BMW E36 E34 camshaft & lifter removal and installation
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
- www.mybimmerspa... In this new video, I remove and then re-install the camshafts with a new set of INA lifters on a BMW E36 with a M50tu engine. For those of you, who have been following my videos: I start the camshaft removal process after I removed the upper tensioner & chain guide which you can see at the end of my other video "BMW E36 Vanos & tensioners removal" part 1. Thank you for all of your support
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Man your the only person in the world other than myself I'd let work on my bmw your a perfectionist and I love it very very very helpful for me I'm doing it with you step by step. I'm a newbie when it comes to working on engines but I can tell you get your shit done and you get it done right. As well as doing it really well! I hope your proud of yourself there's not many people out there that take as much pride as people like you in there work honestly a amazing video!
Definitely one of the best camshaft instructions on RUclips.
There are several videos and books explaining this procedure, but your attention to detail is what makes this video the best one hands down. Outstanding job!..Thank you so much. I'm a fan!
If you need to replace valve stem seals, start by this video. Then go I continue with your video about the seals replacement. They never explain how to remove the stuff before accessing the valve springs. Or they do it with timing belt engines.
Excellent video
I decided that I'd comment on your tutorial. It's excellent and very informative. I viewed this particular vid, numerous times due to my exhaust camshaft and A6 bearing cap, both snapped in two pieces. My father, also, a true mechanic (like yourself) wasn't around to hold my hand this time. He can only supervise via text/cell phone. So, with that, I absorbed as much as I could from here. And succeeded. That was two months ago. I commend you on how knowledgeable you have been in your break downs. My father taught me unorthodox techniques. Such as, double-wrenching for torque/leverage. But Iyou, Sir, kuddo's on the earth magnets technique...really innovative and AWESOME!! I can't thank you enough.
Thank's
+mybimmerspace Im rebuilding my m50b25 non vanos engine and i was told that the lifters have to be empty when i install them is that true? Or should i fill them and can they do some kind of damage when they are not filled up when i start the engine?
+TheBoltskii wasn't sure if your question was for me but, I'm almost sure they have to be filled...
MPOSSIBL3, sooo sorry I missed this comment. I really tried to cover every question without having a question and I am floored you succeeded with your build.
im a BMW mec and i have broken 5-6 camshafts and bearing caps as well there is a Tool mounted into the spark plug holes that Works with excentric pressure on the cam still we broke some cams so it is a hard task
You are a very good instructor. You could have your own motor school. Your instructions are very clear and each step can be followed easily. All the way from and American living in Japan. I have to go check out your website now.
The magnet/welder rod technique is Trick! Superb video. Wonderful details like cleaning the vanos port on the intake cam shaft, vacuum filling the lifters and importantly waiting to turn back to TDC depending on ambient temperature. Thank you!
BMW is different isn't it.
i love you tip on priming the new lifters using vac pump
Best "how-to" E36 videos around with great detail and explanation clarity. I have watched all of your videos & have subscribed for future videos! Props*
DylanBB18,Each performance cam manufacture will list a specific spring they want to be used with their camshafts. Mainly because Performance cams require stiffer springs that won't coil bind with the higher lifts. You can run a M3 camshaft with the stock springs but your springs are tired with 170,000 miles on them. You may experience valve float @ 6000 RPM or less. I don't have a video for the springs but you will need shop air, spark plug hole adapter & spring compressor plate to change them.
Thanks for the tips. I like how you use the magnets to prevent the lifer from falling out. I will use that technique. Thanks again!
Your a really excellent mechanic clean, organized, and alot of pride in your work .....good job
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I have an E39 with an M52 engine. Next year I hope I'll get to build my garage so I'll be able to some more serious jobs on my car then what I can do today. I plan a vanos revival with the Beisan kit :)
I'm looking forward to your next video!
James, Yes it's the same procedure although you will find that your camshaft sprockets are not going to be in the same spot as they originally were with the M50 cams. The S50 cams have a different overlap setup so make sure to use the camshaft locking blocks to time the S50 cams and not a straight edge which some people use for the M50 stock cams to save money. Thanks
If you are not reusing the cams you can loosen each bearing cap nut a 1/4 turn to release the cam. There is a chance of camshaft breakage using this method. Good luck with your project thanks, M.B.S.
