at 19-1 in the first pool when the “akshully 5/2 is a good price on Nysos” people were talking.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha good price!

    • @susanking9033
      @susanking9033 7 месяцев назад

      Lost your money. He's out

  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад +3

    If Mystic Dan comes back and wins yall gonna have flashbacks to Real Quiet, Charasmatic and War Emblem.

    • @sancho8441
      @sancho8441 7 месяцев назад

      No we won't.

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад

      @@sancho8441 not you your knowledge doesn't allow it

    • @sancho8441
      @sancho8441 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@bnegs521ur probably not old enough to have even seen 1 of them run. But if it makes u feel better, u can believe in miracles.

  • @ritasics1903
    @ritasics1903 7 месяцев назад +1

    WHAT ABOUT ENCINO?

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      He's injured and won't be seen until later in the year

  • @billamsdell6471
    @billamsdell6471 7 месяцев назад +1

    Should Baffert team wins the Preakness do you think they go to Belatoga or a Haskel then Travers play ?

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's a good question. I could see him coming back in 3 weeks if muth is impressive.

  • @robcapalbo3942
    @robcapalbo3942 7 месяцев назад

    Seize the Grey all the way!

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      Confederate's lost the war

  • @RobertoDiaz-nl3kj
    @RobertoDiaz-nl3kj 7 месяцев назад

    None of you guys mentioned the winner in the derby I had to pick the oaks derby double my self thank God I new ken Mcpeak was on a hot streak lately.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      He had a great weekend

  • @generoberts9151
    @generoberts9151 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not even a contest. Muth will dominate this field

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      Mud makes playing field equal

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад +3

    expect leon to pic up 3rd loss if nysos runs in belmont. praying runs in belmont see real fast freight train. choo! choo!

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Has he been back working?

    • @rick-ug3rd
      @rick-ug3rd 7 месяцев назад

      belmont exacta. conquest warrior and thorpedo anna.

  • @austinthomas9068
    @austinthomas9068 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fiercness is going to show up and win

  • @victorfreed5913
    @victorfreed5913 7 месяцев назад +4

    Muth is no myth

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Looks pretty strong in this spot.

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ptfornatale dusted by Fierceness

  • @jamsid33
    @jamsid33 7 месяцев назад +2

    Mystic Dan needs a rest, he should wait for the Belmont Stakes at Saratoga

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds very likely to run

  • @generoberts9151
    @generoberts9151 7 месяцев назад +1

    Baffert has had a lot of success at Pimlico. Pay attention to his entries

  • @rick-ug3rd
    @rick-ug3rd 7 месяцев назад

    better watch out for Conquest Warrior if he runs. Was entered in the Peter Pan Saturday but wont run. my guess is that the main goal for him is the belmont and travers. owned by the richest man in horse racing who has his summer mansion in saratoga.

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      thinking his next start will be Delta Downs

    • @rick-ug3rd
      @rick-ug3rd 7 месяцев назад

      @@ColinMcCarter happens all the time. a $1.1 million purchase that ran 4th in a g1 last out is shipped to delta downs to run. i would be willing to bet that his next start will be the belmont stakes where he will be about 5to1 ml

  • @LABoyko
    @LABoyko 7 месяцев назад +7

    Great spot for Fierceness to pull a Louis Quatorze and smoke the Preakness field two weeks after finishing up the track in the KYD, but whatever.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Ha, no chance but I take your point

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 7 месяцев назад

      If fierceness runs he will wire the preakness feild

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 7 месяцев назад +1

      Mystic Dan will not win preakness

    • @bobgreenfield9158
      @bobgreenfield9158 7 месяцев назад

      What happened to
      Fierceness? A disappointment
      in the Kentucky Derby.
      15th place! Sick! Is he
      hurt! Does he have a
      muscle bruise?

    • @sancho8441
      @sancho8441 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@bobgreenfield9158alot of good horses run like shit after they win the derby or even during the race and come out and run very well.

  • @patrickpaes6653
    @patrickpaes6653 7 месяцев назад +1

    Tornado Anna

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Let's hope we can avoid tornados :)

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    chad running for second somewhere. consider peter pan stakes. if nysos runs in belmont get another second place finish bye a distance

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think he's worked

  • @theanonymouscomic8106
    @theanonymouscomic8106 7 месяцев назад +1

    People. Running any grade one horse back in 2 weeks is crazy. You people don’t understand. Can you run and win ? Yes. That’s not the point

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      most horsemen seem to agree with you

    • @theanonymouscomic8106
      @theanonymouscomic8106 7 месяцев назад

      @@ptfornatale yes. Only run if the horse didn’t run at all. Like quit. You can make a case to run because it is an easy grade 1 chance. But you’re gambling

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад +2

    mystic dan might not run in preakness sounds like pass cause baffert bringing muth too preakness..think run torpedo Ann in preaknes.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Possible but KM has made it sound very likely he's running the last few days

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    doubt make nysos favorite morning line odds at 2/1.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      You keep mentioning nysos. He isn't currently in training that I can see.

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    nysos seems much faster than American Pharoah. from what i seen

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад

      AP faster on all the known figures

  • @CarlCarlson-k5p
    @CarlCarlson-k5p 7 месяцев назад +1

    And I said that b4 the k.d.

  • @williamworth208
    @williamworth208 7 месяцев назад

    Catching Feedom is possible. Love hin here. He can run like a P horse.

