vlr Burgundy has their hands in a lot of in game events, hence by reading there events you learn a lot of spoilers for countries like England, America ect.
@@TrusteeNailDepends on the country but the target right now is to have all countries a novel's worth of reading content. Alot of them already has lots of content and the quality can really send people to tears. Its like a visual novel and HOI4 but noth are connrcted and both has to be played. Honestly this mod is insane that it literally revolutionised HOI4 gameplay.
If I remember, the first 2 years of development were expected for Vicky 2, so everything flew out the window with hoi4. that's why there's a big focus on societal reform and development
You know, the idea of a focus tree that's hidden until you explore it greatly increases RP over Strategy for the first few runs. While HoI4 is a strategy game, I feel like that slight prioritisation of RP might make the game more accessible and a bit more fun for its first few runs if it didn't show the whole focus trees when playing.
As a Tester of this mod, here are my recommendations: -Italy, Italy is very, very fun, you can go either democratic or remain Fascist, both of those paths are equally good: while being a democracy you can go as socialist, remain democratic or even reelect the fascist into power, you can play a major role in world politics (like joining either America or Japan). Remaining Fascist, on the other hand, will let you choose a more reformist kind of fascist (anything from gender equality to allowing Trade Unions and letting them play a major role in the economy) or more of a hard-line fascist and seeing how Italy slowing burins to the ground. -Germany, I will recommend you, Speer, because he has so much content and so interesting narrative with many mechanics. -Russia: There are many Russias that are incredible, ranging from wholesome to epic to very fucking cursed. More wholesome Russias: Tomsk (genuine democracy), Buryatia (idealist Leninism); More epic Russias: Vyatka (constitutional monarchy with the legitimate Romanov Heir), West Russian Revolutionary Front (Communist Junta), Chita (White army remanent with an unwilling, puppet Tsar), Magadan (Pragmatist Fascists, who can even join America's faction); More cursed Russias: Amur (Lead by the guy who is the vanilla fascist in the USSR, he leads a party of mobs inspired by Hitler), Omsk (they just want to kill Germany, nothing else), Aryan Brotherhood (they think that Slavs should become Aryans, so they start forcing themselves and the poor souls under them to speak german, and they kinda hate themselves because they are Russians, and Russians are the Untermensch in their eye) Some other cool alternatives: the USA, Göring's Germany, Kemerovo, Japan, I would also say that England has only a few years of content as of writing this, but they will have the full 10 years on July 31st, so if you gonna play next time after the 31st, then ignore everything I've said so far and play England because they are very, very awesome.
@@maelys8851 I didn't recommend Komi, because it's too overwhelming for a first Russia game in my opinion, but oh well, ISP just did a Burgundy game for the first game, the only nation that you shouldn't play as your first game.
I accidentally started war with the US through the captured pilot event chain. I thought fuck it might as well and nuked the world. I forgot to save and lost H O U R S of progress
@@ultra-papasmurf I went through the entire game only going to war with Madagascar, Western Russia, and The Slave Revolt. It was still fun though with the hundreds of events.
That is the idea behind the whole thing. Burgundy was given to Himmler after his coup attempt to keep him occupied and away from Germany proper. Lore-wise he just establashied brutal and absolute control over it by massacaring literally the entirety of northern france
in your on the side playthrough of Burgundy you should download the music mod and just listen to burgundian lullaby on repeat, it really helps you get into that psychopath mindset
Last time I was this early, people still thought Atlantropa was a good idea. oh my god i hate myself now i am never posting such a bad stereotypical joke again until next time i do
siberian black army was my first playthrough, unfortunately japan and america decided to go nuclear in 1968 so i was only just starting to stabilize the siberian free territory and about to expand again when i found out how major power wars go.
This mod is definitely for people that wants to read and learn the lore, not for map painters with only one goal of WC. Please for the love of god people, don't bitch and moan that you can't conquer stuff as major powers, the mod is set during a cold war and war between major powers directly is thermonuclear war. There goes my rant for no reason.
They also are very serious when they said they had kinda a goal to show that "map painting" like you can do in say Russia is usually gonna lead to more and more problems. Once you stabilize as one of the warlords into a regional power, well. All of a sudden you have a lot of shit to sort through to actually, you know, run a country.
