Train Hauling Military Vehicles DERAILS
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2023
- UPDATE: This is how the railroad reported this accident to the Federal Railroad Administration -
F-SYRFC01-05S DERAILED 12 RAILCARS ON UP MAINTAINED INDUSTRY TRACK AFFECTING THE BNSF MAINLINE, SIDING AND INDUSTRY LEAD, THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE UP DUE TO T307 -SPRING/POWER SWITCH MECHANISM MALFUNCTION. BNSF HAD $80,818 IN TRACK DAMAGES AND UP HAD $140,622 IN TRACK DAMAGES. NO HAZMAT RELEASED.
The United States Armed Forces rely on trains to haul their gear around the country, but this shipment did not go as planned.
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UPDATE: This is how the railroad reported this accident to the Federal Railroad Administration -
F-SYRFC01-05S DERAILED 12 RAILCARS ON UP MAINTAINED INDUSTRY TRACK AFFECTING THE BNSF MAINLINE, SIDING AND INDUSTRY LEAD, THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE UP DUE TO T307 -SPRING/POWER SWITCH MECHANISM MALFUNCTION. BNSF HAD $80,818 IN TRACK DAMAGES AND UP HAD $140,622 IN TRACK DAMAGES. NO HAZMAT RELEASED.
Whoever secured those vehicles did a damn good job
I agree because those Vehicles owned by the US government. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be happy if those Vehicles got damaged in that derailment because I'm pretty sure they're going to need those if a war starts on this country. Especially the one happening overseas.
100% they said “that’s not going anywhere” after strapping them down.
Same thing I was thinking.
OMG CptTankerJoe Haiii! :3
@@daehkcarc6693 hello! What brings you here?
Hats off to the people who did the load securement. From a 30+ year flatbed and lowboy driver, Top notch
Damn we loaded them from the railyard at yermo 30 minutes from irwin. I was one of the uploading supervisors. Seing this shocks me.
Yeah having worked with 86ft AND 120ft JLG BOOMLIFTS you don't cut corners with the chains. You know better than I but it seems to me some of the equipment like a 70 ton M1weights as much as the railcar carrying it.
@@watchinglistening those in the video are normal railcars not for heavy tracked vehicles like the m1 we have the heavy railcars which are slightly shorter and can carry 2 M1 or the recovery M88s
Check and double check all securements and get help if needed.
Pvt: "Sarge, should I put one chain and snubber on each point?" Sarge:"Better use four".
Sir. Yes sir. I will use 6!
Ten a piece it is! 👍🏻
Good thing almost all of the military vehicles are alright since whoever tie them down do a Spectacular job otherwise it could’ve been worse!
If they didn't do it right, the investigation afterwards would find out who screwed up and they would be peeling spuds in Leavenworth until Idaho makes that individual the state bird.
101st ABN vet here, I've done plenty of railhead while I was in and I gotta say, those vehicles are not only very well secured on those railcars, I'm also astonished there is nearly no major damage to them either, after a derailment no less.
This derailment occurred on the Joint Line owned by BNSF and Union Pacific, which is why crews from both railroads showed up at the scene of the derailment. The rail line runs parallel to I-25 between Denver, Colorado and Colorado Springs, Colorado.
I was wondering about that. Thank you.
@@v12productionsaccording to some reports on KOA television in Denver, Colorado on their RUclips channel, BNSF had a derailment of around 30 loaded coal gondola cars on Sunday, 15 October 2023, that collapsed a bridge over I-25 near Pueblo, Colorado. A truck driver from California was killed under the collapsed bridge. The latest KOA video that I looked at within the last 10 minutes or so said that the NTSB's preliminary finding is that a broken rail caused the derailment. Here is the URL for the latest KOA video:
ruclips.net/video/tlbMfJ7H1Pk/видео.html
Hey Thomas, how far down the line would you say the second derailment occured? BNSF claimed they inspected the bridge the day before, but apparently not the rails coming off that bridge.
@@helenshea3446 I looked at Google Maps to see what the distance was between Colorado Springs, Colorado and Pueblo, Colorado via I-25.. Google Maps indicates that it is about 43 miles between the two cities. Pueblo is south of Colorado Springs. The mileage by rail could be little different because we do not know the railroad milepost location of each of the accidents.
ruclips.net/user/shortsO9ufGjbv68A?si=7Hm27T159zdJBLgk
If you are following train derailments. Last weekend a train carrying coal derailed on bridge on I-25 between Colorado Springs and Pueblo about 40 miles south. It was a fatal accident killing a truck driver passing under the bridge. The interstate has been completely closed since the derailment.
