I just watched it see i was rite we don't no tom he seems to leave people alone so best leave him alone but no what ever his name is ran his mouth and got his ass whooped
Yep, an intelligent listener caught the meta diss there. Tom showed how you can diss someone through song style, and not just the words. The slowness was on purpose. The first diss song was for Mac specifically, the bait. Mac was the target audience, so he went slow to make sure he was understood, and yet Mac still didn’t comprehend he was dissing his parenting and not his daughter. It’s also funny when Mac’s like, “I heard your diss and wasn’t sweating”, it’s like, NO SHIT, he went slow for your dumb old ass on purpose! 🤣🤣🤣 The second diss wasn’t for Mac at all. It was clearly for the audience, so he went hard and didn’t hold back. After all, it’s the audience he has to convince he won, not really Mac. He was so much smarter and played 4D chess while Mac’s playing checkers.
@@Vaillle I also love how Mac made Tom's "old man/hard of hearing" jabs more hilarious by attempting to make a diss about Nova being a 'lette, considering Tom didn't seem to diss ICP. Clown is literally in their name lmfao
@That Guy I mean, to be fair, Mac literally tried to prove something when he went to the RUclips statistics, I'm not saying Tom is innocent, but Mac did try to prove something.
@@michaeldavis5901 only us late 90's early 00's kids who loved WWE caught that bar. That bar was one of the most messed up and best things I've ever heard in a diss in my life. I was conflicted lmao
For what it is, 1. Tom never shot at his daughter, he called him a bad dad. 2. Dave trying to say the his "rap name" is Tom's birth name is legit a diss on himself 🤷♂️
@@reneeg9406 Lethals real name is Dave McCleary, which a majority of people who know someone with “Mc” in front of their they end up being called Mac. I got a friend who’s name is Tyler McLaughlin and he gets called Mac by nearly everyone. So in that case, Mac didn’t pick his either
Mac even deleted his diss, and hasn’t posted for ages. He gets like couple of thousand views in his videos, in other words, he’s washed af. Tom literally ended his career🤣
He even used the mgk diss style in the vid imho as a further bait. It looked good but I think ever since mgk and eminem disses I cant look at that and not think of mgk and how em obliterated him.
As much as ya'll probably want to believe that, while Tom's second track was really good, it didn't even mac make stumble in terms of growth and relativity. Which is why like say Eminem is so feared in the rap world, as he has ended the careers of a few rappers, he even caused the collapse of the nations biggest hip hop magazine when him and 50 went after The Source and Murder, Inc.
Tom was dissing nova more by cheating on her (his song sober, mentions cheating on nova, around the same time Mac and him had this beef, since it was released in 2020, and he says a year ago)
I tried pointing that one out , alot of them missed it cause they don't watch wrestling though to be fair but once that was brought up it hit them different.. shits a bar and a half..
@@YZFMX256 yeah but when he wrestled they always pushed rapid wolverine how I always knew him even from his ecw and wcw days. He was one of my favorites kinda sucked when he did what he did. But that was during the time where wrestlers took actual chair shots to the head along with other crazy bumps.
Mac was already famous. Didn't you see when he said he has 2 million more subscribers and how Mac Lethal's 1 video has more views than all of Tom's put together. @@vampsasukegaming1542
"respect" LMFAO. The line was particularly harsh, but Chris Benoit was a wrestler, kinda more up tom's alley, considering that he was such a huge addict, that he totaled his car running from the cops with a kilo of coke in the trunk. If you actually know anything about Tom or Mac, you'd see why many of Tom's disses were complete misses, and how some of the brags like being worth 12 mil (LOL, he had to post a gofundme for nova like a year before, for 10k in medical bills, not something you have to do if you're sitting on a pile of cash.) were complete lies. Go read the lyrics to his song sober, apparantly he was arrested once for stabbing his ex, and he says he cheated on people he needed "a year ago" (this was released in 2020, so that sounds like he's talking about Nova.) His entire track was a bluff, and ya'll bought it lmao. All of his disses towards mac were basically him projecting the things he went through, and considering his violence towards his ex, i'd say that benoit line applies way more to him.