@@TDenterpriser Goering isn't a map painter. He will inevitably collapse and take the Reich with him as it is not possible in any way to invade a nuclear power which becomes the only thing the militarists can do to save their economy built on plundering if he somehow is successful in Russia.
Honestly the lore seems so expansive, it's kind of nutty. Would love to see more of the global plans though, really awesome to see in combination with your already great commentary.
My friend has been telling me about this since December, explaining lore every other day in class, and I've been too hyped for a while now, can't wait to see how it actually is.
Hey, as someone who worked on the mod, I think a game as any of the Russian warlords who can unify would make for a good video, however if you're gonna do a personal game, the U.S. has some fantastic events, and America is a wonderful time, even if it's not the best for a video
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for Turkmenistan to do something, anything. Or is their leader too distracted by his love of horses to do anything? But seriously one of these days you need to play as Turkmenistan
@@R3GARnator There's still tons of fun added game mechanics (such as dealing with terrorist groups as Spain and managing your black market empire as Brittany) or for each country and there's a lot of wars you can fight in (South Africa War, Russia Unification and Goering WC just to name a few. The great writing just adds a whole new layer to the experience. You should give the mod a try.
I remember playing this mod, and there was an event line where a Japanese fishing boat had bumped into one of my cruisers. My immediate response was to declare war and launch nukes at them. You know a mods fucking great when you can end the world over shrimp
I think one nation to play might be Omsk I think it's called, you can get Svetlana Stalina, Stalin's daughter to reunite Russia under a sort of Putin style United Russia party.
Italians with nuclear weapons?? What are they going to make, Nucular Spaghetti? With a Hydrogen Pizza? same as I currently have dysentery shitting out my organs due to olive garden's food poisoning.
Get the mod! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2173766180
Ah yes i recommend i got around 3-5 fps
Bruh
No
No I don’t want to look at Russia and I have a question what happened to the tea in Great Britain
Omsk When?
Devs:Play burgundy last, it has a lot of spoilers for everything
Isorrow:plays it and shows it all to everyone
Yeah, story of devs' lives.
Gotta get those RUclips likes on top of that Reddit karma, for whatever reason
@@Baba-yv6ml Play Burgy, get confused and don't know why. (The dev: am I a fxxking joke to you?)
glad i read this comment before i watched too much of the video because i don't want to get spoiled too much. thanks for the heads up.
@@thechief00 No Problem
Thank you internet service provider.
@@AxxLAfriku what type of demonic entity even are you
@@AxxLAfriku this is my comment. Get out of here please.
@free wifi it is veiwbait.
@@Gavrilean7565 He's an Idiot who once got pushed because German YTers made fun of him
@@AxxLAfriku ??? May I beg your pardon
Mod creator: “Don’t play Burgundy first it spoils the mod”
ISP: “Well how bout I do anyway?”
Because its the main bad guy? I don't understand
vlr Burgundy has their hands in a lot of in game events, hence by reading there events you learn a lot of spoilers for countries like England, America ect.
@@defiant4761 aaaaah! I get it, thx for clarifying
yeah, once I saw he picked Burgundy, I was like whelp, guess I can't watch this video
Sam Phillips yeah real shame, I haven’t watched it. Can someone tell me if there are spoilers?
Fair warning: this mod is closer to a visual novel than your standard HOI4 experience, also do not play burgundy first time
no it isn't
@@Anthony-ct3cv I played 5 RFK games. Yes it is.
Some countries are visual novels until I'm guessing late game
Still better than base game
@@TrusteeNailDepends on the country but the target right now is to have all countries a novel's worth of reading content. Alot of them already has lots of content and the quality can really send people to tears. Its like a visual novel and HOI4 but noth are connrcted and both has to be played. Honestly this mod is insane that it literally revolutionised HOI4 gameplay.
Glad ISP finally played a visual novel.
500th
Ah yes, ISorrowsproductions mind slips further into insanity. Thank god his rival ISP is normal.
bruh what are you talking about? ISP is complete garbage. he doesnt have an ironside intro
And how is isp "normal" I think you've lost your mind bro
Why the blasphemy?
How about islovakproductions I mean he’s just amazing
There is the England update coming out this Friday which gives post civil war content.
Sweet, that's when I get back from vacation!
I know what my next game is now
I hope they do France too
@@greatjonumber4958 Both Frances are coming in a future update.
