You know that feeling when someone perfectly expresses something you've been feeling. Louie saying "if somebody loves a movie then it's a great movie" was borderline cathartic to me, wow I'm gay
Very very seriously. Can we not bring down men who ask for consent please? Pretty obvious by all his standup that he has kinks. You have every right to say “no.” In my opinion, you lost the battle the second you said “yes.” Let us not drag our funniest people for being human
3:00 “Somebody likes it, it makes it good” Best freakin attitude to have about ANYTHING. Just having the humility to say “I don’t get it, but that doesn’t make me right”
True, but just because I like it that doesn't make me right either. I have liked stuff that I now dislike, after having learned more (movies, music, books...). I believe there's a role for personal taste, but the more you know, the better your judgement is. Understanding that you may like something because you don't know any better is also important humility.
Yep. I never read comic books or watched Cartoons when I was a kid, apart from South Park, Simpsons, Family guy etc. I figured out pretty late that that was the reason I had no interest in Marvel films.
I thought they were in the same universe. De Niro's character is Rupert Pupkin from King of Comedy and he succeeded Jerry Lewis on the talk show. Joker was karma catching up with him.
Joker was nothing like the king of comedy. People keep saying this to sound hip or in the know. But they’re obviously two completely different concepts.
I'm so glad Louie feels the same way about Joaquin's performances in The Master and The Joker. He's definitely good in the latter and not overrated at all, but he was great in The Master.
@A Z so bc he likes one bad movie and “doesn’t appreciate the finer things in life” whatever the fuck that means which I’m sure you do genius he’s basically dumb nice
@A Z acting like you understand the finer things in life while joker is just the king of comedy and taxi driver but worse and not utilizing joaquins talent at all. jokers dialogue sounds like it was written by a 14 year old on reddit.
@@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv His standup is still mediocre as hell. Who cares what this dude has to say? Just another propped up celebrity hack. He's BORING
Bill likes to call people out and have people look at him as he is moraly superior to others. I also don't think he would open himself up to the criticism of being associated with Louis. I personally don't judge Louis and think he is hilarious.
@@maxis2778 It's a pretty obvious speculation with today's climate dude. If you're someone like Bill Burr with a show on Disney, could you imagine the reaction he'd get if he associated with one of the big names from the me too movement? I can tell you exactly what would happen: 1.internet babies would cry about it, 2.Disney would listen to internet babies and fire him, 3.his career in Hollywood would be over. Bill's a great standup, but at this point he'll do what it takes to fit in with the establishment
YES! I COMPLETELY agree with him! That’s exactly what I thought. The Joker was just the same character he played in The Master, but lesser. His performance in The Master was unbelievable. The Joker was just a superficial mental illness movie.
Two totally different sorts of movies other than them both having mental illness but even than it's two different types of characters. One character is more timid and shy while the other character is more idiotic and abrasive. Both are great movies though.
Yeah. Quinton didn't like it either except for that one part where the joker in his opinion "subverts the actual audience" that's watching the film in that one scene. I personally didn't like any of it.
Because todd phillips wrote the character for joaquin and was probably amazed by his performance in the master, also joaquin said something along the lines of 'a good performance is in the directors hand'
Everyone except the actors and directors take marvel movies way seriously then they should be taken. Its just a live action childhood dream fully realized. Alot of marvel movies do pander to kids but when they try, I think they hit the nail on the head. Scorsese was right but all of his "fans" are pretentious as fuck lol. Let people like dumb, colorful movies.
Thank you Lee it's like we're not allowed to like things anymore and when we like them we get criticized and bashed for it because we're supposed to be above them fuck you if you think your above something or someone
"someone else likes it, it makes it good." It takes such a level of maturity to realise this on an intuitive level where you aren't just saying it to be "fair".
If that’s true, then it means there’s literally no such thing as a bad movie, right? Because think about it, you could pick the shittiest, most awful movie ever made, and you’ll still be able to find someone out there who loves it lol.
He's done 2 of these podcasts on Joe Lists RUclips chanel. (Comedian who's opened for him) They talked about Kurbick movies and another recently on PTA movies.
Joker is a good movie but it just became overrated and the younger fans don't seem to know that it took from better movies like Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy.
@@ollysombrero8427 When he hosted the multi-hour Opie and Anthony show, it turned into more of a sad advice show, though it did lead to some of his standup bits. It would be interesting to see if things changed or if he would have guests on and keep it more up beat and funny.
I think the worst thing about the Joker is that it had to do with Batman. It should have just been a movie called "Arthur" or something about a crazy guy going crazy. I would have preferred it more.
@@55jemmz5 he has an older bit about adopting dogs. And how vets will prescribe medications for dogs to keep them calm. Which led to him making a joke about buying heroin for his dog that cost him 400 dollars a day.
The Master is a great movie. Didn't think much of it first viewing, but after multiple views its now the best Paul Thomas Anderson movie for me. Amazing performance by Phoenix. In my opinion his character is the titular "Master". The heroic, tragic lost soul/free spirit who is the true master of his own destiny.