Sorry to hear about it. My prayers to the families.
Coal train.... The heaviest frequent cargo. Under such trains the rails have to be heavy duty, or they simply get worn out like tin foil. I remember riding train Between LaHansa and Kansas - tre track over there is scary, due to overload from coal trains. So no wonder.
Is it a little bit suspicious to have two derailments so close together (both in time and space.)
I get a strange tingly feeling that the boogalooboys or some other right wing domestic terror group could be up to something.
As a Railfan and a US army soldier, we rely heavily on these trains, because they can haul various equipment, just like those Bradley fighting vehicles, which I drive. Rail is the most important and reliable military transportation in the modern era. Great video V12!
Rail is the most important and reliable transportation all around.
Ukraine needs the trains! Now Israhell 😢
@richardscathouse we need new president
@@nowthatsfunny1you're funny. The rail companies are privately owned or corporations. My buddy works for rail in Colorado. Short staffed. Bush Jr and Trump did a lot to try and help destroy any and all regulations. The regulations are still dead.
I fucking hated chaining the brads and Abrams
I’m here in Colorado Springs so I’m going to check the site out when I can
Hey stranger
Great stuff sir! I agree they did a great job strapping down the vehicles
It was soldiers that secured it all.
@@JustAGamerA those troops did great 😇
@@arlingtontrains7 railheads miserable. Might as well do it right otherwise you just stay longer.
Don't matter, the railroad will destroy everyone of them anyway.
Charlie, thanks for covering this important story. Great job on putting many sources together! This was not covered as well elsewhere.
Thanks Dan!
It’s confirmed. Whenever you tie down anything. You have to do the most dad thing ever along with saying “Thats not going anywhere if you want it to stay on like this
Huge shout out to those rail head Soldiers! Great job!!!
I saw this train on my way to Denver on Sunday! It was sitting in a siding. Can’t believe it derailed!
They were running a lot of these trains going both north and south last week.
Yea , with help.
@@JZH10000 Sending all of our military vehicles to Ukraine and Israel is a very time consuming job and takes many train fulls.
@@Ada-zn3pw Look up the phrase 'strategic depth' and then keep telling me thats a bad idea
why not? Trains derail every day in the USA
Just a day later a BNSF Coal train derailed in Pueblo Colorado
Military trains can be a little tougher to handle than the run of the mill grain or coal trains but very often it comes down to a crucial part failing on the track. They know by now exactly what failed and if the railroads were negligent in maintenance or some other preventable cause. If they haven't yet answered that question, it is almost certain that there is embarrassing management negligence involved in some part of the incident.
One can never rule out sabotage either, given the current state of affairs, and the nut jobs out there trying to make a statement.
Railroads never say publicly what the cause is. Shit happens, derailments have always happened. They happen a lot less now.
what's so much tougher about handling a military train than a coal or grain train???
Those trains aren’t any more difficult.
@@mikemeadows1007the companies may not say publicly, but that doesn’t mean that it won’t be disclosed in a government report.
all these wrecks and still no upgrade.... way to keep them safe...
The units I was with in Germany during my three tours over there did a lot of rail movement with the DB (Deutsche Bahn) the German national railway. That was a much better way to move all that equipment than driving it.
It's always better to move large numbers of vehicles on rail cars. Imagine putting a battalion's worth of vehicles, not even counting armored and tracked vehicles, just the trucks and humvees and other wheeled vehicles, onto a highway or drive it through a small town in Bavaria on winding alpine roads.
Aside from the instant traffic jams, it's no fun for all the soldiers if they have to drive ten, fifteen or more hours in a convoy posture.
The inconvenience for people (or soldiers in particular) is rather small, most enjoy the change of task / daily routine which comes with a convoy on road. Also such road convoys are valuable training in themself, which an army would want for its troops ... such logistical tasks are a huge part of any military operation and if you want them to go well in war, you simply have to train it in peacetimes instead of giving the job to a private railway service while your troops sleep through it in a bus/plane.
What makes it unwise is the costly wear and tear on the heavy equipment and road infrastructure. Those rubber tracks, military wheels and heavy duty gearboxes aint cheap at all ... grinding them down just for transit is a huge waste of ressources and money. And ofc there is the costly security police/army has to provide in order to prevent accidents.
Its just plain economics which pushes such things on trains.
Can we even go a month without a single train incident?
