Gary Sprake: Whistleblower or Traitor?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Gary Sprake kept goal for that Leeds team over 500 times - he was a Leeds United legend. But today he is no longer welcome at he club that made him famous. In 1977, three years after leaving the club that made him famous, Gary spoke to the Daily Mirror accusing his old manager, the legendary Don Revie, then the England team manager, of involvement in match fixing.

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  • @alfamaleUK68
    @alfamaleUK68 4 года назад +41

    Gary was my uncle.......to think Leeds wouldn't allow him back at Elland road is disgraceful.......RIP

    • @TomRogersOnline
      @TomRogersOnline 2 года назад +4

      That's wrong. Your uncle was one of the Leeds greats.

    • @temperedglass1130
      @temperedglass1130 2 года назад

      🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

    • @purpledragons1146
      @purpledragons1146 2 года назад +3

      He's a liar and a traitor to Leeds. He's bitter Revie dropped him for David Harvey and didn't give him a testimonial.

    • @coops1964
      @coops1964 2 года назад +3

      @@purpledragons1146 Truth hurts

    • @purpledragons1146
      @purpledragons1146 2 года назад +1

      @@coops1964 Leeds were cheated out of several titles during that era. If Revie was a match fixer it would have been the other way around.

  • @TomRogersOnline
    @TomRogersOnline 2 года назад +9

    One of the fans shown here claims that before Don Revie, Leeds were not a club. In fact, before Don Revie, Leeds had at least two great managers, three if you count Herbert Chapman from the Leeds City days. Leeds had a history prior to the Revie/Armfield era and after.

    • @richardbranton7396
      @richardbranton7396 2 года назад

      It was a rugby and cricket city it had some name managers but they never made there name there ,even with John charles playing they where just a middling club .They had no significant history

    • @stephengallagher2209
      @stephengallagher2209 5 месяцев назад

      Hogwash. Leeds won precisely zero trophies before Revie took over... best was topping the 2nd division in 1924. Middling club is being generous. Revie made LUFC.

    • @TomRogersOnline
      @TomRogersOnline 5 месяцев назад

      @@stephengallagher2209 That's nothing to do with what I said!

  • @SUPERLEEDSYRA
    @SUPERLEEDSYRA 12 лет назад +15

    I'm as proud and passionate a Leeds fan as you could meet, I think the way Gary has been treated by his ex colleages is an absolute disgrace and leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth. He did tell the truth, he's not lieing. Gary if you ever get chance to read this, you'll always be a legend in this Leeds fans eyes. All the best.

  • @MARKETMAN6789
    @MARKETMAN6789 4 года назад +8

    As a man Utd can I saw him play many times and He was a very good goalkeeper there was quite a good few around the time he played and he was up there with the best of them

  • @seanbonella
    @seanbonella 4 года назад +8

    Bob stokoe in BBC'S match of the 70s said Revie approached him while a manager at Bury in rhe 60s and offered him a few bob to let Leeds win...
    Emlyn hughes also said Revie was money mad and said no matter how bad England played, while he was the manager, thet got paid well regardless....after raising their match money...
    Revie is refilled

    • @martleblanc
      @martleblanc 4 года назад

      Seánbonella refilled with what? Petrol?!

    • @simonpearn479
      @simonpearn479 4 месяца назад

      I've seen this myself Sean!

  • @batedawggg
    @batedawggg 5 лет назад +10

    As a born and bred Leeds supporter I can only commend someone for willing to do anything for his club. Having said that, if you can't win honestly, then did you win at all? It's a shame that Leeds have suffered reputationally over the years and still do to this day, it may not be possible to ever be seen in a good light as a club. But we march on forwards and we march on together. MOT ALAW

  • @cbarclay99
    @cbarclay99 5 лет назад +9

    Gary Sprake: Whistleblower or Traitor? Hero!

  • @10pinbowling
    @10pinbowling 9 лет назад +39

    Match fixing still happens today!! the football league's corrupt .....

    • @TheNixbrix
      @TheNixbrix 5 лет назад +2

      no...only leeds

    • @discepted9569
      @discepted9569 5 лет назад +2

      14 likes and yours has no likes so that must mean most ppl agree that the EFL is corrupt

    • @mickbrown8249
      @mickbrown8249 4 года назад +3

      SUPERB goalie BEST EVER FOR LEEDS & WALES my Birth TOWN SWANSEA City ...RIP Gary ...Revie was top manager but obviously CORRUPT...

  • @peterdockrill9653
    @peterdockrill9653 5 лет назад +25

    500 appearances for a club great achievement for any player

  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 6 лет назад +47

    Seems to me like he took a stand for the game's integrity, regardless of the cost to himself. That his team mates still wouldn't even speak to him 30 years later is beyond pathetic.

    • @servicecrew6813
      @servicecrew6813 4 года назад +6

      Because he's a lying twat. He was desperate for cash.

    • @servicecrew6813
      @servicecrew6813 4 года назад +3

      @Teresa Watts read up on it.. get your facts right then reply Teresa.

    • @cpaddy1
      @cpaddy1 4 года назад +3

      Stupid cunts why would the best team in Europe need to bribe players to cheat. All the people calling out the great DR are skint ex players or pathetic leeds haters just stupid makes me laugh MOT

    • @jive091
      @jive091 4 года назад

      @Teresa Watts is that's what's between your ears

    • @alexpaylor1365
      @alexpaylor1365 4 года назад +2

      @@cpaddy1 When were Leeds the best team in Europe?

  • @royrj5517
    @royrj5517 4 года назад +11

    If anyone bought shame on Leeds (great team) it was Revie, he had a incredible team, there was no need for him to do it. I can understand the way the club and fans feel, they see it as a betrayal but if Revie hadn't done it, there wouldn't be any problem. Just goes to show, where there's money, there's crookery.

  • @roytheboy1963
    @roytheboy1963 4 года назад +6

    The sad thing is they were full of talented players & didn't need underhanded crap from revie

    • @kgarrett1404
      @kgarrett1404 3 месяца назад

      Not only that, when Jimmy Armfield changed Leeds team in 1975 letting them off the leash to ‘play to win rather than Revie’s play ‘not to lose’.