I liked the Joker, but later saw Taxi Driver and realised it was the same movie as Joker but better. I know this was a homage and not a rip-off, but it feels like a homage should add a bit more to the story in question, or make it fit in todays society better. It just didn't.
The only issue I have with this take is that there are thousands of people who enjoy the comic based movies because they spent their loves collecting and appreciating these characters and stories. It isn't always incels in their basements. It's dismissive and generalizing.
Wrestlemania-style all-star battle royales KILLED THE GOLDEN AGE OF COMICS. Amd now theyre doing it to comic book movies. There were decades of stories left to rot because the next movie has to be bigger.
People feel compelled to say they like Joker the same way vaccinated people feel compelled to wear masks outside. It doesn't make any sense, but they don't want to be attacked by rage mobs.
@@SMokeUCantHandle many folks liked Joker because it passed off white liberals. I’ve seen liberals so angry at the movie joker and I’m like ‘Get a Life!’
True. PTA also wanted to work w/ Adam Sandler for Punch-Drunk Love and Sandler is notoriously known to make bad movies (I however, love his earlier ones). Why don't they criticize PTA for that for his personal taste?
@We Back yep, I think loui was being a bit of a snob here. Had it not been a super hero movie he'd love it. Although I will say the master is a far better film and 100% Joaquin Phoenix should have won Oscar's for it. Honestly the entire film deserves multiple Oscar's. Philip Seymour hoffman was brilliant in it as well
Holy shit. HE ABSOLUTELY NAILS my problem with Marvel movies too. Let the heroes be fuckin cool!!! I hate how they force comedy into the Avengers movies.
@@zakzak5892 About humour/bathos in the Marvel Cinematic Universe AKA the basic human behaviour. They're never going to stop with the humour because it's more realistic and makes the characters more relatable. psychologically healthy people gravitate towards people and things that can make them laugh and feel like they're having fun. The humour is probably the only thing about these movies that keeps the audience coming back. Feeling like they HAD FUN!!! Humour is used to enhance drama because once you can make the audience laugh, you get them on your side. You get them to give $h!T what the characters are going through. This is why the Zack Snyder films are so horrible. Superman died and the movie had done literally nothing to make me like him. He was a moody arrogant moron for most of the film and they expected me to care when they killed him. It was the most I'd ever laughed at a movie and I was genuinely happy he couldn't hurt anymore innocent people. Think about the people in your life who you enjoy being around the most. They're probably funny. Also about comic book movie fatigue. When I went to see Endgame there were kids who weren't even born when Avengers hit cinemas. You don't have to worry about people getting bored of the MCU when new fans are literally being born everyday. Captain Marvel made 1.1 BILLION $$$ and has an "A" cinemascore. Angry manbabies on the internet affected nothing. There are at least 305 thousand scumbags on the internet according to Geeks+Gamers subscriber count. The MCU should never have been making movies for those kinds of people. If Ghostbusters (a film that's much better than any comic book movie) came out today, you'd have 35 year old man babies crying that there were too many jokes and demanding that if a sequel is made it should have the same tone as a Bourne movie. Ridiculous. I also love how people rarely give examples of humour undercutting anything. It's just a general statement like they're too lazy to think of a criticism so they just go with one that's been thrown around message boards: music not memorable, cinetatography bad etc.
@@jackjackson2605 LOL I'm not 10 years old dude I don't need a movie to make me laugh or be relatable to my life every step of the way, it's a movie... You sound like you exclusively enjoy the MCU. Dunno. If you think they are good go ahead.
PTA is dope. Even his worst films are better than most people's best. There Will Be Blood is a film that I don't think even Stanley Kubrick could improve.
@@parthnigam916 uhh....easily improve it? the film is so influenced by Kubrick and true to his style that Im not sure he would feel the need to make too many adjustments. the film is also near-perfect as it is so yea..... elaborate
@@fluff975 I agree in the sense that the second half of the film is flawless , but my problem lies with the first 20 minutes. The Scenes where how Plainview comes across HW , those scenes are too slow and unrevealing , the scene where Paul Dano's twin comes and tells about oil field , it doesn't really tell anything , what are his motivations to bring the greedy and power hungry prospector towards his town or his relation with his twin brother . Overall the movie is pretty good as are all PTA films , but for me the flawless PTA movie is Punch Drunk Love followed by Boogie Nights .
Ooooo shit. He needs a podcast. And I don’t feel like that about a lot of people who even do have them. But due to his situation and how people might still be seeing him that’d be great.
It was an interesting "variant joker" story but the REAL Joker has great intelligence, imagination, superior social skills & charm. Most importantly, the *ability to survive any confrontation with Batman.* This tormented loner couldn't match Batman's brains or ass-kickery.
Yea, that's what upset me the most about this movie. How could this Joker be any threat to Batman? He would fold him like a common street thug with no effort required. Terrible depiction of the Joker.
The interviewer on the right is bad. Nobody knows you or cares what happened to you. You have Louis CK on your show, you shut up and ask him questions.
