Insane Street Running in Michigan City - South Shore Line
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I spent the afternoon in Michigan City driving around getting footage of the South Shore Line. It was a lot of fun getting so close to the but trains running down city streets!
Amazing! it's impressive to see heavy trains in the middle of the street!
Yep, but unfortunately it will be removed in the next few years
@@atomstarfireproductions8695 no! It is so iconic and unique to me! :(
In the same time, it doesn’t look efficient to run in the middle of the street. At least, for a heavy train it doesn’t look to efficient. Maybe for light rail train it isn’t. But I don’t really know.
@@atomstarfireproductions8695 sad, try to write a letter pleading them not to if possible
@@jayasmrmore3687 I have to agree. This line runs almost a lot like a light rail train line.
Fascinating to see, especially with the long train stopping in the middle of the road like a streetcar / tram so that passengers can board / alight and that when in street-running mode the trains sometimes have to stop at red traffic signals, just like all other road users.
It's a shame the bi-level / double-deck trains were in the yard and not also seen in action
Yes, I've always heard about this and seen pictures/video! I'm glad I went down to see it for myself! I'm glad I saw the older, more classic trains, but it would have been nice to see both styles.
I think the American railroads should bring back the Interurban and electric freight carriers.
This is how many interurbans would run. With the North Shore Line, the train would run down the middle of the street in Wilmette and then again in Milwaukee. Other cities with interurbans did the same. You need to be careful obviously.
James 1yr ago: Also the North Shore Line I believe operated on St.Johns Avenue in Downtown Highland Park ILL. It seemed like there the only crossing protection was stop signs and traffic signals. Unlike the South Shore Line Trains the North Shore Line Trains would sneak up on you on Greenleaf Avenue in Wilmette and in Highland Park without sounding their horns, whistles or gongs. In Milwaukee Streets they were restricted to using their gongs except in emergencies where they would then sound the whistles or horns. Also there was street running in Kenilworth ILL and in earlier years Glencoe ILL.
James: Also in Kenilworth , Highland Park on St.Johns Avenue on the original Shore Line Route.
This is an amazing train!! In Japan, there use to be a train running on the street like this, but not such long distance. Really cool!!
Hmm, don`t you still have Enoden though?
I used to drive this street back in the 70's and 80's. You haven't really experienced it until you were staring down a "Little Joe" locomotive led freight. Those would put a scare into you! A train once ripped the side mirror off my brother-in-law's pickup when he was too close to the tracks attempting a left turn off of 11th.
Wow, crazy story!
5:08 street runner trains reactions to rail fans be like:
That's pretty cool
Great video but very surprised a cop never seen you following that close and filming. Very dangerous I would think for you and them passengers
Wait, who was driving the car?
Twenty years ago, I was driving on either Tenth Street or Eleventh Street in Michigan City following the tracks when I encountered a train coming towards me. They blew their horn at me and I honked back at them. Then I pulled over to the right side of the street to get out of the way of the train.
Laurence Gray: Where the North Shore Line trains operated in the streets of Wilmette ILL those trains would suddenly sneak up on you not sounding their horns or whistles or gongs. Also on Milwaukee the trains were restricted in using the whistles or horns in streets running and also sneak up on you. They did however use their gongs. Whistles and horns used only in emergencies in street running if there was an accident possibility.
Thank you for sharing that information about the North Shore Line trains Albert Carello. I am not old enough to remember when the North Shore Line trains operated in the streets in Wilmette or Milwaukee. I am sure that if the South Shore Line train was behind me and headed in the same direction as myself that I would have seen the train in my rear view mirror and pulled over to the side of the road to let the train pass me.
Grow up in Michigan City never really thought that this was that special since I wait on this train everyday but I guess it is
It’s very unique
Update: 11th street is now closed
I've ridden the South Shore train through Michigan City many times on may way between Chicago and South Bend. Always interesting to look out the window and watch as we progressed down the streets of Michigan City... though traveling on those streets meant for a slow crawl through town and at times meant sitting outside of Michigan City waiting on a train traveling in the opposite direction to clear the downtown area since this portion is single tracked.
Interesting view, I agree, but it always made me a little nervous.
That’s why they are rerouting the train
@@qjtvaddict are they really?
@@superschmolz to a new double track segment yes
Viewing from here in NZ 🇳🇿 and I found it really interesting, I noted that all of the passenger carriages appear to have electric traction and I was surprised at the length of the train, I didn't expect that. I know that all trains running in America have to have that bell operating in proximity to stations etc but that drive me nuts if I was a driver there irrespective of personal opinion rules are rules, thank you for posting.
Do the double decks use the street too?