@@leestephens4535 most were given to him along with a lot of unappreciated help! Karma hopefully catching up to Mac. Its about time for him to grow up a little😂
Mac went off the socials for a while. People were sending him some rather epic message, such as: “Hi Dave 👋🏽 hi Dave 👋🏽 hi Dave 👋🏽”. That message was fairly universal after Tom dropped this approx 24 hours after Mac dropped his. Mac was a battle rapper but after his weak response, I no longer consider that claim to be a flex. #HOG The Army ✌🏽
@@flatearthisnonsense he attacked Nova without justification. Dave was lame and paid the price. Now, he just play raps. Nothing original, from the beats to lyrics written by others. Dave has nothing worth listening to. He self-destructed and now he’s just a poser.
@@Gulicktheemu nobody writes for Mac bro are you delusional ? Tom is the one who gets help with his lyrics and I’m cool with that. Where you getting that shit from?
Nova was a star signed to Def Jam where she released a fair bit of music but in the end they treated her like shit and mistreated her so much that Nova tried and successfully got dropped from the label and swore she would NEVER sign to a label again! When Tom and Nova started dating after being friends for years meeting in Edmonton Canada, Nova helped navigate Tom through all the pitfalls and dirty shit record labels do especially when labels wanted to sign Tom after he blew up with "Dear rappers" so they would go to some major record label meetings with NO intention EVER to sign, but just to find out how much they though Tom was worth, so he could find out what his INDEPENDANT outlook would be, obviously Tom made the right choice and NOW Tom and Nova help each other with their music and have the ultimate freedom even though they both work 16-18 hrs a day but don't regret a thing, also killing it financially!💯🔥🙏🍁
@@phonypeeps7020 ALL TRUTH! I've been following Tom and Nova for a LONG TIME being a Canadian myself! Thank you for the comment I truly appreciate it when people read a long comment I've made and see they might have learned something?! I have a fair bit of knowledge about Tom and Nova! Just ask! #HOG4LIFE🙏😊
"You diss ICP, your girl is a jugglet." But he didn't diss ICP, he called Mac lethal the biggest clown in the collab with ICP, that isn't a diss to ICP because they are literal clowns, with face makeup.
@@dustinhayward1711 it's not ICP that usually g ets dissed, it's their community, called "Juggalos/Juggalettes" which are is one of the most bizzare fanbases i've ever seen. That was where the insult was at.
@@ExarchGaming that still wouldn't make sense the line was "how you do a song with icp and still wind up the biggest clown" it said nothing about the fanbase secondly the "juggalos" also consider themselves to be clowns even if he had called them clowns i highly doubt they would have taken it as an insult
Tom couldn’t be totally pre-prepared because he addressed Lethal’s bars in his own. This was a clean win. They aren’t on the same level. My first time hearing it was very shortly after discovering Tom, if he was better I’d be a Lethal fan now, but I haven’t heard anything else he’s created, while anticipate every MacDonald drop with excitement.
I don't know if calling him Mac is the best idea. Seeing how it's in both of their names, it's confusing. If t6he better rapper wasn't 6 obvious it would be any how.
“You’re the rapper equivalent of Candice Owens .” I would take that as a compliment lol. A gorgeous woman who has a level head and does her research and will speak facts? I’ll take it
ruclips.net/video/9lD29jqH078/видео.html&t "does her research." Lol! No she doesn't. She literally admits in this interview she has no idea why she believes what she believes in. She's playing a base (American conservatives) for likes, clicks, money, and views. Same as Tom McDonald, baby face Canadian wrestler, turned Trump-supporting conservative rapper, lol.
Imagine thinking calling someone a bad parent is insulting your child. That has to be the biggest reach of the century. Mac got absolutely slaughtered.
Absolutely as someone who's followed Dave since his battle rap days his diss to tom was trash the wrestling footage took away from it and fucked what ever flow he had, Dave flow was wack , cadence wack, delivery wack, Tammy macdogfart is a 5 year old play on someone's name straight wack elementary school diss. The first one from Tom for sure was a bait track to see if Dave would even respond. And if I remember tom dropped mac lethal sucks like 3 hours after Dave dropped his video. Tom plays sometimes.
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz yea I was actually pretty confuse of why Dave's diss tracks were not that good. I was expecting more sense he is an actual good battle rapper. But whatever
Yea. Or saying "hey you rapped with literal clowns, but you're a bigger clown" and thinking that's a diss to the clowns. Weird. It seems like alot of it just went over Macs head.
@@jongauchay9948 Chris Benoit if you weren’t aware, was a professional wrestler. On a weekend in 2007 Benoit killed his wife, one of his sons (the other son was with his mom in Canada at the time) and then place bibles by his wife and son before hanging himself.
