Bloodborne Lore | Everything about Micolash [Ft. Bean]
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Sophie and Sin sit down with Bean to talk about her love for Micolash Host of the Nightmare. In today's Bloodborne Lore Discussion we answer a lot of questions, including why is Micolash in the Nightmare of Mensis? What's up with the nightmare of mensis? What is going on in Ya'har'gul?
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You know what? I'm finally ready to dive into the Reborn analysis
@@erikson94gremista yey! you wont regret it! it's the best thing we ever recorded
Micolash: "Hello, is this Kos?"
Kos: *hangs up*
Micolash: "....Or some say Kosm" 😢
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Need me a guy with pocketfuls of slugs 😔
I cant love your impression and now, ANIMATION, of Miyazaki enough. Absolute gold.
Impression? That IS the REAL Miyazaki! The Miyazaki you are familiar with is merely an actor hired by From Software because they feared the real Miyazaki would hurt their brand's "image."
I must say, I think they may have made the right choice. The real Miyazaki is quite a crude and generally disagreeable fellow. He does make great games, though...
lmao
Just here to say that Im happy 6+ years after the release of BB we can have this conversation about how both Micolash and Alfred have incel energy
Love u two
Sophie: "...Does he mean the cut boss arena? No. That's not muddy or lakey, because its *the fucking ocean!"*
This line is my favourite goddamn thing since the Elden Ring Gameplay Trailer.
He’s one of my favorite I hated his fight the first time bc I got so lost and had to look up where to go but all his ramblings just make me love him and I wore that cage the rest of the game
"Micholash is a very stable genius" I got that reference
Hey all, love the work you guys do! sincerely thank-you!
Just a quick observation - I'm sure this has been brought up before but in answer to Sin's question about 8 minutes in on where Micolash was born.
Many characters in Bloodborne with specifically London accents are explicitly from Yharnam (the sceptical man, the chapel dweller, the Yhanamites in cathedral ward), and what may not be apparent to non-Londoners is that Micolash's accent is unmistakably London - suggesting he's from Yharnam too (this is most evident during his death 'lament' .. "I'll forget effrey-fing" (I'm from London too I'm allowed to mock it!)). - obviously the voice actor is attempting to put a creepy/untrustworthy spin on the accent (he reminds me of the Undead Burg merchant and Patches (all three voice actors are, I believe, from London) - he also reminds me of various sitcom characters you'd get on British TV in the 80s portraying sleazy landlords or Soho strip-club owners - an actor named Lee Cornes springs to mind though ironically he's from the Midlands.
What I find particularly interesting is that Micolash's accent also denotes an unprivileged upbringing (I think terms like 'working class accent' are probably outdated but in a Victorian setting they say a lot ), as opposed to his Byrgenwerth alumni Willem and Laurence both of whom have accents suggesting a privileged upbringing (Willem particularly).
Assuming Byrgenwerth follows the same admissions model as Victorian era British universities - social mobility was essentially non-existent so for someone from a non-privileged background to even attend would be extremely rare - perhaps suggesting he was either so scholastically brilliant that he was brought to Byrgenwerth on that merit alone or he was working completely outside of the school structure (if indeed nightmare Micolash is a faithful representation of the living man himself which is a big 'if' - the word 'Host' (as in group) screams at me when I think about his character)
Just thought it was worth bringing up - Yharnam seems to have more of a fleshed out cultural identity (for want of a better term) than other souls-borne locations and the original voice recording for Micolash is distinctly less-'Londoney' so it seems a conscious decision.
right - on to rant about Velstadt on your Shulva video....
This channel is amazing and criminally underrated. Somehow y'all hit that perfect niche of being simultaneously consistently long enough to fill empty time, informative enough to keep me listening, and fun enough to get me to come back. It also does double duty as bedtime listening. Love the super serious and highly edited long form content, but I love your format more because it means you have literal dozens of the 60+ minute pure voiceover videos I always fall asleep to. Never change!
And keep the super long FromSoft podcasts coming!
