c'est un peu insultant d'entendre "very old" et 1986 dans la même video. Clairement, les photos ressemblent aux années 80 en revanche c'est l'appareil photo qui me semble hors contexte
@@xtof1er Désolé que vous vous sentiez comme ça ! Cependant, dans le contexte, un film non développé est considéré comme ancien lorsqu'il a déjà dépassé la date de péremption qui est généralement de 2 ans après sa fabrication. (Sorry you feel this way! However, in the context, an undeveloped film is considered old when it has already passed the expiration date which is usually 2 years after its manufacture.)
LOL, I took photography classes in high school and was wondering what specialty equipment I would need. Then the teacher reaches into his pocket and produces the most important (he says!) tool needed: a 99 cent bottle opener.
I use a bottle opener to open 35mm film canisters and a pair of little kiddie scissors to cut the leader. They rounded on the end so I won't hurt myself doing things by feel.
I used to break the seal with my fingers. The interesting part was the other end of the film, which is attached to the backing paper, and you had to tear off in the dark. Very often you'd see a spark caused by static electricity, but it never caused any fogging on the film.
Wonderful video and great detective work. I am amazed that the subway door handles haven't changed in four decades. That means they must be still using the same subway train carriages.
That Kodacolor II Film was introduced 1972. If it is an ISO 80 it is from 1972-1975. If it is an ISO 100 it is from 1972 - 1986 (unsure). It was the first Kodak color negative film to use the C-41 process. It is marked on the film label you show at the beginning. I think that is the reason that the lab machine was able to process it.
DOOOD I BEEN TO THAT PLACE TOO! like i'm from england so i been on the metro during a weekend trip but i remember this station >.....< cos it's like a mile up from the tower.
I'm thinking at 3:41 the picture from inside the metro car might have been taken by accident because of the angle. The woman looks to be from an advertisement on the wall of the station. Paris must have a deal with the subway car manufacturers. I have only seen latches on the doors like that in Paris.
propbibly could have eeked out alitle more information by not doing the bleach step. the bleach step removes the silver basically the black and white image used to make the color image in the film. but since the dyes in color film reely just go away over time there isn't any color for the black and white to transfer its image to better to just keep it and get all the info possible. i don't know if its possible with developing mechienes like that tho.
Excellent ! J'espère que la famille verra cette vidéo et qu'elle se manifestera. J'ai conscience que c'est très peu probable, mais l'espoir fait vivre !
Watching this video makes me really want to see old photos with Kodak film that I haven't had time to print because the film printing shop where I live has switched to digital printing. the film is more than 10 years old and I still keep it well, hopefully, someday someone can help me print it and I see the result
I think they were going to the Eiffel Tower to take pictures but the kids got a hold of the camera and managed to wind up the rest of the roll of film or maybe the camera got stolen. That's why there's only 5 exposures on it and the train station, which happens to be the one closest to the Eiffel Tower, is the last (2:35).
@@norbertfleck812 I agree. It doesn't look like something people would waste valuable space for photos for at least the next some 20 years until the rise of digital cameras. It would not surprise me with the point of view fairly low, that it was the work of one of the kids from photos before who wasted a shot on the doors.
@@norbertfleck812 Why would someone steal a camera and then doing nothing with it so it ends up at a flea market with still that exposed film inside? The thief saw it was 120 film and not 135 so useless for him/her?
I bought a camera online, found a film inside. Developed it, found pictures of people smoking, in their bamboo chairs, with vintage cars in the background, and a vintage TV. Emailed the seller, her mom was in those pictures, she barely had any pictures of her, so she was really happy with those as her mom died not long after. It was from 1964 I believe.
@@boxenjoyerkona To be fair it was a really old camera at the time already when those pictures were taken (1930 or so, bergheil voightlander fyi) so I wouldnt expect pictures of my mom on there either if she died in 2000 and the camera was from 1976
Imagine, how awkward it could be, if you’re taking some extreme porn photos and forgetting about it, and after 35 years some random guy is bringing these photos back to you
It happens! Had a customer bring in six rolls of original Agfa-gevaert Vista a while back (1995-2004ish?). One roll was all naked pictures of her husband, who had been dead for a decade or so. This became awkward when I went to buy lunch, got to the cashier and the customer (who happened to be behind me in the queue) loudly interrupted the sale to tell the cashier how I had just seen her dead husbands' Penis.
So many porn movies start that way. As a flooring installer you would be shocked what we used to find that people would leave behind after knowing for weeks we were coming. You completely empty someone's bedroom that has lived there for years, they forget all kinds of stuff. Home made porn, guns, toys, drugs, you name it we have found it and trust me you really don't want to especially if the customer is standing there. At one point I actually starting telling my customers when scheduling the install, "they will take apart every part of the room, they will open draws and in some cases due to weight even remove them (if you stash things behind the draws, found 10 grand there once), they will take the mattress off the box spring (famous for loaded guns and loaded toys), anything off the floors in the closets (shotguns), etc, etc. I would even mention half jokingly, if you have a secrete door where you hide your 20lbs of weed behind, put the weed in the trunk of your car along with the rest of the stuff you don't want a installer to see. I say half joking because we also found that at least 5 times over the years.
