Thanks for sharing the project Tom! We're really excited about what the LumenPnP can do, and incredibly grateful to the wonderful community that has helped get it there.
Hey! I just wanted to say that your project has convinced me that my next step as a maker will be to make my own boards. I never thought this would be possible.
Having been following you for a little over a year I'm super excited to see you in errf! Your voice is rough tho, seems you've been having a lot of demos! Congrats!
I spoke with Stephen at ERRF, he is an incredible person who is obviously very passionate about his project. It was great speaking with Stephen as his knowledge on this in incredible. Very well explained and an awesome project. I hope their company does very well. Maybe someday I will take him up on his offer to come visit their office! haha
I normally and am not fond of these types of presentation videos. This video had me enthralled the entire time. This guy is a great presenter and really knows his material. On top of all that Pennsylvania represents! I actually commented out loud when he mentioned it ran on Marlin. Good job, guys!!
I work on pick-and-place and flip-chip bonding machines in the semiconductor industry and it's super awesome to see this kind of tech making it's way to the enthusiast space. Awesome work guys, keep it up!
Some of the people in the OpenPnp community have started using old Siplace feeders, myself included. If you drop one of those things on the floor, they will dent the floor.
I am glad to be part of the Opulo community! There are so many fantastic minds working together, sharing their mods and suggestions for this machine. Stephen and his team take the “truly” open-source aspect very seriously. It is great to see this project being recognized.
Been watch Stephen for a couple of years now back when he was frustrated hand building his glow-tie's and decided to build his own pick-n-place machine just to automate that.... Its so good to see him at this point with a product! Keep going Stephen!
Opulo just so cool and it’s been fantastic seeing it come together. Stephen is so enthusiastic and I’m grateful for all the work he and his team is doing!
Just absolutely awesome. I am surprised & yet not surprised this exists. The open source maker community is wicked. This is such a game changer. Now if I only had need to make one.
These guys are amazing! I'm coming up on 50 really soon, and things have changed so much in my lifetime and career. I've worked as an electronic tech / designer / pcb layout guy, and we would have loved to have (couldn't have imagined, really) the technologies that are being made available open-source. I'm considering opening my own consumer electronics company, and this tech will probably make it possible to do so, as I fall right into that mid-volume area. Now we only need an environmentally safe way to make prototype or production boards in-house. I am hoping that additive technology might be created in the near future to do just that.
Nice to see the Opulo on this channel. I'd like to make my own PCB at least once in my life, but as a mechanical engineer the odds of me ever having any sort of use for a pick and place is very slim, but I love watching his videos and following their progress.
That system is SO impressive! It was definitely one of the top 3 things I saw at ERRF. Thanks for taking the time to get some a thorough review up for us to see!
His enthusiasm is great. This is a project that I didn't know we needed, but once you see it you understand how it could change the way small companies make boards. ERRF had so many fantastic products, I just didn't understand how innovate many were. Thanks for showing this in the detail you did.
It’s been really awesome to watch this project mature over the last few years. Going from a simple idea to a full-fledged open-source product. A+ Opulo team for making this, and Thomas you made an excellent video covering it!
Didn't notice you made a video on it. I've been glued to Stephen's channel for a while! (I DO NOT need a pnp, I just love to follow all the steps and improvements of the product and the company)
Awesome video! Stephen does a great job talking about the machine. Been following the dev for a few years now and really happy to have seen it in person!
I looked into building my own pick and place machine, but in the end my time is worth more than the time it would take to build and load one. My commercial PNP that holds 27 different reels was only $3500 purchased from China and runs at 20 times the speed of this unit. I do enjoy people that innovate, and this system is really neat. Machine vision is not necessary if the system is built with tight specs. A slight misalignment is tolerable because the component will straighten itself out during reflow.
@@Adharsh-e7x It was a Neoden TM-240A. I have upgraded to Neoden YY1 which has vision check of component angle, but I have turned off that vision check for several boards and its placement is still highly accurate.