To be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand Sinclair Lore.
Micolash to the School of Mensis:" 👏WE👏NEED👏MORE👏EYES👏"
School of Mensis: "Okay, let's call beyond and get some Eyes"
**Phone Rings**
On The Line: "This is Howard's Pizza, can I take your order?"
Micolash: "Kos? Yes, 👏WE👏WANT👏MORE👏EYES👏"
On The Line: "Um... I'm sorry, sir. We don't have any eyes"
Micolash: 😡
looool
“Give is leyekes, give is leyekes like your did for the vacuous Rom.”
- Micholash if he was a RUclipsr.
Girl With Blorbo’s Ultimate Fantasy: someone invites you on a podcast to interview you ABOUT YOUR BLORBO and they ask how you FEEL ABOUT HIM and what you LIKE ABOUT HIM
What a dream come true wow
The apology is appreciated, but gladly this insane rollercoaster is not my first, nor my last.
welcome to the family
Love this energy - just three friends bullying Micolash for an hour straight. 😂 This is the content I'm here for.
XD
Thanks Bean, thanks Sophie.
And Sin was a great guest in this episode as well!
So, I just looked up the meaning of, "werth," which is just an early spelling of, "worth," when used in the context of city names and found this.
From, "Geographical Etymology: A Dictionary of Place-names Giving Their Derivations."
Werth or wirth, "A river island, or sometimes a plot of ground insulated by marshes"
I also just looked up, "Byrgen,"I think this is all over the Bloodborne wiki and I'm sure Sophie's already explained it thrice, but it means,
"burial-place; grave; tomb; sepulchre."
So Byrgenwerth kind of means graveyard island or maybe, lakeside graveyard.
Very thematic. It's a shame that its canon translation is Dignity City, and there's nothing anyone can ever do to change that.
So basically it means Dignity City right? Did i get the jist of this investigation correctly?
@@fredranzalot4849 is that from the Japanese name?
it's nice to have the actual context for those cut lines, i was always intrigued by them and my guess at what their purpose was was completely wrong lmfao. one thing that's still gonna get me anyway though probably forever is the second version of the "we were friends, how could you" where he says "it's nothing to be ashamed of!" angrily. i wonder what he was talking about. maybe the fact that he used to get trashcanned weekly by the jocks at Byrgenwerth
Thanks for stopping by :)
I'm only seventeen minutes in because I have to go to work and finish listening this evening, but I'm already getting two things out of this:
1. That note in Yahar'gul that says "Rituals to beckon the moon" might be harmonized with what Micolash is actually doing if we take this "Micolash is following in Laurence's footsteps" thing another step. Laurence probably went into the chalices to get Mergo and offer him as a substitute child to Flora, but died. So Laurence's "ritual" was to beckon the Moon Presence and say "hey, flower lady, kid here!" But Micolash, thinking he could improve on the concept, instead replaced Flora with Kos. (Of course, the Mensis Ritual ends up causing the worlds to crash together and the Blood Moon to get beckoned anyway so that probably makes more sense about what the note is saying, but I like the idea of Micolash hunched over a desk, editing Laurence's notes and going "ACTUALLY, it would be better if..."
2. At Dignity City U, Rom was clearly that one really hot and popular girl who nonetheless gets great grades and all the incel neckbeards hate her because she's better than them at the one thing that gives them self-worth (their alleged smarts) and still won't talk to them. Which is probably why Micolash wants to summon Kos specifically because he wants to prove he's better at mad eldritch science than she is.
Micolash OBVIOUSLY became The One Reborn because the cultist spammed the print button for his return too many times and all of the Mico-copies mashed together.
XD
Microtransactions the host of nightmares is truly terrifying lol
I love Micolash as a character.
PC: "I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ALL THIS MEANS! WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT!!?"
Micolash: **Looks at PC like a psychopath with a cage on his head** "Do you really..?"
21:54 .. that was in the episode when you mentioned Reborn! I know it as if it had just happend.