The level of resolution you were able to discern from a 35 year-old roll of 120 Kodacolor II truly boggled my mind. It looked like magic. That software is really something else.
@@RaccoonCityPoliceDept That is wrong and not an accurate of physical reality. All media has a resolution limit. This is all basic non-flat-earth science.
david It shows your lack of politeness and I assume you lacking empathy and respect too. Tell me, why is he a moron and don’t come with an empty answer? 🙄
It's amazing what can be recovered. My late mother-in-law had a 16 mm film taken by a family member 50 years earlier. It was too brittle to run through a projector and you could barely see an image if you held it up to the light. But a lab transferred it frame by frame to video tape and we were able to watch it (in black and white) as if it was just taken. I could even recognize her as a teen. Living history.
I think the besr way is spreading the video on France Facebook. Starting in france sales groups... Post the video on official france Tv Facebook channels. Good Look
how will he find them, he's not michael bloomberg to plaster whole france with giant billboards with these images...and perhaps not only france....chances of somebody seeing this video are slim
@@MathieuStern Excellent work. I have done similar exercises. Once I did identify the people and they sent me some new film as a thank you, which was great. I have identified another location which only took me a few minutes on the internet and I have had two complete mysteries. One film only had one usable colour image on it and it is much worse than the results that you got from this film.I guess if we posted them somewhere the six degrees of separation rule could locate them sooner or later. The camera in question was not a Lubitel but a similar quality TLR.
JM Tubbs Indeed the separation rule is the best way possible to find someone and, perhaps the fastest way possible too. Have a wonderful time and be blessed. ✌️
*We need to get these negatives back to the original family, and if they're up for it, interview them about their family and the story behind these photos!!*
Just don't give the story to that one YT site that click-baits, spends half-an-hour explaining the premise, then re-explains the premise as it applies to other relative explanations, then - in twenty-five seconds - explains the photos.
@@edixasanchezpacheco3692 i'd be willing to bet, more often than not, the folks in the pictures don't really care. i love this stort of stuff, but let's be real
LOL you just like to complain don't you. Did it occur to you that the French laundry powder and the French rail station also prove it's France. Oh, and the fact he found the film in France.
Thought the same, and tried to find something myself... Heck, I have to say hats off for finding that ad alone... Guess writing to the company directly to find out from when to when that logo was used ist the best idea 👌🏼
The Gama logo on the box in the photo looks different from the one in the commercial, though. They're very similar but the font in the photo has more of an outline and the bottom baseline of the word "Gama" is curved while it looks straight in the commercial. I don't think it's from that much earlier than the commercial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was late 1970s. I also suspect that the subway photo was taken several years after the rest of the shots.
@@2degucitas Looking at the 1986 Gama commercial again, I do see a drop shadow around the script part of the logo that somewhat matches the drop shadow seen on the box in the photo. The drop shadow seems more pronounced on the box in the photo compared to the one in the commercial but that could be attributable to just how the different boxes were printed (the one in the commercial was probably a mock-up printed with precision compared to mass-produced boxes). I thought the font in the commercial had a full shadow outline but I think the upper left part of the outline are just video artifacts. The box in the commercial also seems to have more colours than the one in the photo but there could be some sun-bleaching on the photo box or it could be that they just used fancier dyes for the commercial box since it was likely a mock-up. I retract my statement about the baseline for the Gama logo on the box in the photo being curved. I think I was fooled by the handle obscuring the top part of the M but not the second A making it seem like the second A was taller than the M.
Well you can see that they were storing other things in there, that's in the picture already. Looks like an old speaker or tape player in the gamma box.
I lost a roll of 35mm B&W film at the OuterBanks in NC in 1980. The pics were all taken on a moonlit night, looking over the shore with surf casters and waves. I always hoped someone found it and developed the photos cuz I think they were really pretty. hope you find these kids, they will be thrilled!
Very interesting story. A while ago I found a Voigtländer Avus with an ancient, undeveloped film. It was a Perutz film, the Perutz company was taken over by Agfa in 1964, so the film had to be very old. I developed it carefully and the results were outstanding! In the pictures you could see young men from the Frankfurt area who were photographed again before going to war. The last pictures of the role show the men at a bus station in Frankfurt with uniform and luggage. This is why I am into vintage cameras ;)
Brings back memories. Great detective work by the way. Reminds me when I worked in a photo lab and a thirty-ish year old woman came in with some older film. Probably had been stored in a glove box because the color was way off. Spent a lot of time adjusting the color as good as we could get it, then she didn't even want them!
How nostalgic. I did this for a customer (roll of Kodacolor II, 120, 6x6, found in an old camera) for a customer of my lab on Wednesday. Slightly fogged (but very well exposed) aerial photography. Good fun find. For the record, the film you developed was only released in 1974 - so it couldn't have been from the 60's!
1974 was the year first C-41 films appeared. Older Kodak color negatives used different process, C-22, which is not compatible with modern C-41 chemistry. Developers for these films have not been commercially available in decades. You can of course develop these as black & white, which is of course the safest option for any film this old.