Yes
Emerald Zebra: Yes they do.
WOW!! very very interesting!! Not sure why they set it up like that.
It was an interurban (streetcar/trolley line) in the 1900s. Throughout its history they moved to operating larger and longer trains.
They have plans to remove the street running tracks in the next few years
@@atomstarfireproductions8695 I wish they would keep the street running tracks even if they don’t use them
@@frenchsecurity3351 I’m actually not sure if they will remove them, I worded that wrong. They are planning to build new tracks so that the entire system is double track. Maybe they won’t remove it, as I’m pretty sure it will cost more to remove them than the money they can earn from selling the rails as scrap metal. They might remove the catenary wire though. Or maybe, best case scenario, they keep the street running tracks for limited use in some occasions.
@@atomstarfireproductions8695 hope they keep it for looks!
The only trains that can stop at a red Street light for cars
Amazing! Thank you for these special, rare glimpses of these giant road runners, Luke!
I'm a Model Railroder, Looooove your video 👍🛤️🚇 & love the South Shore Railroad,
Ive done this ride, and Love it!
Excellent! Street running is hard to beat! Thank you for uploading this.
You’re welcome!
Nobody other than you knows how to pull _that_ off, you're the champion! 🍸
I wonder whether our electric EMUs might end up there, the appearance of the fleets is nearly identical to one another. BTW, yesterday's local corporate news here was *abominably* sketchy at highlighting the meat-n-potatoes of a forthcoming joint news conference by provincial and municipal authorities coming today. Phase II of our driverless suburban metro - the MEN (as opposed to our [regular] metro) - is to add 20 stops along a 20-mile route, and - this is the shitty part - it's to interchange at Central Station by "spanning" our likes of your own Michigan Avenue..with the absence of _chic,_ mind you.....must the 'reporters' have meant straddle?! Why an el, when banter on boring tunnels at a much greater depth was bandied about as though _en vogue_ around the island here ::pfft:: . . . I'll be back.....soon?
absurdity, as in, elevated through the city with its suburban branches tunneled.....and all this while Phase I is presently passing its halfway-built milestone.....its route sketches now also published: montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/rem-connection-to-montreals-east-end-proposed-and-itll-cost-about-10-billion
East End MEN's videographed B.S.: ruclips.net/video/NWzG0WtD0og/видео.html
Trains and cars share the road? Crazy!
Those South Shore diesels, were they EMD SD?
Many years ago my family and I would ride the to Chicago.
Great video. Now I know what would happen if LIRR trains were allowed to travel down Queens Blvd in New York lol these trains are HUGE. Aren’t interurban trains fairly common in places like Germany?
We have trams in Europe but they aren't anywhere near as big as these trains
Goodness, is that an M5 or old cast P5 on CSS 805? It's freakin' beautiful! Love those old IAIS SD38s.
Old cast P5.
i love the sound of the motors on those cars.
America's Last Interurban! Thank you for sharing this cool perspective. I had the privilege of joining a train at 11th street before. Its a shame the whole railway will soon be diverted off city streets, but a win for safety. This is the only place this sort of operation still happens regularly for passengers in the USA that isn't a light rail or streetcar line.
I didn't know this!!! Such a shame, but yes, it will be safer. When are they planning on doing this?
The project website is here: www.doubletrack-nwi.com/
According to this January 2020 news story, they received some federal funding recently to begin some of the work required, but this is a pretty big project and also needs significant state and local matching funds.
www.nwitimes.com/business/local/south-shore-s-double-track-project-advances-in-federal-grant/article_3aa5493f-f831-5bfd-bcba-ae11e9c691c8.html
@@mhkansan I looked at the pages you sent. I didn't see a clear plan on how they will grade separate in Michigan City. I laughed a bit at the peak train/express train times. On average, express trains save only 7 minutes. What's the point?? In my view, express trains should be 50% faster, so instead of 1:15 hours, the express train should be 38 minutes.
@@Luke_Starkenburg Pages 2-21 and 2-22 from the master plan show the route through Michigan City. On 10th street, all the properties on the south side of the street would be acquired for a dual-track mainline. When it moves to 11th, only properties for the new station would be acquired. There is enough ROW to separate two rail lines on the north side of the street.
I agree about the Express v. Local service. On the South Shore Line, Express services are just those that skip a few of the smaller stations. That's why there is only a limited time savings. The current nearly 3 hour schedule from Chicago to South Bend can be easily improved. I'm excited to see better service in corridors like this, though. While the US deserves a stellar high speed intercity rail network, I think the biggest area of improvement we can make is in regional rail connections like this one.