PS: I think Myiazaki-San is growing more and more fond of you guys. I hear the joy over never ending rage/dread from having to appear on this podcast for ever in his soothing ASMR voice. Were the notes introduced to lure him in? (possibly even 'lore him in').You cheeky basterds, good on you. pp = podcast policy
I always assumed that the Brain of Mensis is formed from the collective minds of the School of Mensis, and that the One Reborn is an attempt to bring them back from the nightmare. It makes a grim sense that the waking world version of the Brain of Mensis would be a "Body of Mensis".
"no! We shall not abandon the bean"...see what I did there?
I love Lash's inane ramblings. He's the only truly sane person in the world who knows what's going on and is coherent enough to pursue it. But when you meet him he just seems so out of left field. It's great, one of those repeat playthrough gems is when you kind of get what's he's saying
Please tell me Bean has seen “Lack of Belt”. Best Micolash video ever, I guarantee.
I said it on the discord and I will say it again, nobody says cosm
This is absolutely true.
I say Kosm! 😣
I loved this. I really did learn a lot about Micolash. He’s also one of my favorite Bloodborne characters
This is one of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Thank you for the insight and laughs!
About 30 mins in, I counted 6 Lambos in that Mensis enemy collage. 🤔
lmao!
This is the video I needed
glad u enjoyed it!
We even got a guest visit by Miyazaki! XD
I'm upset that no one mentioned his near perfect cross country and track team record during his education.
9:01 so according to Sophie, the real name of Forbidden Woods is Dignity City
😱
Chasing Micolash from Cathedral ward all the way to hemwick and jumping into the sea sounds like an amazing concept! Would have loved to actually play it
Although the yharnam projections disappear after being hit once, they do have the ability to fight with blood projectiles. Perhaps the one in the mensis nightmare could fight or maybe the queen needs to be present for the projections to fight
Lol. Werent there two different micolash ones with bean, one was like the unedited version already lol. I definitely recall being here before.
yup! they're both on the patreon vault now XD
51:23
To answer this, yes, he absolutely can.
The Augur of Ebreitas works the same as a bullet, being able to parry attacks. However, due to the around 1~ it takes to cast, by the time the animation is done, the person that was parried has already gotten back up. There is a way around this, and it's if the Augur of Ebreitas is cast and the caster is hit milliseconds afterwards. This cancels the cast animation AND parries the attacker, allowing for a Visceral.
Thank you for coming to my TedTalk,
- An avid Augur of Ebreitas fan
I love you guys!!!! You always make my day when I get a chance to get watch one of your videos!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
How are y'all doing lately?
good ty! hope you're well too!
I wonder if you can get visceral attacked by micolash if you turn your back to him and get backstabbed
More please :) I've just watched all five of these and almost everything you've said has changed the way I see this game. So amazingly good.
Thanks! We have playlists full of these!
So OK elephant in the room (spider in the room?), Rom became a spider right? And we have all these spiders in mensis that look different but maybe that's a semi successful transformation, right? You don't turn into a beast, you don't like turn into a brainsucker / celestial thing, you turn into a spider somehow if you do a certain process while contacting a great one. So maybe that's what happened to the scholars, whether they are mensis or ancient Loran church scholars or something. Because we also have these eyes everywhere in the church structure and they also have spider webs around them. I don't really understand how that works but it's like the whole place got affected in that way.
It's kind of a weird place for patches to end up like that though, because patches hates clerics in all games! So I certainly don't see him as part of church scholars turned spiders, but he clearly is a scholar of some kind with his amygdala worshipping. And like Sophie says he does seem to be from Bygerwerth. But then again, he would join mensis as an "anti church" faction, like he joined Rykard's bunch in Elden Ring maybe. I don't know, it's a very different patches from the one in souls anyway so anything's possible. Even enlightenment.
I think that's what the spiders in the Nightmare are, yeah - you find them adjacent to where the giant brain is, and everyone immediately in front of the brain is dead. So I'm assuming the ones who didn't die from the initial contact got turned into spiders and went mad. The eyes around the place are probably something like the blood and skulls in the Hunter's Nightmare; the world is changing to reflect the people in it.