  • @jamisbillson4872
    @jamisbillson4872 6 лет назад +6

    Just seen he died in 2016. How fucking sad. A Leeds legend treated the way he was for 50 years for telling what we all knew.
    Still top fans at Leeds but that’s just wrong what happened. Maybe the Leeds fans should give him a proper send off with the respect he deserved. Invite his family or something. Can’t imagine what it’d be like being hated like he was by HIS CLUB. And all he did t9 get Leeds into the big time. This gets to me...don’t know why. It ain’t right maybe. Reckon it needs fixing and the Leeds fans are the only ones who can fix it.

    • @michaelcleary8658
      @michaelcleary8658 6 лет назад +2

      What none of you Leeds United finds have mentioned is that Gary spent the last 30 odd years of his life in Solihull. I had many a drink with him, he was always a gentleman. He never, ever, spoke about Leeds, and we would never question him about his life. He was always quiet, dignified and softly spoken. He liked a drink and to socialise, but he did smoke like a train! I don't have a clue want went on with Leeds back then, but I would trust the word of Gary Sprake all day long! I think we converted him to being a Birmingham fan in the end! RIP Gary Sprake

  • @stephenwatson8558
    @stephenwatson8558 6 лет назад +26

    Remember at the time Derek Dougan , Wolves and Northern Ireland striker who was chairman of the PFA confirming in a tv interview Bremer sent by Revie , had approached him and others with an offer of money to throw a game vital to Leeds title challenge near the end of the season . Asked why he hadn't come forward he said it was for the good of the game as it wasn't that long after the match fixing betting scandal of the mid sixties and the game couldn't take another hit on that scale . Players at the time were aggrieved at what they were being paid so the chances are some took the money . DD refused and if I remember rightly Wolves won the game ..

  • @jerrylott4465
    @jerrylott4465 4 года назад +3

    I’m glad Sprake stood up for himself , I would do the same......The fans and club can’t take the criticism or just don’t want to believe it 🙄

    • @servicecrew6813
      @servicecrew6813 4 года назад +2

      Sprake was bitter and broke. He received £7500 for a bag of lies. O'Grady retracted his statement... Billy received £100k compensation..Where's your criticism now tosser ?

  • @AlexMcDougallPhotography
    @AlexMcDougallPhotography 6 лет назад +38

    Does that mean Gary was paid when he used to Chuck the ball in his own net?

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 4 года назад +5

    So these three random guys in the cafe know more about what happened
    than a guy who was actually there !!

  • @matthewleslie4448
    @matthewleslie4448 5 лет назад +8

    Wonder if that explains the strong animosity that Brian Clough had towards Leeds when he was Derby manager?

    • @seanbonella
      @seanbonella 4 года назад

      look what clough allegedly done years himself

    • @jive091
      @jive091 4 года назад

      Clough used to drink the bar dry at derby,every day that's why they fucked him off , they couldn't afford to keep replenishing the bar !!

    • @michaelpower4372
      @michaelpower4372 2 года назад

      Brain clough was himself accused of allegedly taking bungs.

    • @michaelpower4372
      @michaelpower4372 Год назад

      Clough was found to be taking bungs during transfer transfer of players.

  • @bungabening3530
    @bungabening3530 4 года назад +9

    If a player gets approached by a member of the opposing team and offered money to play poorly, it can't be just that one player that plays below par it requires a number of players to be involved. If Leeds were bribing their way through several 42-game seasons under Revie, you're talking dozens of opposition players who had to be in the know. Where are they all?

    • @pt1sa1
      @pt1sa1 4 года назад +2

      Bunga Bening you need to bribe the good players that’s all. Leeds were good enough to beat the rest. Alan ball frank McClintock all saying something similar says a lot.

    • @stephengallagher2209
      @stephengallagher2209 5 месяцев назад

      Bribing one player could certainly suffice, depending... Revie and Bremner seemed to pick out two or three.

    • @bungabening3530
      @bungabening3530 5 месяцев назад

      @@stephengallagher2209 In order to find two or three corrupt players on a team how many would you have to approach? Unless you're implying that all players were corrupt in those days, you would presumably have to proposition 5 or 6 players perhaps more. Multiplied by how many teams? You're talking dozens upon dozens of players. And yet how many players have actually made claims?

    • @memphisdaniels3218
      @memphisdaniels3218 4 месяца назад

      Those who took the bribes would have been incriminating themselves by talking about it. These were not days that footballers were millionaires so you may be shocked how high a percentage took them. Many others who had the integrity to refuse would not want to incriminate their friends because, as is shown here, you become an outcast.

  • @growlerthe2nd712
    @growlerthe2nd712 Год назад +3

    It’s not just players and managers it’s also owners, officials as well . I’ve been to many games over the years and you see blundering errors from keepers outrageous calls from officials and you sometimes think to yourself, have they been paid off!

  • @doesgodcareanymore
    @doesgodcareanymore 3 года назад +6

    Truth can be a lonely warrior.

  • @jimmybob12
    @jimmybob12 12 лет назад +9

    If Don Revie and Leeds United were fixing matches then Leeds United wouldn't have been the ultimate bridesmaid as it turns out, always hated by the Media so it's no suprise these accusations get thrown towards us whilst Man United player's admissions that Alex Ferguson had them practising diving in training is overlooked as they're the darling of the red tops.
    MOT.

    • @Pstephen
      @Pstephen 4 года назад

      I'd have wanted my money back.

    •  4 года назад

      Especially the Daily Mail.

    • @alexpaylor1365
      @alexpaylor1365 4 года назад

      Where did Ferguson admit he had United players practising diving?

    • @jimmybob12
      @jimmybob12 4 года назад

      @@alexpaylor1365 www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/2215755/fergie-told-us-to-dive-stam

    • @ianhales8036
      @ianhales8036 4 года назад

      Dirty scummy leeds

  • @Busybee65
    @Busybee65 4 года назад +19

    The irony of this, Leeds losing a bent 1975 European Cup final.