Here is the master plan document. (mplshdrpi.com/doubletracknwimeeting/documents/2017-09-18_DT-NWI_EA_FINAL.pdf)
You mean they are about to ruin this wonderful setup??
The closest thing to an inter urban in the USA. The 11th Street stop is basically like a bus stop.
It's currently closed for 2 years. They are 'rebuilding ' it.
Love this!
I'm shocked that at some intersections the approaching train did not trip the traffic signals to green and the signals for the intersecting streets to red! WTF is wrong with those people?
This is incredible- love the shots driving next to the train especially. It seems so dangerous but clearly local drivers train-aware!
I had fun with this, but I hand almost froze holding my phone out of the window!
Well you did a great job given that you had to steer away from the train!!
Wtf ide love this on my street
I see some original south shore cars! Where are those 3 located?
Only Americans find this unusual of amazing. Trams and integrated rail are common in Europe and Asia.
I'm sure the train HATES your tailgating...
How is it going to be different with the upcoming project? Is the line being rerouted? Or will the street become a private ROW?
According to what I've seen, the track will be moved to one side of the street on its own ROW. I'm sure it will still have lots of crossings.
@@Luke_Starkenburg so it will be like the east branch of Metra electric? On the street, just not in mixed traffic?
You’re right. Insane. Holy shit this looks wild driving behind a train!
There used to be street running trains like this in my city, but they last ran in the 90s. They never ripped up the tracks, though, leaving me to imagine what it must've been like. Now I know!
What city is that?
I remember watching the train in the movie inception going down the street destroying everything in its path and people yelling at the screen. I was telling myself, if they only visited my hometown....lol.
Quite a mighty sight. I've never seen anything similar and you did well to follow the trains filming 👍
Thank you, I froze my hand having it out the window of my car for so long!
@@Luke_Starkenburg that's why it was so steady: frozen solid!!!! 🤪😜❄️❄️
My Hometown...I miss it
Would somebody please explain to me, why railroads ever did this? Run trains right down the middle of city streets? Through residential neighborhoods? You see this all over. Here, Oakland, CA, Ashland, VA, and many more. Why? It seems so senseless. These aren’t street cars, or even trams, but heavy rail trains!
Idk but it's cool
They did it because, back in the day, most people traveled by foot or horses and the roads were nowhere near as congested. By running through a town like this it made it easier to just stop to pick up passengers at multiple designated locations - no station necessary. It should also be noted that in many cases the railroad came first and it was the town that built itself up around the railroad.
I’m planning on being in the area to photograph the South Shore in a few days. Are there any set times/days/patterns the commuter trains and the freight operations run?
You can easily look up the commuter train schedule. I don’t think there is a schedule for the freight trains though.
www.mysouthshoreline.com/images/SSL-EBWB-reduced-weekday-train-schedule.pdf
Funny, but not for the neighbours probably
This is cool. I wish the US would build a proper high speed rail service and have more little local branch lines that do stuff like this
Except for certain regions, HSR in the US is a non starter.
@@F40PH-2CAT Biden might do it, but knowing the US they’d never finish building it or flatten a Native American reservation to build the tracks or something
@@Discotekh_Dynasty Or Demolish some of the Highways
i did not know about this train. might take a ride on next trip
Unbelievable that they drive on a regular street. Fun to see!
There's a bunch of smaller street-running sections all over the place, usually along industrial spurs. But this is the only one where the main line runs along the entire length of a city street.
What was there first? The railroad or the town?
That really long bus must have bad brakes. It's screeching horribly and just blew past the flashing signal.
Haha!
4:33 "It's interesting to see a freight train engine stopping for a traffic light." Interesting? It's outright amazing! Awesome! :D Only a pity that the sequence with the freight loco is sped up; I like the sound of North American locomotive horns.
It was quite something to see!
I moved my whole life (material wise) on this train in 1 trip from Chicago to MC in 2006
Cool!! Early I saw pictures with trains on the street only. In Minsk (Belarus) there are pair locations where train cross the street (about 50-100 meters). It cargo trains which delivers some stuff for Heat Energy Station.
Keren nih....di Indo Rel KA pinggir jalan raya aja banyak yg mati...alasan mengganggu Jalannya kendaraan...
Apalagi yang berbaur dengan jalan raya Kaya gini .. awesome.. 👍👍
Great job I would like to ride end to end ...
Do you have any more videos of the South Shore ?????
No, this is my only video so far of the South Shore line.
You should come back in about a year. They took the train off the street and are double tracking all the way to Gary. Still building new trestles and platforms.
Not every day you tailgate a train
Great video! You had 999 likes. I made it. 1,000.