He's really proud of that, and he should be - on the point about where it fits in the market so to speak, seems to me you could easily scale that Prusa style and build a farm of them if you needed to.
Following the LumenPNP for a long time, awesome to see it get even more recognition out here! That said did really think about the 3d printing vs the machine vision work they did until he mentioned it, but I wonder if incorperating that machine vision work into 3d printing would be a good way to do mixed part work. I.E. printer ontop of an existing structure like the LumenPNP does for adding parts on top of an existing thing.
Wow, what a passionate guy. I kinda want to get into making my own pcbs now, even though I'd have no way to use them & dont know anything about designing them!
SO cool! I have been watching Stephens video from jan 2020 multiple times just because he is so damn inspiring! Great to see that this project are still evolving and have now been a full develop product! So inspiring and cool!!
It's always a joy to see Stephen's energy.. He mentioned he has played around with enough 3d printers, but he didn't mention he was once working for FormLabs!
Oho! Very timely information; this goes in my files for, I hope, the first half of next year, when if things go even vaguely as planned I should be setting up for small-scale SMT assembly. I'll be watching for the automated feeders, and for the maximum number of feeders possible (some of my likely designs have 60 or so line items on the BOM, because analog stuff tends to involve lots of different values). Be nice to have an open-source, domestically-produced board-stuffing machine.
If you can't place all the components on the same machine, just having two machines and move the boards forward might help. This is bascially the same thing that happens on all the professional SMT assembly lines where there are usually 2-3 pick and place machines connected by belts in a row, to have enough feeder space for a full job. Sometimes it even makes sense to have different specialized machiens for different parts, like one "chip shooter" that is good at placing all the small passives, and a different machine that is set up for larger parts like connectors and ICs or even tray and loose components that can't be fed from reels.
This is a super cool idea that I can't in any way use lol. But it makes me wish that I DID do this kind of thing because it's such a fascinating product!
They (Adafruit/Sparkfun) are big enough already to buy more professional industrial pick and place machines that actually work way better (faster, more precise, reliable) and are directly integrated in a full assembly line with paste printers and reflow ovens.
In theory, yes. You need enough stepper driver outputs and hardware I/O to run a pick and place machine tho. 3 axis for X,Y,Z and 2 extra axis for the rotation of the pick and place heads. Then you need just some inputs for the endstop switches, and outputs for the camera-lights (2x), the vacuum pump, vacuum solenoids (2x) and an interface for the vacuum sensors (usually done over I2C). If you want to add feeders, they need a control interface too, currently the plan is to run them over RS485 and an extra single wire bus.
This was an interesting style of editing for a video. Just sorta letting him do his whole pitch/ad on the channel. I follow their youtube channel as well, and they don't post often, but its some really interesting stuff. Lets you get a real view into some cooler but more niche makery type things. I appreciate that the barrier to entry for creating products is lowering all the time. I f only we could deal with all the red tape involving nefarious patents and the patent system.
it would be cool to adapt this to be a swappable head for a 3d printer with a system like WhamBam Mutant. I know that the control would probably need to outside the printer but it could be nice to use the same hardware
Even though it's open source (!= free), I always try to give some money anyway, hope he and the team have a coffee option. :) Oh wait, they have a shop, haha. Check
Is there a list of all parts including the camaras, vaccuum pumps hollow shaft Nema11 motors and so on available. I want to build that machine by myself.
The positioning of some of the resistors and LED seems very random on that test board, I.e almost on the solder pads but not quite. I guess this was just setup because if that was an example of the accuracy it's a bit sad.
It takes quite a bit of tuning to get it perfect, and depending on the size of the component, you can place them quite a bit away from the perfect location, and it will correct itself in the reflow process. Thats one of the reasons 0402 and fine pitch ICs are still pretty hard to do reliably. Of course, the roller wheels riding in aluminium profiles are not really helping with precision placement. I'm pretty sure that who ever does place 0402 and 0.4mm pitch QFN with a "LumenPnP" has upgraded the motion system to linear rail bearings. (The upgrades are open sourced too tho, the community is really trying to help this thing to get better)
Trying to understand this, we are looking for doing small batches from 10-100 pr batch for our products, so if this can place things like uart, canbus, and standard processors it would be perfect for us, or is this just components that fits on these small strips, didn’t quite get it?