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 4 года назад +5

      And a 1973 Cup Winners Cup Final. The ref in that match was found to be guilty of taking bribes.
      The Greek crowd at the final reacted to perceived bias towards Milan by referee Christos Michas by throwing missiles during the victors' lap of honour, but despite protests, the result was not overturned. UEFA later banned Michas for life due to match fixing, although his role in this match was not investigated.

    • @mickbrown8249
      @mickbrown8249 4 года назад +1

      @@CB-xr1eg thank you for that info which I was aware of being a Leeds fan from 1967...Premiership Leeds are back in top flight other teams are scared...MOT

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 4 года назад

      @@mickbrown8249 Bit previous mate. Still 9 games to play.

    • @mickbrown8249
      @mickbrown8249 4 года назад +1

      @@CB-xr1eg No Worries my END...MOT :) we are the BEST ..

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 4 года назад

      @@mickbrown8249 What a weird reply...

  • @alisonwunderland9900
    @alisonwunderland9900 4 года назад +11

    Makes me laugh, all these people in denial. GS was a great keeper and a great man for exposing Revie.

  • @davis7099
    @davis7099 6 лет назад +9

    7:24 Here we have fans who begrudgingly speak to a Leeds legend and nationally respected goalkeeper. How senseless is that?

  • @mizofan
    @mizofan 10 лет назад +2

    @diamiss: no reply option is available for me under your comment. Yes, Sprake made a mistake in the 70 final but he also made at least 4 excellent saves, and it's absurd to blame him for the 2nd Chelsea goal. Sprake simply kicked the ball back to Chelsea when the free kick was given- some way from the free kick place itself, and then Chelsea took 16 seconds to take the free kick. It would have been unsporting for Sprake to have wasted more time anyway. I have just watched the match.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 10 лет назад +5

      it's a myth to say Sprake made mistakes in big games...he was outstanding in the 65 FA cup final and also the 1968 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup final against Ferencvaros...he made an error in the 70 final but just look at the pitch...it was a disgrace, a potato field, cased by the Horse of the Year Show...

    • @mizofan
      @mizofan 9 лет назад

      hugodrax71 Yeah, Leeds' first goal would probably have been cleared off the line if it hadn't got caught in the mud.

  • @dod6031
    @dod6031 4 года назад +3

    Refused to admit the same thing under oath though. Nothing but a snake 🐍

  • @GravityBoy72
    @GravityBoy72 4 года назад +9

    Gary is a hero for exposing Revie.

  • @TheSpikehere
    @TheSpikehere 5 лет назад +4

    I'm not sure Damian or his script writers have done their home work. When did they "dominate Europe"?

  • @jameshope398
    @jameshope398 6 лет назад +15

    An outcast because he told the truth sad Sprake's ex team mates shunned him after what he said R.I.P Gary

    • @michaelpower4372
      @michaelpower4372 2 года назад +1

      Was Don Revie investigated. What was the verdict. Why didn't G S not follow up the allegations.

  • @billybigtime2808
    @billybigtime2808 4 года назад +3

    I wonder if those howlers he chucked in we’re in fact match fixing moments

  • @ronnoten
    @ronnoten 10 лет назад +7

    There was match fixing going on in Scotland (Aberdeen) in the 1920s and it was covered up by the SFA.

  • @scoopermanu
    @scoopermanu 11 лет назад +17

    Mike O'Grady the ex Leeds player said exactly the same when Leeds needed to beat Wolves to win the league, He alleged that Revie approached him with a bribe but Wolves players where having none of it, Result.....Wolves 2 Leeds 1 , outcome Liverpool Champions !

    • @andymacfaul2852
      @andymacfaul2852 4 года назад +4

      scooperman Derby won the League that season.

    • @servicecrew6813
      @servicecrew6813 4 года назад +4

      Then retracted it all.... Sprake received £7500 for a bag of lies....

    • @stevehegan3609
      @stevehegan3609 4 года назад +3

      My uncle Danny Hegan was in the Wolves team then and told The Sunday People the whole story .

    • @servicecrew6813
      @servicecrew6813 4 года назад +1

      @@stevehegan3609 another bag of lies...

    • @purpledragons1146
      @purpledragons1146 2 года назад +2

      @@servicecrew6813 Exactly. Sprake recieved £7500 from the press but he refused to say his bag of lies in court under oath

  • @daikayll1897
    @daikayll1897 5 лет назад +2

    What a brave bloke. A cheat is a cheat is a liar, face it. Clough was right about him. Well done Mr.Sprake and shame on you who won't back him up. Glad I played rugby now.

  • @carlgostling6480
    @carlgostling6480 4 года назад +5

    The question is how many teams were doing this not just one

    • @harrycallahan3391
      @harrycallahan3391 4 года назад +1

      Bang on pal. This video would have you believe that only Leeds were at it. I'm sure they weren't the only one's. All part of the 'dirty Leeds' tag from the 70's that still sticks today..

  • @89macca
    @89macca 10 лет назад +43

    fair play to him for speaking out, cheats are cheats

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 10 лет назад +25

    From the start of my comment, I want to say this...I believe it wasn't just Leeds utd ..... so there was no need for Gary Sprake to speak out or tell lies on Billy Bremner or Don Revie and it explains all the more why Revie walked out on England... I believe Gary Sprake, and it takes a lot for someone to stand up and speak out...therefor he is a HERO!

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 9 лет назад

      Thanks Kevin, I was only being objective!.

    • @michaelhampton9493
      @michaelhampton9493 9 лет назад +4

      David Cummings I agree with you , David. Gary Srake has a lot more guts than some of his former team mates. Good for him to be prepared to stand up and be counted.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 9 лет назад +1

      Too Right, michael hampton!

    • @olayinkaamara385
      @olayinkaamara385 7 лет назад

      David Cummings I'm sure a lot of Gary Sprake's teammates and most Leeds United fans will always live in denial about the bribery allegations although the evidence from people within the game is overwhelming.