Patches kind of becomes a cleric of sorts in Bloodborne, because he's worshiping Amygdala, but he's more like... flattering it for attention? He decides to just go pack and find another god when it dies.
Byrgenworth seems to possibly mean college of the grave
Yeah, "Byrgen" - we've known for a while, we just can't update videos without remaking them entirely (which we're slowly doing with our much older stuff).
I have to sssume hats of bloodborne was once again Sophie suggesting a sarcastic new series and forgetting that to Sin there are no stupid ideas when it comes ever more tortured analysis of a many years old game
I just made the first thumbnail.
Tom was clearly laurence’s TA
A bit late but Edgar reminds me of that one ep where you started talking about some erotic books involving werewolves
haha yup!
Damn, that mother's Strong.
Is the old blood actually good for *anything* that Byrgenwerth or the Healing Church wanted to accomplish? It heals wounds, which is nice for our player character and for the Healing Church to ingratiate themselves with Yharnamites, but that doesnt actually help achieve their ends of ascension.
The closest it gets to "ascension" is turning its recipients into beasts - which literally nobody wants. You don't seem to need the Old Blood at all to ascend, just insight (granted to you by Third Cords). It seems like the Old Blood was just a massive red herring?
Are we meant to assume the Old Blood is blood from the physical forms of Great Ones, eg Ebreitas? If so, I get the logic of it - "let's put Ebreitas's blood in ourselves and maybe we'll become like Ebreitas" - but it doesn't work, it just turns you into a beast.
Or, are we meant to assume that Old Blood PLUS insight turns you into Kin of the Cosmos/celestial emissaries instead of beasts? If so, imposter Ioseka's experiments don't really make sense - what, is she strapping people down, injecting them with Old Blood, and then whispering Eldritch truths to them to force them to transform into Kin and not Beasts? Was Old Blood used to facilitate Rom's "ascension?"
Even if so, it still seems as if the blood ends up wholly unnecessary to ascend, right? It was all a dead end, because becoming Kin isn't actually becoming a halfway Great One or anything....
That was a great episode! Bean is a wonderful guest
Does anyone else hear B-MO
I've never seen adventure time, but I've heard this exact comment before XD
Dignity City? Consider me subscribed for that quality joke lol
Micolash for president
Lets gooooooo more snack covenant
You guys are ruining every part of bloodborne in the absolute best way and im not sure how to feel about it.
ok....but what is the purpose of the one reborn?
It doesn't have one, it's just a bunch of dead bodies that the Bell Ringers brought back to life because that's their hobby / job. Same as the other corpse monsters in Yahar'gul, but big.
Finally, micolash simp club
33:50 Why the one about the werewolf fanfic, of course.
cultist!
I love Your Bloodborne content, and I listen to You for about 2 years. You explained the most of this game to me, and I actually feel like You're the best channel full of knowledge and good theories (even if buried under a thick, yet enjoyable layer of pure, fun banter) about it.
Therefore I just felt like I have to share with You a certain video, of another RUclipsr, who is going through Bloodborne blind now, and after every boss stops to make a very in-depth analysis. And there was one particular video, where he offers a take that for me was very fresh and intriguing. I thought it may pick Your interest (You don't have to watch the entire video, the analysis starts at 1:12:05 )
ruclips.net/video/RaoamGdJ52U/видео.html
It's just a different angle of viewing this game, but man it's now stuck in my head.
BEST BOY YESS
Ok dignity city is hilarious 😂
Has anyone ever commented on the physical resemblance Micholash has with the father of cosmic horror, H.P. Lovecraft? That must have been intentional.
I say Kosm >~
Guys you need to focus more on the content lol like yea have a good time but I’m clocking off y’all videos because you just sound off lol that’s all I can say. More structure
It's 'cause you're watching the wrong episodes, Hail! For structure you need to watch these ones ruclips.net/video/7LS_o02zYOA/видео.html&t=