@@jackgreuey1930 One of the saddest fucking things to ever happen. I loved Chris Benoit as a kid watching WWE. He blew up on a roid rage and killed his family and his reputation and at the least it started a real talk about steroid use if anything came out of this.
He actually has a couple really good songs I was a fan of years back. Long before I was HOG4life. But damn. Why did he diss nova. I haven’t listened to him in years.
yes Tom won, Mac turned off all his online shit for a while after this as he was getting so many people making fun of him. as far as 2 vids to 1 Dave "you missed that Tom did not call him his rap name in his dis btw" started this beef, it was only right that that Tom finished it. the funny thing about all this is Dave was known as a rap battle star, not anymore lol. HOG 4 Life!!!
Most people miss it because no one cares about Mac, but at the end when he says "I can smell it, you sweating, and it's 11:11. I make a wish that when you die you come back resurrected", 11:11 was the name of one of Macs first albums
Its a triple actually cause 1. You make wish at 11:11 2. Mac's album 3. Ellen's record label is named 11 11 linking back to the line "big bad dave got the ellen co-sign" as he was on ellen show
I do. The sad part, is ML used to be a badass battle rapper, like at damn near Eminem levels. Don't know what happened to him, but he's for sure a power now.
Yeah...he is a poser. I hate we lost Miller and kept well....I know it's horrible to say but the truth hurts. P.S.A I am not wishing the has been dead, dude just give it up. Your story on Tom has been all lies. It wasn't about you....then something along the lines of Tom being mad because he, as in Mac, doesn't like him. Try the truth sometime , you would be amazed. #HOG #TomMacdonald #Macwho??
The slow rap of Toms First one was on purpose. First because mac is so old that he has to speak slow an clear for mac and also because mac loves to rap fast. So tom showed everybody you don't have to rap fast to be good.
good knowledge. He also wrote both probably during a commercial and Mac Lethal had to wait 5 days for Tom MacDonald to write his own diss track for Lethal
this just crossed my feed today…yes, 3 years after the fact…i have been wondering if someone put all the songs together…thank you SO much for this! I truly appreciate you taking the time to do this
When Tom said "tap on my shoulder and run" he was talking about how mac lethal dropped his diss then tweeted right after and said he wasn't gonna do a second diss
Funny how he supposedly heard of this "white rapper" that is much smaller than Tom but also never heard of Tom... that must be that common core math I've been hearing about
1, I'm so glad you did this because I've wanted to listen to this back & forth but everyone did single videos and I didn't know where to start - so THANK YOU! 2, I have on the same shirt as you haha. Thanks Nick!
FLAWD!!! Just discovered Nick today so I’m going down the HOG rabbit hole! Glad you’re enjoying this, bruv!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #flawdsquad #hangovergang #letsdothisNick - loving your content
This still gets me to this day! It cracks me up every single time…. Tom baits the hell out of Dave, Dave comes back with a crappy ass response and then Tom just murders him….. And then Tom gets his ultimate wish because anytime anyone watches one of these videos Dave gets resurrected and killed again and again and again🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reason why he went so hard and personal, especially the Chris Benoit line, was the fact Mac went after Nova. I don't think Tom would have went after him so personally if Mac would have left Nova out of it.
Actually I think its an ICP. Jab, They have wrestled since around 89-90. Just another coat tail Mac grabbed onto. He raps fast, but the high school competition and Perks were over after several dick moves on Macs part.
lol, Tom McDonald is your idol? I wanna ask your parents some questions, and find out where they failed so I don’t do the same thing. There’s people out there who have done extraordinary things, and accomplished things that are almost impossible.., and yet your idol is not one of those people, it’s a guy who makes videos and songs on RUclips crying about how everyone is out to get him and how hard it is being him. He hates on SJW and “snowflakes”, and yet every single one of his videos he’s just a crybaby imagining how life is so damn hard for him, a “straight white male”. Come on bro, toughen up a bit. I’m a straight white dude too, it’s really not all that bad. Not enough to create a whole song crying about it. Get a new role model, or someone to look up to, cause this guy ain’t it.
@@kyleerrington8004 I feel like you didn’t listen to the opening bar Tom dropped. Do research first. Dude was deep in addiction and on the brink of homelessness and does everything independent.
