Right... most times people type nasty shit in chat you either think not their best day or complete idiot. But I looked at that typed chat and after that game I think that was a measured response.
That first game was the most devastatingly one sided massacre I've ever seen at this level! There was absolutely no point in this game the opponent made ANY real progress. It looked so painful to be them the whole game. EVERY SINGLE MOVE was just crushingly frustrating... WOW!
He already did but with the additional challenge of having to win* within 6 minutes. *later got relaxed to final attack within 6 mins, no more mining after that. Mainly because a totally winning position without enemy surrendering would be a technical loss on original rules & it needed a way to accomodate no-surrenders.
One way to work on specific matchups is to practice it from the other side, it helps to learn the timings or counters by trying to run things from their side. My TvZ got better when I started playing more ZvT!
@@TheSuperappelflap along with learning English making his command of the language such that he can fluidly commentate while perfectly micro/macroing. I broke my arm cycling in the Netherlands (despite it being flat) as a kid in the 90's, I still hold all Dutch responsible including Marc, bastard broke my arm :P
@@beardedchimp Yeah and the Germans still owe me a bicycle evem though I actually inherited my grandfathers bicycle. English is quite easy to learn for us Dutchies, I was fluent in it by age 12. All our tv shows, movies, video games, half the books and all the advertisements were in English. Most had subtitles, except for the books, obviously. I was reading along with mr. David Attenborough narrating National Geographic documentaries when I was six. And this was before the internet or social media. Although I did learn a lot of English names for fish when I played Runescape.
@@TheSuperappelflap what I find fascinating about Dutch English is that you'll speak to one and they have a clearly UK+Ireland inspired accent, then 10 mins later hear another with a thick American accent. From my understanding, the English media and teachers have a big impact. If you grew up listening to David Attenborough, watching Monty Python and/or had a teacher who studied here you'll have some amalgamation of our accents. About a decade ago I was visiting an old Northern Irish family friend in Morocco. He had taught English to this local man he had befriended. His accent was amazingly Norn Irish, he could understand my family perfectly but struggled with my English girlfriend hahahaha.
What the hell was Game 2?! Absolute masterclass in use of cloaked units. Glad to see you brought back a bit of that old Ghost to GM at the end; the scouring of enemy bases with nuclear fire was nostalgically delicious to watch haha. GGWP!!!
I don't play starcraft but I love watching your content. It's rare to see someone who clearly enjoys playing and experimenting in a game so thoroughly. Most game content creators get very caught up in trying to win and seem to forget why they're there in the first place.
I can sympathise with Thermie's desire to actually enjoy the game with crazy strats and so forth. The main reason my SC2 game was terrible is that *i really like to watch the fights* , I'd hate having to just give an order and move away to inject or build depots or whatever, *i wanna watch the boys go in guns blazing!*
@uThermal Do you know the channel that covered Home Story Cup this year? I know you'd like to stay retired but I really enjoy watching you play. I'd like to watch your games with the other pros cuz you're still a pro in my book.
There's one thing that always bothered me. The whole pro-player scene avoids using any static defenses at all cost. I understand the arguments, but I think that in time it turned to a "not use static defenses at all". If the Protoss player in the first game placed two photon cannons guarding the probes, almost the whole early-game shenanigans wouldn't do him any harm. Even if we justify not placing a photon cannon because not knowing of uThermal's tactic, then he definitely should have done that after the first mine. I'm often playing reaper shenanigans (4 reapers before 3:00). It really often happens that Protosses get obliterated by such a simple attack, because 4 reapers microed are enough to kill a stalker (let alone zealot and adept) and if only allowed near mineral line, they wreak havoc. If the Protoss player places a single photon cannon in his base, I'm out of luck, the only thing I can do is poke and prod at the farthest-laying buildings.
They don't avoid it at all cost; they avoid building it if it is possible to skip it without taking too much damage. In the cases of emergencies like playing against all-ins and cheeses, pros generally do build a couple of defenses to defend. The issue with building static defense is that it slows your build a lot while not providing pressure. Lets take the first game for example. If barcode wanted to build cannons the moment he realized that there were cloaked mines, he would first have to build a forge. Which means that he wouldn't have money to build a stalker. And then for each cannon that he build, he could have built a stalker instead. In the end, he would have traded ~3 stalkers for 2 cannons, which can't move to defend weak points in the defense, and in the event that the defense is successful, cannot threaten a counter attack.
