I think robbie is 100% correct with the point that fans can have difference in opinions and can change their opinions from what you see in front of you on a day to day basis. This notion of sticking to just one opinion no matter what is absolute bs and should be called out. Praise players when they play well and criticize them when they had a stinker and same for the manager. 💯
Opinions shouldn't change daily. Each assessment should be measured and cautious and take account of what's happened before. For instance, if you lose to a top team and beat an avg team, then you're still justified in maintaining a negative opinion. Its not only frequently changing opinions its also how hyped and carried away people get when things go well and how panicked they get when things go bad- which is more of the flip flop factor.
For Arsenal to fall out of the top 8 all of the following need to happen at the same time: Leverkusen need a 6 goal diff swing + Villa need a 7 goal diff swing + Monaco need a 9 goal diff swing + Feyenord, Lille and Brest need a 10 goal diff swing! We have finished in the top 8!!!!
I can't disagree with this comment. As much I respect all fan's opinions and thoughts the younger ones are the ones that want to bring some sort of division between the fanbase
Why does Robbie always feel the need to compare Arsenal to City? Arsenal have no right to mock City after this decade, they are allowed to have an off season while Arsenal still haven’t won anything major
Robbie critics listen. If it weren't for Robbie we wouldn't have half of the entertaining fancams we have for ANY TEAM. He is the OG - a Pioneer in this space. Remember he got heavy stick even from the likes of legends like Ray Parlour from Talk Sport because he was seen as a negative influence during the latter days of the Wenger era. The truth is that thanks to Robbie, critics or even haters can actually get their opinions heard. And so he deserves appreciation and if he wants to balance the very considerable amount of pessimism and negativity with some optimism then so be it. Give the Don a break.
This is like when our fans were celebrating winning 6 out of 6 games in our Europa league group consisting of Dundalk, Molde and Rapid Wien a few seasons ago. What did that lead to? Oh yeh we got embarrassed by our previous manager in the semis. Who cares if we are ahead of Bayern, City and Real Madrid in the table. I guarantee all 3 of those teams go further than us. The fans who push this PR nonsense deserve nothing
@ it’s Robbie’s channel and he is a supporter and, he speaks to all the people that go to the games. That includes sitting room pundits, fanatics, and supporters. If it was all one opinion all the time it wouldn’t get people like us watching.
Banter aside, the difference between a very good team and a great team is consistency. Arsenal will smash a lot of teams and look good doing it but so will Newcastle, Forest, Chelsea etc. To get the BIG trophies you need to win week in and week out, no excuses, no referee conspiracies, no injury excuses, just win and then win again…
So only season ticket holders and match going fans are real fans? Check this London is a relative big city, but all those highly paid players and players you would love for the owners (American by the way) to buy, you think those "real fans" could support your clubs ambition? Without outside fan support your club and would league would be like the championship. Only about 3 epl teams have english/partial ownership, so get your head out of your arse, you need tourist fans, you need TV money, you need one game in their lives fans, you need plastic fans because your match day income in less that 1/3 of the clubs revenue. So stfu and let fans be fans however they can.
@@DrKayC Precisely. Real Arsenal fans don't cause a divide, which goes against the fundamental principles of the club. It's peak irony that these people don't realise what they're doing when they say stuff like "Only real fans go to games".
Happy Ødegaard scored his goal, but honestly he doesn’t create much these days. He really needs to up his game because we can’t rely on corners or crosses every game Kiwior: 7 Gabriel: 7 Zinchenko: 6 Jorginho: 7 Rice: 8 Ødegaard: 6 Sterling: 5 Havertz: 8 Martinelli: 9 ⭐️ Arteta: 7
I was in the stadium and you could tell the lads were cruising, esp with the early goal. Didn't get out of 2nd gear but didn't need to - Zagreb were crap. We've played so much footy this month and still big games to come, I get the team just doing what they needed to tonight.
@@TheLemonaiden aftv is watched by many fans because ur fan base constantly clowns themselves. And I’m watching this whilst at work so I’m getting paid to watch this r u?