@@kyleerrington8004 damn you are just as bad as everyone else and have to hate on someone for considering someone an idol who came from nothing to make an honest living, keep you stupid comments to yourself buddy
I started listening a Tom McDonald after I heard No Good Bastards, became a fan after I heard Fake Woke especially after he said something along lines that “ everyone is talking about defunding the police, but order food and call the cops to see who shows up first” facts. Especially where I’m from.
"They're gunna need a whole family of coffins when you Chris Benoit them to solve all your problems" *Insert Dial-up noise here* *Nick.EXE has crashed*
@That Guy Macs flow was wack and he contradicted himself several times. He would've won, if he had more consistent disses. A lot of Macs OWN fans agree Mac got flamed.
62 years old.....now Im a lover of Rap. Getting old is not so bad, listening to Tom. Very Loud in myTruck, windows down rapping to Tom 😂🤣😂❤️ Do not care what others think of me.
Thanks for the unbiased opinion and great review. reading through some of the comments it seems like there are so many of us, VERY like-minded. Hang over gang gonna take over mane 🤘
Unbiased??? He didn't even know Mac when he was dissing people like Tech N9ne on Scramble jams and admitted he didn't know Mac, please explain how that's not biased???
honestly this is the first time ive heard both diss tracks and i have seen some of Macs videos( which in my opinion is weak with no style or tone) but tom never dissed his daughter. tom is a way better person and better rapper.
Tom never really dissed Mac’s daughter, all he really said was Mac should stay off drugs because he’s broke and has a daughter at home. That ain’t a diss about the daughter he just pointed out he had a drug problem and now has a kid
Yeah.., like honestly I feel like Mac definitely had the potential to go harder then he did... but he just didn’t. I’d say Tom is better regardless... but really expected more from MacLethal.
@@technician0096 that's how I feel too, I know Mac since 2010, never been a fan of him but he definitely had more potential than this playground disstrack and disappointed
He is though. He praised things that Tom did, and bashed Mac for doing the same shit. I’ll give you an example. He bashes Mac for back tracking, but when Tom talks about Mac being in narcotics anonymous, and then says that he’s been sober for eight years, dude says nothing. He also praised Tom for lines that have been said before. Versions of the Chris Benoit, and kept lethal, but lost miller lines have been said before. I agree that Mac could have released a better song, but I’m not going to pretend like both of toms songs were consistently great either.
@@daelenstonemeier490 how is tom mentioning narcotics anonymous and saying he been sober for 9yrs backtracking? Ppl can be in AA and still be sober, that's how some stay on the straight by going to meetings..
@@valykis your cherry picking my points. What about the other things that I said? On top of that Tom lied about how much he’s worth. According to google Tom is only worth $100,000.
@@Choomblaster *Lil Wayne, Kanye West and **Logic.You** probably just now getting into Rap because you are a natural born **conservative.So** I'm guessing you listen to country music and Heavy Metal Music.*
It all depends on the people you try to speak to in your music lil Wayne trash,Kanye lost his mind, heavy metal and country in my mix also, sounds better when muds kicked up on the side of the truck, music choice for me depends on my situation, we are the ones that like everything and when and if the US stands for their rights I will stand with anyone willing to stand for themselves...your favorite music idle is not going to protect you..ARM UP LETS GO!
Okay, the line "you got a pet bird? You never thought you'd be dead first" miners used to bring birds with them in the mines, if there was gases in the mine that were harmful, the bird would die first because there lungs are smaller, so the miners would know to run when the bird dies. So tom saying "you never thought you'd be dead first" is because I he killed mac faster than a bird could die in a mine. It's so clever and I haven't seen anyone mention this bar! Tom is the GOAT!
@@seabass819, I used to do battle rap around the time Mac did (never met him; I have 5 years of age on him, too). And, if I were in the same situation, no phucking way would I use that cop-out; that's beyond ludicrous. Like Tom said, "Dave, counterculture is who beats you up."
@@johndeeregreen4592 That's because he won a high school rap battle contest sponsored by ICP. I'm also older and know personally about a lot of the unappreciated help he received and still treated those who gave up time and money like garbage. Mac can rap fast, but is immature and needs to finally grow up and come up with his own ideas.