If your grandfather DID NOT do his own processing, then there is probably nothing unseemly on that roll!, SO go for it, get it developed!!!. Polaroids were the "thing" for "nudity" or "porn" in the "day". Most people would not farm out their "nasties"! LOL.
Today at the give away shop (everything donated and free to take) I found a thirties Balda Micky 2 model in leather case and film inside. Agfa from probably 50s. I'm having the roll developed. Hopefully there's something on it.
Some friends of my parents gave me a few old plastic 35mm cameras, there was a C41 Kodak b&w film in it that I developed at the lab, with some very nice family portraits on it : when I contacted them to send them the prints they replied "we are not interested and won't pay any monney for this" (I never asked for anything) - some people are very strange !...
I just want to commend you for taking the time to have the photos developed and doing the research. You are a very generous person. I hope you will be able to locate the family! 💓❤💕💖🌷⚘😚
That title makes it really hard to find due to the algorithm bringing "Ghos's caught on camera" etc. type of videos. Mabe change it a bit so it can see an influx in views.
@@babayega1717 Im the opposite of clickbait. I title things in a way so only people interested in the channel can see them. SLow growth makes for better subscribers and less trolls.
Magnifique, mon ami. I recognized the film as 120 immediately. Kodak had 620 film years ago, but it only worked in Kodak cameras. It looked like 120, but the reels were different. Everything is digital today. I’ll keep my Canon AE-1 Program. There is one place near me that can process film.
Of course, some people developed their own film. Also, I understand that sometimes places that professionally developed film would occasionally run across nude photos.
That GAMA box is from the early to mid 70's NOT the 80's Note the box from the 70's has an orange frame around the box that the one from the 80's don't Also note that the Orange is a different color almost a florescent orange on the 70's one. -=edit=- And those costumes look like some home-made ones from the lat 60's / early 70's Shag Rug ion the mid 80's? Re-adjustment: Most likely Late 60's early 70's
@@rousrouslan4023 yes, but digital storage media might not prove so resilient. Factory made CD's are pressed, they are readable for a long time, if stored properly. The type you burn yourself stay readable for maybe 5 to 10 years maximum. And they need the proper equipment to be read, which might have been thrown away long ago. Even when found, they might not work anymore. I still have some VHS videotapes, but no way to play them. At least those negatives can be looked at with the naked eye or projected onto something. Or scanned of course. Btw, they came out wrong partly because they hadn't been developed yet. Had they been developed at that time and properly stored, they would have looked much better. Although being colour negatives they would probably still be discoloured somewhat anyway.
@@SatumangoTheGreat There are commercial companies that will digitize VHS tapes by putting them on DVDs. And you can even buy old VHS players (VCRs) online through businesses such as E-bay. The connecting wires, too. You're right that technology advances and old machines become obsolete, but they can still be bought online. And, videos can be digitized and uploaded to video sharing platforms such as RUclips and Vimeo. They can then be viewed on any device (smart phone, computer, tablet, laptop etc.).
Looks like the original owner left the camera behind on the train, the next person picks it up, presses the shutter toward the door before going home, placing the camera at the bottom of bottom drawer and never looking at again. The original photographer is probably still leaving cameras on the Paris Metro to this day.
Is it possible that Gama used a similar box for a number of years? I know the Tide detergent box looked the same for a long time. It just looks to me like the photos you have are from before 1986. My wife's father worked for the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, and they lived in Pakistan and South Africa for a number of year. The pictures you have really remind me of the shots her father took of them, growing up. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of U.S. business people working in foreign offices around the world did a fair amount of travel back and forth to the U.S., and they would often visit other parts of the world on vacations (it was often a perquisite for that type of employment). So, it's possible that the family whose pictures you have wasn't living in France, and was just there on a visit.
The photos on the film you found are charming and I hope you find the grown-up subjects. In Montreal in the mid-70s my stepfather had the same Lubitel 2 camera model in storage and he gave it to me. A few years later, I found in his mother's sewing box a roll of 120 film like yours, on which somebody had written "1969". I found it in 1983. My local lab had to send it to a pro lab in Montreal, who had to send it to a lab in Toronto, who had to send it to New York City, all because the film was for the defunct C-22 processing chemicals rather than the C-41 that prevailed in the 80s. To be frank, I no longer remember who or what was on that film. I ended up spending 24 years as a photo-printing technician, in Canada and then in Los Angeles, until digital photography destroyed my industry. Thank you for the memories of fun times.
@ghgg Who says film ever was away? Cameras for film were well made, whereas digital camera bodies have a limited life span and don't retain their value. Those who want more pixels find its clogging up their computer. I put film into a 140 year old camera with sweet results.
Pictures look to be more from the early 70s. That box of gama in the picture is older than the one in the commercial by over 10 years. The font of the box in the commercial is uniform while the font in the picture goes from large on the outside to smaller in the middle of the word "Gama", which places the date in the first half of the 70s.
Your camera is the same as our 1950 FOKAFLEX. It used 120 (61mm) roll film. KodaColor II color film of this format has been on sale since 1975. The "mystery" is thus solved before it was created. :)
The film was shot on november 2nd 1986 .The place was the Ile De France paris , the family name Louis and they now live in poitiers . Elemantary ..Signed Sherlock Holmes .