I don’t quite know the answer myself, but they have a really active “Discord” and also i’d imagine one could contact them via their email, website, or “LinkedIn” as well! Do you need help getting links or do you have them already? (Edit: Typos Fix)
Why assign it only mid-scale and not also lower-scale? I could use such an machine for producing one single part a year, as SMD-soldering is and will ever be black magic to me, with my blind eyes and my shaky sausage fingers :P
MOOD LOL with my essential tremor i can barely do Welding/Soldering let alone *micro soldering and placement* Granted I’d probably have it at a makerspace so others could use it all the other days of the year, but I totally want one for this reason too lol.
cool i can now make my own SMT and make my own company . P.S.: My job is to work with Samsung SM481 and the software is not updated from like 10 years and its buggy sometimes and makes my bloodboil .
Just as a disclaimer, OpenPnP can be buggy and get your blood boiling as well. But at least you have access to the source code and could potentially fix issues you encounter. There are a few people working on converting industrial PnP machines to work with OpenPnP, mostly they are using Neoden machines tho from what i've seen.
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SO GLAD you're covering Opulo! Stephen is a wonderful human and that project is incredible!
Agreed. I have no particular use for a Pick & Place machine, but I do look forward to new videos from Stephen!
I found it interesting that Tom just let him do the talking. That's rare isn't it?
People I watch on RUclips are all talking to eachother again, this is weird. 😂👍
Thanks for sharing the project Tom! We're really excited about what the LumenPnP can do, and incredibly grateful to the wonderful community that has helped get it there.
Number one Stephen! Amazing job. I'm your follower on your YT channel...it's awesome!! :) :)
Hey! I just wanted to say that your project has convinced me that my next step as a maker will be to make my own boards. I never thought this would be possible.
Having been following you for a little over a year I'm super excited to see you in errf! Your voice is rough tho, seems you've been having a lot of demos! Congrats!
You're all sold out :(
@@liljashy1463 They'll catch up.
Great to see this project getting recognized.
This guy is such an awesome communicator. Amazing skills.
Agreed, except for the up talk. I get triggered too easily.
I can't listen to him. Like nails on a chalkboard.🤢
This is probably the best presentation out of errf
OMG, That young man’s enthusiasm is so contagious 👍👍
I spoke with Stephen at ERRF, he is an incredible person who is obviously very passionate about his project. It was great speaking with Stephen as his knowledge on this in incredible. Very well explained and an awesome project. I hope their company does very well. Maybe someday I will take him up on his offer to come visit their office! haha
His enthusiasm for it is incredible too. And it's understandable given how amazing the project has turned out.
I have ZERO interest in making a PNP machine, but Stephen's videos are SO good I watch every one of them!!!
This is super cool. And I really appreciate you making it open source. We need more engineers like you guys.
I normally and am not fond of these types of presentation videos. This video had me enthralled the entire time. This guy is a great presenter and really knows his material. On top of all that Pennsylvania represents! I actually commented out loud when he mentioned it ran on Marlin. Good job, guys!!
I work on pick-and-place and flip-chip bonding machines in the semiconductor industry and it's super awesome to see this kind of tech making it's way to the enthusiast space. Awesome work guys, keep it up!
Some of the people in the OpenPnp community have started using old Siplace feeders, myself included. If you drop one of those things on the floor, they will dent the floor.
I am glad to be part of the Opulo community! There are so many fantastic minds working together, sharing their mods and suggestions for this machine. Stephen and his team take the “truly” open-source aspect very seriously. It is great to see this project being recognized.
But so far they have not been able to make normal feeders! And without them - it's nothing more than a toy.