I thought the Joker film was ok but something that really annoys me about it, and this sounds silly, the thing that really annoys me about the film is that itst called "Joker" and not "The Joker". Silly, I know, but it really annoys me
I think one of the fundamental problems with portraying the Joker on screen is that we’re meant on some level to think that he’s cool, while real crazy people are never cool. They’re uncomfortable and strange. If the Joker movie really wanted to be gritty and raw, he wouldn’t be a dancing, prancing clown. I understand this is baked into the character, but alas, I just don’t think you can have your cake and eat it too in this regard. He should have been more of an irredeemable loser like Travis Bickle, since that was clearly the movie Todd Phillips wanted to make anyways. Folie a Deux seems to be doubling down on this whimsical/gritty aesthetic too, being a jukebox musical of all things. Christ. I just want my crazy people to be actually crazy, not pop-culture cartoon caricatures. He’s giving psychopathic murderers a bad name!
@@BansheeMilk That's why something like Mad Max: Fury Road was so refreshing, mixed the old with the new more perfectly than any film since Jurassic Park.
True I like about 10% of the superhero movies I’ve seen, reeves superman, keatons Batman, Chris evans first and second captain America movie, punisher with Thomas jane, bernthal is pretty good too, raimi Spider-Man, moon knight , etc
Not sure there has ever been a comic book movie that even approached a well made complete film. The Dark Knight and The Joker are some examples and they have major flaws. Sin City wasn't bad but still.
@@patsayjack402 Sam Raimi's first two Spider-Man movies (especially the second), the original Superman, Unbreakable, Batman Returns and (if they count) Del Toro's Hellboy movies I think are all examples of times that people were able to make a legitimately great movies from or about comic book superheroes. If the list goes to non-superhero movies then I think the bubble gets bigger with things like A History of Violence, Road to Perdition and Snowpiercer.
Did you just use Netflix and guts in the same sentence? I don't even think they'll ever have Dave back on the platform. Even he's too "controversial", because he said a penis makes you a dude or some shit.
@@KPho150 that's a dumb take imo. Dark Knight, Watchmen, Joker, Spider-Man 2, Man Of Steel.. All great movies with some decent intellectual or moral/ethical debate and nice scenes.
The thing about the joker is that while the older folks just go "Oh, it's a todd phillips movie, director of hangover." "It's not that profound." "This is just like an homage to taxi driver" , the young people really feel this film resonated with them. They think it's amazing and profound. The character of the joker is very relatable to people who feel demoralized by modern society. it is made primarily for them. It's not made for 40 to 50 year olds who are way passed their angst, their youth, their days where they rebelled against the society.
Here's the difference between louis ck and the host. Louis never made fun of people for liking it, the host went out of his way to make fun of people who liked it, louis even said if someone like it it's a great movie. That's how you voice opinions, you don't put others down for what they like, if you hate something lambast it, don't insult someone else for liking it.
but the Avengers are for younger generation and for those who grow up watching those things not for somebody who just watched Oscar movies and says ohh what a sensitive movies ive watched ...my opinion
So refreshing to hear this. I thought I was the only one who didn’t like The Joker. The whole time I was saying to myself, “alright we get it! He’s down-trotted and pathetic!”
It was honestly very contrived. I thought it was really stupid how it became this social commentary at the end. Shoulda just shot the late night host rather than preaching about society and mental illness
@@nemsimic 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Go watch The Dark Knight. Was Ledger's Joker about society and mental illness? Definitely. Because that's a huge part of the Joker. Duh.
@@roboninja3194 yes but I don't feel like it was jammed in there for some kind of political points. Heath Ledger's Joker seemed to be deeper and more archetypal. The other Joker ended up seeming like an extended mental health advertisement with his exclamation about society and mental illness.
@@nemsimic honestly I loved the movie but the speech where he goes "ur awful Murry" took me WAY outta the film because he's doing like child temper tantrum faces pouting his lips and shit and sayin things that sound like I wrote it when I was in my pretentious filmmaker phase "what happens when u cross a mentally ill man? YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKEN DESERVE!" Which is literally such a shitty line I can't even begin. Ppl still quote that scene and I feel like im the only one who fucken CRINGED at that godawful dialouge it's like Todd Phillips gave a 12 year old the script for 10 seconds. I would've liked it if joker was more of an adult, if he was less "goofy" or maybe even less nice. Cuz they do like this weird thing where physically he is an adult but he has all these child like almost retard like qualities to him which I thought was a very lazy way to get the audience to sympathize with him. The killings and his more subtle ways of performance made it really good! All tho one last thing is it honestly doesn't have a whole lot of replay value.
The Joker was overrated by people too young in 2008 to remember or care about how iconic Ledger was in that role when it was released, so they feel like they had to hype up Phoenix's performance as equal or better. It was alright at times. It was nowhere near as great as Ledgers though. Ledger changed and became that character and no one is going to be able to top it no matter how many great actors they put in that role. Every single adaption since, has been a bad impression.
@@benlawson5939 I have to say, its the first time I hear that about Andrew, as far as I know most people consider him the goat of crowd work but not as goat-y when doing his regular stand up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate both but his crowdwork is virtually perfect. obviously it depends on our tastes
You know that feeling when someone perfectly expresses something you've been feeling. Louie saying "if somebody loves a movie then it's a great movie" was borderline cathartic to me, wow I'm gay
I love this comment
why, are you GEH??
