The old world and Kings of war.

[@hDansRandomCrud]

I'm a KoW player who used to be a Warhammer Ancients player back in the day.
The only things from the WH rules I really miss are the visuals of the "pile of bodies" and the break/flee/pursue/rally dynamic.
But KoW plays a lot more smoothly and quickly than WH, and as I age I find that more important to me in a rules system.
As you say, you can always buy GW figures to play KoW.... :)

[@Diedonacagedworld]

just bought war in the hold 2 player set ....pretty excited about playing it.. excellent video...

[@Templepaintstudio]

Awesome! That is a really good set!

[@Templepaintstudio]

warchestcreations.com/collections/rank-flank-movement-trays/products/movement-trays-rank-flank-kow-1

[@JevousGaming]

While you're at it, give One Page Rules AoF Regiments a go too. :)

[@Templepaintstudio]

I have been looking at them for awhile. I can't do 3-d printing right now because of my kids but I love the idea.

[@JevousGaming]

@@Templepaintstudio You can use OPR with any models, it’s a great set of rules. Easy to learn even for a wargame novice like myself. Their online warband builder is also second to none. :)

[@puggimer]

Apparently ToW has increased the base sizes of all the models (so 20mm squares are now 25mm, 25mm are 30mm, cav is 30x60, etc).

[@Templepaintstudio]

Of course they would.... Sigh.

[@kivati]

I actually prefer it, and you don't have to rebase, get some movement trays that convert them. Much easier to rank up!

[@Crause88fin]

@@TemplepaintstudioYeah, but of course it's more or less fine (thank god) since 4x3 of 25mm bases still amount to a very decent 100x80mm infantry regiment for Kings of War. 100x75 in reality, sure, but that 5mm can be covered with the regiment base well enough.