For years we had loaders on 2 wheel drive tractors with no problems. We lived where in an area where it snowed in winter and we cleared the driveway, roads and barnyard. Just had to use something missing now and that is common sense
Biggest problem I see now days is a lot of people looking for a sub compact tractor have very little to no experience on equipment or just have no business on a tractor to begin with.
A bigger heavier farm tractor is a lot different then these small compact tractors. 2 totally different Point of Uses. I would have also added that its a gear transmission, which also lowers value compared to a hydro on these little tractors. and if its not green or orange its not as valuable. Again, this is for compacts and subcompacts.
@@danclas5983 i had a farmall cub before i had a sub compact, but i didnt have a loader for the cub (they are rare). i got rid of the cub only because the clutch was bad and it needed an engine rebuild. i didnt have time to work on it. the farmall cub is a small row crop and it was good practice. i had a 60" belly mower and a blade for snow removal
Mike, I agree this particular tractor has an uphill battle to sell and go for fair money. I do somewhat disagree with some of your evaluation though. To broadly say lacking front wheel assist, a loader, or power steering does not affect this tractor much. The type of person looking for this size tractor for the purpose of mowing, blading, and maybe a small snow blower wont care much for those options. They are looking for a less expensive option in my opinion. Tractors with front wheel assist, power steering, and loaders bring a premium and not all of the buyers want anything premium. With economy where it is right now, a lot of people I talk to are looking more for the less expensive and away from premium in the used market. This more basic tractors are selling really well in my area for jobs like mowing larger yards and properties with a benefit of the 3pt hitch for the driveway or snow. To get the best out of this tractor it needs to be running well and operating. I believe it will bring good value then with the blade and mower. Maybe even a little more than you would expect given the price of a newer tractor with front will assist standard and power steering.
3/31/24. Happy Easter 🐰🥕Mike! Today yur video on friend's Church's used JD 650 ( with busted Radiator)...all want to get idea of VALUE of used teactor. Thx Mike for showing everyone where to go (internet) to get parts & HP/other data + range of $$ value on Trade in (Dealer) & related Dealer resale $$. All this was great info! Super detailed & easy computer search. Your graphics was very easy to see, follow & very helpful...especially your 6-7 most significant features: Working condition (Y/N), HP, if has FE Loader, type of tires etc. Excellent info delivered in EZ to follow conversational manner. A+ Mike! Stay safe & carry on!👍✅️⚙️🔧🍺😊
I have a 84 model with 4x4 ag tires that just reached 600 hrs. It’s great for brush hogging and cleaning up around the barnyard. I had to replace the lift valves last year because it had been unused for several years while I was working out of the country. It does work in places that a bigger tractor can’t.
I have a 1989 JD 650 with 2,100 hours. It runs great and is handy with 4’ attachments on the 3 point arms. I removed the belly mower due to frustration with ground clearance. If the church elects not to repair this mower, I would be interested in buying it. Tim in northern TN
I had a 650 John Deere last year they produced them. I purchased it from the original owner with 152 hours and four new foam filled tires in 2004. Owner need to sell as he was injured at his job and needed to make his mortgage until his insurance kicked in. It was a four wheel drive with power steering and number 7 backhoe with two buckets. Came with three point hitch, drawbar, old tires that were like new for $6500. Four years ago I thought I needed a bigger hoe for on the farm. I listed it on Craigslist and sold it the same day for 10K it had 426 hours on it. Sure wish I would not have sold it the backhoe had a 7 foot reach and would work like crazy. I used the tires on my gray market Yanmar 1401d and replaced the original 3pt hitch with the one off the 650 I sold. One of the most powerful and nimble backhoes I ever operated.
Mike, today I went to a big sale in Mount Airy North Carolina. There was a rough-looking 650 John Deere for sale. It's sold for $2400. and I mean it was a rough old cob. And I have the video to prove what it looked like and what it sold for. Got to say that I was shocked.