Your catharsis was finding out you’re gay lmao
What’s his name
@@ImRanchWilderi bet you do love the idea of not hiding who you are anymore 😂
Us: So howd you like __________ movie, Louis?
CK: It's no Magic Mike, I'll tell you that.
So what CK was saying was Joker was the only Joaquin Phoenix film that didn't make him question his sexuality? That actually makes sense.
think i see a lotta lawwwwbreakers in here
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@@michaelreardon303 Thats either hot, terrible, or both. I ____ it often-- I mean a lot
what the fuck is this comment section, are these jokes?
I had to keep checking the date. Sooooo pumped to see louis out here
The dog looks like it just watched a Marvel movie.
Me too....
For sure
Getting "pumped" is what got him in trouble in the first place
Very very seriously. Can we not bring down men who ask for consent please? Pretty obvious by all his standup that he has kinks. You have every right to say “no.” In my opinion, you lost the battle the second you said “yes.” Let us not drag our funniest people for being human
3:00 “Somebody likes it, it makes it good” Best freakin attitude to have about ANYTHING. Just having the humility to say “I don’t get it, but that doesn’t make me right”
True, but just because I like it that doesn't make me right either. I have liked stuff that I now dislike, after having learned more (movies, music, books...). I believe there's a role for personal taste, but the more you know, the better your judgement is. Understanding that you may like something because you don't know any better is also important humility.
It's not like he doesn't get it. He just doesn't like mediocrity.
Lmao. Dude, his description of Marvel is so money.
Dude's description of money is so Marvel
"and people who wish they were teenagers". Story of the popularity of comic book movies
That's right. Face death with honor and grace. Don't hide in the past, just look into the void of reality and say "this is good". And die.
Yep. I never read comic books or watched Cartoons when I was a kid, apart from South Park, Simpsons, Family guy etc. I figured out pretty late that that was the reason I had no interest in Marvel films.
Yeah its infantilizing of the masses and sponsored by the Pentagon
The Joker was better when it was called The King of Comedy
Har har
I thought they were in the same universe. De Niro's character is Rupert Pupkin from King of Comedy and he succeeded Jerry Lewis on the talk show. Joker was karma catching up with him.
Couldn't have said it better
Joker was nothing like the king of comedy. People keep saying this to sound hip or in the know. But they’re obviously two completely different concepts.
Rolled my eyes when they did the Taxi Driver gun hand thing in it to tbh
I'm so glad Louie feels the same way about Joaquin's performances in The Master and The Joker. He's definitely good in the latter and not overrated at all, but he was great in The Master.
He’s fucking amazing in walk the line
@A Z so bc he likes one bad movie and “doesn’t appreciate the finer things in life” whatever the fuck that means which I’m sure you do genius he’s basically dumb nice
@A Z acting like you understand the finer things in life while joker is just the king of comedy and taxi driver but worse and not utilizing joaquins talent at all. jokers dialogue sounds like it was written by a 14 year old on reddit.
@AZ-zn9lg
Louis has an IQ of *at least* 120
@@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv His standup is still mediocre as hell. Who cares what this dude has to say? Just another propped up celebrity hack. He's BORING
Bill Burr invite Louis to your podcast asap.
Billy's to L.A. for that. His woke wife would get so pissed
Bill likes to call people out and have people look at him as he is moraly superior to others. I also don't think he would open himself up to the criticism of being associated with Louis. I personally don't judge Louis and think he is hilarious.
@@superstimulatedminotaur3681 f her she don’t pay the bills burr does I hate when woman wanna control when they ain’t paying the bills!.
I like how people who don't know billburr and his wife would how they would react
@@maxis2778 It's a pretty obvious speculation with today's climate dude. If you're someone like Bill Burr with a show on Disney, could you imagine the reaction he'd get if he associated with one of the big names from the me too movement? I can tell you exactly what would happen: 1.internet babies would cry about it, 2.Disney would listen to internet babies and fire him, 3.his career in Hollywood would be over. Bill's a great standup, but at this point he'll do what it takes to fit in with the establishment
I’ve been cruising the Hudson River up and down just trying to bump into Louis
Check the sand bar
I used to bump into him in Greenwich village (Downtown Manhattan, near NYU, where the comedy clubs are) from time to time
the idea of some holocaust museums being better than others lol. “how was that one?” “ah it sucked. i cried more at the avengers” 😆
It's good to see Louis
Louie is legit the only one I can see coming back from the whole me too movement.
A triumph in the making
Chris D'Elia
@Jack Francis oops somehow Hasan Manaj came to mind lol
Because what he did was nowhere near as bad as some of the other people who actually got exposed
He'll never be as famous as he used to be.
YES! I COMPLETELY agree with him! That’s exactly what I thought. The Joker was just the same character he played in The Master, but lesser. His performance in The Master was unbelievable. The Joker was just a superficial mental illness movie.
Two totally different sorts of movies other than them both having mental illness but even than it's two different types of characters. One character is more timid and shy while the other character is more idiotic and abrasive. Both are great movies though.
Yeah. Quinton didn't like it either except for that one part where the joker in his opinion "subverts the actual audience" that's watching the film in that one scene. I personally didn't like any of it.