I have been to a couple of the RepRap Festivals and did not see anything for placing parts on circuit boards.
Opulo is an opensource company that I'm glad is being highlighted here. Thanks!
Been watch Stephen for a couple of years now back when he was frustrated hand building his glow-tie's and decided to build his own pick-n-place machine just to automate that.... Its so good to see him at this point with a product! Keep going Stephen!
Opulo just so cool and it’s been fantastic seeing it come together. Stephen is so enthusiastic and I’m grateful for all the work he and his team is doing!
Just absolutely awesome. I am surprised & yet not surprised this exists. The open source maker community is wicked. This is such a game changer. Now if I only had need to make one.
These guys are amazing! I'm coming up on 50 really soon, and things have changed so much in my lifetime and career. I've worked as an electronic tech / designer / pcb layout guy, and we would have loved to have (couldn't have imagined, really) the technologies that are being made available open-source. I'm considering opening my own consumer electronics company, and this tech will probably make it possible to do so, as I fall right into that mid-volume area. Now we only need an environmentally safe way to make prototype or production boards in-house. I am hoping that additive technology might be created in the near future to do just that.
I've been following this project for so long. It's amazing how it keeps evolving
Nice to see the Opulo on this channel. I'd like to make my own PCB at least once in my life, but as a mechanical engineer the odds of me ever having any sort of use for a pick and place is very slim, but I love watching his videos and following their progress.
That system is SO impressive! It was definitely one of the top 3 things I saw at ERRF. Thanks for taking the time to get some a thorough review up for us to see!
I work for a company that builds very fast and very accurate placement machines but I still find this to be awesome!
His enthusiasm is great. This is a project that I didn't know we needed, but once you see it you understand how it could change the way small companies make boards. ERRF had so many fantastic products, I just didn't understand how innovate many were. Thanks for showing this in the detail you did.
I love his enthusiasm
This man loves his work!
Great project and really nice they stick to the reprap spirit
hahaha perhaps he loves his work a little too much. I have watched his vids on and off for a while. He is always ecstatic.
I have watched this guy's videos for a while. It is nice to see he got to a RepRap fesitval.
Nice guy, well spoken and clearly very intelligent, with an open project. Wish him the best!
I love how excited he gets at the idea that people are using the machine! Super cool
Why didn't you link his RUclips channel? Lots of videos about the development of LumenPNP on there
I've been following Stephen's channel almost since day one - so exciting to see what he has accomplished
It’s been really awesome to watch this project mature over the last few years. Going from a simple idea to a full-fledged open-source product. A+ Opulo team for making this, and Thomas you made an excellent video covering it!
Look how far he (and the team!) have come! Amazing to see the progress of all this.
its kind of amazing they can get any kind of thermal precision from a toaster oven, even one that is modified.
Didn't notice you made a video on it. I've been glued to Stephen's channel for a while! (I DO NOT need a pnp, I just love to follow all the steps and improvements of the product and the company)
My lumen just started its first board. Besides the pain with the strip feeders.... That thing is just awesome
Awesome video! Stephen does a great job talking about the machine. Been following the dev for a few years now and really happy to have seen it in person!
Awesome! We have also posted our ERRF 2022 video.
Great stuff. Awesome that people are doing this kind of work and open scource. Bravo 👏👏👏
I looked into building my own pick and place machine, but in the end my time is worth more than the time it would take to build and load one. My commercial PNP that holds 27 different reels was only $3500 purchased from China and runs at 20 times the speed of this unit. I do enjoy people that innovate, and this system is really neat. Machine vision is not necessary if the system is built with tight specs. A slight misalignment is tolerable because the component will straighten itself out during reflow.
can I know which machine do you use, I am looking for a similar one
@@Adharsh-e7x It was a Neoden TM-240A. I have upgraded to Neoden YY1 which has vision check of component angle, but I have turned off that vision check for several boards and its placement is still highly accurate.
I've been following this project for a while. There's a RUclips channel where you can follow the whole development process. It's pretty cool!