Phillip, I use a Harbor Freight 1/4" air ratchet for the small hardware and a Milwaukee 3/8" ratchet for the larger hardware. My original 1/4 air ratchet was giving me some trouble so I gave Harbor Freight a try and so far its been holding up to a lot of abuse. Milwaukee and Snap On have been my favorite but as much wrenching as I do I eventually ware out any brand tool.
Cosmin Rotaru, Continued.. So to answer your question the safest way would be to tie the string off to the car so it keeps tension on the chain at all times (wheel spoke works good). If the chain skips a tooth there is no damage that can occur while rotating the engine back to Top Dead Center because the Exhaust sprocket is not secured to the cam yet. I know this is a bit of a long post but I wanted to express as much info about this subject since it's a great question you asked. Thanks M.B.S.
Josh Blankeship, Mainly checking piston to valve clearance and coil bind on the springs. Aftermarket cams may even require a higher spring rate. The camshaft manufacture should be able to point you in the right direction.
Wow this is a lot more work than I expected xD
Eugenio Cruz, if you have a manual transmission make sure its in neutral otherwise make sure your cams are back to top dead center with the timing blocks in before you rotate the crank back to top dead center.
your videos have helped me a ton I currently have an m50 with bad head gasket and an s52 with the same problem. watched your videos a ton and tore the m50 down. As soon as the head comes back from the machine shop I need to torque it back on and it would help if you could do a video on replacing the locating dowels and the torque procedure for head bolts or even head studs
after watching your video i can see why you have so many views. excellent
SunsetWingman, I wish it was that easy but the cam trays have a ridge that prevents the lifters from being removed from the top.
Cosmin Rotaru, it's rare but if it does skip a tooth on the lower crank sprocket the worse outcome would be that you would have to re-clock the exhaust sprocket after the engine is rotated back to Top Dead Center which I explained at the end of the video but for other reasons (building an engine from scratch) Another possibility is the Ex sprocket won't fit back on do to the chain hanging up on the lower sprocket. If that happens, whipping the chain will release it from the lower sprocket.
absolutely love it. was really looking forward to using your magnet technique but learned that at no time ever should there be a magnet near a lifter as it magnetizes the lifter just enough that it will hold on to magnetic debris... just a thought.... I learned this from my local machine shop, it is my understanding that he was qouting directly from some sort of automotive engineers association of some sort. just my 2 cents. thanks you for your efforts
I relly like the vacuum pump and lifter trick great tutorial man 🖒
Thanks so much for posting this video. It was very helpful on my project.
S Vi, Thanks! I have other videos containing a few other projects that are not finalized yet. Although I'm working on completing them.
Good job...can't see how people watch and thumbs down on a vid-manual that you would have to sit down to read in spec details...that's crazy
awestphaol6, No, there is only one tdc pin lock on the flywheel for lobes facing each other. Sometimes it can feel like it locks in other positions but you need to confirm with tdc mark on the damper. Good luck, thanks
I saw how you used the vacuum pump to preload the lifters. I had to replace my cylinder head and I am using the same lifters as before. Would I need to preload them? - Thanks.
What should I do? I Massed up the timing on my s52, my cams don't line up the way they should at tdc. Thanks
DaytonCarCare, the master link re-chain kits are not as reliable as the oem chains unless you are using a chain that requires a crimping tool. If replacing the with a factory fixed chain you will have to remove the lower timing case cover which includes removing the 300 ft lbs bolt that holds the lower sprocket to the crank, very involved job,need 3 foot breaker bar and crankshaft holding tool to loosen the main crank bolt. BMW tries to remove the case without removing cylinder head if possible
super clean motor, you are a good mechanic!