They, the Yanmar built John Deere tractors were extremely well built units. I could not believe how it would dig comparted to my friends new 2006 26 hp Kubota. I tried buying back mine after I sold it offering $1000 more and could not do the deal. John Deere compacts today are not built entirely by Yanmar and lack the quality of the Yanmar built ones. @@neilkratzer3182
I believe you I will never part with my gray market 1401d; it was built before my 650 was; but, the same general platform. The Yanmar built John Deere were beasts compared to what John Deere is building today. Even though Deere still uses Yanmar engines they build the rest of the compacts themselves. I would never buy a new Deere compact; but, I would buy a new Yanmar compact.@@markgrehlinger7117
Had a 4 wheel drive 650 and what a tank and workhorse for only having 16hp, but with that manual trans would pull around most new ones. The hydros 655,755 etc were made in USA and the manual in Japan. This would be good for someone who likes to tinker and maybe get it running. I agree a loader would at least add a a lot of value as I added a Swartz loader to mine.
Many compacts from the ‘80s had manual steering. It’s not a dealbreaker, but it can be a pain with a loader. For that lawnmower tractor, manual steering is fine as long as someone is looking for that. My Ford 1700 with loader had manual steering. It still would except the steering gear was worn and I couldn’t readily get parts. So, I converted it to hydrostatic power steering. Whole new driving experience. Those Yanmar JDs aren’t bad and they were common enough that I’d think there are some aftermarket parts available. I think the Ford compacts from the same vintage were better tractors (made by Shibaura), but nowadays parts can definitely be hard to come by or insanely expensive (or both), which is too bad.
Great feature! It's a tough spot to be in... hopefully they were able to move forward with whatever decision they made. I think I'd go ahead and move on in a different direction. Grab one of the orange tractors that start with a K.
That tractor is worth fixing with only 1400 hours on it, assuming the hour meter works. The head is likely fine as the operator should have noticed immediately he wasn't cutting grass. A big steam cloud and coolant smell also would have appeared immediately. Radiator, drive shaft, and a couple hundred for miscellaneous and you're back mowing for a grand or just over on a tractor worth 3500 minimum. It will be worth that or more in another 10 years. That thing is done depreciating as long as it's still running and a replacement that size is 20k and increasing rapidly.
You could likely get a brand new radiator built from better materials than JD used for less than buying a used one and having it re-cored. That is the route I would go. A custom made radiator that small would be around $300 in central VA.
if you take the radiator to a REPUTABLE radiator shop, they can re-core it. they have fixed quite a few old car special jobs for me we have a 1986 jd 850 4x4 & loader. that is the BEST little tractor money can buy! it has NEVER let us down. starts every time, just keeps running!
The park i work at had one of these 650 John Deere's i think it was an 84 year model. It was in nowhere near this good condition it was trashed and thrashed but it was 4wd and had a loader. I think they got $2200 in trade in on a Kubota in 2020. I saw the dealer sold it for $6500 like 3 weeks later.
Mike your evaluation is typical of dealership and salesman. Not saying its incorrect but there is other factors in play here!? As a retired CAT&CUMMINGS knuckle buster I see a garage kept/ low hours and very likely reasonable maintained. Local radiator shop would be cheaper than a JD dealership and YANMAR has been building diesel engines for well over a hundred years and though my experience with YANMAR is limited I wouldn't hesitate to repair and the church could probably get another twenty plus years of service out of the OLD GAL.
I can't imagine the head has any issues. Those yanmar engines are almost bullet proof. I had several of them including the 650, 770, 790, 3005, x495, x758, 1025r. My brother had a 650 and now 670. That 650 with proper tires will pull more than a lot of these new hydros.
I imagine you were like a doctor at an indian medicine man convention doing this appraisal of a Deere of any sort, much less the vintage 650. Been there with a local community agriculture program that "inherited" an 80's vintage Yanmar-built machine... Folks trade cars every 5 or so years these days on average, but expect tractors to last 30 years or more?
If it goes for salvave and IF the mid mower is in decent shape, I could use it. My 650 is even older, I run it for many chores, but the mid mower is worn-out. Where are you guys?