Yes actually, 2 cannons would’ve absolutely dead stopped that attack. Obs and stalkers in place wouldve done the job anyway though, no need to spend money on static D
People get so twisted when they play terrible or lack any technical skillz at all... too bad the petulant children can't see the genius of uT like we do =)))
“I wouldn’t consider myself a pro…” says guy that receives compensation from people watching him do something against the top 200 players in the world at something…
uThermal I think I got one of the best nukes in history, a trap with a mule. I'm your fan, if you're interested I'll send you a replay of this great work
its not fake account, its anonymous. since you cant spell their name, its impossible to look them up and also impossible to differentiate them from any other barcode players.
bro he plays non optimal builds, also look how much extertainment people are getting, thousands of people are getting regular joy from watching his vids, and only a handful of his enemies are maybe getting a little salty, good trade off.
Dang man, I really do love your content. Thank you so much for making these. You are absolutely the highlights of my day when you upload.
No idea why uT doesn't have 500k or more subs by now... very charismatic and multi-talented. (imho)
LOVE that you finally brought up your free Raven. I've screamed at my screen way too many games you "forgot" to get one
This man is single handedly providing me my eating lunch videos
same here
OMG I can feel the pain of the Protoss in the first game.
Right... most times people type nasty shit in chat you either think not their best day or complete idiot. But I looked at that typed chat and after that game I think that was a measured response.
man got flayed
i gave you the 69th like
Nice job! Probably made that guy quit! Absolutely love abusing lowbies!
Guy had robo and he didn't make obs after that many banshees?
That first game was the most devastatingly one sided massacre I've ever seen at this level! There was absolutely no point in this game the opponent made ANY real progress. It looked so painful to be them the whole game. EVERY SINGLE MOVE was just crushingly frustrating... WOW!
The Protoss player uninstalled the game after you killed all his probes and went back to playing solitaire.
"die" - llIlIIl||
And just like the 4 widow mines he didn't see, he's gonna lose to the 4 aces he'll never get.
Love this series, so funny to watch. Plz never stop making them
I wanna see you do a Random Cheese to GM. A cheese opening every game with your race set to Random.
Think he did that, maybe on 2nd channel ?
@@Ty-bz7zx
iirc no series to gm
He did do it.
He already did but with the additional challenge of having to win* within 6 minutes.
*later got relaxed to final attack within 6 mins, no more mining after that. Mainly because a totally winning position without enemy surrendering would be a technical loss on original rules & it needed a way to accomodate no-surrenders.
ruclips.net/p/PLhaCXeA_nfD1foYlQ_HM5DSQvXGZD95xG&si=_SHXx_hcRFTFd3bP
As a former protoss/Zerg player (I don't play ladder anymore at all), I really appreciate you learning the other races more and cycling.
One way to work on specific matchups is to practice it from the other side, it helps to learn the timings or counters by trying to run things from their side. My TvZ got better when I started playing more ZvT!
Marc is Dutch, Im sure he has been cycling since he was like 3 years old
@@TheSuperappelflap along with learning English making his command of the language such that he can fluidly commentate while perfectly micro/macroing. I broke my arm cycling in the Netherlands (despite it being flat) as a kid in the 90's, I still hold all Dutch responsible including Marc, bastard broke my arm :P
@@beardedchimp Yeah and the Germans still owe me a bicycle evem though I actually inherited my grandfathers bicycle.
English is quite easy to learn for us Dutchies, I was fluent in it by age 12. All our tv shows, movies, video games, half the books and all the advertisements were in English. Most had subtitles, except for the books, obviously. I was reading along with mr. David Attenborough narrating National Geographic documentaries when I was six. And this was before the internet or social media. Although I did learn a lot of English names for fish when I played Runescape.
@@TheSuperappelflap what I find fascinating about Dutch English is that you'll speak to one and they have a clearly UK+Ireland inspired accent, then 10 mins later hear another with a thick American accent.
From my understanding, the English media and teachers have a big impact. If you grew up listening to David Attenborough, watching Monty Python and/or had a teacher who studied here you'll have some amalgamation of our accents.
About a decade ago I was visiting an old Northern Irish family friend in Morocco. He had taught English to this local man he had befriended. His accent was amazingly Norn Irish, he could understand my family perfectly but struggled with my English girlfriend hahahaha.