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I wanted to know it the owner and the Film are reunited again.
Me too
c'est un peu insultant d'entendre "very old" et 1986 dans la même video. Clairement, les photos ressemblent aux années 80 en revanche c'est l'appareil photo qui me semble hors contexte
@@xtof1er Désolé que vous vous sentiez comme ça ! Cependant, dans le contexte, un film non développé est considéré comme ancien lorsqu'il a déjà dépassé la date de péremption qui est généralement de 2 ans après sa fabrication.
(Sorry you feel this way! However, in the context, an undeveloped film is considered old when it has already passed the expiration date which is usually 2 years after its manufacture.)
@@RonLaws ok, je comprends votre point de vue.
Merci d'avoir répondu, j'avoue que je n'en attendais pas autant.
Option 6 : Images from the future.
Or images of the dinosaurs shot by a time traveler hipster
images from Back to the future (1985)
lol
Mathieu stumbles into La Jetée par Chris Marker...
Mathies, try to restore the fotos as if they were taked today, that w´be amaizing.
"They have all the tools to develop film.." ..... technician opens film with screwdriver...
David Schmidt Aha! Good one. You picked up on that, eh? Never underestimate....that screwdriver looked pretty darn high-tech. IT’S probably from 1986.
LOL, I took photography classes in high school and was wondering what specialty equipment I would need. Then the teacher reaches into his pocket and produces the most important (he says!) tool needed: a 99 cent bottle opener.
I use a bottle opener to open 35mm film canisters and a pair of little kiddie scissors to cut the leader. They rounded on the end so I won't hurt myself doing things by feel.
It was medium format film. Tech was just breaking the paper seal so he could unroll the film.
I used to break the seal with my fingers. The interesting part was the other end of the film, which is attached to the backing paper, and you had to tear off in the dark. Very often you'd see a spark caused by static electricity, but it never caused any fogging on the film.
Wonderful video and great detective work. I am amazed that the subway door handles haven't changed in four decades. That means they must be still using the same subway train carriages.
I think it's awesome that you trying find who the pictures belong to. God bless
That Kodacolor II Film was introduced 1972. If it is an ISO 80 it is from 1972-1975. If it is an ISO 100 it is from 1972 - 1986 (unsure).
It was the first Kodak color negative film to use the C-41 process. It is marked on the film label you show at the beginning. I think that is the reason that the lab machine was able to process it.
Belle trouvaille Mathieu … belle enquête Inspecteur Stern !
This is very interesting! It is as if you're a "Detective of Photography!" I'd love to see even more videos like these.
That could be a TV series.
A time machine. Good detective work.
0:56 From Zardoz, with Love.
Yeah! It was a weird science fiction movie of the seventies, I remember it.
@@MrRobbyvent I'll bet Sean Connery has been trying to forget it. 😃
Amazing reportage
I had the Lubitel when i was kid.
Regards
Magnificent young man 😄 I had a camera like that 😄 New sub from UK. Well done 😚😎
How exciting to find that. And to start a search for those people. PLEASE let us know if you find them!
Awesome detective work!
But the boy is a Native Indian from the American Wild West, this is all so confusing !!
Lmao! This really made me laugh!
Great work my friend, very interesting 😉😉
wow, you are like sherlock holmes solving a mystery. Have you managed to track the people in the photographs?
DOOOD I BEEN TO THAT PLACE TOO! like i'm from england so i been on the metro during a weekend trip but i remember this station >.....< cos it's like a mile up from the tower.
Brilliant!
Well done finding out where they were taken hope you find the owners.
I'm thinking at 3:41 the picture from inside the metro car might have been taken by accident because of the angle. The woman looks to be from an advertisement on the wall of the station. Paris must have a deal with the subway car manufacturers. I have only seen latches on the doors like that in Paris.
That 5th option....Who else was thinking that just before it was mentioned ???
propbibly could have eeked out alitle more information by not doing the bleach step. the bleach step removes the silver basically the black and white image used to make the color image in the film. but since the dyes in color film reely just go away over time there isn't any color for the black and white to transfer its image to better to just keep it and get all the info possible. i don't know if its possible with developing mechienes like that tho.
Belle enquête, bravo ! Comme les personnes photographiées sembent être des Parisiens, il faudrait peut être refaire la vidéo en français ?
need to do a search on the person in Google and Yandex search in social networks, you can find these people in the photos in the mean time
Nice job!
Very COOL MAN!😎❤️
Excellent ! J'espère que la famille verra cette vidéo et qu'elle se manifestera. J'ai conscience que c'est très peu probable, mais l'espoir fait vivre !
Nice story! :)
Did you find the owners of the pictures
I wanted to know it the owner and the Film are reunited again.
Watching this video makes me really want to see old photos with Kodak film that I haven't had time to print because the film printing shop where I live has switched to digital printing. the film is more than 10 years old and I still keep it well, hopefully, someday someone can help me print it and I see the result
That was me. Me and my brothers still like to fill up on bread and grated cheese for lunch and dress in weird costumes.