Look I hate West Ham as much as the next guy, you’re a likkle man club who keeps pretending like we are rivals bcos we took your best player. You need to relax and your fans need to stop begging it. How you can sit there and say oh wow you beat a Croatian team at home when your fans still mention the conference league every 5 minutes is beyond me😂 however I will say you’re right. Arsenal fans shouldn’t be hyping beating Croatian teams who are getting eliminated. That’s something a West Ham fan would do.
Robbie z one off those fans who praise Arteta for arrogance,,, the opposition was very weak team,, that's average performance from Arsenal nothing to praise
Why is it only difficult for Arsenal to buy in January? If others are able to do it, then we have small club mentality and the owners are happy with the profit that they are making and don't want trophies and Arteta is their YES man!
The need for striker and winger we are desperate about did not just come up we all knew we needed this since the summer and they were looking forward to get them in January knowing fully well how difficult January transfer can be... That's my frustration. Absolutely nonesense
Arsenal is in second position in the league, third in the champions League without a high level STRIKER. Let the board buy a striker and we win trophies.
Cecil asks the most braindead contrarian questions in this frustrating smug tone. Like why dude, why do you keep asking about the supposedly indifferent performance on a convincing 3-0 win. And its not even devils advocate because you can play devils advocate by just asking better questions, about havertz or just talking about individual goal situations or tactics or whatever. Like consistently this dude has terrible football takes and dkesnt seem to know whats going on at the most basic level
If Arteta could have played kiwior last game against aston villa and played partey in the midfield, arsenal could have won that game. If they played butler odejeni as a striker than hervertz, arsenal could have scored 6 goals.
I actually agree with robbie when our attackers are on there game martinelli/trossard they can do the job but when they dont its so bait we need more consistency from them we aint got bench worth turning to lets be real
Problem is on you Robbie you can't be a fan and interviewer at the same time, when you ask some question to other as interviewer then let them answer to that question according to their understanding, just don't try to align their thoughts with yours. Respect their opinion man, Whenever Yardman speaks you shrug him off him immediately, yes it's your channel you can do whatever but if it's fan channel then many fans have many opinions.
Bro this patson daka stuff is such a cheap shot, turkish never mentioned daka as someone to take us to the next level he said Daka was better than Nketiah, which is true!
1:00: these games are not great because of teams like Arsenal where players take 0 risks with the ball and play slow football. Not because of these teams that try to defend properly but at least when they have the ball, they try to play it quickly forward even if it means they have a higher chance to loose it. Possession based football makes the game boring, not the other way around.
So if we lose by 2 goals to Girona let's say, Villa would have to win by 6 or more, Monaco by 7 or more, Feyenoord, Lille or Brest by 8 or more goals in order for us to not be in top 8. So we are 99% there...
No Arsenal intelligent fan is over estimating this win , there are bigger tests to come. It’s job done tonight and having qualified, I’d move for a striker to give it our best go for the trophy!!! Without the striker we will probably come up short, however with a great striker we would be close and definitely in the mix for next season. Remember when we couldn’t beat a top 6 side
Hard to sign in “JUnooWarEee” 😂 City just casually sign four players without a single issue and looking to sign two more class players before it shuts! 🤪
Robbie was doing well until he said Arsenal has been as good as Barcelona.. Has he forgotten Barcelona won a trophy a few days ago after beating Real Madrid 5-2. Can that toothless Arsenal attack dream of beating Real?
Robbie has no shame ! So playing against weak teams this fool says wow! Scored vs as you weak team ! Robbie is shameful Robbie . .. you Liverpool Fc will flop when we the real test ! Big man ... we are top . LIVERPOOL FC TOP OF BOTH !
I think robbie is 100% correct with the point that fans can have difference in opinions and can change their opinions from what you see in front of you on a day to day basis. This notion of sticking to just one opinion no matter what is absolute bs and should be called out. Praise players when they play well and criticize them when they had a stinker and same for the manager. 💯
Facts 100% agree. Not a big fan of Robbie nowadays but I find it ridiculous how he gets criticised for this opinions can change overtime
Exactly. If a fan had the same opinion on say, Xhaka all the way from 2016-2023, you’d rightfully call them deluded
0 ball knowledge mate if you know your ball you get it right 1st take simple
Opinions shouldn't change daily. Each assessment should be measured and cautious and take account of what's happened before. For instance, if you lose to a top team and beat an avg team, then you're still justified in maintaining a negative opinion.