I can feel the pain of the Protoss in the first game.
yea getting smurfed on is the most miserable experience you can have while playing starcraft
Wym smurfed, he’s a grandmaster
@@ivanpetrenko6575 Hes a 4.9k player getting smurfed on by a former pro? Why do you think hes doing these challenges on smurf accounts?
It was like bro.. Then it was like Bru... then it was BRUH!!!!!!!!!
I felt physical pain watching that first game.
@@ivanpetrenko6575 Dont feed the trolls. esp the ones that clearly breath through their mouths.
Came back recently to sc2 after 7 years of never playing, love watching but I get so anxious playing 1v1 lol.
Been playing csgo for the past 8 years
anxious in a game? You must have a Peace, joy and pancakes life
good time to stop cs, cs2 sucks
I thought we learned the secret to absolute dominance in cheese builds was building 26 CCs. That's the ticket.
What the hell was Game 2?! Absolute masterclass in use of cloaked units. Glad to see you brought back a bit of that old Ghost to GM at the end; the scouring of enemy bases with nuclear fire was nostalgically delicious to watch haha. GGWP!!!
I don't play starcraft but I love watching your content. It's rare to see someone who clearly enjoys playing and experimenting in a game so thoroughly. Most game content creators get very caught up in trying to win and seem to forget why they're there in the first place.
OMG when u hid ur widows under ur widows i was laughing sooo hard
Snipe the Overlord to show dominance 🤣
5.5k zerg vs Thermy mass ghost, when I see that on the pre-screen I already feel sorry for the Zerg
With this many Orbitals, there wasn't even a point to the Raven except for that one armor missile.
Legendary 5 CC set up against zerg is great
Zero probes and 65 minerals my boy was MAD MAD
Dude, thanks for the great content! I bet they’d pay you to put on a MasterClass, and I’d pay for it just to watch all of your greatest hits, haha. 🎉
These guys start an early cheese harass, get a cheese harass back, and throw a fit. Incredible.
I can sympathise with Thermie's desire to actually enjoy the game with crazy strats and so forth. The main reason my SC2 game was terrible is that *i really like to watch the fights* , I'd hate having to just give an order and move away to inject or build depots or whatever, *i wanna watch the boys go in guns blazing!*
these games were so fun to watch. Thanks for the content!
I don’t play StarCraft, maybe played 10 years ago but still love every single episode
>Builds raven to help with creep
>Scans ground to clear creep anyway
That first Widowmine in game 1 had 10 kills... one shot
Reminds me of a Ketroc clip of a 32 probe kill widow mine hit
ruclips.net/video/CPXktYt9rwg/видео.html
The Banshee follow-up was just crushing
@uThermal
For me you are the best player in the entire world, even without the world champion title!
I think uThermal is having too much fun in this episode and so am I haha
@uThermal Do you know the channel that covered Home Story Cup this year? I know you'd like to stay retired but I really enjoy watching you play. I'd like to watch your games with the other pros cuz you're still a pro in my book.
What about Marc v. 2xGM's (or masters) in archon mode?
Total domination in the last game
No sweat
Mines and banshees can do work, but the ghost truly is a monstrous unit. O_o
Finally the anit-creep anti-observer raven!
That first game was insane!!! That was so cool!
There's one thing that always bothered me. The whole pro-player scene avoids using any static defenses at all cost. I understand the arguments, but I think that in time it turned to a "not use static defenses at all". If the Protoss player in the first game placed two photon cannons guarding the probes, almost the whole early-game shenanigans wouldn't do him any harm. Even if we justify not placing a photon cannon because not knowing of uThermal's tactic, then he definitely should have done that after the first mine.
I'm often playing reaper shenanigans (4 reapers before 3:00). It really often happens that Protosses get obliterated by such a simple attack, because 4 reapers microed are enough to kill a stalker (let alone zealot and adept) and if only allowed near mineral line, they wreak havoc. If the Protoss player places a single photon cannon in his base, I'm out of luck, the only thing I can do is poke and prod at the farthest-laying buildings.
They don't avoid it at all cost; they avoid building it if it is possible to skip it without taking too much damage. In the cases of emergencies like playing against all-ins and cheeses, pros generally do build a couple of defenses to defend. The issue with building static defense is that it slows your build a lot while not providing pressure.