Oh wow the old 110 film
No picture of the Eiffel Tower, must had lived in Paris.
I think they were going to the Eiffel Tower to take pictures but the kids got a hold of the camera and managed to wind up the rest of the roll of film or maybe the camera got stolen. That's why there's only 5 exposures on it and the train station, which happens to be the one closest to the Eiffel Tower, is the last (2:35).
Lol thanks for the laugh . Sounds like jaques cousteu
The crooked photo from inside the train might have been shot by accident at the moment the camera was stolen.
@@norbertfleck812 I agree. It doesn't look like something people would waste valuable space for photos for at least the next some 20 years until the rise of digital cameras. It would not surprise me with the point of view fairly low, that it was the work of one of the kids from photos before who wasted a shot on the doors.
@@norbertfleck812 Why would someone steal a camera and then doing nothing with it so it ends up at a flea market with still that exposed film inside?
The thief saw it was 120 film and not 135 so useless for him/her?
I bought a camera online, found a film inside. Developed it, found pictures of people smoking, in their bamboo chairs, with vintage cars in the background, and a vintage TV. Emailed the seller, her mom was in those pictures, she barely had any pictures of her, so she was really happy with those as her mom died not long after. It was from 1964 I believe.
Certainly a time to dance a "fandango", wouldn't you say??
@@boedye :)
Great name from a great game.
Nice one........😎
@@boxenjoyerkona To be fair it was a really old camera at the time already when those pictures were taken (1930 or so, bergheil voightlander fyi) so I wouldnt expect pictures of my mom on there either if she died in 2000 and the camera was from 1976
Imagine, how awkward it could be, if you’re taking some extreme porn photos and forgetting about it, and after 35 years some random guy is bringing these photos back to you
It happens! Had a customer bring in six rolls of original Agfa-gevaert Vista a while back (1995-2004ish?). One roll was all naked pictures of her husband, who had been dead for a decade or so. This became awkward when I went to buy lunch, got to the cashier and the customer (who happened to be behind me in the queue) loudly interrupted the sale to tell the cashier how I had just seen her dead husbands' Penis.
In The Study why the fuck hahahahaha why even bring it up?
So many porn movies start that way. As a flooring installer you would be shocked what we used to find that people would leave behind after knowing for weeks we were coming. You completely empty someone's bedroom that has lived there for years, they forget all kinds of stuff. Home made porn, guns, toys, drugs, you name it we have found it and trust me you really don't want to especially if the customer is standing there. At one point I actually starting telling my customers when scheduling the install, "they will take apart every part of the room, they will open draws and in some cases due to weight even remove them (if you stash things behind the draws, found 10 grand there once), they will take the mattress off the box spring (famous for loaded guns and loaded toys), anything off the floors in the closets (shotguns), etc, etc. I would even mention half jokingly, if you have a secrete door where you hide your 20lbs of weed behind, put the weed in the trunk of your car along with the rest of the stuff you don't want a installer to see. I say half joking because we also found that at least 5 times over the years.
Not near as embarrassing as when your kids find them.
You just remembered me to develop my film with hot shots of my woman
The level of resolution you were able to discern from a 35 year-old roll of 120 Kodacolor II truly boggled my mind. It looked like magic. That software is really something else.
Looked like hyperrealistic oil painting
Because film doesn't have a resolution. If you have the original print, you can transfer infinite resolution. If done properly, that is.
@@RaccoonCityPoliceDept That is wrong and not an accurate of physical reality. All media has a resolution limit. This is all basic non-flat-earth science.
@@RaccoonCityPoliceDept well, i mean, the grains have a certain size to them
The shot of them eating outside has come out wonderfully, I love the colours the film has acquired over the years.
Some people like to shoot expired color film just for this reason.
@Sannesthesia Well, the Lubitel was made by LOMO, so technically LOMO filters were applied? ;)
david It shows your lack of politeness and I assume you lacking empathy and respect too. Tell me, why is he a moron and don’t come with an empty answer? 🙄
Teslamoanials Derived Maybe you will find your answer here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown
I think that picture could be blown up and framed as art.
Kodak film has production run codes along the edges, those can be used to find when film produced.
Ingenious! I would really like to see the family’s reaction when you return the film.
Yes, perhaps you could make a video of this "reunion" moment, Mathieu, if it happens.
I hope they're still alive. I mean, you could be young but dead. Right?
It's amazing what can be recovered. My late mother-in-law had a 16 mm film taken by a family member 50 years earlier. It was too brittle to run through a projector and you could barely see an image if you held it up to the light. But a lab transferred it frame by frame to video tape and we were able to watch it (in black and white) as if it was just taken. I could even recognize her as a teen. Living history.
Cool, find them please.
I will do my best !
@@MathieuStern we want see them here as possible
I think the besr way is spreading the video on France Facebook. Starting in france sales groups... Post the video on official france Tv Facebook channels. Good Look
how will he find them, he's not michael bloomberg to plaster whole france with giant billboards with these images...and perhaps not only france....chances of somebody seeing this video are slim
@jason9022 Really?
Even though it's just a laundry detergent ad, it still sounds fancy when it's in French
Are you from Greece, because I am and it INDEED sounds fancy. Actually, it sounds very... "nasty!
