Stuart, thank you! This is one of the best army reviews for advanced players that I have ever seen! I'll be happy to see more similar content in the future, so please don't stop
I've watched this review like 5 times now. And it really helped me understand the army and tactics a bit more. Just went 5-0 at a local GT here in the PNW!
Has your opinion changed further since the making of this video? If so, it would be awesome to get an update with your current thoughts of the Maggotkin 😊 thank you for great content!
I think the best place to start on the wheel is turn 4. Give them the first turn if possible, no heroic action for any extra command points. The. Turn 2 you can get in with flies or orghotts and deny the pile ins
I just got into AoS a couple months ago I have a 1000 point nurgle army build and about half way painted. I can't wait to start playing. Awesome video!
Very glad I stumbled on this, great work - very insightful. I’m about to finish painting a 2000 point army and given what you have said, I think I picked well.
Really like this idea as a series 🤙🏻 Ive been trying to get locals to run Harby! I think there's a great build their if you toss rustfang on him too so you can actually focus down a sizeable threat or make your opp think twice about trying to pin you in your deployment zone
Looking forward to future videos. I agree with a lot of your takes. Been playing and having great success with a combination of Glott, 10 kings, and a Lord of Plagues with the Overpowering stench trait.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 thank you very much Stuart, your analysis is very good. I myself don’t play MON but after your video I am considering to try a mortal army. Please make more of those followup videos. Liked, subscribed and shared with my friends. Cheers 🍻 PS. Currently I am running GUO in the Legion 😎
I think the main time a 4+ ward on turn 1 is useful is if facing a Stormcast player who has built their list for a turn 1 alpha strike (or an Iron Jaws player who does this)
Love this idea for a series. I know they're not a proper 3rd edition battle tome yet, but Soulblight Gravelords would be a great one to do since it was written in the context of 2e but with 3e in mind.
Okay, so having watched this about 10 ten times and I've just gotta follow up on your suggestion of making a whole video dedicated to the Glottkin's Warscroll... pretty please?
Hey great content, excellent overview. Agree with everything except Beasts of Nurgle. BoN are one of the fastest units in our book with run/retreat/charge and are one of the few units that has 2+ damage on the warscroll. For 110 points, I don't feel bad about sacrificing one to negate unleash hell. While I think some players are taking too many, multiple single BoNs force splitting attacks and will be doing multiple d3 MW on the charge, and then again if they get an opportunity to retreat and charge right back in. How is straight MW worse than a few 4+ MW? Combine them with sloppity/wheel no pile in and you have a 110 unit that can completely cripple lots of units that cost 5x more.
I played against FS after their new tome, and started with 6. It turned out great, since i played first and used my Rot Sorc with Master of Magic and Arcane Tome to cast both of our "artilery" spells, leaving DC on EVERY SINGLE UNIT IN HIS ARMY. Since i started first, I rolled DC twice, garnering 16 mortal wounds across the board, with devastating effect to his heroes.
Great idea for a series and this first one for Nurgle is super helpful. Thanks for sharing your insights. Great to have this pushing back against some of the videos that seem to encourage list building purely off the back of knee-jerk reactions to new books/scrolls. Hope there'll be more to come
Really nice video, your presentation was really well organized, i would change the setup (1 slide = 1 idea). Regarding the content, i am a Nurgle player for a while and I agree with you on almost everythinhg. Not sure about set Morbidex above Orgotts. Orgotts have +1 save auto with his free command points makes him more resilient vs all in damage output Include a nurglings unit on your list grant you a cheap deepstrike easily worth it. Beasts of Nurgle are okay to include on a list to combine with Bloab/sloppity duo. (maybe one or two unit) Epidemius is really strong, no range limitation, you can use his dice even if he's dead, it's just awesome to have up to 7 fate dice on nurgle. Regarding the competitive meta, If you're not in 1 drop, just go for hunters on the heartland and fuck the number of drops, you're not so sensitive to be the first player and be double turned. Keep going, your game approach is so fresh and nice.
Super interesting takes. I just picked up Nurgle, only had a few matches with them. Is this list viable against Gargants? Or how would you go about facing off against them? My most common gaming partner runs them lol.