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 7 лет назад

      dont forget when sugar blew the whistle on bungs it was him and spurs they tried to punish not the guilty parties, as for revie as england mngr hed got a job which mainly due to ramseys approach was seen as an high office part of the establishment it was far far more important than the joke it is today,bit like reith at the bbc, so i doubt the powers that be wanted the posistion further stained by a conviction as they had banned revie from football they thought that was enough to hush it up and it worked few of us remember it. good posts david and co

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT 11 лет назад +10

    I think David Harvey was a better keeper than Sprake,Gary was frozen out of the team,then became a very bitter man.He never backed up his claims against Leeds.If they were true, Leeds would have been more successfull than they were.Leeds were true victims of corruption, the European cup final agaist Bayern for example. That was proven but the game was never replayed.

  • @carlosdeno
    @carlosdeno 5 лет назад +1

    Some people painting Clough as the Messiah, he was the master of the bung! He fucking invented it!!!

  • @jamisbillson4872
    @jamisbillson4872 6 лет назад +14

    Come on Leeds fans. I rate you as Prem league...Champions League fans. It’s a long time ago now. He told the truth...his version. He’s a Leeds legend. He deserves better than that. And to show up like he did...that’s Leeds. You’re better than that. Proper lads would give him the respect due he deserves as o main player who made Leeds a huge club. Sad.

    • @SUPERLEEDSYRA
      @SUPERLEEDSYRA 5 лет назад +1

      I'm a Leeds fan and I hate the way Gary was treated. I think Don Review was a great manager, but was a flawed man in flawed times. Gary told the truth and it's a shame how it all turned out. I wonder if privately some of his ex team mates regret the way they treated him. I really hope so because they should.

  • @mjc8281
    @mjc8281 3 года назад +1

    To start with I am not a Leeds supporter, Don Revie is an interesting individual as indeed are that Leeds team, personally although not old enough to remember the whole journey as England manager, its fair to say it was a dreadful appointment, Leeds and Revie where pretty much universally disliked and I very much do recall the anger across the game and country when he left for the Middle East, having done that all these types of stories gained new life. Personally I would be shocked if this type of thing wasn't going on at a pretty much industrial scale and its interesting that Alan Ball's name comes up... I was at a Manchester City Liverpool game where "the great man" (then manager of City)instructed the City players to time waste(it was 1-1 at the time)because they where safe..... hadn't been and as a result went down, no one will ever convince me that there weren't strange goings on going on in that game!

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 2 года назад

      teams playing for a draw isn't anything new though. In aggregate series's, if the first game ends with a win, that side almost ALWAYS plays for a draw the next game because they don't need to bust a gut to win to take the series.

    • @mjc8281
      @mjc8281 2 года назад

      @@GetBenched2010 Well in the City game I was talking about City needed to win a draw wasn't good enough and while I get your overall point if you don't need a win why play for one? keep it safe, but we aren't really talking about that, we are talking about teams doing things that harm them if the result remains as it is.

  • @davewilkinson4425
    @davewilkinson4425 7 лет назад +2

    I am a ex pat 63yr old Arsenal fan i remember that Leeds side of old and their antics all good players but nasty. Had Revie stamped all over them the way they played, from what i know about it which is subjective Revie left the England job for those reasons. Horrible man horrible team and everybody's pet hate.

    • @allthekingshorses7178
      @allthekingshorses7178 2 года назад

      Don Revie wasn't the only one adept at offering bungs, Bob Stokoe at Sunderland was rumoured to be at it too

  • @potdog1000
    @potdog1000 6 лет назад +9

    if he was fixing matches how come Leeds didn't win more trophies?

    • @stephen-truthseeker
      @stephen-truthseeker 5 лет назад

      The system isn't going set things up nice and simple to make it easy to work out.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 4 года назад

      European teams didn't need holiday money.

    • @apb3440
      @apb3440 4 года назад +2

      Because not all players were as corrupt as Leeds.

    • @johnlowdon5809
      @johnlowdon5809 4 года назад

      Because when the other teams players took their foot off the gas Leeds still couldn`t beat them.

    • @limedickandrew6016
      @limedickandrew6016 4 года назад

      Because it's probably not as easy to fix a match as you think.

  • @Rushscored4
    @Rushscored4 4 года назад +6

    Good on him for having the guts to tell the truth about something that wasnt right. Revie is a cheat , bremner too , and rest of that leeds team.

  • @joemcm1
    @joemcm1 4 года назад +3

    i think it did happen,but i think its happened everywhere.leeds were on the receiving end as well in one european cup final.does it happen now....probably in certain ways,just look at the big decisions the 'big 6' get over a season and look at the european cup final dortmund werent allowed to win

  • @talkinghead3169
    @talkinghead3169 2 года назад +2

    Until they met the mighty Gasgow Celtic - The Lisbon Lions! 🍀

    • @angusdesire
      @angusdesire Год назад

      Aye, then you met the mighty Feyenoord.

  • @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter
    @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter 4 года назад +5

    I was always on Clough’s side with regards Revie and Leeds. Revie came across as someone who would pretty much do anything to keep a very tight lid on his ‘business affairs’ and ‘footballing deals’. Personally I’ve always admired Brian Clough a lot - but the polar opposite applies to Don Revie - who I found to be an unlike-ably suspicious character - forever guarding secrets he knew damn well could’ve potentially landed him in prison. Giving him the England Manager’s job made the FA as culpable and deeply untrustworthy as Revie himself. A vile character imo - plus that Leeds team we’re deeply disliked by absolutely everyone except Leeds fans. Thank fuck he never managed Man United !!!

    • @hossainshaikhani1297
      @hossainshaikhani1297 2 года назад +2

      These are all allegations, nothing more. He Coul not prove any of it.
      You as a Clough supporter should know that it was Clough who received backhand money for his transfer dealings and it is documented and towards later years of his life resorted to alcohol and died as a result.