@@AnotherUser1000 lol
That's why lawyers like to throw a few French words in "legal proceeding" because it sounds fancy.
Love the detective work
thanks, it was fun to go in the metro station and look for the clues
@@MathieuStern Excellent work. I have done similar exercises. Once I did identify the people and they sent me some new film as a thank you, which was great. I have identified another location which only took me a few minutes on the internet and I have had two complete mysteries. One film only had one usable colour image on it and it is much worse than the results that you got from this film.I guess if we posted them somewhere the six degrees of separation rule could locate them sooner or later. The camera in question was not a Lubitel but a similar quality TLR.
JM Tubbs Indeed the separation rule is the best way possible to find someone and, perhaps the fastest way possible too. Have a wonderful time and be blessed. ✌️
@@MathieuStern did you find the family?
*We need to get these negatives back to the original family, and if they're up for it, interview them about their family and the story behind these photos!!*
Just don't give the story to that one YT site that click-baits, spends half-an-hour explaining the premise, then re-explains the premise as it applies to other relative explanations, then - in twenty-five seconds - explains the photos.
Kids are now old. How strange.
I have seen so many negatives and old photographs in thrift stores; it’s sad 😞 how these photos end up
@@edixasanchezpacheco3692 i'd be willing to bet, more often than not, the folks in the pictures don't really care. i love this stort of stuff, but let's be real
@@henrikpersson4698 likely since they didn't keep the film.
I can't believe you found out so much information about these. Good detective work!
4:35 Your research included some programming?
That was geek typing
Type on Google
He's programming bots to scan the internet for images.
In Linux command prompt
Lol
The baguettes on the table aren't the proof that it's a French family, it was la salade de carottes râpées!
I don't know what that carrot salad is, I'll have to look it up.
Update: www.davidlebovitz.com/carottes-rapee/
Yep, it could have been italian, if that was pasta they were eating instead of carrot salad :P
LOL you just like to complain don't you. Did it occur to you that the French laundry powder and the French rail station also prove it's France. Oh, and the fact he found the film in France.
My mother makes this kind of salad too, and I'm from Azerbaijan...
Those are carrots ? Lol I thought it was shredded shedder cheese 🤯
You should find out when GAMA "first" made that logo and use a date range from that point.
Thought the same, and tried to find something myself... Heck, I have to say hats off for finding that ad alone...
Guess writing to the company directly to find out from when to when that logo was used ist the best idea 👌🏼
The Gama logo on the box in the photo looks different from the one in the commercial, though. They're very similar but the font in the photo has more of an outline and the bottom baseline of the word "Gama" is curved while it looks straight in the commercial. I don't think it's from that much earlier than the commercial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was late 1970s. I also suspect that the subway photo was taken several years after the rest of the shots.
The add in 86 said 'new' that may be the start point. The pic's may even be into 90's l wonder when film was made?
@@trevorpoole8097 it all looks late 70's/early 80's to me
@@2degucitas Looking at the 1986 Gama commercial again, I do see a drop shadow around the script part of the logo that somewhat matches the drop shadow seen on the box in the photo. The drop shadow seems more pronounced on the box in the photo compared to the one in the commercial but that could be attributable to just how the different boxes were printed (the one in the commercial was probably a mock-up printed with precision compared to mass-produced boxes). I thought the font in the commercial had a full shadow outline but I think the upper left part of the outline are just video artifacts.
The box in the commercial also seems to have more colours than the one in the photo but there could be some sun-bleaching on the photo box or it could be that they just used fancier dyes for the commercial box since it was likely a mock-up.
I retract my statement about the baseline for the Gama logo on the box in the photo being curved. I think I was fooled by the handle obscuring the top part of the M but not the second A making it seem like the second A was taller than the M.
I love how you investigated and found the location of that subway train. Almost like a treasure hunt. Nice video!
Hello Matthew, I hope you are having an amazing day! I have a Nishika N8000 3D camera for you to make episode on it.
You want to send me a message on instagram ? @mathieustern
@@MathieuStern Sure
how did you change your name to that
@@fffmpeg I think his or her account got deleted
Soooo cool!! Love this video
I keep my laundry soap next to the fireplace too! (Said nobody ever).
I wonder if it was a box being used for other things (if so, his time frame would be off more)
Well you can see that they were storing other things in there, that's in the picture already. Looks like an old speaker or tape player in the gamma box.
They were recycling the soap box with extraaa coal 😷🌈
Hey, speak for yourself, buddy!
It's a good a place as any! 😜
Now is the time to call inspector Clouseau ! 🕵️
@Bogfinken - Especially with the baguette, like the old lady hitting him with it.
You will need to 'massage' that officer of the 'liew'... 🤣
I think he did a good job, Commissaire Maigret would be proud
I lost a roll of 35mm B&W film at the OuterBanks in NC in 1980. The pics were all taken on a moonlit night, looking over the shore with surf casters and waves. I always hoped someone found it and developed the photos cuz I think they were really pretty. hope you find these kids, they will be thrilled!
Could be a cool series to look for old film cameras that have film in them and process it like you did here.