Love the analysis after some time has passed and some games have been played. It's interresting how good the book's internal balance is as after 25-30 games I think you can run a lot of different lists that are all very good, but I basically disagree with almost everything you said as far as what I think is the best/worst parts of the book, units, wheel, etc... (again... most things are very close in power in my opinion). LoL.
Probably I would take orghotts as well as LoA. Hes a bit too much of a liability as a general. Does mean you end up being 2 drops, but i think it's better overall.
I think you’ve overlooked the true value of the Spoilpox Scrivener. He’s better than the Bilepiper due to his Tally of Blows. +1 attacks to a pack of 20 plaguebearers is powerful. Additional attacks are gold dust for us! What do you think?
New player here with only a few games under my belt, Epidemius really surprised me here but your breakdown really made sense. My collection is very mortal based currently, 1 glottkin, 4 blightlords (1 LOA), x2 blightking units, x1 plague bearers, bloab, spoilpox, Festus the leechlord, lord of plagues and a lord of blights. Need to get myself some summon units. One thing that has confused myself and my other half who plays nighthaunts when we play is the battalions, am I understanding it correctly (P81) of the battletome is that if I have the units that meet the criteria, lets say the first one of having a mortal hero, I get 1 contagion point for every unit it itself slays? Many thanks for the video too, explained a lot of thought process/ decision making especially for us newbies, thrown a like. Tyty and take care ^^
Those battalions are for Path to Glory games, Path to Glory's rules start on pg 304 of the Big Rule Book (it came in dominion box, Yndrasta is on the cover), it's a narrative way of playing AOS, each new battletome has a section dedicated to this (they've all had a green border, so far), but they are supplements to those rules and that style of play. These rules don't apply to matched play, I not saying you don't know this, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. I haven't played the new Path to Glory, but I've been looking into it, a friend, in my group and I were talking about giving it a try over the summer (the month before the new GHB drops), this is my understanding of how it works, but I could be mistaken. If your Path to Glory roster contains this battalion (this battalion is something you have to take the first time you make a roster or acquire by winning battles there after, to complete a quest that unlocks it), you can include it when list building for your Path to Glory game. It requires a Maggotkin of Nurgle, Mortal, Hero (those are keywords found at the bottom of each warscroll), let's say you have a Lord of Blights (if you start small in Path to Glory, you may only have a hero), the Lord of Blights qualifies for the battalion, he would get the extra rule (Vectors of Contagion). Each time an enemy unit (unit could be 1 model like a hero, or 30 skeletons) is destroyed (the last model in the unit is removed from the table) by an attack made in the combat phase (wounds caused by attacks from the Lord of Blights, removes the last enemy model in the unit) by a unit from this battalion (Lord of Blights) you receive one contagion point. In Path to Glory the units available for list building can grow over time, you may acquire a Rotbringer Sorcerer and/or a Harbinger of Decay, if you took the battalion and had all 3 heroes, in your list, it'd apply to all of them each time the rule was triggered.
I tried Harbringer of Decay last game vs Khorne and I wipped out 3 units just with him. He is very strong for his abilities but I think that there is a good combo to do with Gutrot Spume at the start. If you get 3 extra command points and start first you can drop with Blitkinghs and do some crazy shit and bloc command abilities for your ennemy, when your army is slowly advancing on the battlefield. But is it a strategy to test.
Stuart, thank you! This is one of the best army reviews for advanced players that I have ever seen! I'll be happy to see more similar content in the future, so please don't stop
Thank you so much Phillip, you are too kind!
I've watched this review like 5 times now. And it really helped me understand the army and tactics a bit more. Just went 5-0 at a local GT here in the PNW!
Please make this a regular thing. Your insights are very clear and brought a new perspective to the book I’ve been waiting so long for.
I just listened to your video again, which is now over a year old. You were right about most things, only epidemius is never played!
Best Maggotkin video on the internet (I checked).
Has your opinion changed further since the making of this video? If so, it would be awesome to get an update with your current thoughts of the Maggotkin 😊 thank you for great content!
Great idea for content. I look firward to watching more
YES STUART! Been loving Epidemius since the book dropped and so many people were calling me crazy!! He's so good.
Bloab as well.