Its not only frequently changing opinions its also how hyped and carried away people get when things go well and how panicked they get when things go bad- which is more of the flip flop factor.
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For Arsenal to fall out of the top 8 all of the following need to happen at the same time: Leverkusen need a 6 goal diff swing + Villa need a 7 goal diff swing + Monaco need a 9 goal diff swing + Feyenord, Lille and Brest need a 10 goal diff swing! We have finished in the top 8!!!!
This defines young fans like Cecil. Social media based. Sad but true.
…he says while on social media 🤦♂️
Okay old man
Don't forget you're saying this while on social media pal
I can't disagree with this comment. As much I respect all fan's opinions and thoughts the younger ones are the ones that want to bring some sort of division between the fanbase
Why does Robbie always feel the need to compare Arsenal to City? Arsenal have no right to mock City after this decade, they are allowed to have an off season while Arsenal still haven’t won anything major
Go to man city channels 🤡🤦🏽♂️.. what are you doing here.. anything major 😂 how old are you
Citeh are a dopped up team . 115 charges FC have no right to speak in public ANYWHERE
@@tlhompholeonardkebabaletsw367No league titles in 31 years and no UCL'S! Nothing major!
Robbie you are talking sensibly and I really appreciate that you are honest in your breakdown of the game and situation
Don Robbie spitting facts as usual! “A man play good he gets blessed, a man play bad he gets cussed”! 😅
Well yeah what’s wrong with that
Robbie critics listen. If it weren't for Robbie we wouldn't have half of the entertaining fancams we have for ANY TEAM. He is the OG - a Pioneer in this space. Remember he got heavy stick even from the likes of legends like Ray Parlour from Talk Sport because he was seen as a negative influence during the latter days of the Wenger era. The truth is that thanks to Robbie, critics or even haters can actually get their opinions heard. And so he deserves appreciation and if he wants to balance the very considerable amount of pessimism and negativity with some optimism then so be it. Give the Don a break.
Facts, Robbie created the fan channel. I would much rather hear Arsenal get slated by Arsenal fans than some "Man Utd legend" on Sky Sports.
Well said👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Oh do one
Facts!! I will always defend my Don 😤😤 some of these chronically online freaks take it too far
Cecil’s got the innocence and free-spiritedness of a baby. Love him!
We still need a striker
Absolutely. Havertz need 5 chances to score an easy goal. Another striker would have scored 3 goals
@@arjanndoj4444 Another striker would score 100 goals in a season and we would win every game easily.
@@domagojhrgovic7419 who can be this guy?
No I love Havertz
…And we are 3rd in a table of 32 elite champions league teams after 7 games, Ahead of Madrid, Bayern, City and 28 other teams.
Zero UCLs for little Arsenal
@@mac10ner gonna cry?
OT@@mac10ner
@mac10ner what does that have To Do with It? They are happy to be in the mix, big progression from a few years ago go hate elsewhere
This is like when our fans were celebrating winning 6 out of 6 games in our Europa league group consisting of Dundalk, Molde and Rapid Wien a few seasons ago. What did that lead to? Oh yeh we got embarrassed by our previous manager in the semis. Who cares if we are ahead of Bayern, City and Real Madrid in the table. I guarantee all 3 of those teams go further than us. The fans who push this PR nonsense deserve nothing
This was a fan channel, now it's a Arsenal PR channel...
It’s a supporter’s channel. Supporter’s always look for the positives in their team.
Turkish and Yardman are regulars on this channel and consistently criticize the club. Wtf are you talking about bro
Hating for no reason. Why Arsenal PR channel?
You're just a troll
@ it’s Robbie’s channel and he is a supporter and, he speaks to all the people that go to the games. That includes sitting room pundits, fanatics, and supporters. If it was all one opinion all the time it wouldn’t get people like us watching.