J'ai adoré le principe de ta vidéo et j'espère que tu retrouveras ces personnes ! Ça serait une belle aventure de vécue ;)
imagine how awkward it would be if someone from these photos is watching this video and sees themselves in it, hahaha!
Very interesting story. A while ago I found a Voigtländer Avus with an ancient, undeveloped film. It was a Perutz film, the Perutz company was taken over by Agfa in 1964, so the film had to be very old. I developed it carefully and the results were outstanding! In the pictures you could see young men from the Frankfurt area who were photographed again before going to war. The last pictures of the role show the men at a bus station in Frankfurt with uniform and luggage. This is why I am into vintage cameras ;)
Brings back memories. Great detective work by the way. Reminds me when I worked in a photo lab and a thirty-ish year old woman came in with some older film. Probably had been stored in a glove box because the color was way off. Spent a lot of time adjusting the color as good as we could get it, then she didn't even want them!
Thanks for the effort. You get a gold star.
wow! i really really like this kind a video, investigating old photgraph and be like detective 🤣
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Elementary my dear Watson !
@@MathieuStern you found that kid ?
How nostalgic. I did this for a customer (roll of Kodacolor II, 120, 6x6, found in an old camera) for a customer of my lab on Wednesday. Slightly fogged (but very well exposed) aerial photography. Good fun find.
For the record, the film you developed was only released in 1974 - so it couldn't have been from the 60's!
1974 was the year first C-41 films appeared. Older Kodak color negatives used different process, C-22, which is not compatible with modern C-41 chemistry. Developers for these films have not been commercially available in decades. You can of course develop these as black & white, which is of course the safest option for any film this old.
3:07 First clue: they're having lunch, therefore most probably photos weren't taken in the USSR
I have a mystery film in my grandfather's old camera. I will develop it someday, just hoping there's no nudes pictures!
Now I want to know what's in it
If your grandfather DID NOT do his own processing, then there is probably nothing unseemly on that roll!, SO go for it, get it developed!!!. Polaroids were the "thing" for "nudity" or "porn" in the "day". Most people would not farm out their "nasties"! LOL.
@@jamesslick4790 my wife worked at Walgreens, pornography photos went through all the time. Odd yes, but it still happened.
@@ralphlongo1975 LOL, Those were BOLD customers!
Today at the give away shop (everything donated and free to take) I found a thirties Balda Micky 2 model in leather case and film inside. Agfa from probably 50s. I'm having the roll developed. Hopefully there's something on it.
Is there an update?
Some friends of my parents gave me a few old plastic 35mm cameras, there was a C41 Kodak b&w film in it that I developed at the lab, with some very nice family portraits on it : when I contacted them to send them the prints they replied "we are not interested and won't pay any monney for this" (I never asked for anything) - some people are very strange !...
I think "dickheads" is the word you're looking for ...
They thought you found their family porn flicks and wanted black mail $$$.
Haha, you gave me a chortle when you showed that thumbnail of Sean Connery as Zed. I just finished watching Zardoz a day before. Weird, weird movie.
M. Stern, I wish you success in tracking down the children in the photos, who would now be adults--won't they be surprised if they saw them! 😉🇬🇧🇺🇸
I just want to commend you for taking the time to have the photos developed and doing the research. You are a very generous person. I hope you will be able to locate the family! 💓❤💕💖🌷⚘😚
That's so cool! I did a video like this called "Ghosts in the camera". I found a roll from the 1950's.
And excellent it was too! ruclips.net/video/jnOYArQo01k/видео.html
That title makes it really hard to find due to the algorithm bringing "Ghos's caught on camera" etc. type of videos. Mabe change it a bit so it can see an influx in views.
@@babayega1717 Im the opposite of clickbait. I title things in a way so only people interested in the channel can see them. SLow growth makes for better subscribers and less trolls.
Magnifique, mon ami. I recognized the film as 120 immediately. Kodak had 620 film years ago, but it only worked in Kodak cameras. It looked like 120, but the reels were different. Everything is digital today. I’ll keep my Canon AE-1 Program. There is one place near me that can process film.
I would never have thought about option 5!😂🥴
haha,hillarious joke over here,it makes me wonder,who the hell photograph porn with the such camera?i mean,man................................
Of course, some people developed their own film. Also, I understand that sometimes places that professionally developed film would occasionally run across nude photos.
@@lesliefranklin1870 Daily, to this day.
Porn has always been part of mankind's history.
No matter the time, if there was a way to store it and share it, porn would have been made.
@@GoldSrc_ very impressive about the fact,but i think....well if i photograph pornography,then i would use digital camera because its private lol
This was beautiful! I hope the family is found. What a treasure!
Being too old of a film, you developed them at their best. Lets continue finding the family 🤗🌼🍀
Option 6: It's a photo of you buying the camera... 😳
Which in that case: RUN!
Outstanding job with this video. One of my favorites from you. This was not just photography for entertainment it is very meaningful
I miss helping my dad develop photos in his dark room😞
Nice to see some true vintage images. It would be cool if you can make a video of you returning these image to the original family.