@@greatjonumber4958 Senile De Gaulle steps foot on the beaches of south France once more!
There is nothing more terrifying than the prospect of Italians having nuclear weaponry.
Ghandi: Our words are backed by nuclear weapons.
Italian nuclear weapons are probably going to flip sides once they are launched. So nothing to worry about.
Thats'a spicy meat ball!!
Ethiopians: Oh no! With such weaponry they can actually defeat us!
Sergey Doronin *cough* 1937 *cough*
Please do multiple play throughs on this, Also you should finish your burgundy game by finishing the plans and starting NUCLEAR WAR
Get Himmler'd
It is suspected that of the 6 years TNO was in development, 5 were on the Ordensstaat
Yes and no. Most of the Ordenstaat mechanics were implemented in the last six months, though the lore and events’ve been worked on for a couple years.
If I remember, the first 2 years of development were expected for Vicky 2, so everything flew out the window with hoi4. that's why there's a big focus on societal reform and development
>Burgundy
THERE IS ONLY PAIN UNDER THE BLACK SUN
THE BLACK SUN RISES
*bruhgundy
@@joelawrence3954 bruhgundy moment
You know, the idea of a focus tree that's hidden until you explore it greatly increases RP over Strategy for the first few runs.
While HoI4 is a strategy game, I feel like that slight prioritisation of RP might make the game more accessible and a bit more fun for its first few runs if it didn't show the whole focus trees when playing.
When ISP cares about a mods lore so much that he actually keeps the lore bits in the video, you'll know that the mod is good
Devs: "NO! You can't play Burgundy _first!_ It spoils all the other events in the game!"
iSorrow: "Hehe Himm go lerr"
Imagine being into Posadism, but then you said to yourself "not enough NAZISM in it."
NazBol but it's Posadism.
@@generalaccount6531
A C C E L E R A T E
@Иван Распутин ruskies arent aryan though
What is that Posdism you are talking about?
@Иван Распутин They sound like akceleracionists from RF.
As a Tester of this mod, here are my recommendations:
-Italy, Italy is very, very fun, you can go either democratic or remain Fascist, both of those paths are equally good: while being a democracy you can go as socialist, remain democratic or even reelect the fascist into power, you can play a major role in world politics (like joining either America or Japan). Remaining Fascist, on the other hand, will let you choose a more reformist kind of fascist (anything from gender equality to allowing Trade Unions and letting them play a major role in the economy) or more of a hard-line fascist and seeing how Italy slowing burins to the ground.
-Germany, I will recommend you, Speer, because he has so much content and so interesting narrative with many mechanics.
-Russia: There are many Russias that are incredible, ranging from wholesome to epic to very fucking cursed. More wholesome Russias: Tomsk (genuine democracy), Buryatia (idealist Leninism); More epic Russias: Vyatka (constitutional monarchy with the legitimate Romanov Heir), West Russian Revolutionary Front (Communist Junta), Chita (White army remanent with an unwilling, puppet Tsar), Magadan (Pragmatist Fascists, who can even join America's faction); More cursed Russias: Amur (Lead by the guy who is the vanilla fascist in the USSR, he leads a party of mobs inspired by Hitler), Omsk (they just want to kill Germany, nothing else), Aryan Brotherhood (they think that Slavs should become Aryans, so they start forcing themselves and the poor souls under them to speak german, and they kinda hate themselves because they are Russians, and Russians are the Untermensch in their eye)
Some other cool alternatives: the USA, Göring's Germany, Kemerovo, Japan,
I would also say that England has only a few years of content as of writing this, but they will have the full 10 years on July 31st, so if you gonna play next time after the 31st, then ignore everything I've said so far and play England because they are very, very awesome.
I just want to say.. Monarchist Komi. *cough*
*Heyl Fyrer Vegner!* Aryanism is, like, a state of mind bruh. Also the names are great, I highly enjoy just reading them.
ayyyy thanks for the comprehensive guide! glad to hear Japan is getting a lot of love, because in other mods Asia tends to get overlooked...
Italy lacks Loc
@@maelys8851 I didn't recommend Komi, because it's too overwhelming for a first Russia game in my opinion, but oh well, ISP just did a Burgundy game for the first game, the only nation that you shouldn't play as your first game.