Hello , your videos are great , very proper and clear! . I have a 1998 BMW 328i 6 cylinder, auto. I am at the part where you turn the camshaft to get the lobes lined up with the e7 cap, the camshaft is about a quarter turn away but its very tight feeling , and i dont want to break it ! any advice would be much appreciated ,thx
Great vid. Can a bad lifter cause no compression on a cylinder, forcing valve to stay open? I can push the lifter down with little effort, I hope I dont have to take the head off. I have an M54
Very proper video with great explanation.
Good to hear that from you!
This guy is first and goal. the truth
You are awesome Sauce thank you for your time and videos are very informative
just here to say that trick with the magnets on the lifters and the rod to hold them all up and attached to the cam is really damn clever. It's probably an old trick, but still
Thanks, I actually found that the bigger the diameter the magnet is the better or easier it is to remove them. I also talked to another BMW tech that said they do not use suction cups; it looks like I was on the right track. These M50 engines take a little more to build but they are like tanks with 32 MPG.
mybimmerspace
indeed, the power potential per dollar is pretty staggering considering the displacement, not to mention they're pretty reliable in general. it's just that damn cooling system!
I know, the plastic cooling system parts are not all that durable. I replace the plastic type radiators after 7 years... not ifs or buts about it. ; back in 2003 i had 2 oem thermostats go out with in one year...bad batch? The first bmw thermostat failed in the closed position and over heated, the second stat went out int the open position keeping the DME from going into Closed Loop operation; causing a rich condition and excessive fuel consumption. The dealer bagged it and sent it Whaler for inspection. Never seen that problem since.
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Great video. Attention to detail. Thank you for sharing
hi bimmer when are going to upload more video? have you ever done a dual vanos job?
Just looking this over, if my hydraulic lifters goes I still have to do all of this just for one lifter going? Thanks for your time.
Did you use the Crank Lock Pin or is it enough to go by the OT marks ? thanks for that video and the passion !
Yes, It's the same hollow cam with bigger lift and duration
Hey would your car say low oil pressure because of this
Can this be done exactly the same way on the exhaust cam, or is it different? Thanks, Shane
So it takes longer if I am swapping cams, but I wont damage the bearings or caps? That is still better tahan buying the camshaft hold down tool!
When I removed my head I found it unnecessary to remove the sprocket from the chain, the head slid around the chain and sprocket assembly quite easily, no chain disassembly necessary. Excellent video overall I must say. The technique used to replace the head is spot on, the $500 BMW tool to install or remove the head is NOT necessary if you follow the procedure detailed in this video.
It didn't come off the crank when you dropped it down the case? I know you have the string but looks like no tension on it.
If I decide to ever change the cams in my car, I am sure I would need new bearings since it is a different style camshaft. Is it really important to hold the cam down since it would be discarded anyway?
Amazing job,may I ask a question that I can't figure with my m50.. I have marvels in can sound going up hill or certain revs in any gear,doesn't happen revving it stationary just under slight load? Thanks again for sharing
Awesome video! Very informative, thanks!
I heard of stripped cam studs when torque to 11 ft lb. Did you ever had that issue? Is it possible to tighten those with lower torque? Thanks
Nice tutorial, very infromative!
Great video. I'm looking for info on the magnets.Does anyone know the spec or size needed to remove lifters?
great work. thx for sharing was nice advise for my 528i cam shift
what should a job like that cost if you dont feel confident enough to do it yourself?
excellent video by the way!!
1500-2000
Hi! My engine got metal shavings inside the exhaust camshaft, ant the plastic plug in the front end was popped out. Do the exhaust camshaft also have oil orifices? Wonder how the shavings got in there...
As far as I know there is no oil feed on the exhaust cam for single vanos engines. Maybe oil filter at some point let contaminated oil through at some point?
mybimmerspace, my 99 M3 S52 blew a head gasket. I've replaced the head gasket and nearly had everything buttoned up. After doing a few final rotations, there are some resistance. The crank will turn smoothly at one point, but will require me to use a little more muscle when I continue to rotate the crank. Looking back on my memory log I missed a step with turning the sprockets clockwise to fit the vanos on... I went counterclockwise to fit it on, will this effect the timing. Please advise if you still check your comment. Thanks. All the best, [KIN].