    • @michaelpower4372
      @michaelpower4372 2 года назад +1

      Knew your a prawn sandwich fan. What's it like holding up the premiership. Cough himself was accused of taking bungs. Back in the day

  • @cozener845
    @cozener845 7 лет назад +4

    Revie fostered a great team spirit at Leeds and had an admirable winning mentality. Unfortunately this included bribery of opponents, trying to influence referees by baggering them and questioning every decision guven againgst Leeds, kicking lumps out of opponents...... the list goes on. Revie's cautious approach to tactics and respect/fear of certain oppoents/teams would in the end greatly undermine the final trophy count of this fine team that was packed with talented players. It was only after Jimmy Armfield took over at Leeds that the players enjoyed more freedom on the pitch to express themselves. Armfield himself says the players themselves only fully realised then just hoe good they really were. The biggest hypocrite amongst these older Leeds players must be Johnny Giles. He is ready to blow the whistle on Matt Busby and Man Utd in relation to the time he spent there in the early 60s. But he like the other Leeds players of that era, bar Gary Sprake, have closed ranks with their own brand of a Yorkshire omertà. The truth hurts you older Leeds fans!

  • @KingHumphrey
    @KingHumphrey 4 года назад +2

    Just from this report I'd say that Gary Sprake was both a whistleblower AND a traitor. His story was believable, but he also rendered it unusable because he ran to a newspaper with his hands open for a large wedge of cash.

    • @Arthur_Pint
      @Arthur_Pint 2 года назад +3

      Revie didn’t think that Sprake’s story was unusable, because just knowing that Sprake was going public was enough for Revie to give up the England job and leave the country. At the end of the day ,Sprake was a hero and Revie was an unethical cheating coward.

    • @RebelRebelious
      @RebelRebelious 2 года назад +2

      @@Arthur_Pint Revie never sued Sprake or the newspaper. To me, that says everything.

  • @Elmwood-ze3cr
    @Elmwood-ze3cr 5 лет назад +4

    Brian Clough was right to tell them to throw their medals in the bin, part of the reason Leeds got rid of him so quick is because he was straight , he also told the board at Middlesbrough when he was a player that there was players taking bungs, hes well known for telling them after a 6 each draw with Charlton "its no good me scoring at their end when someone is deliberately letting them in at our end" Leeds would of been unstoppable IF they had of kept Cloughie

    • @dlamiss
      @dlamiss 4 года назад

      Ironically Cloughs time as Leeds manager probably should have been after Armfield once virtually all the Revies team had gone.

  • @poutsa1974
    @poutsa1974 10 лет назад +8

    Where there is smoke there is fire. I'm a Liverpool supporter but this era of Leeds United fascinates me. An excellent team that unfortunately should have won more. I actually believe the allegations and feel it was probably more common back then for these things to happen than we realise. They earned good money then too, but not the sort to set one up for life.
    The idea of Bremner offering the opposition money to throw a match makes me like them more to be honest... lol

    • @steakandsidjustleeds
      @steakandsidjustleeds 10 лет назад +2

      We didn't need to offer teams money to throw matches back then mate... They used to try bribe us to keep the score down

    • @johnc8770
      @johnc8770 8 лет назад

      +Just Leeds - steakandsid Well said mate.

    • @mizofan
      @mizofan 8 лет назад +2

      +Just Leeds - steakandsid Evidence of that, please.

    • @TheNixbrix
      @TheNixbrix 5 лет назад

      @@steakandsidjustleeds leeds are...and always will be ....shite scumbags

  • @albaproductions9602
    @albaproductions9602 10 лет назад +34

    We pontificate in this country about teams on the mainland that are accused of match fixing, but as soon as something is said about a British team it's all no no not in our country and the whistle blower is instantly sent to Coventry.
    When Johnny foreigner is accused it's all ok, only to be expected of those damn foreigners.
    And it still goes on.

    • @mizofan
      @mizofan 8 лет назад +2

      +Alba Productions Right, the delusions of tribalism and bigotry.

    • @ld5692
      @ld5692 7 лет назад

      mizofan n

    • @robertburgess11
      @robertburgess11 7 лет назад +1

      Alba Productions George Graham got found out about bungs and arsenal sacked him immediately...so hardly the British dismissing it is it??
      It’s just some clubs have standards higher than others.
      George Graham is/was probably more of a legend to arsenal fans than revie is to Leeds fans but that didn’t stop arsenal doing the right thing
      Leeds and their board know what happened and made an outcast of the player who is fighting for truth and justice

    • @jamisbillson4872
      @jamisbillson4872 6 лет назад +1

      Two brilliant comments. Typical Gooner comment. George Hraham more of a legend to to Arsenil than Revie to Leeds! See what I mean...typical moron. I’m a Luton fan...I love Leeds fans...proper fans. Like Pompey, Birmingham, Millwall, West Ham...the same clubs that had proper firms before the Hooligan haters got their way and made health and safety the be all and end all. Arsenil fans celebrate a goal by eating their picnic. ManUtd fans eat a prawn sandwich. Wankers.

    • @ianharris879
      @ianharris879 6 лет назад

      dont send them here ffs

  • @mikekemp9877
    @mikekemp9877 7 лет назад +18

    its said that part of cloughs dislike of leeds and revie stems from him catching revie bunging a ref during a cup tie

    • @alistairmarshall169
      @alistairmarshall169 3 года назад

      And you have proof of your accusation?

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 3 года назад

      @@alistairmarshall169 its in most of his bios

    • @alistairmarshall169
      @alistairmarshall169 3 года назад

      @@mikekemp9877 Ok maybe I need to read then to educate myself

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 3 года назад

      @@alistairmarshall169 the best one is by a local sports reporter for a nottingham paper who was very close with clough.he does mention how different football was back then especially in terms of bungs backhanders and skimming.he tells of brown paper shopping bags full of gate receipts under cloughs desk after a cup tie .revies team was i think no different from many first division clubs in those days it seemed pretty endemic in football.gary sprakes revelations and the manner of revie leaving england always raise a doubt about him.clough though at the end of his career was named in a court case for accepting a bung to sell a player and the george graham fiasco at tottenham show how institutionalised it all was between the managers.indeed thousands went missing at spurs under venables including buying players allegedly from norway who never actually left home for hundreds of thousands.in fact one guy was about 50 the club barman and had only one leg as the panorama special showed.sugar tried to get accounts etc sorted only to be told thats not how football works.when he blew the gaffe the only team penalised was spurs!sadly i think revie was a great great manager but just did things the way most of them did in those days.