Because todd phillips wrote the character for joaquin and was probably amazed by his performance in the master, also joaquin said something along the lines of 'a good performance is in the directors hand'
I thought Joker was a commentary on how our system destroys people with mental issues
Exactly my reaction, and I also thought exactly the same about Logan
Everyone except the actors and directors take marvel movies way seriously then they should be taken. Its just a live action childhood dream fully realized. Alot of marvel movies do pander to kids but when they try, I think they hit the nail on the head. Scorsese was right but all of his "fans" are pretentious as fuck lol. Let people like dumb, colorful movies.
Thank you Lee it's like we're not allowed to like things anymore and when we like them we get criticized and bashed for it because we're supposed to be above them fuck you if you think your above something or someone
"someone else likes it, it makes it good."
It takes such a level of maturity to realise this on an intuitive level where you aren't just saying it to be "fair".
If that’s true, then it means there’s literally no such thing as a bad movie, right? Because think about it, you could pick the shittiest, most awful movie ever made, and you’ll still be able to find someone out there who loves it lol.
PTA is good but i aint buying this over the top praise of his work. No more impressive than many other filmmakers
Louis CK and Big Jay Oakerson should do a podcast as black women.
.... what lol?
I don't know what schitzophrenic delusion made you think of this, but it is an amazing idea.
That seems lit af
@@FantomL0rd
Louis: ruclips.net/video/f8PXvqYpGCM/видео.html
Big Jay: ruclips.net/video/c7Io0IzvSY4/видео.html
Lol sounds like another cancel culture fiasco 😂
Wow is this like his first public interview anywhere since his “exile”?
He's done 2 of these podcasts on Joe Lists RUclips chanel. (Comedian who's opened for him) They talked about Kurbick movies and another recently on PTA movies.
Yeh he's just quietly going about having a career again. I personally don't give a fuck about what he did.
He's in the Comedy Store documentary
The whole exile thing is fucking beyond stupid.
No one cares about what some fat women think of him, and yet
Joker is a good movie but it just became overrated and the younger fans don't seem to know that it took from better movies like Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy.
I think more movies should take from great movies 😀
*LOUIS!*
*CREATE YOUR OWN PODCAST!*
*NOW!*
*THAT'S AN ORDER!*
Long-Distance Relationship by Louis and his ex Blanche Gardin was a pretty amazing podcast
@@nukleyar Yeah.. but I'm greedy. I need him to upload once a week, every week, for years. And I need 3-hour episodes.
nukleyar did he ever post that last episode
@@justjoe233 I dunno. I got up to the 9th episode.
@@ollysombrero8427 When he hosted the multi-hour Opie and Anthony show, it turned into more of a sad advice show, though it did lead to some of his standup bits. It would be interesting to see if things changed or if he would have guests on and keep it more up beat and funny.
I think the worst thing about the Joker is that it had to do with Batman. It should have just been a movie called "Arthur" or something about a crazy guy going crazy. I would have preferred it more.
Louies dog chillin in the back, awesome 😆 it costs him 400 dollar a day for his dog to be relaxed lol true fans will understand
Can you explain
@@55jemmz5 he has an older bit about adopting dogs. And how vets will prescribe medications for dogs to keep them calm. Which led to him making a joke about buying heroin for his dog that cost him 400 dollars a day.
@@matthale8090 swear I’m a Louis fan. Haven’t seen that bit. Which special? Or is it o&a
@@matthale8090 pretty sure it was prozac and not heroin LMAO. maybe he's changed the bit around occasionally
@@JustinLCarter 2017 special
Its more a critique of Marvel than the joker. There is no specific critique of joker or his performance.
The Master is a great movie. Didn't think much of it first viewing, but after multiple views its now the best Paul Thomas Anderson movie for me. Amazing performance by Phoenix. In my opinion his character is the titular "Master". The heroic, tragic lost soul/free spirit who is the true master of his own destiny.
Louis spitting facts
Coming from the guy who directed pootie tang lol but I see what he means by marvel movies. Joker was great though
Joker couldve been such a better movie if it was more competent and not a direct rip off of other better movies
Marc Norman really let himself go.
You mean Kevin Hart..
Kevin Hart indeed 😂
I liked the Joker, but later saw Taxi Driver and realised it was the same movie as Joker but better. I know this was a homage and not a rip-off, but it feels like a homage should add a bit more to the story in question, or make it fit in todays society better. It just didn't.
Exactly
I have never been in a Holocaust museum that doesn't make me laugh out loud.
The only issue I have with this take is that there are thousands of people who enjoy the comic based movies because they spent their loves collecting and appreciating these characters and stories. It isn't always incels in their basements. It's dismissive and generalizing.
Wrestlemania-style all-star battle royales KILLED THE GOLDEN AGE OF COMICS. Amd now theyre doing it to comic book movies. There were decades of stories left to rot because the next movie has to be bigger.
I thought the Joker was really average.
Me and my brother watched it in the theater. When it was all said and done, we looked at each other and just shrugged
People feel compelled to say they like Joker the same way vaccinated people feel compelled to wear masks outside. It doesn't make any sense, but they don't want to be attacked by rage mobs.