P.S. When I get to the resistance part by hand cranking, my ratchet will hop counterclockwise very slightly, and then I can continue to crank.
if i wanted to upgrade my camshafts to performance cams, would i have to change the valve springs and lifters, only due to that it had 170,000 miles on it.? (high milege wise).....if so do you have a valve replacment video? car: e36 328i m52 engine.
is it possible for the chain to come loose when it get drop like that? If it did, the head would need to come off and re-time the long block right??
why did you take the chain off the other cam sprocket when it wasnt the one getting removed?
Hello Mr Mybimmerspace !
Thank You so much , for your so many great video , information .
I love it , Its verry informative . I have a question abaut my BMW .
Litle by litle I vent true my BMW 528 i - 1998 cylinder head job . E39
The head is rebuilt - resurfaced , and installed .
My question is - If the crankshaft allredy turn 16 degree back , like Your video say ,
and I vant to installing the camshaft , I start vith the exhaust first .
Need to tighting camshaft , No # 1 cylinder , first lobes facing down ?
Like later the intake camsaft istallation ?
Of corse , later positioned turn both camsaft , opper lobes face up , close to 45 degree , face up each other ,
Installing - cam holder tools . Turn cranchsaft back to TDC .
Thank You so much retired mercedes tecnition . Kalman
Yea actually I used a 25" breaker with the same length cheater bar over it to get it off and torque on. Had to remove the crank bolt too, on a 400E Mercedes V8 to get access to replace the water pump. Fortunately there is a trick to lock the flywheel front moving. It doesn't have a locking hole like the BMW. You need a special tool to lock the flywheel.
How do you install new chains? Is there room to slide it through over the crank sprocket or would you need a chain breaker to pop out a link pin to get it in?
if camshafts at tdc without vanos and i rotate intake shaft backwords like you did on video what happens
Great video, but when you were slowly taking off that 2nd E cam bearing cap, did you know that you don't have to make the socket wrench ratchet back after you turn it? That bothered me so much lol
Can You change one bearing cap without having to do the entire process again?
would this be the same on an e46? I will be doing my head gasket and this video would help out a lot.
I'll be doing a .140 headgasket soon on my turbo e36 m3 project with stock s50 cams. Is it necessary to replace the lifters?
Would this be the same as my e92. I have a bad lifter tick and can not find anything on it
Excellent job man! I've learned a ton of info. I do have a question.
I just pulled out my cams from M54 and there is a decent amount of small metal pieces especially on the cam holding "ears" and cam has groves were it sits on housing. As for cam lobes the are almost mint. And also there are noticeable scratches on the lifter outer surface, all of them. Any ideas were I got this metal from?
180K on dash and about 160 an average compression.
Does the 11ftlb torque for the camshaft caps also apply to an m52 engine? Also, what happens if you wait longer to crank the engine after the required wait period for the camshaft? Is replacing the lifters necessary?
THANKS, i really liked the video. From here u can remove valve seals right?
Yes, just need to apply about 100 psi of air pressure trough spark plug hole with special adapter. This will keep your intake and exhaust valves seated for one that one cylinder. After you are done with that one cylinder you would then move your air supply fitting over to the next cylinder to service the next set of valve seals. 1,2,3,4,5,6 Four valves per cylinder. They make a fitting that you can use for checking cylinder compression and also use it to hook up shop air. Just thread it into spark plug hole and connect air hose to it. Shoot for 100 psi and try to get the piston at TDC OR BDC so it does not try and rock on you once you pressurize it. The crankshaft will what to move if the piston has any force behind it.. the crankshaft is less likely to rotate if piston is at the very top or bottom of its stroke.
dude you're awesome. Thanks for the video you ROCK!!!
Great video. Not brazing rod, that would be brass. That's copper plated welding rod which is steel.
video highlights the real importance of clean fresh eng oil
You forgot to mention which direction should the lifters oil holes be pointing towards..??
Hello. So i have been doing a head rebuild on my 1993 325i and i am trying to get the crank back to TDC but it is stuck or something. I removed the lock pin. Im not to surre whats wrong. Have any advice?