  • @chloesdad1000
    @chloesdad1000 6 лет назад +3

    Accusations about Revie we're mostly all correct. An ex-player I know personally told me about him bribing him in the showers to conceed a penalty for £6,000, this would have won the Championship for Leeds at the expense of City and United in the 1960's. It goes on in most sports, especially football, so it is not such a big deal, even if he has passed away. RIP Gary Sprake.

    • @dlamiss
      @dlamiss 4 года назад +3

      Leeds finished 5 points behind both United and City (2 points for a win) when the manchester clubs won the league in 67 and 68 so it would have needed more than one penalty for Leeds to have won the league in those seasons. Leeds lost the league on goal difference in their first season back in division one in 64/5 to MUFC but its more than unlikely Revie would have been established enough as a top manager to have tried it so early in his reign. The ironic thing for Leeds were the two bent european finals they lost.

    • @williamwallace7651
      @williamwallace7651 Год назад +1

      @@dlamiss where was the six grand coming from is well🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jimmyglass1102
    @jimmyglass1102 10 лет назад +16

    it like insider trading we know it goes on, we just don't want to hear about it

  • @eddyvideostar
    @eddyvideostar 6 лет назад +1

    To: Neutral Observer: _"It's an easy choice."_
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Which makes the world a wearisome and difficult place, causing one to wonder and worry that one would soon be engulfed by the ravages of wrongdoing. In my town of denizen, an adage was formed: "If you see something, say something." This is not just for the subway, (tube, underground), but for life in general.
    Let your *(trained)* conscience be your guide. If one is a true *man* of character, let him profess this by his actions, and bow down to no one. For the lower you bow, the harder dem kick you! When you become a slave to their schemes, you will be tangled in the labyrinth of their incorrigible corruption. You are the only one who can look himself in the mirror and know who you really are. If you are honest with yourself, you have the ability to make changes, if not, you will have difficulty looking your family in the eye whilst saying that you are a man.
    The amelioration of my world is more salient and valuable than my dastardly, cowardly, meaningless existence. "They who lose their souls for my sake will find it!"

    • @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter
      @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter 4 года назад

      eddyvideostar - and your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever !! Lol. Thanx anyway tho ! Had a good gas reading it ! Cheers.

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup 4 года назад +7

    It's because of Sprake Leeds lost the 1970 Cup final

    • @pachma405
      @pachma405 4 года назад +1

      Chelsea made a blunder at the other end to let Jack Charlton score a lucky goal.
      The truth is, Chelsea were just too determined and wouldn't let Leeds get the better of them.

  • @kr1886
    @kr1886 5 лет назад +2

    Cheating by "sportsmen and athletes" has helped to destroy my interest in their exploits. Leeds and many of their players were looked up to by many and certainly admired by me as a kid growing up. I could always name every member of that great team and they undoubtedly WERE a great team but unfortunately the memories I had of them in that period have been totally devalued. Those " supporters " who reviled Gary Sprake would have been up in arms if it had been any other team found out to have been corrupt. Two faced twats! It's gone on for a long time and it will continue to go on. Look at Paul Scholes now. It's all about the money,money...

    • @swinetrek
      @swinetrek 5 лет назад

      They were a dirty bunch of fuckers. But I think all teams left a brown envelopes or little presents for refs of the opposition. I think it is still going on but in a different way.

  • @martynhanson
    @martynhanson 7 лет назад +12

    I am a Birmingham city fan, so as neutral as I can be. What I see, regardless of it being true or not, is there are loads of people wanting it to be true. They want something bad to say about Leeds. A lot of it, I think, comes from Man Utd fans who want to destroy, not even dim, the only period in their history where they were the best English team over a long period of time. I remember what Bob Hatton said about them years after 1972 cup semi final we played against them 'that Leeds team in 1972 were as good as any Liverpool team I ever saw in the late 70's' He didn't say anything about if they were dirty or not.

  • @Firebrand55
    @Firebrand55 5 лет назад +2

    Don't geddit..........where is/was the irrefutable proof, or non-proof, of Revie's involvement, in this video?

  • @ThatGuyThanus
    @ThatGuyThanus 4 года назад +9

    A traitor, for telling the truth..? lol

  • @dlamiss
    @dlamiss 11 лет назад +8

    Sprake made some wonderful saves but he certainly cost Leeds the victory in the first game against Chelsea in the 1970 cup final being at fault for both goals. with the second one kicking the ball back to Chelsea far too quickly. The goalkeeping position was the only one where Leeds didn't have a world class player. Harvey was a decent keeper but no more than that.

  • @stephengallagher2209
    @stephengallagher2209 5 месяцев назад

    Leeds were so good, they didn't need to fix games and the rest. Revie needlessly tarnished their legacy.

  • @keithfrance6191
    @keithfrance6191 3 года назад +2

    I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING & WATCHING . I don't know what think now. The first team I ever followed. Why had it taken Gary Sprake to reveal what happened behind the scenes with these stories of match fixing? Other footballers who knew of this whether within the team or their opponents should have come forward. Absolutely gutted !

  • @step4024
    @step4024 5 лет назад +1

    I'm from Middlesbrough. Ironically these two iconic managers are from Middlesbrough. There is a statue in Middlesbrough remembering one of them. Guess which one?. Enough said I think.

    • @tonidewonderful4187
      @tonidewonderful4187 4 года назад

      That is because Clough played for the Boro whereas Revie didn't so no statue for him

  • @helltopo
    @helltopo 11 лет назад +2

    Sprake probably isn't lying, but others were doing the same and he was paid well to make those allegations. Leeds played some of the greatest football this nation has ever seen, but all their achievements have been clouded because of these bribery claims. I don't blame any Leeds player for not wanting to talk to Gary, though I do remember him making peace with Eddie Gray a couple of years ago on a radio show.

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 2 года назад

      By all accounts including his own, Eddie never had a problem with Sprake, even after the newspaper reports came out. That said, it's hard to find anyone Gray has any serious hate for. He's always been a very diplomatic guy.