I kept waiting to be amazed right up till the end.
Watched it and thought it was meh. Its just an inferior version of the taxi driver.
@@SMokeUCantHandle many folks liked Joker because it passed off white liberals. I’ve seen liberals so angry at the movie joker and I’m like ‘Get a Life!’
They talk about not tarnishing PTA's name with the marvel conversation, but the ironic thing about all this is that PTA actually enjoys marvel films
True. PTA also wanted to work w/ Adam Sandler for Punch-Drunk Love and Sandler is notoriously known to make bad movies (I however, love his earlier ones). Why don't they criticize PTA for that for his personal taste?
The sweaty blubbering guy on the right need to to shutup and let the other two talk.
I fucking hate the Avengers movies.
The Master Bater: The Louis CK story
The Jerker?
The meat beater
The Master is a phenomenal movie
@We Back yep, I think loui was being a bit of a snob here. Had it not been a super hero movie he'd love it. Although I will say the master is a far better film and 100% Joaquin Phoenix should have won Oscar's for it. Honestly the entire film deserves multiple Oscar's. Philip Seymour hoffman was brilliant in it as well
Holy shit. HE ABSOLUTELY NAILS my problem with Marvel movies too. Let the heroes be fuckin cool!!! I hate how they force comedy into the Avengers movies.
The Avengers are written directed and marketed as comedies. They literally picked Joss Whedon and the Russo's because of their backgrounds in comedy.
@@jackjackson2605 Yep it shows! Wish they let the heroes be cooler instead of trying to nail every market by making them all funny lol.
@@zakzak5892 About humour/bathos in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
AKA the basic human behaviour. They're never going to stop with the humour because it's more realistic and makes the characters more relatable. psychologically healthy people gravitate towards people and things that can make them laugh and feel like they're having fun. The humour is probably the only thing about these movies that keeps the audience coming back. Feeling like they HAD FUN!!! Humour is used to enhance drama because once you can make the audience laugh, you get them on your side. You get them to give $h!T what the characters are going through.
This is why the Zack Snyder films are so horrible. Superman died and the movie had done literally nothing to make me like him. He was a moody arrogant moron for most of the film and they expected me to care when they killed him. It was the most I'd ever laughed at a movie and I was genuinely happy he couldn't hurt anymore innocent people.
Think about the people in your life who you enjoy being around the most. They're probably funny.
Also about comic book movie fatigue. When I went to see Endgame there were kids who weren't even born when Avengers hit cinemas. You don't have to worry about people getting bored of the MCU when new fans are literally being born everyday.
Captain Marvel made 1.1 BILLION $$$ and has an "A" cinemascore. Angry manbabies on the internet affected nothing. There are at least 305 thousand scumbags on the internet according to Geeks+Gamers subscriber count. The MCU should never have been making movies for those kinds of people.
If Ghostbusters (a film that's much better than any comic book movie) came out today, you'd have 35 year old man babies crying that there were too many jokes and demanding that if a sequel is made it should have the same tone as a Bourne movie. Ridiculous.
I also love how people rarely give examples of humour undercutting anything. It's just a general statement like they're too lazy to think of a criticism so they just go with one that's been thrown around message boards: music not memorable, cinetatography bad etc.
That's why I liked Ang Lee's Hulk - no comedy, pure anger like the hulk himself.
@@jackjackson2605 LOL I'm not 10 years old dude I don't need a movie to make me laugh or be relatable to my life every step of the way, it's a movie... You sound like you exclusively enjoy the MCU. Dunno. If you think they are good go ahead.
always happy to hear love n respect for PTA from other great artists 🙏
PTA is dope. Even his worst films are better than most people's best. There Will Be Blood is a film that I don't think even Stanley Kubrick could improve.
@@johnhein2539 he could easily improve it
@@parthnigam916 uhh....easily improve it? the film is so influenced by Kubrick and true to his style that Im not sure he would feel the need to make too many adjustments. the film is also near-perfect as it is so yea..... elaborate
@@fluff975 I agree in the sense that the second half of the film is flawless , but my problem lies with the first 20 minutes. The Scenes where how Plainview comes across HW , those scenes are too slow and unrevealing , the scene where Paul Dano's twin comes and tells about oil field , it doesn't really tell anything , what are his motivations to bring the greedy and power hungry prospector towards his town or his relation with his twin brother .
Overall the movie is pretty good as are all PTA films , but for me the flawless PTA movie is Punch Drunk Love followed by Boogie Nights .
We miss you Louie.
Ooooo shit. He needs a podcast. And I don’t feel like that about a lot of people who even do have them. But due to his situation and how people might still be seeing him that’d be great.
Loieeeeeeee we fuckng love u and need you to speak more
Goddam man, Love Louie
"Iron Man the holocaust museum". Nice bomb Joe
Tbh if Norm said that you’d see it quoted all over the internet for months
@@LordJagd thats cause norm can make any line funny
Louie is absolutely on point with this.
It was an interesting "variant joker" story but the REAL Joker has great intelligence, imagination, superior social skills & charm. Most importantly, the *ability to survive any confrontation with Batman.* This tormented loner couldn't match Batman's brains or ass-kickery.