Flip-flop ❌️
Spineless PR merchant ✅️
Banter aside, the difference between a very good team and a great team is consistency. Arsenal will smash a lot of teams and look good doing it but so will Newcastle, Forest, Chelsea etc. To get the BIG trophies you need to win week in and week out, no excuses, no referee conspiracies, no injury excuses, just win and then win again…
Our whole problem this year, is when we need to go up the gears, we couldn’t do it. But good result, can’t complain tonight
"you're a FLIP-FLOP!"
The whole AFTV team are flip-flopped especially Lee Judges. I might give Robbie and Ty the exception.
And that’s exactly what it should be. Real fans (Season ticket holders and those that attend matches) expressing their opinions and without editing.
So only season ticket holders and match going fans are real fans? Check this London is a relative big city, but all those highly paid players and players you would love for the owners (American by the way) to buy, you think those "real fans" could support your clubs ambition? Without outside fan support your club and would league would be like the championship. Only about 3 epl teams have english/partial ownership, so get your head out of your arse, you need tourist fans, you need TV money, you need one game in their lives fans, you need plastic fans because your match day income in less that 1/3 of the clubs revenue. So stfu and let fans be fans however they can.
@@g.wes.3906 Thank you, this nonsense of "real" fans is just an attempt to be elitist. The EPL is only big because of its global viewership.
@@DrKayC Precisely. Real Arsenal fans don't cause a divide, which goes against the fundamental principles of the club. It's peak irony that these people don't realise what they're doing when they say stuff like "Only real fans go to games".
@ Yep typical ignoramus that reverts to POTTY LANGUAGE because they don’t have the intellect to put a structured point of view in place.
What I cared about is the result. 3 nill is great and I love it.
I hope they are paying him under the table because AFTV will never work directly with Arsenal FC.
His P.R. is elite 😴
The summer transfer window was a 4 at best
Keep dreaming !
@nav2009 This comment makes absolutely no sense
4 ? You meant -4 but forgot the -
Happy Ødegaard scored his goal, but honestly he doesn’t create much these days. He really needs to up his game because we can’t rely on corners or crosses every game
Kiwior: 7
Gabriel: 7
Zinchenko: 6
Jorginho: 7
Rice: 8
Ødegaard: 6
Sterling: 5
Havertz: 8
Martinelli: 9 ⭐️
Arteta: 7
Since may last season he's had 3 assist and 2 goals now. Happy for him too..hopefully he kicks into gear now
New creative mid and a scoring mid needed for next season
Turkish’s rent boys are mad havertz scored and assisted
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a GOOD player hated this much by their own fans. Just embarrassing.
Im glad your happy with that chelsea reject 😂.
Because, he is not a good Striker, we can't buy a Striker because of him,@@DanielFinton
Certainly involved in a lot of goals for a guy who’s not good. Oh also, we’re gonna get a striker. Maybe not in January, but we’ll get one @Jlc754
He still stinks😂
I was in the stadium and you could tell the lads were cruising, esp with the early goal. Didn't get out of 2nd gear but didn't need to - Zagreb were crap. We've played so much footy this month and still big games to come, I get the team just doing what they needed to tonight.
Oh you beat a Croatian team at home wow crazy work
5-2 😊
Is your life that boring as a West Ham fan you waited to comment on an Arsenal channel after a 3-0 win 🤣
@@osman6116 the reason u didn’t win the league last year was because of us
@@TheLemonaiden aftv is watched by many fans because ur fan base constantly clowns themselves. And I’m watching this whilst at work so I’m getting paid to watch this r u?
Look I hate West Ham as much as the next guy, you’re a likkle man club who keeps pretending like we are rivals bcos we took your best player. You need to relax and your fans need to stop begging it. How you can sit there and say oh wow you beat a Croatian team at home when your fans still mention the conference league every 5 minutes is beyond me😂 however I will say you’re right. Arsenal fans shouldn’t be hyping beating Croatian teams who are getting eliminated. That’s something a West Ham fan would do.
