There's apparently a known bug with N'kari and his combat animations causing him to miss more attacks than he should. Not sure if it's been fixed at all, so might explain his jankiness against single entities.
@@vincent78433 N'kari doesn't heal from routing units. It does some passive damage against them, but heal activates only when the unit around N'kari is killed completely.
If N'kari is not shot to pieces, he can be amazing. The trick is run around, casting spells and picking easy fights. If you can keep him alive until the end, you basically win. Slaanesh is meant to be high-risk, high-reward faction and we might finally be there!
Nakari only heals on kills or disintegrate. The Exalted Keeper of Secrets heals on routing and most important, wavering. Nakari for deamons and undead, Keeper for mortals as far as I can tell.
That slaanesh starting army was so filthy, Turin. Your opponent must have taken a hard breath out with a big, "here we go" when he saw all that mobility vs his all infantry start. Beautiful counters.
I wonder if it would be better to have Slaanesh seekers in a column formation, a broader width would have more entities benefiting from the buffed flanking charge bonus.
I just wanted to say I love watching your content. I love warhammer and both you and Indrid feed my addiction. I hope to continue watching and enjoying your content ^^
I wouldn't mind it being as it is if he was cheaper as a character. Being a niche pick against daemons/undead wouldn't be bad if he wasn't the most expensive lord in their roster.
I am so goddamn happy with the new healthy state of Slaanesh! Probs my favourite faction, and they are so fresh to watch right now with the changes bringing new units to the fore!
@@florians9949 what I'm saying is.... you're gonna need a lot of fecundity for all these comically oversized pieces of exploding glass falling from the sky 🤣
@@jonasschiffers2850 uh no Slaanesh would win because being beaten to death in the ensuing melee would be very painful and pain is pleasure and pleasure is what we're here for 👍 it's a win in our hearts
Anyone notice that the lord loss penalty used to stay at -16 throughout the fight but now seems to (correctly) go down to -10? It's not lord routed penalty.
Probably Bull Centaurs, Magma Cannons and good ol Astragor Ironhand. But then again, they aren't performing THAT much better than Vampire Counts, Skaven, Ogres when you look at TotalTavern stats.
While I'm still a bit disappointed in the state of nurgle, it was still nice seeing a slanesh match that actually felt like it required skill to play and to work on its army identity instead of just mass spam of OP units.
Nurgle cannot actually beat Slaanesh in Dom. Under equal circumstances, skill, etc., the simple fact is that Slaanesh can hit any objective defenders with their full force whenever they feel like, slaughter them, and in so doing capture two at any given time with little to no retaliation whatsoever while Nurgle waddles around and gets slaughtered.
@@turinRTS That's awesome that you have done that. I think I've seen a couple of those on your channel. Maybe it is just my struggles with my stinky bois :D
It depends what you consider "fun". The Slaanesh player needs very good micro to win (stay a few seconds too long in a fight and your units disapear) and the nurgle player need very good macro skill to have his units in the good position. It's a very asymmetrical matchup and if one player is better than the other it can be unfuny for the weaker one yes (he is too fast and kill my units one by one ! How can I fight that ???/ His units are too resilient, how my glass canons are supposed to win ???). I guess Slaanesh is a favored because it seems like they have a clear advantage in land battle, but objectives make it playable.
Slaanesh just makes me sad for Bretonnia. They are a cavalry faction that has really good horsemen but *also* infantry that can actually kill the cheap spear infantry that murders Bretonnia as a faction
What I don't like about these videos and warhammer competitive in general is the overrepresentation of meta. In warhammer 3 it feels like 95% of games have a chaos faction on one of the sides. It's so boring to watch. There are so many factions in the warhammer universe and it's always the same 4 names being repeated. To add to this, there are so many subpar heroes and lords. I have NEVER seen any empire player use volkmar, a witch hunter or a battle priest, and only once did I see gelt. The most memorable moments are when the players finally decide to go off meta, like when the lizardmen used that aurora phoenix vs the skaven or how houseplant won the tomb kings vs beastmen. Meta is just too boring, id suggest looking for ways to ban it
Chaos meta? The only chaos factions with a 50%+ win rate in this patch are Beastmen, chaos dwarves and norsca. All of the Daemon factions and warriors of chaos are below 50% win rate. Chaos meta died with the 3.0 patch.
I'm gonna be honest I love the recent slaanesh matches especially after the nerfs and wouldn't mind seeing more of them
There's apparently a known bug with N'kari and his combat animations causing him to miss more attacks than he should. Not sure if it's been fixed at all, so might explain his jankiness against single entities.
it's not also think the healing from routing units is bugged but that might be just belakor
@@vincent78433 N'kari doesn't heal from routing units. It does some passive damage against them, but heal activates only when the unit around N'kari is killed completely.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 yeah ur right i got it mixed up with belakor
They should check at the Cathay sibling too, cause their dragon form is janky as fuck too.
It's his charging spin animation. It triggers too early causing his attack hitbox to fall short.
If N'kari is not shot to pieces, he can be amazing. The trick is run around, casting spells and picking easy fights. If you can keep him alive until the end, you basically win. Slaanesh is meant to be high-risk, high-reward faction and we might finally be there!
Nakari only heals on kills or disintegrate. The Exalted Keeper of Secrets heals on routing and most important, wavering. Nakari for deamons and undead, Keeper for mortals as far as I can tell.
That slaanesh starting army was so filthy, Turin. Your opponent must have taken a hard breath out with a big, "here we go" when he saw all that mobility vs his all infantry start. Beautiful counters.
It's easy to forget just how good the Slaanesh greater daemons are at just barging through formations without any loss of speed.