  • @craftypromise7814
    @craftypromise7814 7 месяцев назад

    I think mystik Dan will run , and take it wire to wire.

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад +1

    easy win runs un belmont. blow doors off Sierra Leon.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Not sure what horse you mean.

    • @albertcuttino8731
      @albertcuttino8731 7 месяцев назад

      Nobody beating Chad brown horse no more this year

  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 7 месяцев назад +1

    Tabasco Cat had nothing for the Derby, came back and won the Preakness and Belmont

    • @rick-ug3rd
      @rick-ug3rd 7 месяцев назад +1

      same with hansel

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    horse been running against 20!/1 longshots got beat.2.3 million breed. baffert needs to bring justice to this game thats out of whack. his vet advice did this not baffert, not a veterinarian. make that clear. now time to beat 2nd tier horses ran in derby.

  • @georgepimentel3072
    @georgepimentel3072 7 месяцев назад

    HE BEAT MYSTIK DAN BECAUSE LIKE COACH WAYNE LUKAS SAID "WE CAN'T WIN ALL THE PREP RACES. THE KENTUCKY DERBY IS THE BULL'S EYE."
    SO DAN WAS OUT FOR A WALK IN THE PARK NOT SERIOUS RACING SAVING HIS MOJO FOR THE DERBY.

  • @CarlCarlson-k5p
    @CarlCarlson-k5p 7 месяцев назад

    Just like I said b4. Don't have 2 watch this 2 know who j.k. gonna pick.he likes horse with good figures close 2 the lead. That's why he picked fierceness in k.d
    But j.k. is good and probably right this time. I hope deterministic does not win Peter pan so u get a better price in belmont when he absolutely crushes all.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think Deterministic is an interesting bounce back candidate

    • @CarlCarlson-k5p
      @CarlCarlson-k5p 7 месяцев назад

      @ptfornatale and remember he could of got in derby. He the trainer didn't even want 2 run him in wood. Trainer said he just wanted 2 get more experience incase they go 2 derby.

  • @billbriscoe9414
    @billbriscoe9414 7 месяцев назад

    You guys Crack me up. Stating that Muth will win because he beat Mystic Dan in the Arkansas Deny? Really? First off, Muth wouldn't have beat Sierra Leone, or Forever Young in the derby and Dan is peaking right now. Muth in not sure about but muth has not ran at the distance Dan has. Just something to think about. It's not Muth I'm worried about in the preakness BTW. And yes, I hit many bets in the derby thanks to Dan, including the Trifecta.

    • @generoberts9151
      @generoberts9151 7 месяцев назад +1

      For one none of three horses you mentioned are running and Mystic Dan who lost to Muth is on two weeks rest. Better include this horse. Arkansas and Blue Grass put out the best triple crown horses this year.

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад +1

    horse is too slow in pace to close on.l nysos. nysos close like freight train on a very fast pace. did on 121 and change in past. just to fast for leon

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      not a crazy thought

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад +2

    wish sierra leon in preaknes. ducking muth too. hope baffrrt runs nysos in belmont again sierra leon hear shooting to run in belmont. take nysos to handily beat sierra leon.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      wouldn't call it ducking -- was never going to run back in two weeks unless he won

  • @DiscipleofHim
    @DiscipleofHim 7 месяцев назад

    This guy beats around the bush but never says his straight out picks with reasoning. I will. I will bet big money on 4/ 3-5-7-8-9 in a Super. Thats my bet . Big Money.

  • @Angel-AbC9
    @Angel-AbC9 7 месяцев назад +2

    Any baffwrt horse wins

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      He wins plenty of races

  • @albertcuttino8731
    @albertcuttino8731 7 месяцев назад

    You looking at race muth won but you not paying attention Dan had just beat just steal buy 8 or 10 an Brian never pull the whip that third place got him 18 to 1 he will beat muth in the stretch

  • @randycoger2525
    @randycoger2525 7 месяцев назад

    JK's stock has dropped in the past few weeks. Fiercness??? Really????

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      I said 1000 times he'd win impressively or be nowhere. It was the latter.

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    very athelic horse like secretatariat. doubt him. !

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      not sure what you mean

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    youyou can fix things. cant win it with bsffert horse in the race. Fact!

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'd say it's a fact that lots of other trainers win races that baffert is in.

  • @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z
    @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z 7 месяцев назад

    Get a haircut....please.

  • @timwalsh8973
    @timwalsh8973 7 месяцев назад

    muth beat mystic dan easily drawing away. leon wants no part of muth. pass preakness

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      He definitely has him on form

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      maybe dan wasnt trying quite so much

  • @michaelantoniotti2738
    @michaelantoniotti2738 7 месяцев назад

    Muth. Period. Now your turn to listen to us

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      He makes a whole lot of sense for sure

  • @dennyzeecko5183
    @dennyzeecko5183 7 месяцев назад

    Mystik Dan won't hit the Board in the Preakness. Just Steel will even beat him.

    • @ptfornatale
      @ptfornatale 7 месяцев назад +1

      Historically the horses coming back in two weeks do well but we shall see. Muth is definitely faster.

    • @ColinMcCarter
      @ColinMcCarter 7 месяцев назад

      just steel will most likely go down

    • @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z
      @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z 7 месяцев назад

      den, be careful. He will be in the board.

    • @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z
      @AgustinDeJesusTorres-v1z 7 месяцев назад

      @@ptfornatale or, fastest don't mean win.

    • @chrischester7465
      @chrischester7465 7 месяцев назад

      Hahaha dead wrong