Not even a day, really 😂
There are about 1000 a year in the USA, though most are minor derailments in yards. With the number of heavy trains that run in the US, there are bound to be some derailments, and being able to go a month without any would be quite spectacular.
Sabotage
@@jimbeam2705 Name a single train derailment (except in an active theatre of war) that was a result of sabotage. Or present any evidence whatsoever that even suggests that this derailment was sabotage.
@@jimbeam2705this isn't 1936 or 1995 blud
I took a video of that train heading southbound outside of Greeley Colorado on the eighth. I was just amazed at the share length and how many military vehicles were on it.
Derailments are happening to often.. this is getting worse very quick..
Is there any evidence that numbers of derailments are increasing? It's more likely that you're just noticing it more, especially now you have the idea that they're increasing, so every derailment you hear about feels like it's proving you right. See "confirmation bias".
Could have something to do with the lack of maintenance on the rails. If I remember right, many of these derailments were because of collapsing bridges.
@@memesbyme710track maintenance has also been reduced on many lines. Unfortunately, until there is a regulation requiring more frequent track inspections and forcing repairs to be done, this will keep happening. 😢
Because US railroads are not government owned nor subsidized!
A railroad network of a big coutnry have to be national, not corporate. Look at Germany, France, Russia, China - all of them have NATIONAL railraod under one "brand", let it be DB, SNCF, RZD, or CN. They all have subsidies and strict maintenance requirements, so they don't cut corners.
@@digimaks so, if any of the brand names in the US railroads say we want to derail a train they can do so.. since they have the money
Despite the derailing, those vehicles are definitely locked down and secured! Nice job to those loaders!
The rail system in America needs an overhaul. We have derailments somewhere in America nearly every day!
Three things majorly changed how we fight wars. Airplanes, tanks, and trains. What may have taken months to move armies and equipment to a front was reduced to weeks if not days. Tanks ended trench warfare. Planes gave almost untouchable (at first) recon abilty and communication ability, that grew into bombers and fighrers and rescue aircraft. Trains transported whole armies to the front. This was done by horse, wagons, and plain marching before that. Imagine Marching a month or more just to get to the fight.
a big coal train did the same thing yesterday
Yep I-25 is still shut down near Pueblo and will probably be closed for a while as all the coal and train debris are cleared and the area inspected.
The folks that secured those vehicles to the flat cars should receive Letters of Commendation. They are obviously secured very well
A letter of commendation for following procedure and doing their job???? No 🙄
@@davidpearson3304 its usually soldiers working 14+ hour days for 2 weeks to get every thing loaded and secured. A little pat on the back goes a long way.
@@JustAGamerA The world is soft enough it doesn't need anymore coddling.
@@Ada-zn3pw get over yourself
they did good, but these are just the pictures they showed you, man. Come on
I remember when I was given a Mobile Artillery unit train from Fort Benning GA, to go thru Cusseta. 28 6-axle flatcars and two tanks per flatcar. At the time, tracks still connected to the South and East. The OIC was a Colonel and when they handed me the consist list, I asked the Colonel if I could have the keys to the lead tank so that when we derailed I could still get back to civilization. He did not take my comment seriously but he also did not think it funny either. The tracks were in rough shape but even worse was that the brush had taken over the tracks. They hadn't seen a train in well over two years so a lot of that fresh orange and yellow paint was scraped off the engines. Today, the NS handles all that traffic and it usually goes to Macon or occasionally to Birmingham and then points beyond. G&W doesn't touch the base even though they still have tracks in there.
This is the last thing I’d expect to derail. These days military trains run at night mostly probably due to safety reasons and preventing stuff like this less often.
And so not to worry the civilians
Not to be seen by satellites.
How would running the train at night prevent the rails from being garbage from no maintenance?
Now 2 derailments happened at Colorado Springs, CO. 1 being the February 5th 1989, and 2 being October 9th 2023!
This past Thursday through Sunday (Oct 12th-16th) I saw these military trains passing by on the UP mainline that runs along Highway 85 from Denver to Cheyenne. They were having trouble with getting a train car's brakes to release on Sunday. I wonder if that car was part of the problem down south earlier that week?
On October 14th I caught one of those military train going south through Greeley
ruclips.net/video/9lOJItGoVeI/видео.htmlfeature=shared
when I was stationed in Germany we railheaded our tracked vehicles to/from training. When we got back to base we were missing 2 MLRSs (1 railcar) They found them a day later. Heads were about to roll...lol
No dash cam? I find that hard to believe
pretty concerning to say the least. At least it wasn't hazardous material.
AGAIN!