FIrst I want to thank you for this AWESOME video. I was hell bent on s50 cams, now I know I can use s52 cams easiely too. Someone was speaking of springs. I am wondering if the hotter s52 cams (and treys) are safe to use in the m50 (as far as you have seen) or should I go back to s50 cams? I was thinking regrind at delta cams in tacoma any way.
Do you have any video on e36 head cylinder torque
m40/m43 is the same way to open and overhaul just like u did?
Hey Dude, slightly change the subject, I've been told I can swap e36 m3 evo cams into my e36 323i (2.5) is this in your opinion true?
I have a book 101 Performance Projects for your BMW 3 series 1982 - 2000.
This book does in fact have a project that does this. Only the example given is an m50 e36 and not an m52. Now the book does not say the m52 can or cannot be modded. Also the book just swaps the cams straight out and has no other engine adjustments to facilitate the swap. Does this sound right to you?
Can you point me to a resourse if you know of one, and can you either way tell me if I can buy some secondhand evo cams and swap them out?
Thanks dude, love all your videos. I was able to without refering back to the video change out my front wheel bearings. I have only ever changed oil and filters before. So thanks man, saved me a tonne of cash. And I now have some awesome tools.
Your vids are educational level quality. Please keep them comming.
Cheers, Steve
Very nice video, again.
One question, though: when you hang the chain by that string, how do you make sure it will not jump a tooth down there... somewhere? :)
thank you for all the help
Is this the same as a m52 engine for the camshaft section? It looks very similar. Also doing a vanos elimination does that make a difference?
how do you retime the camshaft that was removed?
im new to this. is this install the same for my s52
What steps would be different for aftermarket cams?
Anyone knows the part number & place to buy camshaft kits for 1986 BMW 735i (E23)?
MBS, thanks so much for your video. I'm in the process of pulling the head on a 95 E36 M3. This is awesome and super helpful. Quick Question. Who makes the two air ratchets you use in the video? I really like the paddle trigger on the ratchet at 8:40.
mybimmerspace, will i run into any issues with the preload of s52 cams in a m52 motor with m52 cam trays?
hey im wanting to swap my m50 cams with s50 cams will this method work?
Thanks for your videos!
How do you get the camshafts to TDC? just rotate them until the two front ones are facing each other?
is the piston what u need to tdc, rotate the crankshaf until number one piston camshaft are facing outwards, you should have a mark on your crankshaft pulley when piston is a tdc
is the piston what u need to tdc, rotate the crankshaf until number one piston camshaft are facing outwards, you should have a mark on your crankshaft pulley when piston is a tdc
Yes, you rotate the cams only after you lower all the pistons around 16mm. The cams have around 10-11 millimeter lift so you don't want the pistons any higher than that. If you have an aftermarket cam with more cam lift then you will have to adjust for that as well. Once both intake and exhaust cylinder #1 camshafts lobes are facing each other you will want to confirm that the 2 dots on the back of the camshaft are facing straight up....fire wall side of the engine. In the video I left the camshaft locking plates in just to show the the cams were positioned at Top Dead Center to eliminate any confusion. Off camera I just point both cylinder #1 intake & exhaust camshaft lobes toward each other and make sure dots on camshaft are facing up: then I lower pistons with crankshaft bolt counterclockwise with breaker bar as noted in video.
they have 2 dots that are faceing up but racing cams dont have it you use a pin into the flywheel to find TDC or OT
there is 2 holes in aus cam and 2 holes in ein cam when you look at the rear end
Same procedure on the s52 cams?
what do you do if you have twin vanos?
thanks for that vid btw
Upgrade to M52 Engine but you will lose OBD1 computer unless you can find an awesome ECU tuner.
thanks i mean if you have a twin vanos car and you want to take the cams out, how do you set them when you put them back in!
Olá amigo, qual é o torque de aperto desse cabeçote? obrigado.
Wow this is really good
I don't even own a e36 lol or a car hahah love to learn this stuff do
Antonio Reyes, Sometimes I find myself doing the same thing. Take care
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