  • @dav5446
    @dav5446 6 лет назад +10

    I used to watch football in the 70s and 80s as a Man United supporter. Can't call me a glory hunter from that period. I think it is a shame that Leeds (a great footballing side) stooped this low to claim the win. Wasn't the idea always to play entertaining football and the win would naturally follow.
    I have fallenl out of love with Premiership football, it's inflated prices, manufactured atmosphere and win at all cost attitude. I started to follow non-league football and found that love for the sport again.
    There are many markers in football that display an 'old man's' disbelief in the sport, but for myself i can trace it back to Leeds United cheating. Robbing bastards !

  • @tonybates7870
    @tonybates7870 4 года назад +5

    The worst part about this is that Revie didn't have to bribe and cheat, because he was obviously a great manager. It's very sad that he couldn't rely on his managerial talent alone to make Leeds the top team in England. Bob Stokoe said Revie tried to bribe him to throw a game in the early '60s, so it wasn't just Gary Sprake saying these things.

  • @jbrodie007
    @jbrodie007 2 года назад +3

    Sprake was one of the best reflex goalkeepers in Europe, hence fact he made some incredible saves. But from a safety perspective he was way too erratic

  • @dlamiss
    @dlamiss 11 лет назад +2

    They did indeed and that was in the middle of Leeds playing 12 games in 28 days including 5 games in 7 days in the middle of the Celtic clash. I suggest the result of the tie would have been VERY different given a normal run of games

    • @wonjubhoy
      @wonjubhoy 6 лет назад +1

      Celtic won the European Cup 3 years before, a competition Leeds have never won. Celtic played more games than Leeds that season too.

    • @donegal79
      @donegal79 6 лет назад +1

      45 years ago....let it go pal...getting outclassed by the mighty Celtic is no embarrassment.

    • @dlamiss
      @dlamiss 5 лет назад

      @@donegal79 just like everyone on here im making a point and i dont even support Leeds so ive no need to "let it go" pal

  • @kgarrett1404
    @kgarrett1404 3 месяца назад +2

    The look on their faces when Gary walked into the cafe. Wolves players Derek Dougan, Danny Hegan, and Mike O’Grady all tapped up before 1972 league decider. Revie was a cheat. Sad but true.

  • @jimipurple123
    @jimipurple123 6 лет назад +20

    Revie giving his players rub downs was weird.

    • @FHIPrincePeter
      @FHIPrincePeter 4 года назад +1

      Now but not then.

    • @robchatc
      @robchatc 4 года назад

      I think i would have got a hard on somebody rubbing me down ;)

    • @JonnyInfinite
      @JonnyInfinite 4 года назад +3

      @@robchatc not it if it was Don Revie

    • @andypandy4607
      @andypandy4607 4 года назад +2

      robchatc yes if it was the former Chelsea physio

    • @stwads
      @stwads 4 года назад

      Yes when I saw that years ago on telly it made me wince. Very strange!

  • @michaeljenkins7024
    @michaeljenkins7024 8 лет назад +4

    If Revie was a serial match-fixer he was fucking shit at it. The amount of times Leeds lost at the last or the next to last hurdle is all the evidence I need that Sprake took the money to make a paper a story. The man's a disgrace.

  • @stilts121
    @stilts121 11 лет назад +6

    Sprake would never say this under oath in court as he conveniently "forgot" his claims in Bremner v. Oldhams which came back with a victory for Billy Boy in just under two hours.
    I will never disparage his playing ability, but, as a person, he's dead to me.

  • @MrPatrick1414
    @MrPatrick1414 4 года назад

    So he was either a whistle blower or a traitor...nothing else? No biases here. How about he was a hero and a gentleman trying to right injustices because he cared deeply about English football

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup 4 года назад +1

    Look at some of the goals Sprake let in - in important games.

    • @thekashman4566
      @thekashman4566 4 года назад +1

      Sameoldfitup Absolutely, because of him Leeds didn’t win more trophies

    • @johnbryant6572
      @johnbryant6572 4 года назад

      George connelly leeds v celtic 1970.first minute.we never got back from that mistake.

  • @celticwarrior1365
    @celticwarrior1365 7 лет назад +5

    Whatever the truth may be, I believe that David Harvey was the better keeper. And Iam a Welshman! No disrespect to my fellow countryman!

    • @stwads
      @stwads 4 года назад

      Harvey was probably more consistent but Sprake in the main was truly World class!

  • @cycheckmate
    @cycheckmate 11 лет назад +1

    The standard of journalism is revealed early on when the presenter refers to Sprake leaving Leeds because of "the odd goalkeeping error"

    • @peezebeuponyou3774
      @peezebeuponyou3774 4 года назад

      I suggest you watch it again- that's not what he said.

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT 6 лет назад +3

    Sprake was a typical Swansea jack. The real reason he turned on Revie was that it was said that Sprakes mistakes cost Leeds some key games in a a conversation between Revie and a reporter, who then told Sprake, which in fact was true. Thats why David Harvey became the Leeds number one All of Sprakes comments were since proved to have been made up to get back at his boss. Its simple as that

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 2 года назад

      I had heard that Gary went to the press because Leeds promised him a testimonial game and reneged.

  • @ricko3k
    @ricko3k 5 лет назад +3

    Sprake is an absolute goalkeeping legend and played a massive role in Leeds rise to fame. Bunch of Ludites.

  • @SMC01ful
    @SMC01ful 6 лет назад +2

    Gary Sprake, a decent bloke. However, there's dodgy stuff all about football. If Don tried to throw a sly one on the odd game, or get a sly transfer, he's still a great manager. Funny though he came across bigger cheats than himself in Europe.

    • @---cf9bj
      @---cf9bj 6 лет назад +1

      Maybe. but a cheater is still a cheater, no matter how much you dress it up.
      The truth will out, one way or one day

  • @ArchieFatcackie
    @ArchieFatcackie 2 года назад

    Peter Lorimer admitted there was dodgy business when they beat Sunderland in a second FA Cup replay at Hull.
    Jimmy Greenhoff going down Miles outside the penalty area falling inside and Ken Stokes the referee inexplicably giving a penalty.