I did the democratic path for germany and it was honestly really fun, but it took literal HOURS.
How do you do demoractic path
@@voidcatto1805 Speer
@@brandtconor1 yup
I accidentally started war with the US through the captured pilot event chain. I thought fuck it might as well and nuked the world.
I forgot to save and lost H O U R S of progress
@@ultra-papasmurf I went through the entire game only going to war with Madagascar, Western Russia, and The Slave Revolt. It was still fun though with the hundreds of events.
Honestly Burgundy would be so unstable if it actually existed.
I mean, it's basically Belgium Plus, so that's a given.
It's a Frankenstein's monster that's bound to collapse anyway, it just has plot armor for like 20 years.
When the Devs add the next decade, Himmler will die and Bruhgundy will collapse in 1981 or 1982 and the world will be saved
It is.
That is the idea behind the whole thing. Burgundy was given to Himmler after his coup attempt to keep him occupied and away from Germany proper. Lore-wise he just establashied brutal and absolute control over it by massacaring literally the entirety of northern france
Last time i was this early the med wasn't drained
@@AxxLAfriku lol no one cares
@@AxxLAfriku I've never read something so autistic in my entire life
The med will always be drain gang
@@timgrungus2234 no pls I live near Venice
@@AxxLAfriku Those 2 "girlfriends" of yours sure have some low standards
Play the *Aryan Brotherhood* it's the biggest ww2 reenactment group in the world in 1964.
Just finished my AB play through, fun times
Ah yes, I hope he dosen't fall into a cliff of Hyperborean Schizophrenia.
Me looking at Russia:
“Look how they massacred my boy.”
I just got done playing the Tsar and going full return of the king on Russia. Hearing that Russian victory music was so nice.
Literally
*our* boy
Kinggundragon Yeah, go with Korobeiniki boi
I managed to reunite the Russian warlords under a military dictatorship and a socialist technocracy
in your on the side playthrough of Burgundy you should download the music mod and just listen to burgundian lullaby on repeat, it really helps you get into that psychopath mindset
Holy shucks he’s playing the funny country!!!!!!
Why is it a meme that the country is funny.
@@marny3559 Burgsys Burgundy FUNNI
Haha le funi wacky guy wants to kill everyone. Lol
Based Shlad-poster
Burger country funny!!!!
Last time I was this early, people still thought Atlantropa was a good idea.
oh my god i hate myself now i am never posting such a bad stereotypical joke again until next time i do
1920s
The Siberian Black Army was a fun playthrough.
siberian black army was my first playthrough, unfortunately japan and america decided to go nuclear in 1968 so i was only just starting to stabilize the siberian free territory and about to expand again when i found out how major power wars go.
TNO Devs: Shrinks Burgundy
This mod is definitely for people that wants to read and learn the lore, not for map painters with only one goal of WC. Please for the love of god people, don't bitch and moan that you can't conquer stuff as major powers, the mod is set during a cold war and war between major powers directly is thermonuclear war.
There goes my rant for no reason.
Keiserreich strikes a good balance. This, might as well be a visual novel.
They also are very serious when they said they had kinda a goal to show that "map painting" like you can do in say Russia is usually gonna lead to more and more problems. Once you stabilize as one of the warlords into a regional power, well. All of a sudden you have a lot of shit to sort through to actually, you know, run a country.
@@riverroth3688 I think not every mod needs to be for everyone. They did an excellent job at what they wanted to do.
Not if you play Goering
@@TDenterpriser Goering isn't a map painter. He will inevitably collapse and take the Reich with him as it is not possible in any way to invade a nuclear power which becomes the only thing the militarists can do to save their economy built on plundering if he somehow is successful in Russia.
I think some people have said in the discord that you wouldn't like the mod because its is lore-heavy. It's good to see that it's been proven wrong
“They didn’t get 7-1” 😂😂😂😂😂
I died at that 😂
Brazilians: too soon man 😞
Guilherme Ludovico That’s why they get when they have 2 clowns in defense
Too soon for 8-2
Honestly the lore seems so expansive, it's kind of nutty. Would love to see more of the global plans though, really awesome to see in combination with your already great commentary.
This is basically a new game now, isn’t it?
My friend has been telling me about this since December, explaining lore every other day in class, and I've been too hyped for a while now, can't wait to see how it actually is.