Tom wrote the SICKESTTTT diss I’ve ever heard. “Hi Dave, hi Dave, hi Dave... I’m not even try-ang” ☺️ my personal favorite part is “nobody cares bout your music no marrr” 🤣 he legit murdered ML
@@PC4ever when it comes to diss tracks, literally anyone...except nick cannon and az izz, they have awful diss tracks. Please don't act smart when you think Tom Macbloodydonald has the best diss ever 🤔🤣🤨
I wouldn't call his diss the sickest, but Tom is pretty dang good compared to what is out there now. Old school wise and even still relevant today, 2Pac's diss to Biggy about his wife Fay, himself, and his crew called Hit "Em Up, is still epic as all hell. Lets not forget Ice Cubes diss to NWA, especially Eazy-E, called No Vaseline. The 90's are still the best era of this genre of music. Rappers and hip hop artists still can't hold a candle to the 90's. It was a special time and moment, good and really bad, where artists actually had something worth saying. That was because of what was happening in the 80's and early 90's. There are some decent artists out there today, but most artists today make up stories, try joining gangs just to get street cred and try to seem more legit than their fake ass lives that they live, or to make their fans think that they are gangsta's, instead, they are just wanksta's wanting to be gangsta.
Great reaction. I watched the whole thing, but was really waiting to see your reaction to the Chris Benoit line, and you didn't disappoint. That line was really one of the hardest bars in any dis.
I made the mistake of watching the second Mac Leathal Diss first. I was just exploring Tom’s music and it came up on auto play. And now I’m immersing myself into the world of diss tracks xD
I’m pretty sure Nick missed the point of that line. “If you did a drive by, I’d wave” Mac’s shots at Tom all missed the critical mark. That’s how I interpret that anyway 🤷♂️
Tom didn't diss Macs kids. He said you have a daughter at home. That's just common knowledge he didn't say anything negative about the daughter. That's stupid.
Mac sounds like a 10 year old arguing on an elementary school playground. Tom has more creativity in his little finger than Mac has had in his lifetime.
no joke. You nailed it. Mac sounds like a little boy dissing to pass time, Tom put out lyrics that people kill themselves over, especially when you see Macs was a bunch of ad-hominem and Tom's was personal, accurate AF, and cut like a sword. Way better punchlines too, no joke. That diss goes so hard it makes me uncomfortable to listen to. That's hard.
Tom can't help it, he's just talented as shit. Even if Nova helps him on songs, who cares, he's smart enough to use her talent...they make a good team. edit: I've heard this song a bunch and just now heard the Chris Benoit thing! whoa
@@NeckCS2 what the hell are you talking about? You keep trolling but you make absolutely no sense. Tom does his own lyrics and music Nova edits and helps film the videos. Get off here troll
@@NeckCS2 I listen to Tom on pandora you can look up which songs he writes solo. It is all his best work like No Response and This House. Nova helps with hooks. Nova is an insanely talented director. But, her solo music is no where near Tom’s quality. If you can listen to her music and pretend she writes Toms stuff you’re crazy. Straight White Male isn’t controversial?🙄 PS - The majority of Rappers have entire teams of writers or load up their songs with guest stars. Tom having only one person is impressive AF and he makes his own beats. Fuck he even builds most of his music sets.
Yea, that "tap on my shoulder and run" line was an analogy referring to the beef itself. Mac was talking about how Tom was a wrestler, but he's a martial artist. So, Tom responded to that basically saying "dude, you're a martial artist and I'm a wrestler, but you'll tap on my shoulder (the initial passive aggressive tweet) then run (denying that the tweet was about Tom as soon as he was confronted). Very clever bar and one of the many that vaporized Mac Lethal.
Whoever said Mac lethal won just doesn't understand rap. Lyrically it was better, had better cadences, his flow was far smoother, beats were way better than a old school beat he put together in 5 minutes. Plus he makes you picture shit in your head. Maclethal shows pics
![The Complete Story of Destiny! From origins to Shadowkeep [Timeline and Lore explained]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9mbDXvDNqTU/mqdefault.jpg)
The funniest part is that it took mac over a week to respond but tom dropped his response after only a day!
I just watched it see i was rite we don't no tom he seems to leave people alone so best leave him alone but no what ever his name is ran his mouth and got his ass whooped
@@willnewby3656 Can you spell?
@@p8ntball6 he's a Newby, leaf him alone.
@@p8ntball6 he can probably spell "asshole" by copy and pasting your name.
🤣🤣🤣
He's being deliberately slow, as he says at the start, he's implying that Mac wouldn't be able to keep up otherwise.
yessir!! you got it exactly right
Yep, an intelligent listener caught the meta diss there.
Tom showed how you can diss someone through song style, and not just the words. The slowness was on purpose.