You understand the characters arent real right?
@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox - Are *you* for real?
Yeah it was a poor attempt at creating a backstory.
Yea, that's what upset me the most about this movie. How could this Joker be any threat to Batman? He would fold him like a common street thug with no effort required. Terrible depiction of the Joker.
@@YungRaze21 imagine getting upset over a movie about super heros made for children
I thought joker was cool 🤷🏻♂️
Thought it was boring, I'm glad that people liked it it just felt a little contrived and unoriginal.
Scorsese would like Louie
The interviewer on the right is bad. Nobody knows you or cares what happened to you. You have Louis CK on your show, you shut up and ask him questions.
I wonder what Louie thinks of like Nolan’s Batman films or Raimi’s Spider-Man, since those are quite auteurish
I liked Joker the first time I saw it when it was called Taxi Driver.
Joker was overrated.
Glad to see Louie back
Avengers/Joker
ope bro
I get the feeling Louie *reaaaally* loves PTA
Yes! In this same podcast Louis said he thought PTA was the best working filmmaker
I mean who the fuck doesn't like PTA??
There Will Be Blood was the best movie of the aughts
I thought the Joker film was ok but something that really annoys me about it, and this sounds silly, the thing that really annoys me about the film is that itst called "Joker" and not "The Joker". Silly, I know, but it really annoys me
I think one of the fundamental problems with portraying the Joker on screen is that we’re meant on some level to think that he’s cool, while real crazy people are never cool. They’re uncomfortable and strange. If the Joker movie really wanted to be gritty and raw, he wouldn’t be a dancing, prancing clown. I understand this is baked into the character, but alas, I just don’t think you can have your cake and eat it too in this regard. He should have been more of an irredeemable loser like Travis Bickle, since that was clearly the movie Todd Phillips wanted to make anyways.
Folie a Deux seems to be doubling down on this whimsical/gritty aesthetic too, being a jukebox musical of all things. Christ. I just want my crazy people to be actually crazy, not pop-culture cartoon caricatures. He’s giving psychopathic murderers a bad name!
Agreed. The action in most superhero movies looks like a videogame, not a film.
And how does star wars not?
@@maxashby8160 It does too (at least the newer CGI heavy stuff). Good point
@@BansheeMilk That's why something like Mad Max: Fury Road was so refreshing, mixed the old with the new more perfectly than any film since Jurassic Park.
True I like about 10% of the superhero movies I’ve seen, reeves superman, keatons Batman, Chris evans first and second captain America movie, punisher with Thomas jane, bernthal is pretty good too, raimi Spider-Man, moon knight , etc
Is this a bit ? He hates comic book movies ? Hes seen everyone of them and thinks theyre awful ?
Not sure there has ever been a comic book movie that even approached a well made complete film. The Dark Knight and The Joker are some examples and they have major flaws. Sin City wasn't bad but still.
@@patsayjack402 Sam Raimi's first two Spider-Man movies (especially the second), the original Superman, Unbreakable, Batman Returns and (if they count) Del Toro's Hellboy movies I think are all examples of times that people were able to make a legitimately great movies from or about comic book superheroes. If the list goes to non-superhero movies then I think the bubble gets bigger with things like A History of Violence, Road to Perdition and Snowpiercer.
GET ON JRE.
We miss Louie! Hopefully Netflix soon has the guts to sign him again.
He put out a special on his website last year in case you didn't know
@@draxxthemsclounts2478 I bought that like ten sconds after he sent out the email to announce it :D
It was fx who he was under contract with
Did you just use Netflix and guts in the same sentence? I don't even think they'll ever have Dave back on the platform. Even he's too "controversial", because he said a penis makes you a dude or some shit.
@@deinse82 Dave and louis have stuff on Netflix
His description of Marvel movies perfectly and hilariously sums up why I've never really liked them much better than I could.
You look dumb calling comic book movies “marvel movies”
IS there a a full version of this interview somewhere?
I loved Joker I think it's one of the few actually good comic movies made recently..
It’s good, but in the end of the day, it’s just a comic book movie, it’s not going to leave you any question after watching it
@@KPho150 that's a dumb take imo. Dark Knight, Watchmen, Joker, Spider-Man 2, Man Of Steel.. All great movies with some decent intellectual or moral/ethical debate and nice scenes.
@@joeseph2863 well if you can take out of it more than I can then good for you
@@joeseph2863 joker is too derivative of taxi driver and king of comedy. its basically just those two movies, just written and produced poorly.
Where is Louis CK's OnlyFans?
The thing about the joker is that while the older folks just go "Oh, it's a todd phillips movie, director of hangover." "It's not that profound." "This is just like an homage to taxi driver" , the young people really feel this film resonated with them. They think it's amazing and profound. The character of the joker is very relatable to people who feel demoralized by modern society. it is made primarily for them. It's not made for 40 to 50 year olds who are way passed their angst, their youth, their days where they rebelled against the society.
Here's the difference between louis ck and the host. Louis never made fun of people for liking it, the host went out of his way to make fun of people who liked it, louis even said if someone like it it's a great movie. That's how you voice opinions, you don't put others down for what they like, if you hate something lambast it, don't insult someone else for liking it.