Lets take the first game for example. If barcode wanted to build cannons the moment he realized that there were cloaked mines, he would first have to build a forge. Which means that he wouldn't have money to build a stalker. And then for each cannon that he build, he could have built a stalker instead. In the end, he would have traded ~3 stalkers for 2 cannons, which can't move to defend weak points in the defense, and in the event that the defense is successful, cannot threaten a counter attack.
15:13 MIND GAMES
The last game was really clean, liked the 5 nuke setup, always was wondering why you had so few nukes if it's the only way to win.
That last game was clean brother
I really love the big macro Cloaked games, they're the only games really worth watching on your channel.
Marks happiness comes from the tears of his defeated opponents.
Now I really want you to do the same strat but plz do make the Thor in their base 😂 I’ve def never seen that lol that would be awesome
Still remember when ZhuGeLiang took out soo in nation wars finals.
i like how this challenge just becomes ghost to grand master duration of the game :D
great last game against zerg Termy, awesome entertaining content, TY 🙏🙏
I may have missed it but you need building armor with that many pfs!
Thanks for the cloaking and nuking fun! ^^
Would a good defense against your 1st game be cannons?
observers don't have a cooldown on detection
Yes actually, 2 cannons would’ve absolutely dead stopped that attack.
Obs and stalkers in place wouldve done the job anyway though, no need to spend money on static D
If you want chaos you should play Florencio!
😂 totally owned salty barcode. “Die”. Nice Romance of the seven kingdoms reference in game 2.
At 26:29, why not just snipe the overseers? If those ghost are gonna be left to die, might as well take some with them.
Reasons
Why is there a raven in your army?
Bar Code Protoss raging lol
"die"
why don't you put ghost academys on 7, 8 or 9? I personally put them on 0 and click on it because I can't reach the 0
The challenge is hard enough, you should always allow yourself the raven.
People get so twisted when they play terrible or lack any technical skillz at all... too bad the petulant children can't see the genius of uT like we do =)))
First guy was really cool, he let you kill the last one before quitting
He just wanted to show you he saw the minies before firing
Game one man, savagery
"longest macro game ever, unless.."
Me: sees there's 6min left of the video 🤔
Love ur content :)
Zerg was clearly not a scrub. This was too strong. Ban cloaking.
Good stuff
That's why we said you should built Ravens.
Barcode salt has the most refined flavoring 👌🏽
This is just what happens when you add a single Raven to this build
Most of your opponents can't handle 30 minutes of chaos lmao.
last game was a blast!
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Please do make a Thor in opponents main 😂
“I wouldn’t consider myself a pro…” says guy that receives compensation from people watching him do something against the top 200 players in the world at something…
uThermal I think I got one of the best nukes in history, a trap with a mule. I'm your fan, if you're interested I'll send you a replay of this great work
all account name llllllll is fake account?
its not fake account, its anonymous. since you cant spell their name, its impossible to look them up and also impossible to differentiate them from any other barcode players.
Love it
Let's go
First game the guy was so lost
The off meta strats would do better in pro play than you think
Viper for catching mines😅
Art
Simply, die! Hahaha. Losing all your probes might be a bit tilting.
LOL 60 probes dead in 7 min. Insane!
i like watching your videos and pretending like I know what is going on.
Complete pwnage!
PIG has a video with Florencio the sewer mermaid where they do an instant base swap. It is pretty close to the perfect game of SC2.
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Finland!!!
LOL he wanted nothing to do with this BS, not even gonna try.
lol "Die" . You know a build works when...
I don't mind u smurfing for these challenges but why say "only 5 mmr difference, couldn't be a more close match"
I hate ghosts vs me😁
#SaltMine
For the algo!
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in the first game when player said die i just get out and ban him thats my anger in sc2 but i am not doing it on you.
Man you would be soo annoying to ply against haha
:)
Stop playing with your food
I dont really understand why we celebrate a former pro smurfing on the ladder. Of course he is going to win, and the other players are not having fun.
Where would it be appropriate for him to play? His 2nd opponent this game had 5.5k mmr. What part of that is smurfing?!
Thats a good point, I didnt think of it that way@@PeterMcNeill-o7n
bro he plays non optimal builds, also look how much extertainment people are getting, thousands of people are getting regular joy from watching his vids, and only a handful of his enemies are maybe getting a little salty, good trade off.
Least agro Protoss Player
6:05 he could have split the banchee with more mana south to avoid revlation and ended the game 😀