ISP: Uploads
Me: ah yes, Vic2 content
ISP: HoI4
Me: ...impossible...the prophecies... finally came true... pog
Wow ISP liking hoi4? Never thought i'd see the day
The key is, this isn't HOI4, this is a visual novel.
@@R3GARnator Have you played the mod?
@Mathijs Krijger, de Yeah, and some of the novels are wholesome as shit. Some of the SBA events made me grin ear to ear.
1:17 hey. I see that name!! You can’t hide LÉON DEGRELLE from me!! Shouty boi is back baby! *THE BELGIAN LION ROARS ONCE MORE!!!*
The US after there 100th failed assassination attempt on Castro “what should we do”. FBI: 2:53
There are talks Castro and Che would be CIA sponsored guerillas here due to the US support of socialist movements for proxy wars.
Turkey took northern Iraq, where’s Saddam when you need him
@Lone Wolf he actually appears (SPOILER) during the oil crisis
He actually is a leader in an uprising that happens later on
They're just there to get rid of the Kurds. They'll leave after they're done... eventually...
-So long as NATO doesn't f*ck it up again.- Eventually.
The SS-Burgundy system is soooooo complicated that makes think that dev make it like this so only “Übermensch“ can play it well.
As the person who did like 3 tests for burgundy, those missing shines make me sad. (also thanks for playing the warcrime state :panzersbreakingpoint:)
You can’t do TNO server emojis here.
@@luxborealis too bad
TNO dev “I want neon”
TNO graphics designer “ Y E S “
The Chad Tno vs the virgin Kaisereich.
Even in an alternate universe where everything has gone to shit, the Italians still find a way to switch sides
6:13
It’s a beautiful day outside. Birds are singing, Flowers are blooming. Perfect weather for a game of catch.
Hey, as someone who worked on the mod, I think a game as any of the Russian warlords who can unify would make for a good video, however if you're gonna do a personal game, the U.S. has some fantastic events, and America is a wonderful time, even if it's not the best for a video
HRE messed me up. I just wanted to restore the Romanovs.
Turkey:Has Mosul and Thessoloniki.
Nationalists:Allow us to introduce ourselves
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for Turkmenistan to do something, anything. Or is their leader too distracted by his love of horses to do anything? But seriously one of these days you need to play as Turkmenistan
I don't think isorrows watches nfkdrz
Justin Ambru dude we are all Russian or Turkemens here, we don’t need some slick youtubers
The Stans don't have content yet.
Heres a slice of marble cake
@@molodoy.. that wasn't a negative remark, I'm just sayin' isp doesn't watch him.
4:49
I don’t wanna set the world on fire, baby, I just want to start a flame in your heart.
News): Italy Acquires Nuclear Weapons
Me): Oh no, the Pasta has gone nuclear.
And Spain is what I call a 12 way civil war gang bang edition
You should play the US forces in Iceland, 10/10 would play it again, it is the best love story since twilight
What happened there?
I kinda miss the isp, drew, alex collabs
I liked them too, but their fans were all entitled and trollish, and so isorrow decided it wasn't worth the grief.
Obviously he plays as burgundy, that’s an ISP move
Bruhgundy
Italy got the best focus and alt history in this mod
I've played 150 hours of TNO including the two previous mods
This mod is insanely good! Going down the Speer path as germany with the gang of four is really nice!
Why were you trying to shave at 5:27. Just wait for the video to end you silly billy.
I know this might get buried but if you want to know about all the lore and such the RUclipsr The Woodstock has quite a few videos going over it
Imma just second this comment Woodstock has some amazing shit
Well here comes the flood of people upset you can't map paint the globe or nuke your enemies.
You mean upset that the mod turns this into a Visual Novel?
@@R3GARnator There's still tons of fun added game mechanics (such as dealing with terrorist groups as Spain and managing your black market empire as Brittany) or for each country and there's a lot of wars you can fight in (South Africa War, Russia Unification and Goering WC just to name a few. The great writing just adds a whole new layer to the experience. You should give the mod a try.
@@ryanwingfield6092 But but muh RK Amerika
Hoi4 is a excellent way to drive someone to the edge of insanity.
Do one of the Russian warlords, the soviet one in Arkhangelsk has a lot of conquest and land to grab
Can't wait to see ISorrow play Komi, the sheer chaos...