Many trains rolling through Atlanta are going in and out of the Anniston Depot, where there is a large facility for rehabbing armored vehicles. ISTR we passed Anniston on the Crescent, and saw a huge amount of armor..
Ukraine needs more so they will be busy sending our equipment overseas
ugh, i need to be careful what i ask for. i literally JUST asked on your heavy loads video about doing a military train video. it's good that nobody was injured, but WOW i wasn't expecting a derailment
Military railloading, I remember it from my time in the Army.
Securing the vehicles is done by soldiers usually from the unit the vehicles are from and they get on the spot training on it.
Since at least the '90s, only vehicles are transported by rail, soldiers and personal gear by bus.
Bonus not shown, two deck autoracks have also been used to transport HUMVEEs, it is a tight fit but works.
Whoever maintained those rails did a damn good job.
Also there is still a lot of miscommunication. Example: there was a Reserve outfit out of Minnesota with 915's that they loaded up for Savannah Illinois and got lost, they found them on a siding in Savannah Georgia. Wasted 2 weeks they had to barrow from other units to do their mission.
I’m not so surprised that happened, especially since Savanna, Illinois is not nearly as large or well known as Savannah, Georgia.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis it was one of the largest Ammo Depots, they found Ammo from the Civil War.
Military train derailment at BNSF Kelker. Fort Carson entry, BNSF owns the tracks. UP Has rights to run on this line but BNSF Controls it. Might want to check out another derailment near Pueblo CO. killing a truck driver, and coal all over I25.
BNSF is wholely owned by Berkshire Hathaway aka Warren Buffett. Buffett also owns over 900,000,000 shares if UNP. Give him a call.
A big thumbs up to you and your video and too our military .👍
congrats on 70k!!
Well done I got married Randall Minnesota right? Next to camp Ripley and I see trains all the time. Go in and out of there with all kinds of good stuff. Great video, young man, my father would be proud.
That was just down the hill from me. Then a few days later, a coal train derailed near pueblo
Those DODX cars are heavy monsters, but I'm still surprized at how destroyed the tracks are under all that
The ringling brothers circus trains were the worst.
Oh got, that must be expensive
I caught a train like that as well being pulled by to Kansas City Southern locomotives, but a derailment on that kind of train is unlikely.
A derailment on _any_ kind of train is unlikely.
Good load securment 👍🏿
America's railroads, coming through for America like pros.
I just saw this train a few days before the derailment when it passed through Salt Lake City, UT.
Oof glad I’m out…can you imagine being on that detail?? I remember being on the rail head at Carson driving brads and humvees onto flatbeds all day in the cold 🤣
I definitely won't miss it💫😱✨🚂
Interesting video. Thanks for posting.
Nice footage of Military trains 🇺🇲,I seen a coal train derailment this morning on CBS News!🛤🚂
"Railroads would be critical for mobilizing the country for war."
Considering the abysmal state of some of the rail lines across the country, I have little faith in that.
I have less faith in our current administration.
Still using MCLB in Yermo as a rail head. Sante Fe and UP do a great job working with our troops doing rail head detail. It happens.
At Ft McCoy in Wisconsin a few of the loading ramps are right by Hwy 21 so you can catch them loading stuff from time to time.
Alright guys update the safety brief. Don’t leave the train in notch 8 with 38 cars
perfect representation of America
0:00 The term "taxpayer" doesn't really make any sense since "paying" is voluntary, and tax extortion is coercive, not voluntary at all. It's also interesting that after their money is forcibly extracted from them, they talk about it like it's still theirs and they have some kind of interest or stake in how it's spent. This equipment wasn't paid for with money that came from the populace anyway - that money is merely used to pay the *interest* on the debt. Instead, these were all paid for with the Federal Reserve Money Printer. They print money (most of it is just made up digitally, then distributed electronically to Federal Reserve Banks) which increases the supply of money and decreases the purchasing power of the money in your accounts. Anyway, a few super rugged military vehicles getting damaged in a train derailment is economically insignificant compared to the amount of similar hardware abandoned by the US in Afghanistan that is now in the hands of terrorists. Interesting spectacle none the less.
This is the same area that had a derailment about 5-6 years ago. Almost the exact same spot.
Sooo Greetings from Poland :)
On the very same track just 2 days ago In Colorado a broken rail caused 30 cars to go off the track and a bridge to collapse over I-25 and a coal car fell on a truck killing the truck driver In Pueblo CO
Rails are like 100 years old.
@@richardscathouse Rails on the mainline are rarely more than 30-40 years.
