STOP making these VISUAL NOVEL mistakes | Beginner Game Dev Tips
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- I realized I never talked about actual visual novel game development on this channel so I figured I'd make a little video on it lol. This is a very High level overview of some things that happen during viznovel development, and definitely can be further expanded upon in terms of the sections and stuff. If there are video requests on something specific let me know and I'll try to make something on it!
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If you didnt watch the vid, here is the tldw:
Plan
Don't start development too fast
Seek out feedback
Don't harp on projects needing to be perfect
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The part about your friend calling you a dumbass because he easily solved your puzzle is SO RELATABLE. I had huge story where the final act twist was that the protagonist had a split personality and was actually the villain. First person I gave the script to predicted the ending as soon as the villain was introduced.
yep that stuff happens so often it seems😅all I know is going forward, I always go to that friend for a read through of whatever I’m writing because he’ll always call out something that’s lame on it haha😭hopefully that lesson didn’t hurt too much when you showed them lol
The paralysis of perfection.
A quote I learned a long time ago from some artist is that art is never finished, only abandoned.
Agreed!😫🔥
A friend ended up hiring other friends of hers way too early for voice acting, and we didn't even get the demo done, those people were pressuring us to see the results so hard!!!
ahh😵yeah voice acting is one of the last things to lock down for that reason! I learned that the hard way as well😅
Game development no matter the genre will always be hell in the end to develop lmaoo, part of the fun is the difficulty tho
naa fr man😭gamedev is always tough for no reason lolll
Gamedev requires half of your life force and a blood sacrifice to even understand what to do
the first time I didn't ask for feedback *during* production and then had my friends read *after* it's done they were like, wtf are you trying to write man the pacing is all over the place
yep! that sounds like my friends also😭they’ll call out stuff that’s confusing or questionable all the time! it’s always good to get consistent feedback if your friends are available for it. that’s what I’m doing going forward for sure!😂
I fw with the last advice hard.
When I'm working on a small project, I always try to convince myself that it ain't going to be perfect or it ain't going to be popular and all that. It's much better to think that your project is made for your own happiness as well as experience. I agree that working on a project, bad or good, is a step to creating your (eventual) masterpiece. Love the vid so much, man. Subbed!!
exactly this dude!!🔥it’s all about improving with every project! thanks for the sub!🤩
i love when videos make me feel like i can actually do worthwhile ish as long as i keep trying, thank you for this
Of course! Im glad it helped :D
I made a visual novel framework in unity from scratch, even added branching paths to it, all in a day. If I can, anyone can.
The story, (writing)script, and assets are the parts that really need planning. And a LOT of it too.
Seems easy enough, but some people just skip to the "good stuff" and finish nothing.
Even hiring people for jobs like VA and art before they even know what they are making. I made these kind of mistakes once, then learned from it.
But I would have never even known about it if I didn't try.
Dude that's awesome! That's so impressive! But yeah I agree, sometimes the best way to learn is to hop right in, make those mistakes, and learn for next time! Thanks for the comment!! :D
it took me so long to figure out all I needed to stay focused was a plan, ace advice right thare!
Planning is underated but soooo necessary🤧🔥thanks for watching!
Thanks; this is such useful advice on the creative process. I definitely will be working on planning more and getting more feedback. I really like your style and your humor. I’m definitely going to release my comic this year.
That's good to hear😊💙thanks for watching!!
ive been daydreaming about the visual novel i thought of the concept for months ago, but never started because i have no experience in pretty much any part of making a vn. the algorithm randomly shows me this video and im finally deciding to start tonight. thanks man 👍
It can be overwhelming but start small! You'll thank yourself later! Good luck with your visual novel development journey! :)
Well said! Especially with that feedback advice. Best to be caught with your pants down before releasing
Exactly! lack of planning and aiming for perfection was always my misstep when making stuff. thanks for watching😄🤟🏽
Dude you had to have used all your stat boosters before making this video, such good editing man and super funny. Great advice. Do u wear beanies a lot does it make ur head sweat
headsweat is insane 😭😭😭 don't let that slide Chris ‼️
😭😭😭changing the original comment to THIS is insane‼️‼️‼️lmfaoaooa! (YES, mad sweaty🫠)
bruh i like this editing
Thank u bro! Tryna step up my game with it🤣🤝🏽💯
I like your honest and kind vibes. Thanks for this!