Good old Steve... he handed you brilliant video content to edit together there! Wonderful team, amazing product! 👏🏻
This guy’s s passion is off the charts! Amazing!
This is extremely interesting to me! I may soon be in the exact segment of production he mentions in the video.
He's really proud of that, and he should be - on the point about where it fits in the market so to speak, seems to me you could easily scale that Prusa style and build a farm of them if you needed to.
Not sure whether I'm more impressed by the machine or his charisma.
Awesome project, been following Stephen's channel for a while, and hoping one day I'll have a need for something like this.
Following the LumenPNP for a long time, awesome to see it get even more recognition out here!
That said did really think about the 3d printing vs the machine vision work they did until he mentioned it, but I wonder if incorperating that machine vision work into 3d printing would be a good way to do mixed part work. I.E. printer ontop of an existing structure like the LumenPNP does for adding parts on top of an existing thing.
Wow, what a passionate guy. I kinda want to get into making my own pcbs now, even though I'd have no way to use them & dont know anything about designing them!
Nice detail with the dual head on a single Z motor.
SO cool! I have been watching Stephens video from jan 2020 multiple times just because he is so damn inspiring! Great to see that this project are still evolving and have now been a full develop product! So inspiring and cool!!
i love this system... in to pcb development at the moment, but ill get myself an Opulo as soon as possible
Great project, Stephen is super passionate about it - awesome energy.
Been watching Stephen's YT channel for years. Such a smart dude and you can tell he's really into what he's doing. You should check him out.
I've never seen a pcb usb c connector like that, pretty clever.
Include his channel in the description of the video pls
what an awesome setup.
Cool example of good open source development :)
It's always a joy to see Stephen's energy.. He mentioned he has played around with enough 3d printers, but he didn't mention he was once working for FormLabs!
Watched the whole series of Stephen developing this thing. So cool to see it in production and going to shows. :)
Amazing! This is glorious, we live in best timeline!
Such a cool project. Team these guys with Ant CNC and you can almost have a full PCB manufacturing setup.
Oho! Very timely information; this goes in my files for, I hope, the first half of next year, when if things go even vaguely as planned I should be setting up for small-scale SMT assembly.
I'll be watching for the automated feeders, and for the maximum number of feeders possible (some of my likely designs have 60 or so line items on the BOM, because analog stuff tends to involve lots of different values). Be nice to have an open-source, domestically-produced board-stuffing machine.
If you can't place all the components on the same machine, just having two machines and move the boards forward might help. This is bascially the same thing that happens on all the professional SMT assembly lines where there are usually 2-3 pick and place machines connected by belts in a row, to have enough feeder space for a full job. Sometimes it even makes sense to have different specialized machiens for different parts, like one "chip shooter" that is good at placing all the small passives, and a different machine that is set up for larger parts like connectors and ICs or even tray and loose components that can't be fed from reels.
I will definitely build one of these! Very nice project, thanks for sharing guys❤️🔥
This is a super cool idea that I can't in any way use lol. But it makes me wish that I DID do this kind of thing because it's such a fascinating product!
amazing project stephen! thanks tom
It's a great project and worthy of our respect
AWESOME!
This is just so cool
I really like that guy! Please make him famous
Hey Thomas, you need to tell JLCPCB to create Hawaiian shirts too.
That's crazy amazing
Apparently I know for a fact I’m going to the next show because these are all awesome
I have most of the parts and would love to explore this project in detail.
I hope they have decent funds. All open-source projects should get development grants for a lot of reasons.
Stuff Made Here's puzzle solving machine mustve come in handy with this project
I just ordered one of these today.
Wow. This is so cool!
I personally probably don't need this (I want it, but that's a different matter), but I know SparkFun and Adafruit might be interested...
They (Adafruit/Sparkfun) are big enough already to buy more professional industrial pick and place machines that actually work way better (faster, more precise, reliable) and are directly integrated in a full assembly line with paste printers and reflow ovens.