The first diss song was for Mac specifically, the bait. Mac was the target audience, so he went slow to make sure he was understood, and yet Mac still didn’t comprehend he was dissing his parenting and not his daughter. It’s also funny when Mac’s like, “I heard your diss and wasn’t sweating”, it’s like, NO SHIT, he went slow for your dumb old ass on purpose! 🤣🤣🤣
The second diss wasn’t for Mac at all. It was clearly for the audience, so he went hard and didn’t hold back. After all, it’s the audience he has to convince he won, not really Mac. He was so much smarter and played 4D chess while Mac’s playing checkers.
@@Vaillle I also love how Mac made Tom's "old man/hard of hearing" jabs more hilarious by attempting to make a diss about Nova being a 'lette, considering Tom didn't seem to diss ICP. Clown is literally in their name lmfao
Spot on bro, this went over too many heads.
Tom was correct in that assumption
Weird how after this beef Tom been putting out straight BANGERS while mac lethal ain't producing. We all can see who won just by the numbers.
Facts
Like Em vs Naz and MGK
Nah he's shit my nigga
@@username-pq4nb how?
@That Guy I mean, to be fair, Mac literally tried to prove something when he went to the RUclips statistics, I'm not saying Tom is innocent, but Mac did try to prove something.
3 years later - Tom MacDonald has 2 million subscribers more than Mac Lethal.
Now Tom has 50m+++
and just look at their total views.... Mac who?
Tom didn't diss the daughter. Lethal is just a little bit on the slow side.
Your So correct he never did
Mac rode the short bus
I don't think that was accidental. IMO, Dave was deliberately using that as a pathetic excuse to go after Nova.
Yup
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He did....the Chris Benoit line. You got it. 99% of reactors never got that line.
Seriously, most messed up line ever 😂😂 slayed him with it
Flawdzilla was the only other person I've seen that caught it. His reaction was also hilarious.
@@michaeldavis5901 only us late 90's early 00's kids who loved WWE caught that bar. That bar was one of the most messed up and best things I've ever heard in a diss in my life. I was conflicted lmao
For what it is,
1. Tom never shot at his daughter, he called him a bad dad.
2. Dave trying to say the his "rap name" is Tom's birth name is legit a diss on himself 🤷♂️
How so? Mac just basically said “you have to say my name every time you say your own name”
@@Scarecrow_LuuNa yeah I don't think it's a diss it's more of a I need money thing 😂😂😂
@@Scarecrow_LuuNa yeah... toms name is the og though. Every time lethal has to say his rap name he has to say Tom's name. Tom's real name. Durp.
Tom didn't pick his own name🤷♀️
@@reneeg9406 Lethals real name is Dave McCleary, which a majority of people who know someone with “Mc” in front of their they end up being called Mac. I got a friend who’s name is Tyler McLaughlin and he gets called Mac by nearly everyone.
So in that case, Mac didn’t pick his either
Here I am years later watching this reaction again cuz it's just so amazing how Tom absolutely picked this guy apart
I love how Tom went slow in the first track to bait mac in. The 2nd track was the headshot and mac was done.
Same! I seem to stroll back to this a couple times a year, lol! Its just fun to watch😂!
Mac even deleted his diss, and hasn’t posted for ages. He gets like couple of thousand views in his videos, in other words, he’s washed af. Tom literally ended his career🤣
I'm a new Tom McDonald fan so it's interesting learning about this honestly Mac Lethal sucks
@@KaruHartza Mac died.....he can't post anything, He isn't a Biden
The "tired" feeling and slow tempo was simply a genius play by Tom to go slow so that Mac would get it.
Indeed, though I believe it being slow and tired was the whole idea and he was making a point of how old, tired and slow Mac is.
Sadly enough, even with the slow tempo, Mac still didn’t understand. 😂
He even used the mgk diss style in the vid imho as a further bait.
It looked good but I think ever since mgk and eminem disses I cant look at that and not think of mgk and how em obliterated him.
LOL!@@BizarreVidarr
When Mac dissed Nova, he signed his own death warrant.
exactly, he fucked it up right there...
Amen!
#HOG4LIFE
Lol
As much as ya'll probably want to believe that, while Tom's second track was really good, it didn't even mac make stumble in terms of growth and relativity. Which is why like say Eminem is so feared in the rap world, as he has ended the careers of a few rappers, he even caused the collapse of the nations biggest hip hop magazine when him and 50 went after The Source and Murder, Inc.