3:12 As a Brazilian, I've to say... That's still painful....
maybe if a art professional looked at "The New Order"s Russia he would've let in Mr. Ritleh pass art school.
Someone needs to make a mod where the whole point is to play as Fegelein and sabotage the Reich's plans with your zany antics.
"I don't wanna set the world... on... fire..."
0:10 D E M O N E T I Z E D
You need to play Aryan brotherhood but go with the other leader you get a pretty wacky plot line
I accidentally did it on my first play through, had no idea what I was getting myself into, it was completely mad.
Who knew that Hitler and the NAzi's where Judeo-Masonic puppets all this time!
@@perpetualnightmare6638 No other leader has helped the international perception of the Jewish people more than Adolf Hitler.
>Aryan Brotherhood unifies Russia.
*Breed me Daddy!*
What
He didn't even try to down the burgundy sane path smh
I wonder how long it will take until some mad lad makes something even better.
9:30 Revolutionary Burger King 👑 crown ha ha
As a French, it hurts to see one of your favorite youtuber wiping out your country.
Maybach I mean Free France still exists
Also in Burgundy, French is literally purged from the face of its soil.
Bruh ಠ_ಠ
I remember playing this mod, and there was an event line where a Japanese fishing boat had bumped into one of my cruisers. My immediate response was to declare war and launch nukes at them. You know a mods fucking great when you can end the world over shrimp
Play as Komi and go despotist under Taboritsky good things happen
Yeah... G O O D T H I N G S F O R S U R E.
he's alive i promise guys seriously
I love the cheery music as he literally enslaves and wipes people off the face of the earth
Last time I was this early we were doing March of the eagles
Bring back March of the eagles
"..and for what felt like the first time in years..Himmler smiled". So freaking chilling
It doesn’t matter what alternate timeline ISP plays, Phillipe Petain is still going to jail.
Wait till you here the De Gaulle has gone mad and wants to invade mainland france from his colonial.outpost of Ivory Coast
citus333 sounds like something de gaulle would do
I will now restart my Burgundy campaign. I did not know you could take skilled workers from the provinces because this mod is so out there. Thank you!
I think one nation to play might be Omsk I think it's called, you can get Svetlana Stalina, Stalin's daughter to reunite Russia under a sort of Putin style United Russia party.
Thats Komi but Omsk Is also very interesting.
@@patrikkalus5567 Ah. Thank you for the correction!
@@patrikkalus5567 Virgin Great Purge vs. Chad Great Trial
Italians with nuclear weapons?? What are they going to make, Nucular Spaghetti? With a Hydrogen Pizza? same as I currently have dysentery shitting out my organs due to olive garden's food poisoning.
A Roman legion can spawn in Turkey. Idk how to have it happen without commands. Setowner rmn on Lazio is the command.
I love he takes dark and Horrible scenarios mods and he literally makes Comedy out of them
*AND UNLIKE END OF A NEW BEGINNING...*
I was considering the darkness of this mod but now that I see that you are the dear leader let's do it!
Atlantropa is now gone ...
The borders of Russia was Hitler's last "fuck you" to his art teacher.
Guess it's Speer time baby
please i have been playing TNO for the last 3 days playing speer again and again send help
I didn't think it was possible but Italy still managed to switch sides in this universe
Ah, so Ratman is literally the CIA in this mod, gotcha.
Also the CIA is literally the CIA
When I first saw the notification for this video without looking at the thumbnail, I honestly thought it was about the Hong Kong mod.
play as tibet
5:30 Oh I hear that Hitachi Wand iSorrow, I hear it.
HOI4 is just the tutorial
This...
This is the true game and it's free
It's interesting they are doing the project atlantropa
It's as if the CIA had its own country, but pretended they were the Potomac Indians.
How could you say something so true yet so brave
Now I can't help but imagine glow-in-the-darks wearing Indian garb complete with feathers.
@@tibbygaycat Thank you for being an Eric who knows how to use proper English.
You ever just want to manage 2 civil wars at once, while getting invaded from the North, then South Africa is the tag for you!
I just realised that he wasnt playing germany
Italy acquires nuclear weapons - and the weapons themselves switch from Fission to fusion, after it becomes clear that Fusion is the winning side.
I love this video is tagged "nuke time"
so much detail they remembered Sheffield had a massive steel industry