You are welcome!!! :)
Even though this is very different, this advice goes hard for comic making
Two of my best friends and I are working on a comic, the idea is gonna be a year old in early September. Funny thing is we've been taking our time, revising the story and where we want to take it, how the characters are gonna be, world building, backgrounds, full on concepts, facial expressions, poses, etc. We have a full on Series Bible that was originally just a couple of docs half haphazardly that stemmed from the funny idea of, "hey what if these two become friends?" (we haven't gone truly in depth but we have a solid foundation now to begin working)
We know our story will have flaws, but that isn't stopping us from trying to make it as perfect as possible and dedicating as much love as we can to it. This week we'll begin drawing out the first issue (we have written down the first few issues already dw) and while that maybe painful to read, this is something that we're very passionate about and we're determined to use this as a part of our portfolios for our dream jobs.
I wish you all the best! :D Passion projects are the best! I did something similar with a couple of my friends too. As long as you're putting your best foot forward then that's all that really matters imo. Thanks for the comment! Im glad this also has some overlap with making comics!
It appears~~~~~~~~~~ that I didn't hear about you until now because I live under a rock! Nice video! I can see this helping quite a lot of people!
And I hear you about perfection paralysis, and about eventually reaching a point where you didn't want that to stop you!
But I think, in a way, it was good for me - personally - to go through that phase of perfection paralysis, because it gave me time to grow as a person, writer, and artist. I was still figuring out a lot of things about myself, figuring out what stories I wanted to tell, finding my art style, and just growing up... but when I was ready, I was suddenly like "I'm sick of not releasing anything! Let's start a project for real!"
But until that point, I think I really wasn't ready. Loads of revising ideas and redrawing characters to find my art style, and so on... when you're ready, I think you'll reach a point where you realize you're ready! :) And at that point, don't worry too much! Create, and put things out there! ^^
Sort of like a chick breaking out of an egg, you'll realize you don't need to be in the egg, anymore. Even if you did need to be in it for a while, to grow, now that you've grown, the only way to go is forward.
Yeah. :)
That's a really good analogy😲yeah I can totally see some people eventually just snapping out of perfection paralysis like yourself! I guess I was comparing that with folks I knew or myself since I've mainly only ever seen people holding out on projects to polish or revise or rework into oblivion😅lol. Thanks for commenting! I will check out some of your projects now!🔥
@@ChrisMason_01 Thanks! And yeah, I know some people like that, too! I keep saying things like "I know you want to have everything figured out before hand, but after you have a general plan, you have to start, otherwise you'll keep trying to perfect it and never write a page!" I certainly understand. :)
I come from a writing experience. And I will say it makes the actual novel part of this thing a lot less intimidating. So I guess some advice I'd give to people if you've never written a full chaptered story from start to finish ((Just meaning a full rough draft, not published even)), start there. Do that until the formula of writing is second nature. Not only can those become visual novels later (If you want a kinetic story to start off) or they can become the basis of an idea later, but it gives you a foundation story understanding. I've already seen so many people just.. use anime as example of stories they wanna write but they kind of forget a lot of those sell you on flashy animations or fan service. Visual novels don't tend to have quite the same freedom as that lol.
Thats such a great tip as well. I agree. Having a basis for the story structure goes a long way. And I’m glad you touched on the medium itself as well. It’s so important to know the medium you’re writing for. thanks for sharing!