What a great product!!
dude and the project seem super cool
Very cool. Nice work.
Does the fact that you have fed back the extra features into marlin, mean that I could use any marlin compatible board like an esp32 board?
In theory, yes. You need enough stepper driver outputs and hardware I/O to run a pick and place machine tho. 3 axis for X,Y,Z and 2 extra axis for the rotation of the pick and place heads. Then you need just some inputs for the endstop switches, and outputs for the camera-lights (2x), the vacuum pump, vacuum solenoids (2x) and an interface for the vacuum sensors (usually done over I2C). If you want to add feeders, they need a control interface too, currently the plan is to run them over RS485 and an extra single wire bus.
This was an interesting style of editing for a video. Just sorta letting him do his whole pitch/ad on the channel.
I follow their youtube channel as well, and they don't post often, but its some really interesting stuff. Lets you get a real view into some cooler but more niche makery type things. I appreciate that the barrier to entry for creating products is lowering all the time. I f only we could deal with all the red tape involving nefarious patents and the patent system.
perfect, great machine; thanks for sharing :)👍
Pretty dope 🙌
I love this!
We have one at the office for our prototypes because there to hard to make by hand
This is really cool ...
it would be cool to adapt this to be a swappable head for a 3d printer with a system like WhamBam Mutant. I know that the control would probably need to outside the printer but it could be nice to use the same hardware
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Even though it's open source (!= free), I always try to give some money anyway, hope he and the team have a coffee option. :) Oh wait, they have a shop, haha. Check
Is there a list of all parts including the camaras, vaccuum pumps hollow shaft Nema11 motors and so on available. I want to build that machine by myself.
The positioning of some of the resistors and LED seems very random on that test board, I.e almost on the solder pads but not quite. I guess this was just setup because if that was an example of the accuracy it's a bit sad.
It takes quite a bit of tuning to get it perfect, and depending on the size of the component, you can place them quite a bit away from the perfect location, and it will correct itself in the reflow process. Thats one of the reasons 0402 and fine pitch ICs are still pretty hard to do reliably. Of course, the roller wheels riding in aluminium profiles are not really helping with precision placement. I'm pretty sure that who ever does place 0402 and 0.4mm pitch QFN with a "LumenPnP" has upgraded the motion system to linear rail bearings. (The upgrades are open sourced too tho, the community is really trying to help this thing to get better)
Was there an USB-C PCB edge connector? Does someone have a drawing of that?
this is really cool
Trying to understand this, we are looking for doing small batches from 10-100 pr batch for our products, so if this can place things like uart, canbus, and standard processors it would be perfect for us, or is this just components that fits on these small strips, didn’t quite get it?
I don’t quite know the answer myself, but they have a really active “Discord” and also i’d imagine one could contact them via their email, website, or “LinkedIn” as well!
Do you need help getting links or do you have them already?
(Edit: Typos Fix)
You can place IC's just as well as passive components. OpenPnP even supports "tray feeders" where the parts are not picked up from tape ("strips").
Wow!
Why assign it only mid-scale and not also lower-scale? I could use such an machine for producing one single part a year, as SMD-soldering is and will ever be black magic to me, with my blind eyes and my shaky sausage fingers :P
MOOD LOL with my essential tremor i can barely do Welding/Soldering let alone *micro soldering and placement*
Granted I’d probably have it at a makerspace so others could use it all the other days of the year, but I totally want one for this reason too lol.
cool i can now make my own SMT and make my own company .
P.S.: My job is to work with Samsung SM481 and the software is not updated from like 10 years and its buggy sometimes and makes my bloodboil .
Just as a disclaimer, OpenPnP can be buggy and get your blood boiling as well. But at least you have access to the source code and could potentially fix issues you encounter. There are a few people working on converting industrial PnP machines to work with OpenPnP, mostly they are using Neoden machines tho from what i've seen.
Can we use it to build Raspberry Pis? :D
I wish I knew how to design a board and use something like this
Hi, do you want to start working together?