Got to give credit where it's due, fair play Robbie
If you use Scott Steiner's maths, we are technically through to the knockout stages 😂
The wrestler ?
How comes?it has been hard to buy players in January for Arsenal,but easy for Man City .
It’s easy to buy players, buying quality players that will improve the squad isn’t.
Had you heard of those players before (that City signed)?
Robbie z one off those fans who praise Arteta for arrogance,,, the opposition was very weak team,, that's average performance from Arsenal nothing to praise
When robbie farts…everyone stops what they are doing and gives him a round of applause.
Sounds like a compliment
Robbie old gen fan, Cecil new gen fan. Old gen always.
Robbie's increasingly becoming more spineless
The way zinchenko pass inside help martinelli to cut in.
You've changed into a PR guy ever since you got that interview with edu, started getting invited onto sky sports 👍🏼
@@majeebahmed1099 you’re acting like you know Robbie personally. Do you?
Flip Flop Robbert unlocked
Yeh robbie you beat an average east European team and you're celebrating like Prime Arsenal are back, get a grip. Back to usual business vs Wolves
Girona that gave Liverpool a tough game? Yeah right Cecil 😂
Yeah, and We cooked PSG, who decimated Mancity. How about that?
@@robertterefa8365another trophy for Arteta ! Beat PSG cup
@@Adam-gv6yv do well to understand more
Why is it only difficult for Arsenal to buy in January? If others are able to do it, then we have small club mentality and the owners are happy with the profit that they are making and don't want trophies and Arteta is their YES man!
He’s not a flip flop, he’s a sell out
Pls Robbie where's kelechi😢😢?
He’s in Nigeria right now still doing fan cams
Kelechi is in Nigeria you can follow his interview on football fans tribe
Robbie's 100% right
Its that hard to sign players in january man city have just gone and signed 3 🙄
Clearly you don’t care if you get called what you’ve steadily been😂
Zagreb's fans attacked more than their team!
The need for striker and winger we are desperate about did not just come up we all knew we needed this since the summer and they were looking forward to get them in January knowing fully well how difficult January transfer can be... That's my frustration. Absolutely nonesense
It’s not hindsight Robbie, we knew the summer transfer window was terrible at the time, you just tried to shout down anyone who disagreed with you.
Robbie is 100% correct
Big ups Cecil and Robbie. Cecils interviews are improving big time and Robbie is speaking straight facts.
Robbie, well done. You tell it as it is. Good interview by Cecil. Good performance by Arsenal. Season not over just yet.
Arsenal is in second position in the league, third in the champions League without a high level STRIKER.
Let the board buy a striker and we win trophies.
Hyping up a win against a team that's not played for a month 😂
Robbie: you had a shocker
Also Robbie: 6/10 rating
Cecil asks the most braindead contrarian questions in this frustrating smug tone. Like why dude, why do you keep asking about the supposedly indifferent performance on a convincing 3-0 win. And its not even devils advocate because you can play devils advocate by just asking better questions, about havertz or just talking about individual goal situations or tactics or whatever. Like consistently this dude has terrible football takes and dkesnt seem to know whats going on at the most basic level
We have bigger fish to fry
Did he just say Arsenal have been as good as Barcelona in the UCL ?
You’re just a flip….Arsenal is the real flop😂
If Arteta could have played kiwior last game against aston villa and played partey in the midfield, arsenal could have won that game. If they played butler odejeni as a striker than hervertz, arsenal could have scored 6 goals.
Martinelli was cooking he said, did we just watched the same game? He was so bad he didn’t even get past their RB once😂😂
Take a drink everytime he says Hold On
We still need a striker. Even if Havertz scores all the way to the transfer window closes, we should get a striker.
Cecil dressed like a ball boy...