Tom was dissing nova more by cheating on her (his song sober, mentions cheating on nova, around the same time Mac and him had this beef, since it was released in 2020, and he says a year ago)
You wouldn't believe how many reactors missed the Benoit bar.
Easily the most fucked up bar ever dropped and 3/4 of the ppl miss ii bc they don’t know who the Canadian crippler was.
I tried pointing that one out , alot of them missed it cause they don't watch wrestling though to be fair but once that was brought up it hit them different.. shits a bar and a half..
@@YZFMX256 rabid wolverine my guy, crippler cross face and diving headbutt were his finishing/signature moves
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz we’ve always referred to Benoit as the Canadian crippler🤷🏼♂️
@@YZFMX256 yeah but when he wrestled they always pushed rapid wolverine how I always knew him even from his ecw and wcw days. He was one of my favorites kinda sucked when he did what he did. But that was during the time where wrestlers took actual chair shots to the head along with other crazy bumps.
Didn't even know who Mac Lethal was until Tom!😂
Hell yeah, and oh watch out now Tom, you might get this clown some kind of popularity, lmmfao. Yeah I'd never heard of him until Tom either.
Same
Same
yeah mac got famous off it
Mac was already famous. Didn't you see when he said he has 2 million more subscribers and how Mac Lethal's 1 video has more views than all of Tom's put together. @@vampsasukegaming1542
So happy to see someone FINALLY give the Chris Benoit line the respect/reaction it deserves.
Agreed!
Yeah I subbed for it, If you get a chance check out RealDVZA channel, his reaction to the Benoit line's good too, I was pissin' myself laughin' at it
The Matthews Family caught it too.
@@KILLSMASH I saw he caught it but Nick gave it the reaction it deserves.
"respect" LMFAO.
The line was particularly harsh, but Chris Benoit was a wrestler, kinda more up tom's alley, considering that he was such a huge addict, that he totaled his car running from the cops with a kilo of coke in the trunk.
If you actually know anything about Tom or Mac, you'd see why many of Tom's disses were complete misses, and how some of the brags like being worth 12 mil (LOL, he had to post a gofundme for nova like a year before, for 10k in medical bills, not something you have to do if you're sitting on a pile of cash.) were complete lies. Go read the lyrics to his song sober, apparantly he was arrested once for stabbing his ex, and he says he cheated on people he needed "a year ago" (this was released in 2020, so that sounds like he's talking about Nova.)
His entire track was a bluff, and ya'll bought it lmao. All of his disses towards mac were basically him projecting the things he went through, and considering his violence towards his ex, i'd say that benoit line applies way more to him.
Mac lost over 400k subs after his diss
😂😂 I'm surprised he had that many to begin with! He's horrible! #HOG4LIFE ❤🤟🤘
@@leestephens4535 most were given to him along with a lot of unappreciated help! Karma hopefully catching up to Mac. Its about time for him to grow up a little😂
@@TheMystery303 agreed! 💯
One of them was me
Man I thought Tom McDonald won that one.... No he literally buried that man alive
Mac went off the socials for a while. People were sending him some rather epic message, such as: “Hi Dave 👋🏽 hi Dave 👋🏽 hi Dave 👋🏽”. That message was fairly universal after Tom dropped this approx 24 hours after Mac dropped his.
Mac was a battle rapper but after his weak response, I no longer consider that claim to be a flex.
#HOG The Army ✌🏽
His weak response ? His disses were dirty. Hog is another word for dick that’s why you got it tatted underneath your lip.
And Mac was off social media cuz he was going through marital problems homie. Had nothing to do with Tom.
@@flatearthisnonsense nice story but nobody is buying that.
Dave’s career went nowhere since that clout chase.
@@flatearthisnonsense he attacked Nova without justification.
Dave was lame and paid the price. Now, he just play raps. Nothing original, from the beats to lyrics written by others. Dave has nothing worth listening to. He self-destructed and now he’s just a poser.
@@Gulicktheemu nobody writes for Mac bro are you delusional ? Tom is the one who gets help with his lyrics and I’m cool with that. Where you getting that shit from?
The time frame for the making of said videos. Leathal took 5 days to react. Tom and Nova took 24 hours! Yes, hours! The two of them are beasts!
Also proves the ghost writer bar was legit
Toms second response was like watching a cat play with its food before it kills it.
Yes!! 🤣🤣
The second dis, he brought Mac to life then just killed him again and again and agaaain and agaaaaaaaain
@Kyu T Lee then putting the food in mac's toomstone with a trash can on top of it!