I think the best place to start on the wheel is turn 4. Give them the first turn if possible, no heroic action for any extra command points. The. Turn 2 you can get in with flies or orghotts and deny the pile ins
Loved the "after time has passed" analysis, really great and an amazing idea. Well executed ☺️
Loved this video. Very clear and understandable presentation
Love the series idea man! Keen to see more
Some absolutely blistering takes and I love it
I just got into AoS a couple months ago I have a 1000 point nurgle army build and about half way painted. I can't wait to start playing. Awesome video!
Very glad I stumbled on this, great work - very insightful. I’m about to finish painting a 2000 point army and given what you have said, I think I picked well.
The first time I bought an army cuz of their rules and not the models... It’s just so greatly written and feels like nurgle
Really like this idea as a series 🤙🏻 Ive been trying to get locals to run Harby! I think there's a great build their if you toss rustfang on him too so you can actually focus down a sizeable threat or make your opp think twice about trying to pin you in your deployment zone
Great video, thanks!
Looking forward to future videos. I agree with a lot of your takes. Been playing and having great success with a combination of Glott, 10 kings, and a Lord of Plagues with the Overpowering stench trait.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 thank you very much Stuart, your analysis is very good. I myself don’t play MON but after your video I am considering to try a mortal army. Please make more of those followup videos. Liked, subscribed and shared with my friends.
Cheers 🍻
PS. Currently I am running GUO in the Legion 😎
Really great concept! I look forward to watching the fyreslayers review.
This is great for a new nurgle boy
When can we expect a revisit to nurgle. It's about time isn't it? :)
I think the main time a 4+ ward on turn 1 is useful is if facing a Stormcast player who has built their list for a turn 1 alpha strike (or an Iron Jaws player who does this)
Amazing video! 👏 May your video herald the rise of Nurgle!
Love this idea for a series. I know they're not a proper 3rd edition battle tome yet, but Soulblight Gravelords would be a great one to do since it was written in the context of 2e but with 3e in mind.
Nice one Stu, great idea on the show
Always love voicing out against broken rules and NPE ❤️
great video Stuart, like the idea for this series so yes, please do more as and when you can. ps - ogors for the win!
Okay, so having watched this about 10 ten times and I've just gotta follow up on your suggestion of making a whole video dedicated to the Glottkin's Warscroll... pretty please?
Hey great content, excellent overview. Agree with everything except Beasts of Nurgle. BoN are one of the fastest units in our book with run/retreat/charge and are one of the few units that has 2+ damage on the warscroll. For 110 points, I don't feel bad about sacrificing one to negate unleash hell. While I think some players are taking too many, multiple single BoNs force splitting attacks and will be doing multiple d3 MW on the charge, and then again if they get an opportunity to retreat and charge right back in. How is straight MW worse than a few 4+ MW? Combine them with sloppity/wheel no pile in and you have a 110 unit that can completely cripple lots of units that cost 5x more.
I played against FS after their new tome, and started with 6. It turned out great, since i played first and used my Rot Sorc with Master of Magic and Arcane Tome to cast both of our "artilery" spells, leaving DC on EVERY SINGLE UNIT IN HIS ARMY. Since i started first, I rolled DC twice, garnering 16 mortal wounds across the board, with devastating effect to his heroes.
Great idea for a series and this first one for Nurgle is super helpful. Thanks for sharing your insights. Great to have this pushing back against some of the videos that seem to encourage list building purely off the back of knee-jerk reactions to new books/scrolls. Hope there'll be more to come
Love this! Don't necessarily agree with a fair bit, but keep them coming, quality stuff
Really nice video, your presentation was really well organized, i would change the setup (1 slide = 1 idea).
Regarding the content, i am a Nurgle player for a while and I agree with you on almost everythinhg.
Not sure about set Morbidex above Orgotts. Orgotts have +1 save auto with his free command points makes him more resilient vs all in damage output
Include a nurglings unit on your list grant you a cheap deepstrike easily worth it.
Beasts of Nurgle are okay to include on a list to combine with Bloab/sloppity duo. (maybe one or two unit)
Epidemius is really strong, no range limitation, you can use his dice even if he's dead, it's just awesome to have up to 7 fate dice on nurgle.
Regarding the competitive meta, If you're not in 1 drop, just go for hunters on the heartland and fuck the number of drops, you're not so sensitive to be the first player and be double turned.
Keep going, your game approach is so fresh and nice.
