I think the lift you surfed goes about 7 m/s. This is how I reasoned: According to the "skyscrapercenter" site, the building has 49 above ground floors spanning 166.4 m. So the average height per floor is about 3.4 m. In the clip starting at 5:52, the bottom car of the lift travels from ground to floor 44 (as the top car landed at floor 45), meaning it traveled about 44*3.4 = ~150 m, in 28~29 seconds (let's say 28.5). Assuming 1 m/s^2 constant acceleration (seems fairly standard for skyscraper lifts?), the top speed hit would be almost exactly 7 m/s.
There’s also a 30 story building from the 1960s known as the IOOS building which has lifts that travel at that same speed! Of course the lifts in that building were seemingly replaced by Otis in the late 1990s or early 2000s! :)
All of the major manufactures build double deck lifts, including Otis, Kone, Schindler, ThyssenKrupp and Mitsubishi. The ThyssenKrupp twin is very different and only built by ThyssenKrupp due to their patent, which very much limits how many paces will install one, as most building owners in the UK avoid ThyssenKrupp as their logics at hard for other companies to maintain, and their lifts are not very reliable.
and in the tower in Guangzhou it’s 21 meters per second, imagine what it’s like there :) it’s true that you can’t drive at that speed in an unpressurized cabin
In terms of just smoothness (without any other factors) Mitsubishi is the best. They are famous for how little vibration they make. Mitsubishi lifts often feel slower than they actually are due to their smoothness.
hey we love your videos but have some questions do you surf the lifts during office hours or when everybody has gone home? do you need to get permission to surf them or do you just do it? Keep them coming lad :D
"Do you surf the lifts during office hours or when everybody has gone home?" The busier the building is the better. You would be spotted very quickly if there were not many people about. Also I would not want to be on top the lift going all the way down to the lobby not knowing when the lift would be called back up again. "Do you need to get permission to surf them or do you just do it?" You can not get permission to surf a lift at full speed. Not even the lift engineers are allowed to do this (although they most likely still do). Even without full speed, nobody in a posh tower like this would be able to give permission.
I don't upload a location when I am still there (the internet is not always a nice place and I feel it is too risky). The building you suggested looks interesting, although maybe a bit small compared with the stuff I have been getting up to in Warsaw.
How do you get in/ out? Im guessing the lift doesnt go full speed when/if you are using the buttons on the top. It has to be called from outside, right? Can you stop it (lockout) to get out and start it again? Or just home no one calls at that time?
The actions I took with these lifts is due to my level of experience and skill lift surfing and I would not recommend that anyone copies some of the more extreme things I do with lifts. I got on the lift by disconnecting safety at the right moment. I sent the lift down and timed the moment of when to stop the lift. To make this more complex I had to identify which lift car I was sending down (upper or lower car). Then once I was on the lift the Schindler Miconic logic continues its journey without having to refind position. To get off the lift I waited for it to depart a floor in the downwards direction, but only if nobody had just got out the lift (as they would see me), then I grabbed a roller as it went past as the lift departed the floor. With the very fast speed and acceleration this was a dodgy thing to do. I did not put the lifts into inspection as that may alert security.
@@benolifts thanks for your response. Very insightful. I don't plan on doing this myself, but I find this niche (lift surfing) interesting and love your videos. Interesting process. So it's all good timing. As I understand "breaking safety" stops the lift immediately. You use this to get on and time it right to get off again. I see how this requires skill and experience with the various logics to know how it will behave. And dodging security is another challenge on top of that :)
I had a 360 camera, and I wasn't impressed with the results. The original camera quality wasn't too bad, but the footage had to be encoded so many times by the time it ends up on youtube it has deteriorated. The camera required propriety software to re-encode the video after recording, then vegas rendering re-encodes it, then RUclips re-encodes it. Also the amount of time having to get each video clip set up correctly was a pain. Then once on youtube, the video player's view point is very zoomed in, which makes the video horrid to watch and navigate. 360 videos are best viewed where the user is seeing 180 degrees (so about 50% of the video) at any one time. This allows the viewer to quickly move to where the action is happening and not miss much. But RUclips's 360 video playback only shows around 25% of the video. This means the user has to click a lot more to find the interesting angle to view the video. Also RUclips does not have a good bitrate for 360. With how high the resolution is, and with how zoomed in it is, the low quality bitrate is very noticeable and ruins the 360 experience. I feel that 360 video is not get developed enough for me just yet.
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I think the lift you surfed goes about 7 m/s. This is how I reasoned:
According to the "skyscrapercenter" site, the building has 49 above ground floors spanning 166.4 m. So the average height per floor is about 3.4 m. In the clip starting at 5:52, the bottom car of the lift travels from ground to floor 44 (as the top car landed at floor 45), meaning it traveled about 44*3.4 = ~150 m, in 28~29 seconds (let's say 28.5). Assuming 1 m/s^2 constant acceleration (seems fairly standard for skyscraper lifts?), the top speed hit would be almost exactly 7 m/s.
Schindler double decker lifts are one of a kind. And that building is so massive.
I think the weird lift is used to deliver food to the restaurant.
At the KONE test tower jn Finland there are 2 10 m/s double deck lifts
Theres actually 1 double deck lifts
There’s also a 30 story building from the 1960s known as the IOOS building which has lifts that travel at that same speed! Of course the lifts in that building were seemingly replaced by Otis in the late 1990s or early 2000s! :)
I love black Linea Vetro from the first lift!