Is there a particular reason that they don’t use streetcar or tram-train rolling stock instead of full-size commuter trains?🤔
These trains run at 80 miles an hour on the way to Chicago. Light Rail doesn't go that fast.
@@Luke_Starkenburg 80 mph is just 128 km/h. Normal German tram-trains go 100 km/h. Surely some American regulatory agency could make the rules allow a measly 15 mph more than in the Ruhr valley? 🤔😁
@@martinnyberg9295 You asked why they don't use streetcar or trams on this. I don't know of any streetcars or trams that run at 80mph. I really love the trains in Germany! ICE and Intercity trains are amazing!
Wow….it’s so really fucking cool. I wanna watch this train in my eyes❤
Nossa, que trem velho. Não gostei 😏
That is some serious street running!
Super
How many volts ?
How often does the train pass? It seems kinda loud for a residential area.
During rush hour, it runs a few times in each direction, plus the occasional freight train. In Chicago, the elevated El trains run down streets and alleys, inches from people's homes and backyards. It can be deafening!
@@Luke_Starkenburg Well, I do believe that it can be deafening. Guess the property value around the track isn't that high.
@@tigrovica8417 Most of the elevated trains don't run during the early morning, but they are insanely loud when you are trying to fall asleep. The people who live there say that they eventually just block it out and don't even think about it, and that when they are sleeping somewhere else it is really odd. I live a few blocks away, and can hear it if I listen closely.
@@Luke_Starkenburg except they don't blow the horn all the time on the el
Did anyone else notice that the passenger train has a railroad crossing bell?
♥️💕FANTASTIC!!! Thank you for posting!💕♥️
You’re welcome! Thanks for writing this!!
Wow!!! Very nice video...😲
Metra leased some of the highliners to the south shore
I haven’t ridden on the high liners yet.
Samuel Insull's RR lives on! About 100 years after he died penniless in a Paris Metro subway station! How ironic!
ulijohn:I can only imagine that the Chicago Aurora and Elgin and the North Shore Line cars would look and sound identical to these South Shore Line cars if those lines were running today and if we only had transit agencies back then like NICTD, RTA, AND METRA.
There’s a lot of street running here in L.A
Pretty cool but they should make this into a light rail
They also haul freight so that wouldn't work out too well.
This train runs for 90 miles, 2 of which are in the street right of way. Their partner agency Metra runs 12 car heavy bi-level trains for max 70 miles to places in Illinois- normally closer to 50. A light rail doesn't make any sense at all once you look at the whole picture. In fact, these trains are actually relatively small and friendly compared to a bi-level Metra UP-NW express train barreling towards you at 79 mph.
This is honestly the coolest thing I've seen in a while 👍
Excellent Video! LIKE43...........Greetings
I can't believe It. They are crazy!
Amazing
Alles sehr gut Anzusehen. Hammer
Interessante rodar no meio da cidade 👍
Request:Electric Commuter train ride in Montreal.
When I can travel to Canada. I think the border is still closed.
@@Luke_Starkenburg OK Thank you 🙂 I understand that.
That's wild...passenger train running right through the neighborhood. I've seen freight but never something in revenue service on a boulevard picking up people. Thanks!
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The only way to travel to Chicago's lakefront !
Been in our little city forever from my perspective.
The only issue is that if you dislike the smell of dope then Michigan City isn't for you !
The smell is prevalent all over town.
We sent our police department to sensitivity training (stop arresting criminals) and well...
I live in this town right by train station where final stop on Carol ave but don't live don't town where train is going right down the street I don't think I could handle that all day and nite .
Lagrange Kentucky makes this look like a rookie
And it’s stupid crazy driving next to this train while it’s stopping and going
Super!
The small train line that refused to die. The only way to skirt a frazen lake
What a miserable place to live. It's so depressed looking
The heritage of the 1900s
Hammer 🥰 gut
Next Time I'm in Chicago I'll go, So Cool
Das ist für ein Deutschen sehr Toll Anzusehen. Danke
This reminds me of the scene from inception
Kinda random but when restrictions ease up will you cover Ottawa and their Confederation Line for your next tour? Great video as always!
4:00 this classic car is scrapp?
And to think that we have space to put a second track in side by side. This city is pathetic on spending. Next there gona be wanting to tear down St. Mary's church.
No they won't tho
@@maas1208 I hope not
@@StayPositive-sd8op I'm Pretty Sure they won't
any updates on the ATS
No, I still see them testing it, running the trains. No updates though. :-(
@@Luke_Starkenburg 2 Years of shut down and no reopen. so Pathetic. WTF is Bombardier and CDA doing?
Sehr Gut 👍
Cool. And at 9:50 min the classical sound! Yeah!