Got one just like this one 1985 model 500 hrs 2wd turf tires never been in rain always in a house garage looks like it came off the factory line has a john deere 261 grooming mower was my fathers he passed 5 years ago taking my garage space wondering what is worth.
The drive shaft didn't go through the radiator because there is gearbox on the back to run the mower and a belt runs the mower. Parts are available from Yan Mar supplier from Texas. I like this show but he is so uninformed on these tractors.
Looked like a thousand dollar, 1st with cash deal on Marketplace. Worth something to a "Real mechanic" though 😂 but not $4,000 fixed, especially when you just got done pointing out all the negatives 🥴
It's not a tractor. it's just a lawnmower. Why don't they simply fix it up and donate it to some other charitable organization. it looks like a very well moneyed church. They can afford to do so.
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I like the format of this video much better than the usual content.
I also feel this video has a lot of value. If you read my comment Mike, well done sir!
For years we had loaders on 2 wheel drive tractors with no problems. We lived where in an area where it snowed in winter and we cleared the driveway, roads and barnyard. Just had to use something missing now and that is common sense
Biggest problem I see now days is a lot of people looking for a sub compact tractor have very little to no experience on equipment or just have no business on a tractor to begin with.
A bigger heavier farm tractor is a lot different then these small compact tractors. 2 totally different Point of Uses.
I would have also added that its a gear transmission, which also lowers value compared to a hydro on these little tractors.
and if its not green or orange its not as valuable. Again, this is for compacts and subcompacts.
@@danclas5983 i had a farmall cub before i had a sub compact, but i didnt have a loader for the cub (they are rare). i got rid of the cub only because the clutch was bad and it needed an engine rebuild. i didnt have time to work on it. the farmall cub is a small row crop and it was good practice. i had a 60" belly mower and a blade for snow removal
Mike, I agree this particular tractor has an uphill battle to sell and go for fair money. I do somewhat disagree with some of your evaluation though. To broadly say lacking front wheel assist, a loader, or power steering does not affect this tractor much. The type of person looking for this size tractor for the purpose of mowing, blading, and maybe a small snow blower wont care much for those options. They are looking for a less expensive option in my opinion. Tractors with front wheel assist, power steering, and loaders bring a premium and not all of the buyers want anything premium. With economy where it is right now, a lot of people I talk to are looking more for the less expensive and away from premium in the used market. This more basic tractors are selling really well in my area for jobs like mowing larger yards and properties with a benefit of the 3pt hitch for the driveway or snow. To get the best out of this tractor it needs to be running well and operating. I believe it will bring good value then with the blade and mower. Maybe even a little more than you would expect given the price of a newer tractor with front will assist standard and power steering.
3/31/24. Happy Easter 🐰🥕Mike! Today yur video on friend's Church's used JD 650 ( with busted Radiator)...all want to get idea of VALUE of used teactor.
Thx Mike for showing everyone where to go (internet) to get parts & HP/other data + range of $$ value on Trade in (Dealer) & related Dealer resale $$.
All this was great info! Super detailed & easy computer search. Your graphics was very easy to see, follow & very helpful...especially your 6-7 most significant features: Working condition (Y/N), HP, if has FE Loader, type of tires etc. Excellent info delivered in EZ to follow conversational manner. A+ Mike! Stay safe & carry on!👍✅️⚙️🔧🍺😊
I have a 84 model with 4x4 ag tires that just reached 600 hrs. It’s great for brush hogging and cleaning up around the barnyard. I had to replace the lift valves last year because it had been unused for several years while I was working out of the country. It does work in places that a bigger tractor can’t.
hi there interesting , i have a JD1050 .still seams to be running fine , i also have the front snow blower for it , good show john
I have a 1983 JD 750 4400 hours! Runs great! Good for hauling wood or a log splitter! Fun to drive!
I have a 1989 JD 650 with 2,100 hours. It runs great and is handy with 4’ attachments on the 3 point arms. I removed the belly mower due to frustration with ground clearance. If the church elects not to repair this mower, I would be interested in buying it. Tim in northern TN
I wish I lived closer to you. I would love to buy this tractor.