That pointless individual 5500 also seems to be one of the few that feels very vanilla. Almost like it was added as an afterthought.
It doesn't have the custom theming of the other passenger lifts. I am still confused why people need a dedicated lift to go between floors -2 and 4.
@@benolifts What Camera do you recording?
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I agree with you.
Ok that totally wasn't fucking terrifying at all
Did they yell Cholera Jasna at U? Lmaooooo
Wow, those lifts were fucking fast.
Lift surfing is ace
Absolutely awesome. Yes, those promo pics are a bit silly. 😄
The only other company that did double decker setups like that is thyssenkrupp with their twin lift system
All of the major manufactures build double deck lifts, including Otis, Kone, Schindler, ThyssenKrupp and Mitsubishi.
The ThyssenKrupp twin is very different and only built by ThyssenKrupp due to their patent, which very much limits how many paces will install one, as most building owners in the UK avoid ThyssenKrupp as their logics at hard for other companies to maintain, and their lifts are not very reliable.
and in the tower in Guangzhou it’s 21 meters per second, imagine what it’s like there :) it’s true that you can’t drive at that speed in an unpressurized cabin
Schindler 5500 is the smoothest lift ever invented, followed by 7000 and KONE high speed edition
In terms of just smoothness (without any other factors) Mitsubishi is the best. They are famous for how little vibration they make. Mitsubishi lifts often feel slower than they actually are due to their smoothness.
what is an Entresol?
Mezzanine.
Your videos are funny😂😂😂
Yeah they are 😂
hey we love your videos but have some questions
do you surf the lifts during office hours or when everybody has gone home?
do you need to get permission to surf them or do you just do it?
Keep them coming lad :D
"Do you surf the lifts during office hours or when everybody has gone home?"
The busier the building is the better. You would be spotted very quickly if there were not many people about. Also I would not want to be on top the lift going all the way down to the lobby not knowing when the lift would be called back up again.
"Do you need to get permission to surf them or do you just do it?"
You can not get permission to surf a lift at full speed. Not even the lift engineers are allowed to do this (although they most likely still do). Even without full speed, nobody in a posh tower like this would be able to give permission.
Why don’t Samsung make lifts so they can use their branded lifts?
I'm going to assume that the main set of lifts are 7 m/s, but they could be 6. It's hard to tell.
Fun Fact: My father is working in this building!
if you are still in warsaw you should really check out the norblin meeting centre and its lifts
I don't upload a location when I am still there (the internet is not always a nice place and I feel it is too risky). The building you suggested looks interesting, although maybe a bit small compared with the stuff I have been getting up to in Warsaw.
@@benoliftsoh i haven't thought about that. Your wright
SAMSUNG?!?!?!?!?!?!
Woah 😳 that's fast
That is definitely 7 m/s!
Half past midnight - the best time to upload to gain the most revenue 🤣
How did you get into such a posh building?
How do you get in/ out? Im guessing the lift doesnt go full speed when/if you are using the buttons on the top. It has to be called from outside, right?
Can you stop it (lockout) to get out and start it again? Or just home no one calls at that time?
The actions I took with these lifts is due to my level of experience and skill lift surfing and I would not recommend that anyone copies some of the more extreme things I do with lifts.
I got on the lift by disconnecting safety at the right moment. I sent the lift down and timed the moment of when to stop the lift. To make this more complex I had to identify which lift car I was sending down (upper or lower car). Then once I was on the lift the Schindler Miconic logic continues its journey without having to refind position. To get off the lift I waited for it to depart a floor in the downwards direction, but only if nobody had just got out the lift (as they would see me), then I grabbed a roller as it went past as the lift departed the floor. With the very fast speed and acceleration this was a dodgy thing to do. I did not put the lifts into inspection as that may alert security.
@@benolifts thanks for your response. Very insightful. I don't plan on doing this myself, but I find this niche (lift surfing) interesting and love your videos.
Interesting process. So it's all good timing. As I understand "breaking safety" stops the lift immediately. You use this to get on and time it right to get off again. I see how this requires skill and experience with the various logics to know how it will behave.
And dodging security is another challenge on top of that :)
You should get a 360° one day. That would be cool
I had a 360 camera, and I wasn't impressed with the results. The original camera quality wasn't too bad, but the footage had to be encoded so many times by the time it ends up on youtube it has deteriorated. The camera required propriety software to re-encode the video after recording, then vegas rendering re-encodes it, then RUclips re-encodes it. Also the amount of time having to get each video clip set up correctly was a pain. Then once on youtube, the video player's view point is very zoomed in, which makes the video horrid to watch and navigate. 360 videos are best viewed where the user is seeing 180 degrees (so about 50% of the video) at any one time. This allows the viewer to quickly move to where the action is happening and not miss much. But RUclips's 360 video playback only shows around 25% of the video. This means the user has to click a lot more to find the interesting angle to view the video. Also RUclips does not have a good bitrate for 360. With how high the resolution is, and with how zoomed in it is, the low quality bitrate is very noticeable and ruins the 360 experience. I feel that 360 video is not get developed enough for me just yet.
@@benolifts My dreams of riding in a lift with you in a vr headset are ruined!!!
It’s ok maybe one day :)
Samsung has the best phones and the best choice in Lifts
Schindler's Lift. Yeah.
Hahahahahah awesome 😎
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