Spot on with the brutal “we’re normal superheroes” scenes in every marvel movie ever. Marvel is lame but it’s popular because the kids love it.
Now everyone hates the MCU because of Comics
Yall so Fake
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE
are we sure the dog behind Louis is alive? Doesn't move an inch throughout the interview
but the Avengers are for younger generation and for those who grow up watching those things not for somebody who just watched Oscar movies and says ohh what a sensitive movies ive watched ...my opinion
53 year old man talking about Marvel and DC movies is a joke itself. Shut up Grandpa and go watch Happy Days
So refreshing to hear this. I thought I was the only one who didn’t like The Joker. The whole time I was saying to myself, “alright we get it! He’s down-trotted and pathetic!”
It was honestly very contrived. I thought it was really stupid how it became this social commentary at the end. Shoulda just shot the late night host rather than preaching about society and mental illness
@@nemsimic 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Go watch The Dark Knight. Was Ledger's Joker about society and mental illness? Definitely. Because that's a huge part of the Joker. Duh.
@@roboninja3194 yes but I don't feel like it was jammed in there for some kind of political points. Heath Ledger's Joker seemed to be deeper and more archetypal. The other Joker ended up seeming like an extended mental health advertisement with his exclamation about society and mental illness.
@@nemsimic honestly I loved the movie but the speech where he goes "ur awful Murry" took me WAY outta the film because he's doing like child temper tantrum faces pouting his lips and shit and sayin things that sound like I wrote it when I was in my pretentious filmmaker phase "what happens when u cross a mentally ill man? YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKEN DESERVE!" Which is literally such a shitty line I can't even begin. Ppl still quote that scene and I feel like im the only one who fucken CRINGED at that godawful dialouge it's like Todd Phillips gave a 12 year old the script for 10 seconds. I would've liked it if joker was more of an adult, if he was less "goofy" or maybe even less nice. Cuz they do like this weird thing where physically he is an adult but he has all these child like almost retard like qualities to him which I thought was a very lazy way to get the audience to sympathize with him. The killings and his more subtle ways of performance made it really good! All tho one last thing is it honestly doesn't have a whole lot of replay value.
@@atomicalien4 I thought it was great, I saw it twice.
Comedians don't like movies, their JOB is to not take things seriously... of course none of them like movies!
This clip is literally from a whole podcast dedicated to fawning over P.T. Anderson's movies
@@lukess.s
Movies you could watch on your phone.
Meanwhile, they shit all over the only reason to actually go to a movie theater.
This podcasts is called Joe & Raanan Talk Movies
Joker was clearly a shitty indie film that they slapped the joker name on at the last second to sell tickets off the name.
It blows.
Not to defend them but.. a liiiiiiitle played out fo keep ragging on marvel movies. Especially when you haven't seen them
The Joker was overrated by people too young in 2008 to remember or care about how iconic Ledger was in that role when it was released, so they feel like they had to hype up Phoenix's performance as equal or better.
It was alright at times. It was nowhere near as great as Ledgers though. Ledger changed and became that character and no one is going to be able to top it no matter how many great actors they put in that role.
Every single adaption since, has been a bad impression.
Avengers is great u bugging but yet u like that gay magic mike movie smh 🤦♂️ n the joker it was ok.
The Master is my second-favorite film, behind TWBB. Of course Louis is a cultured man.
I can’t believe Louis doesn’t like Marvel. He must be jerkin’ me around!
Didn't see The Master and I thought Joker sucked balls.
Whats funny, yet sad, is that PTA loves shitty marvel movies. "Yeah...I love all that stuff" he said
These guys can't even give one good reason why they hate marvel's movies so much.. and still get 2K likes.
he’s for sure talking about the scene from age of Ultron where they’re trying to lift the hammer
Haha Louis perfectly expressing my feelings on Marvel and it's ever decreasing circle of meh.
All Marvel movies are pure trash. Entertaining? Yes. Trash? Yep.
I wish louis had a movie podcast, I'd listen the shit out of that
If he had a shitting podcast, I'd make a movie out of it
Joker was not good
There was nothing "teenage" or "Marvel" about The Joker. 😀
I agree The Master is my favorite Phoenix film.
comparing superhero movies to paul anderson movies, why.
Is it true that Louis tried to get Pete Davidson fired, from SNL, for smoking weed?
Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Bill Burr... and Andrew Schultz's crowd work. My personal favorites
I like schultz better when he's not doing crowd work I think is written material is better
@@benlawson5939 I have to say, its the first time I hear that about Andrew, as far as I know most people consider him the goat of crowd work but not as goat-y when doing his regular stand up. Dont get me wrong I appreciate both but his crowdwork is virtually perfect. obviously it depends on our tastes
"I just don't care about characters that are different colors" canceled
MCU hasn't written a good ending in 40 movie's.
Paul Thomas "Wes" Anderson makes shitty movies.
He’s just dipping his toes in the water before he jumps back and is mainstream accepted back
It's time to forgive.
he is going mainstream already, he has a bunch of shows that already happened and coming up soon