Super interesting takes. I just picked up Nurgle, only had a few matches with them. Is this list viable against Gargants? Or how would you go about facing off against them? My most common gaming partner runs them lol.
Love the analysis after some time has passed and some games have been played.
It's interresting how good the book's internal balance is as after 25-30 games I think you can run a lot of different lists that are all very good, but I basically disagree with almost everything you said as far as what I think is the best/worst parts of the book, units, wheel, etc... (again... most things are very close in power in my opinion). LoL.
Fair enough, I'd just ask that you give Epidemius a go! Trying to start a jabba the hut religion
Hi stuart for scale what other armies do you think are S Tier. Really enjoy your takes.
If you were going to pusgoyl spam, would you do the 14 and 2 LoA, or would you do 1 LoA, bloab, epedemus and the rest pusgoyls?
Probably I would take orghotts as well as LoA. Hes a bit too much of a liability as a general. Does mean you end up being 2 drops, but i think it's better overall.
the nurgle book is good and just add belakor to the list. it good for controlling your opponents around.
I think you’ve overlooked the true value of the Spoilpox Scrivener. He’s better than the Bilepiper due to his Tally of Blows. +1 attacks to a pack of 20 plaguebearers is powerful. Additional attacks are gold dust for us! What do you think?
Hooray nurgle
New player here with only a few games under my belt, Epidemius really surprised me here but your breakdown really made sense.
My collection is very mortal based currently, 1 glottkin, 4 blightlords (1 LOA), x2 blightking units, x1 plague bearers, bloab, spoilpox, Festus the leechlord, lord of plagues and a lord of blights.
Need to get myself some summon units.
One thing that has confused myself and my other half who plays nighthaunts when we play is the battalions, am I understanding it correctly (P81) of the battletome is that if I have the units that meet the criteria, lets say the first one of having a mortal hero, I get 1 contagion point for every unit it itself slays?
Many thanks for the video too, explained a lot of thought process/ decision making especially for us newbies, thrown a like.
Tyty and take care ^^
Those battalions are for Path to Glory games, Path to Glory's rules start on pg 304 of the Big Rule Book (it came in dominion box, Yndrasta is on the cover), it's a narrative way of playing AOS, each new battletome has a section dedicated to this (they've all had a green border, so far), but they are supplements to those rules and that style of play. These rules don't apply to matched play, I not saying you don't know this, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.
I haven't played the new Path to Glory, but I've been looking into it, a friend, in my group and I were talking about giving it a try over the summer (the month before the new GHB drops), this is my understanding of how it works, but I could be mistaken.
If your Path to Glory roster contains this battalion (this battalion is something you have to take the first time you make a roster or acquire by winning battles there after, to complete a quest that unlocks it), you can include it when list building for your Path to Glory game. It requires a Maggotkin of Nurgle, Mortal, Hero (those are keywords found at the bottom of each warscroll), let's say you have a Lord of Blights (if you start small in Path to Glory, you may only have a hero), the Lord of Blights qualifies for the battalion, he would get the extra rule (Vectors of Contagion). Each time an enemy unit (unit could be 1 model like a hero, or 30 skeletons) is destroyed (the last model in the unit is removed from the table) by an attack made in the combat phase (wounds caused by attacks from the Lord of Blights, removes the last enemy model in the unit) by a unit from this battalion (Lord of Blights) you receive one contagion point. In Path to Glory the units available for list building can grow over time, you may acquire a Rotbringer Sorcerer and/or a Harbinger of Decay, if you took the battalion and had all 3 heroes, in your list, it'd apply to all of them each time the rule was triggered.
I tried Harbringer of Decay last game vs Khorne and I wipped out 3 units just with him. He is very strong for his abilities but I think that there is a good combo to do with Gutrot Spume at the start. If you get 3 extra command points and start first you can drop with Blitkinghs and do some crazy shit and bloc command abilities for your ennemy, when your army is slowly advancing on the battlefield. But is it a strategy to test.
Yeah some of this definitely didn't age well
s tier for defos whats more s tier mortals or deamons or both both are strong in my sprogmcjob opinon
can summoned nurgling swarms be set up using their hidden infestations rule? because that rule only works during deployment.
Not edgy enough, but you’ll get there ❤️