If i find them using RUclips i will shoot a second video with them
feelings like watching: Sherlock Holmes
(Low Budget)
GAMA: Helping to reunite people with their decades-old photographs since 2020.
(Hopefully.)
😂😂😂
That GAMA box is from the early to mid 70's NOT the 80's
Note the box from the 70's has an orange frame around the box that the one from the 80's don't
Also note that the Orange is a different color almost a florescent orange on the 70's one.
-=edit=-
And those costumes look like some home-made ones from the lat 60's / early 70's
Shag Rug ion the mid 80's?
Re-adjustment: Most likely Late 60's early 70's
The fact that they are still in perfect condition shows how amazing negatives are next to current tech.
What they came out bad. You can keep digital photos forever without any quality loss
@@rousrouslan4023 yes, but digital storage media might not prove so resilient. Factory made CD's are pressed, they are readable for a long time, if stored properly. The type you burn yourself stay readable for maybe 5 to 10 years maximum. And they need the proper equipment to be read, which might have been thrown away long ago. Even when found, they might not work anymore.
I still have some VHS videotapes, but no way to play them. At least those negatives can be looked at with the naked eye or projected onto something. Or scanned of course.
Btw, they came out wrong partly because they hadn't been developed yet. Had they been developed at that time and properly stored, they would have looked much better. Although being colour negatives they would probably still be discoloured somewhat anyway.
@@SatumangoTheGreat There are commercial companies that will digitize VHS tapes by putting them on DVDs. And you can even buy old VHS players (VCRs) online through businesses such as E-bay. The connecting wires, too. You're right that technology advances and old machines become obsolete, but they can still be bought online. And, videos can be digitized and uploaded to video sharing platforms such as RUclips and Vimeo. They can then be viewed on any device (smart phone, computer, tablet, laptop etc.).
Looks like the original owner left the camera behind on the train, the next person picks it up, presses the shutter toward the door before going home, placing the camera at the bottom of bottom drawer and never looking at again. The original photographer is probably still leaving cameras on the Paris Metro to this day.
Find them, Mathieu Holmes!
Is it possible that Gama used a similar box for a number of years? I know the Tide detergent box looked the same for a long time. It just looks to me like the photos you have are from before 1986.
My wife's father worked for the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, and they lived in Pakistan and South Africa for a number of year. The pictures you have really remind me of the shots her father took of them, growing up. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of U.S. business people working in foreign offices around the world did a fair amount of travel back and forth to the U.S., and they would often visit other parts of the world on vacations (it was often a perquisite for that type of employment). So, it's possible that the family whose pictures you have wasn't living in France, and was just there on a visit.
beautiful work ! AND the choice of Telemann's "Tafelmusik" ( rec. by Pieter-Jan Belder, 2013 )
The photos on the film you found are charming and I hope you find the grown-up subjects.
In Montreal in the mid-70s my stepfather had the same Lubitel 2 camera model in storage and he gave it to me. A few years later, I found in his mother's sewing box a roll of 120 film like yours, on which somebody had written "1969". I found it in 1983. My local lab had to send it to a pro lab in Montreal, who had to send it to a lab in Toronto, who had to send it to New York City, all because the film was for the defunct C-22 processing chemicals rather than the C-41 that prevailed in the 80s.
To be frank, I no longer remember who or what was on that film. I ended up spending 24 years as a photo-printing technician, in Canada and then in Los Angeles, until digital photography destroyed my industry.
Thank you for the memories of fun times.
Oron. Guess what? Film is back!! Enjoy!!
@ghgg Who says film ever was away? Cameras for film were well made, whereas digital camera bodies have a limited life span and don't retain their value. Those who want more pixels find its clogging up their computer. I put film into a 140 year old camera with sweet results.
Rat, I thought it would have a pic of who shot J.F. Kenndy, Bigfoot, area 51 secrets, the Abominable Snowman, etc...
I was searching for the comment of that family. Not found 😔
Pictures look to be more from the early 70s. That box of gama in the picture is older than the one in the commercial by over 10 years. The font of the box in the commercial is uniform while the font in the picture goes from large on the outside to smaller in the middle of the word "Gama", which places the date in the first half of the 70s.
Option 6: photos of him looking at the photos he was looking at...
or... option 7: photos of us watching him looking at the photos, damn this would be a great content for a horror movie 😂
Your camera is the same as our 1950 FOKAFLEX. It used 120 (61mm) roll film. KodaColor II color film of this format has been on sale since 1975. The "mystery" is thus solved before it was created. :)
Everything is fun and game until you get a snuff movie.
...or one that shows your own murder.
The film was shot on november 2nd 1986 .The place was the Ile De France paris , the family name Louis and they now live in poitiers . Elemantary ..Signed Sherlock Holmes .
4:43 omg that women is a goddess.
OOh, how I miss the darkroom and doing everything by hand!
I still do everything by hand but it's got nothing to do with developing photos.....
@@984francis WHAT?!!! Are you being gross?? :(. so sad...
*_I love how EVERYONE, including the guy who made this, thought it was gonna be porn. Lol_*
"They must be really old"
Me: not really, 1980's I reckon...kids playing dress ups...a modern train...
The woman also was relatively modern.