Do you have any recommendations of books or videos on how to plan a story? I have trouble actually coming up with a plot. I normally just have a jumble of really cool ideas but don’t know how to flesh them out to an actual story.
Yo thank you for this video its a big motivator for me to keep going
thanks for tuning in! and Goodluck with your project🤟🏽🔥
Currently trying to make better visual novels (and comics) 😭 I’ve made a few on smaller app programs, but now that I wanna try other, better, engines. It can be intimidating at first, but I’m enjoying the process and currently writing long enough for a demo to hopefully start making the art for soon. A game dev document video would be much appreciated too. 🙏 subbing for sure! You have great content.
That's awesome! And your art is really good! I wanna make more gamedev specific content soon, I've just been focusing like crazy on improving my art at the moment! I do have the full game devlog series for my visual novel Bingban's Prison Palace on youtube in this playlist here if you wanna see my full production process: ruclips.net/video/l4yfVtvxAN0/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
Just found your channel, and I gotta say this was a great video! You have a lot of good points that more aspiring developers of any sort should keep in mind.
Thanks for watching!! Glad you liked the video😃💯
Feel like this video was just what i needed! Before I've abandoned so many vn projects bc im afraid of them not being perfect 😭 but honestly I think we should embrace the flaws and keep it pushin 💪🏾😼
Yeahhh that's it! I can't tell you how much I've learned from seeing bad projects through. Good luck with your future projects🙌🏽‼️
Immediate notes from the start of the video: too much chatter at the start and needs timed chapters in the description (start the list at 0:00).
im taking notes rn cuz i wanna make a visual novel
letsss gooo! would love to be a playtester when you get around to it!
This helped me a lot, thank you ^^*
Glad you found value out of this video! :D
This video was fire dude! Are any of your VNs on VNDB? I’d like to look more into your work when I have the chance as a writer in training 😭
Yo thank you! Unfortunately not on VNDB, but I have two on steam, and I have a bunch archived on my channel in a playlist called "My Projects" 🤙🏽‼️
even the big pros of visual novels started with really small novels super short. also if its a longer subject id say gow tih a DEMO
100% agree!!
Taking notes because I'm working on my first VN, last thing I will work on music but I won't even bother with getting a voice cast 😔 that's beyond my poor people budget
That’s awesome! yeah it’s a good thing voice acting is not a requirement to make good games🤣good luck to you!
how do you make 9 visual novels in 3 years? holy.... i am on my first one and im like 1 years in and have barely the intro
Thanks! I make em short n sweet and don't over-perfect them lol. Good luck with your visual novel
@@ChrisMason_01 thanks!
thanks for this vid!!
Ofc! Thanks for watching!!
They should make a visual novel called "Decisions" and watch them become super rich.
Real gameplay right there! lmao
Oh yeah this vid clean AF
Haha, yooo thank you!!
currently working on my first, where do you get the artwork because omg I SUCK!
I recommend fiverr for freelancers, or maybe discord/reddit to see if there are artists that are for hire or want to collab!
The difficulty I've had is in the scripting stages, I've even solodeving a game and the overarching story has been easy pz, but the individual interactions are h a r d
yeah tbh, I’m not super experienced enough in writing a vast amount of solo interactions, but what I try to do is make them character/personality specific that shows off a side of the character that wouldn’t be seen to the player otherwise. this usually would incentivize learning about the characters individually(atleast for me😅) hope this helps!
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I try to create my own visual novel but I don’t know how to do digtal art 🥲
Learning Digital Art can be tough but there are a ton of beginners tutorials on how to do it on youtube! I have a couple tutorials on how to make visual novel sprites specifically if you're trying to make those as well! Id say to start off with a free art peogram like Paint tool sai or firealpaca. Id use procreate if you are using an ipad. Those are pretty beginner friendly.
trying not to be a perfectionist is so hard 🥲 but we got to in order to get anything done, great advice dude ✨
Ofc! Yeah getting out of that mindset helped me become SO much more productive. Thanks for watching!