  • @clivebennett7985
    @clivebennett7985 Год назад +1

    All thes comments are very interesting but i feel things went on then certainly. But i feel it still happens today. A ridiculous own goal a suicidal back pass. Yes players mske genuine mistakes under pressure but how many times do you see players give the ball away for no apparent reason? It hoes on definitely i think

  • @RussCampbell11
    @RussCampbell11 8 лет назад +27

    RIP Gary Sprake.

  • @stephengallagher2209
    @stephengallagher2209 5 месяцев назад

    Obviously Spake told the truth, and the players circled the wagons. Is there any alternate reality in which a player would betray his team-mates, manager, club and legacy for a few quid? No chance.

  • @marilynlothian1088
    @marilynlothian1088 5 лет назад +3

    sprake was doing the three draws eight to one with other keepers

  • @WildwoodClaire1
    @WildwoodClaire1 7 лет назад

    It's time Leeds fans, and superannuated Leeds x-footballers, just got over it and finally admitted that Don Revie was the most corrupt manager in English football history, and that everything Leeds won in the sixties and seventies was tainted, just as Brian Clough suggested.

  • @stuartcrossland1746
    @stuartcrossland1746 5 лет назад +10

    A lot of brown envelopes changing hands back then. I dont think its any different now.

  • @deansteele5234
    @deansteele5234 8 лет назад +28

    so our Brian was right. leeds won everything by bloody cheating. We are Derby!

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 8 лет назад +6

      +Dean Steele
      You mean Brian ( I took a bung ) Clough?
      The manager who won bugger all without his mate Taylor?

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 8 лет назад +3

      +98raza20
      I agree with what you say and yes Leeds United were cheated
      But Bayern couldn't just hand the trophy over
      They should have been forced to replay the final on neutral ground with a referee who was not bribed or crooked.

    • @richardsharpe2966
      @richardsharpe2966 7 лет назад

      Also the reporter from The Daily Mirror Richard K Stott would have also been done for lying as well if him and Gary Spaite had been in a court of law

    • @easygoingbloke
      @easygoingbloke 7 лет назад

      Actually he did win trophies without Taylor. League Cups. OK not exactly big at the time but still a cup and would Leeds have loved to have won the League Cup in late 80s early 90s that Forest did ? Leeds remember were in Division 2 back then and desperately trying to get up through the play offs and losing to likes of Charlton Athletic for right to go to old first division. Would Leeds have taken a couple of league cups that clough won without taylor in that time ....you bet your bottom pound they would have.

    • @wagbelt
      @wagbelt 7 лет назад +1

      When Cloughie said Leeds won trophies under Revie by Cheating i thought he meant that they cheated by being dirty,he obviously meant Revie was bribing the opposition.

  • @RussCampbell11
    @RussCampbell11 8 лет назад +4

    RIP Gary Spray.

  • @scoopermanu
    @scoopermanu 11 лет назад

    Yes, When I said around the same time I meant the same decade,
    I have watched a lot off football since then, Talking about all this nostalgia I will have to get out all my old VHS/DVDs and watch some decent football, cheers

  • @liamwhitcombe1237
    @liamwhitcombe1237 7 лет назад +4

    God bless you Mr. Sprake. The only honest & decent player in that gang of thugs & cheats

  • @dlamiss
    @dlamiss 11 лет назад +1

    the Liverpool game was when they beat Wolves in 1976 to win the league and send Wolves down. Wolves were one up until about 15 minutes to go when Liverpool scored 3

  • @lndnflms484
    @lndnflms484 7 лет назад +2

    I love that old Leeds side but the account in Frank McLintock's book True Grit has a ring of truth to it. He tells of how before a crucial game at Highbury he was approached by Revie to take it easy in the game, in return for a holiday. I reckon that if Revie did it, it was only because others had done it before.

    • @tutorsteve
      @tutorsteve 6 лет назад

      still not right though. heard Cloughie speaking a few years ago and he asked about taking bungs for players transfers... came straight out and said yes it took one for a certain player, half to charity and other half to my missus to go shopping....no denial, but i would bet my life he never tried to fix a game

  • @Marlondurran
    @Marlondurran 5 лет назад

    If Leeds have nothing to hide .. why the fuck do they not welcome Gary back...

  • @kevinhisee4265
    @kevinhisee4265 2 года назад +1

    Revie covered for him after that car crash, when he ran from the scene. He owed him some loyalty and whilst I don't doubt he's telling the truth, he should have kept his mouth shut.

  • @RebelRebelious
    @RebelRebelious 4 года назад +1

    So many made the same allegation
    - Gary Sprake
    - Jim Barron
    - Alan Ball
    - Bob Stokoe
    - Derek Dougan
    - Frank McClintock
    - Mike O'Grady
    Dodgy Don was at it....

  • @potdog1000
    @potdog1000 6 лет назад +7

    Sprake is a mercenary traitor who sold Revie for money

    • @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter
      @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter 4 года назад

      john e Lawler - Revie is a mercenary traitor who sold players for money 💰 hush money !!

    • @potdog1000
      @potdog1000 4 года назад

      @@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter very easy to malign the dead who can't defend themselves all yo are going on is trial by television & if it was true why wasn't Alan Ball & other accusers banned for life?

  • @WordsleyBaggies
    @WordsleyBaggies 8 лет назад +13

    RIP Gary

  • @A-R-17
    @A-R-17 5 лет назад +1

    Not the only time Leeds United turned on their own player for doing the right thing. Remember when Michael Duberry had to speak against Jonathan Woodgate in court when Woodgate beat up the Asian student, the Leeds fans instead of turning against Woodgate for assaulting an innocent victim turned against Duberry for telling the TRUTH. Pathetic fans.

    • @jive091
      @jive091 4 года назад

      Get your facts right before spouting your gob , coz it could be liable !

    • @A-R-17
      @A-R-17 4 года назад

      @@jive091 You seem to have forgotten the first or the last part of your comment. Normally when someone says “get your facts right” they have the facts themselves to back it up.