Great timing!
My dad is getting ready to sell his farm equipment. Thank you for the advice.
Best of luck!
We had the same model on our farm. Good starting easy on fuel. Used it for roto tilling and brush mowing. Sure did miss the power steering though.
Good job Mike....very informative , my 1st JD was a 750....but it had all the ' good stuff' !
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I had a 650 John Deere last year they produced them. I purchased it from the original owner with 152 hours and four new foam filled tires in 2004. Owner need to sell as he was injured at his job and needed to make his mortgage until his insurance kicked in. It was a four wheel drive with power steering and number 7 backhoe with two buckets. Came with three point hitch, drawbar, old tires that were like new for $6500. Four years ago I thought I needed a bigger hoe for on the farm. I listed it on Craigslist and sold it the same day for 10K it had 426 hours on it. Sure wish I would not have sold it the backhoe had a 7 foot reach and would work like crazy. I used the tires on my gray market Yanmar 1401d and replaced the original 3pt hitch with the one off the 650 I sold. One of the most powerful and nimble backhoes I ever operated.
Sure is and I still have my backhoe from 650 and now on my 770
Mike, today I went to a big sale in Mount Airy North Carolina. There was a rough-looking 650 John Deere for sale. It's sold for $2400. and I mean it was a rough old cob. And I have the video to prove what it looked like and what it sold for. Got to say that I was shocked.
They, the Yanmar built John Deere tractors were extremely well built units. I could not believe how it would dig comparted to my friends new 2006 26 hp Kubota. I tried buying back mine after I sold it offering $1000 more and could not do the deal. John Deere compacts today are not built entirely by Yanmar and lack the quality of the Yanmar built ones. @@neilkratzer3182
I believe you I will never part with my gray market 1401d; it was built before my 650 was; but, the same general platform. The Yanmar built John Deere were beasts compared to what John Deere is building today. Even though Deere still uses Yanmar engines they build the rest of the compacts themselves. I would never buy a new Deere compact; but, I would buy a new Yanmar compact.@@markgrehlinger7117
Had a 4 wheel drive 650 and what a tank and workhorse for only having 16hp, but with that manual trans would pull around most new ones. The hydros 655,755 etc were made in USA and the manual in Japan. This would be good for someone who likes to tinker and maybe get it running. I agree a loader would at least add a a lot of value as I added a Swartz loader to mine.
Many compacts from the ‘80s had manual steering. It’s not a dealbreaker, but it can be a pain with a loader. For that lawnmower tractor, manual steering is fine as long as someone is looking for that. My Ford 1700 with loader had manual steering. It still would except the steering gear was worn and I couldn’t readily get parts. So, I converted it to hydrostatic power steering. Whole new driving experience. Those Yanmar JDs aren’t bad and they were common enough that I’d think there are some aftermarket parts available. I think the Ford compacts from the same vintage were better tractors (made by Shibaura), but nowadays parts can definitely be hard to come by or insanely expensive (or both), which is too bad.
Thats a awesome little tractor. Would love to have it to mow the yard at my farm house
Great feature! It's a tough spot to be in... hopefully they were able to move forward with whatever decision they made. I think I'd go ahead and move on in a different direction. Grab one of the orange tractors that start with a K.
Thank you for this information!
That tractor is worth fixing with only 1400 hours on it, assuming the hour meter works. The head is likely fine as the operator should have noticed immediately he wasn't cutting grass. A big steam cloud and coolant smell also would have appeared immediately. Radiator, drive shaft, and a couple hundred for miscellaneous and you're back mowing for a grand or just over on a tractor worth 3500 minimum. It will be worth that or more in another 10 years. That thing is done depreciating as long as it's still running and a replacement that size is 20k and increasing rapidly.