Anyone who says ‘low block’ like it’s ‘a thing’ loses all credibility for me
I am quite sure Aftv will start to lose viewership, Arsenal Tv
Why can’t people understand that we aren’t mad that Arsenal can’t win games it’s that WE CANT WIN TROPHIES
Arsenal don't have to sign anyone this window. Havertz is scoring and Nwaneri is back. We're gonna win the two big ones
Not a Flip Flop , just on the payroll
I actually agree with robbie when our attackers are on there game martinelli/trossard they can do the job but when they dont its so bait we need more consistency from them we aint got bench worth turning to lets be real
We should score 10 coals if we haven’t NR 9 striker
ROBBIEEEEEE ...THAT WRIST WATCH THO.....Boiiii
Problem is on you Robbie you can't be a fan and interviewer at the same time, when you ask some question to other as interviewer then let them answer to that question according to their understanding, just don't try to align their thoughts with yours. Respect their opinion man, Whenever Yardman speaks you shrug him off him immediately, yes it's your channel you can do whatever but if it's fan channel then many fans have many opinions.
Bro this patson daka stuff is such a cheap shot, turkish never mentioned daka as someone to take us to the next level he said Daka was better than Nketiah, which is true!
Arsenal will a tough task for anyone in the knock out stages. Especially considering their set pieces, Saka back etc
Robbie talking like Arsenal will beat Milan Real Madrid Barca Atletico Madrid Bayern. PSG in CL
I don't want to see this guy called Stanley play for my club anymore.
Robbie really on his Ty arc. So Confusing Having One CL Table guise 😵😵😵😵😵😵
Forget style....just win !!
This channel is a disease to our club
Only the Arsenal fan base would gas up this win against a terrible team 😂 just give it a few weeks until you play a good team & they send you home.
When last did we lost in 90mins?
The worst Manchester United team in history just eliminated you? But good luck trying to win the champions league.
Then why lying about Arteta, this is his 6th year
I just realised what a flip flop means in internet terms.. it’s dumb
Robbie we know you dont care, ur not a flip flop, ur deluded
1:00: these games are not great because of teams like Arsenal where players take 0 risks with the ball and play slow football. Not because of these teams that try to defend properly but at least when they have the ball, they try to play it quickly forward even if it means they have a higher chance to loose it.
Possession based football makes the game boring, not the other way around.
Robbie, yes ure a flip flopper. Big time.
So if we lose by 2 goals to Girona let's say, Villa would have to win by 6 or more, Monaco by 7 or more, Feyenoord, Lille or Brest by 8 or more goals in order for us to not be in top 8.
So we are 99% there...
And you'll be 99% out very soon😂
@@stevenlobban8162 good joke mate 🤣🤣🤣
No Arsenal intelligent fan is over estimating this win , there are bigger tests to come.
It’s job done tonight and having qualified, I’d move for a striker to give it our best go for the trophy!!!
Without the striker we will probably come up short, however with a great striker we would be close and definitely in the mix for next season.
Remember when we couldn’t beat a top 6 side
This is not the AFTV we went to watch. 😂
Hard to sign in “JUnooWarEee” 😂 City just casually sign four players without a single issue and looking to sign two more class players before it shuts! 🤪
Turkish also said Kulusevski was better than Saka
Robbies views on how the opposition played against Arsenal is how their opposition feels like more time 😅
your not a flip flop. your a sellout and club puppet. get it right robbie 🙂
When pressure is on and talent level is up Artetas teams fall apart. End of season will be no different.
A team from outside the top 8 will win this competition!
Cecil 🤔🤷🤦
Robbie was doing well until he said Arsenal has been as good as Barcelona.. Has he forgotten Barcelona won a trophy a few days ago after beating Real Madrid 5-2. Can that toothless Arsenal attack dream of beating Real?
Don't forget Inter Milan, they have been very good.
Haverty assisted and scored
Robbie has no shame !
So playing against weak teams this fool says wow!
Scored vs as you weak team !
Robbie is shameful
Robbie . .. you Liverpool Fc will flop when we the real test !
Big man ... we are top .
LIVERPOOL FC TOP OF BOTH !
@aftv
Will you be there at the end? Too self congratulating too quick
Good win against poor opposition. Boring football but at least Havertz , Rice and Odegard scored.
I'm glad I sold my ticket for this game, dead boring as predicted
3-0 but damn boring !! 💤
Win the Champions League? On our best day there is no teamwe cannot beat ;)
We wont win it robbie!!