2:50 DAMN!!!! I'm 28 years old (still considerably young) but that soldier's just a BABY!!! man I feel so damn old looking at him. Especially since I once considered joining...
Coming back from NTC i remember it well 😮
Hell yea, those things weren't going anywhere. Classes are finally paying off.
An escort train preceding all military shipments should be mandatory! This would prevent most military train shipments from derailing by having the escort train preceeding
Cool.
Tucker, is that the CSX line that runs along US-29? I lived in Lilburn until MS-13 took over and we had to run for our lives
Interesting and well done.
1:37 those are nice looking engines.
NO Real Surprise here especially since Military Equipment is Hauled Daily around the US. I bet Norfolk Southern is Breathing Easier after this Event. 🤪👎
Your video documentation was very good. This video will be used like WWll videos of today.
Im impressed with how well the tied town the trucks
What is it with the major rash of derailments????
Are they running to fast, or rails falling apart from missed inspections, what is going on???
Some people have suggested sabotage from the last two in this week alone, Southern Colorado and this one in the video.
You are correct. especially when the orange traitor calls hellballslads very intelligent. An asshole whose doctor signed spurs on this scumbag should have his license canceled.
Fun fact those tanks in the old picture is a M4 Sherman or some type of Sherman. 2:12
I got a cab ride on an army locomotive at fort Bliss x Conrail
I wonder if the DoD can tell the FRA to scram.
Whew! Thought at first might been NS!! 🤣
4:15 That is quite an interesting rail-truck!!😮
I was thinking similarly.
Wow never heard of this story until then
Anyone know anything about the converted railtruck at 4:13. It looks like a museum piece.
We(military) train all over America. Rail is how we get equipment to and fro. Nothing crazy about this other than the derailment itself.
A mess to clean up, but looks like most of the equipment was unscathed and most importantly nobody was hurt.
Tried to comment a note to you on another post that someone Khtrain on FBreels is using your content. YT removed it as violating policy.
There are about three train derailments / day, on average, in the USA.
I hope that gear was recoverable without too much issue
It was all a complete loss. They needed to write off some crap and send it to the scrappers so they just write it all off. This is the government we are talking about.
As a tax payer I'm more concered why another train derailed more then anything. This keeps putting the train Crews lives in danger the more this happens.
But it's OK to endanger the engineer? Honestly, some derailments are inevitable, especially in a country where you have thousands of miles of track in the middle of nowhere.
@@beeble2003 I consider them part of the train crew, but I fixed it to reflect that. 👍
Personally i dont feel like this was no coincedence i feel like we in the united states have individuals in the country that is trying to attack us right here in the US.
Did you also manage to get footage of the coal train that derailed north of pueblo after?
Some of those hummers look brand new... do they still make them?!! and how can I buy one lolol
"It" happens. 😢
Just had a Canadian Pacific lead with a back-to-back KCS unit haul a train full of Hummers and HEMTTs come through my town here a few days ago. The thing I can't get over is that everyone is so concerned about helping other countries but yet not really even caring about their own. Don't get me wrong, I hate that this train crashed but I really wish we'd stop helping other countries and just focus on helping America.
Dude the military industrial complex is a national boondoggle benefitting most Congresspersons bar none. If you really cared to cut the military in half we would have more money for officials but Trump sent all home and the Repukes own the budget now so things will stay broken. Jim Jordan and others are shitty people just like McConnell was . They run things and have for 25 years.
You'd do well to remember that when you let this flavor of stupid pass your lips you're taking a huge steaming crap on the sacrifices of every service member lost in the line of duty overseas.
Yeah we were trying to do that until we had people dumb enough to vote for a president who supports anti-American policies. I mean his policies do nothing but make America weak and yet we still had people so brainwashed and blinded by hate that they'd actually vote against their own country. Pretty unbelievable if you ask me. I don't care how much I hate a person I'm still voting for whoever's policies support Americans.
"Helping other countries" is another formulation of "testing our stuff without endangering our own soldiers". Lots of this is close to its best-before-day anyway. The US gets knowledge back and an easy explanation why taxes are spent on replenishment, which would happen in all cases.
@@Hauketal I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to the boots on the ground type of helping that we're so well-derided for, but I guess not.
and they're still strapped down, SIDEWAYS😭
Damn that's alot of damage
What is the bill on that derailment
"you are still conducting NTC. We dont care that all of our gear is gone"
Good .
According to my RR App its a BNSF LINE ! Start fixing the infrastructure ! Way to many train wrecks this year alone.