You could likely get a brand new radiator built from better materials than JD used for less than buying a used one and having it re-cored. That is the route I would go. A custom made radiator that small would be around $300 in central VA.
if you take the radiator to a REPUTABLE radiator shop, they can re-core it. they have fixed quite a few old car special jobs for me
we have a 1986 jd 850 4x4 & loader. that is the BEST little tractor money can buy! it has NEVER let us down. starts every time, just keeps running!
i’d love to have that little tractor
Good parts man can find a rad outside of deere. Its green on dealer lot fixed be 5k all day long
What is the link to sign up for the Sand Hills tractor values?
Here it is: www.valueinsightportal.com/.
Can the Yanmar engine be used in any other tractors as a swap out?
Great information!
The park i work at had one of these 650 John Deere's i think it was an 84 year model. It was in nowhere near this good condition it was trashed and thrashed but it was 4wd and had a loader. I think they got $2200 in trade in on a Kubota in 2020. I saw the dealer sold it for $6500 like 3 weeks later.
Good information
If they sell for salvage I am interested. I live in SE Nebraska and have a 1984 650 fwd.
Cincinnati radiator in Muskogee Oklahoma can fix the radiator Muskogee is 3 or 4 hours from you
Mike your evaluation is typical of dealership and salesman. Not saying its incorrect but there is other factors in play here!? As a retired CAT&CUMMINGS knuckle buster I see a garage kept/ low hours and very likely reasonable maintained. Local radiator shop would be cheaper than a JD dealership and YANMAR has been building diesel engines for well over a hundred years and though my experience with YANMAR is limited I wouldn't hesitate to repair and the church could probably get another twenty plus years of service out of the OLD GAL.
I can't imagine the head has any issues. Those yanmar engines are almost bullet proof. I had several of them including the 650, 770, 790, 3005, x495, x758, 1025r. My brother had a 650 and now 670. That 650 with proper tires will pull more than a lot of these new hydros.
It would bring 4k running. Some people prefer those over zero turns.
The little Ford compact tractors of that time had John Deere beat to pieces! And yes, I saw right away it was 2wd and no loader. 😬
Also missing deck guards....
In good running condition that's a $3500-4000 tractor in Florida.
I imagine you were like a doctor at an indian medicine man convention doing this appraisal of a Deere of any sort, much less the vintage 650. Been there with a local community agriculture program that "inherited" an 80's vintage Yanmar-built machine... Folks trade cars every 5 or so years these days on average, but expect tractors to last 30 years or more?
A Yanmar? It would be interesting to see just what parts are still available through John Deere for it.
I would think that MOST parts are NLA.
If it goes for salvave and IF the mid mower is in decent shape, I could use it. My 650 is even older, I run it for many chores, but the mid mower is worn-out. Where are you guys?
Springfield, Missouri.
@@TractorMike A bit too far for me, Thanks,
Got one just like this one 1985 model 500 hrs 2wd turf tires never been in rain always in a house garage looks like it came off the factory line has a john deere 261 grooming mower was my fathers he passed 5 years ago taking my garage space wondering what is worth.
Where are you located? Tim in northern TN
Fix it and keep it😅
The drive shaft didn't go through the radiator because there is gearbox on the back to run the mower and a belt runs the mower. Parts are available from Yan Mar supplier from Texas. I like this show but he is so uninformed on these tractors.
Seems like if it were running properly it would be worth more now than what it cost new.
You are correct!
Looked like a thousand dollar, 1st with cash deal on Marketplace. Worth something to a "Real mechanic" though 😂 but not $4,000 fixed, especially when you just got done pointing out all the negatives 🥴
Some of those John Deeres are pretty old.
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That’s a 40 year old lawnmower. You would be lucky to get $400 for it. Even fixed up. You could get a brand new zero turn for $4000.
If you can find them for $400 let me know? I'll buy them.
Well I can tell you with these tractors they are good money all day long; I know the unit is a 4k plus unit all day with light repairs.
Nothing runs like a Deere or smells like a John
It's not a John Deere. It's made by Zetor
It was not made by Zeter it was made by Yanmar!
Actually made by Yanmar
It's not a tractor. it's just a lawnmower. Why don't they simply fix it up and donate it to some other charitable organization. it looks like a very well moneyed church. They can afford to do so.