I love how you hyped nurgle to then go ahead and climb the ladder against all who believed you
Happy Birthday Turin !!!
I wonder if it would be better to have Slaanesh seekers in a column formation, a broader width would have more entities benefiting from the buffed flanking charge bonus.
I just wanted to say I love watching your content. I love warhammer and both you and Indrid feed my addiction. I hope to continue watching and enjoying your content ^^
Do you think N'Kari's passive should be changed to shattering or dying units healing him?
Hell yeah, so it can be used with the mortal unit. Or just buff him to heal 0.8 - 1.0% per second instead
nah, N'kari's heal is awesome and can come in clutch, just gotta focus down single entities or lower model units with his huge weapon strength
I wouldn't mind it being as it is if he was cheaper as a character. Being a niche pick against daemons/undead wouldn't be bad if he wasn't the most expensive lord in their roster.
I am so goddamn happy with the new healthy state of Slaanesh! Probs my favourite faction, and they are so fresh to watch right now with the changes bringing new units to the fore!
Give nurgle the blob fight he wants, and an overcasted Slicing Shards would make quick work of it 😂
Fecundity: you’re saying?
@@florians9949 what I'm saying is.... you're gonna need a lot of fecundity for all these comically oversized pieces of exploding glass falling from the sky 🤣
Nurgle would probably still win
@@jonasschiffers2850 uh no Slaanesh would win because being beaten to death in the ensuing melee would be very painful and pain is pleasure and pleasure is what we're here for 👍 it's a win in our hearts
@@drthrax78 That if Slaneesh can get rid of the morrtis engine.
6:45 toads doodoo magic damage
correct
N'kari only heals when nearby units are wiped out completely. Very good against demons and undead
N'kari heals when a unit is wiped out
Anyone notice that the lord loss penalty used to stay at -16 throughout the fight but now seems to (correctly) go down to -10? It's not lord routed penalty.
Poor N'kari always slices the air on the charge. Still bugged
holy moly those daemonettes are pulling some insane weight! awesome game Turin
Gg wp man. Fun match :)
Amazing game, really nice micro!
what overpowered unit do the chaos dwarfs spam now?
Probably Bull Centaurs, Magma Cannons and good ol Astragor Ironhand. But then again, they aren't performing THAT much better than Vampire Counts, Skaven, Ogres when you look at TotalTavern stats.
While I'm still a bit disappointed in the state of nurgle, it was still nice seeing a slanesh match that actually felt like it required skill to play and to work on its army identity instead of just mass spam of OP units.
Loved the match up
Happy Birthday Turin
Turin you found a niche for fiends at all? They're such a cool unit but you never see them
What does he mean good at gooning?
More Slaanesh awesome micro!
Been too long since I have seen pink demon calvary
That matchup does not seem fun for nurgle. Then again almost no matchup feels fun for nurgle!
Nurgle cannot actually beat Slaanesh in Dom. Under equal circumstances, skill, etc., the simple fact is that Slaanesh can hit any objective defenders with their full force whenever they feel like, slaughter them, and in so doing capture two at any given time with little to no retaliation whatsoever while Nurgle waddles around and gets slaughtered.
I've won that MU as Nurgle many times, against equally skilled players. But you are correct, the bigger the map, the more slaanesh favored.
@@turinRTS That's awesome that you have done that. I think I've seen a couple of those on your channel. Maybe it is just my struggles with my stinky bois :D
In almost every videogame ever made, speed ends up being one of the most important attributes. A faction without it is at a massive disadvantage.
It depends what you consider "fun". The Slaanesh player needs very good micro to win (stay a few seconds too long in a fight and your units disapear) and the nurgle player need very good macro skill to have his units in the good position. It's a very asymmetrical matchup and if one player is better than the other it can be unfuny for the weaker one yes (he is too fast and kill my units one by one ! How can I fight that ???/ His units are too resilient, how my glass canons are supposed to win ???).
I guess Slaanesh is a favored because it seems like they have a clear advantage in land battle, but objectives make it playable.
Wouldn't N'kari snipe out the mortis engine in .5 seconds flat?
Well, "mortis engine".
Slaanesh just makes me sad for Bretonnia. They are a cavalry faction that has really good horsemen but *also* infantry that can actually kill the cheap spear infantry that murders Bretonnia as a faction
How are Slaanesh chariots these days? I feel like they'd really shine in this matchup against the nurgle chosen.
The damage they do on a reach charge or a moving infantry unit is hilarious honestly. You'd think you just dropped an overcast spell on them
I think they're pretty good, but they're extremely weak to being stopped up by toads, and every nurgle army takes a ton of toads
dat sweet 4k
bringing 3 chosen is a big risk.
GGWP
Single entity fights are so janky
Nkari is broken rn
What I don't like about these videos and warhammer competitive in general is the overrepresentation of meta. In warhammer 3 it feels like 95% of games have a chaos faction on one of the sides. It's so boring to watch. There are so many factions in the warhammer universe and it's always the same 4 names being repeated. To add to this, there are so many subpar heroes and lords. I have NEVER seen any empire player use volkmar, a witch hunter or a battle priest, and only once did I see gelt. The most memorable moments are when the players finally decide to go off meta, like when the lizardmen used that aurora phoenix vs the skaven or how houseplant won the tomb kings vs beastmen. Meta is just too boring, id suggest looking for ways to ban it
Chaos meta? The only chaos factions with a 50%+ win rate in this patch are Beastmen, chaos dwarves and norsca. All of the Daemon factions and warriors of chaos are below 50% win rate. Chaos meta died with the 3.0 patch.