😂👍
Nah, the first 30 seconds of the song was him killing his food ... the rest was Tom playing with it *after* it was dead 🤣🤣
Nova was a star signed to Def Jam where she released a fair bit of music but in the end they treated her like shit and mistreated her so much that Nova tried and successfully got dropped from the label and swore she would NEVER sign to a label again! When Tom and Nova started dating after being friends for years meeting in Edmonton Canada, Nova helped navigate Tom through all the pitfalls and dirty shit record labels do especially when labels wanted to sign Tom after he blew up with "Dear rappers" so they would go to some major record label meetings with NO intention EVER to sign, but just to find out how much they though Tom was worth, so he could find out what his INDEPENDANT outlook would be, obviously Tom made the right choice and NOW Tom and Nova help each other with their music and have the ultimate freedom even though they both work 16-18 hrs a day but don't regret a thing, also killing it financially!💯🔥🙏🍁
Thanks for this comment
Thank you
It's nice when a long comment turns out to be worth the read. Cool beans.
@@phonypeeps7020 ALL TRUTH! I've been following Tom and Nova for a LONG TIME being a Canadian myself! Thank you for the comment I truly appreciate it when people read a long comment I've made and see they might have learned something?! I have a fair bit of knowledge about Tom and Nova! Just ask! #HOG4LIFE🙏😊
Not to mention Nova directs his videos and they make their own props. It's one of the biggest things I respect about them.
"You diss ICP, your girl is a jugglet." But he didn't diss ICP, he called Mac lethal the biggest clown in the collab with ICP, that isn't a diss to ICP because they are literal clowns, with face makeup.
Exactly icp literally stands for insane clown posse im pretty sure they know and are ok with being called clowns
@@dustinhayward1711 it's not ICP that usually g ets dissed, it's their community, called "Juggalos/Juggalettes" which are is one of the most bizzare fanbases i've ever seen. That was where the insult was at.
@@ExarchGaming that still wouldn't make sense the line was "how you do a song with icp and still wind up the biggest clown" it said nothing about the fanbase secondly the "juggalos" also consider themselves to be clowns even if he had called them clowns i highly doubt they would have taken it as an insult
Exactly, mac misunderstood
Us juggalos, know what he meant.
Tom couldn’t be totally pre-prepared because he addressed Lethal’s bars in his own. This was a clean win. They aren’t on the same level. My first time hearing it was very shortly after discovering Tom, if he was better I’d be a Lethal fan now, but I haven’t heard anything else he’s created, while anticipate every MacDonald drop with excitement.
This wasn’t a battle, it was a slaughter. Mac RIP....
Strongly agreed! xD
I don't know if calling him Mac is the best idea. Seeing how it's in both of their names, it's confusing. If t6he better rapper wasn't 6 obvious it would be any how.
He slaughtered Dave buried him and dug him back up just to kill him again 🤣
#HOG4LIFE #HOGFAM 🤘
Mac Lethal straight up bodied his ass
I have never heard of Mac Lethal, now I know why. He sucks.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
🙂He does though lmao 🤣🤣
Mac lethal? More like mac and cheese.
He's better than you and tom
@@tammymorgan3503I diagnos you with salty
Yeah they’re both cringe
Tom murdered him then violated his corpse in front of his wife and kids. That was just a slaughter.
then wiped the floor up with what was left
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Your reaction to the Benoit line was priceless. I think it's the best of all the reactors I've seen. My jaw dropped when I heard it the first time.
“You’re the rapper equivalent of Candice Owens .” I would take that as a compliment lol. A gorgeous woman who has a level head and does her research and will speak facts? I’ll take it
that was exactly my thought when I heard that line lol
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"does her research." Lol! No she doesn't. She literally admits in this interview she has no idea why she believes what she believes in. She's playing a base (American conservatives) for likes, clicks, money, and views. Same as Tom McDonald, baby face Canadian wrestler, turned Trump-supporting conservative rapper, lol.
❤️ exactly
so tru !!!
@@bryanf1091 We have a cup for those precious tears of yours.
I’m just here for the Chris Benoit reaction lmao 😂
It was worth it!
FACTS
Didn't disappoint
Man yup
My man watched it three times then left
Imagine thinking calling someone a bad parent is insulting your child. That has to be the biggest reach of the century. Mac got absolutely slaughtered.
Absolutely as someone who's followed Dave since his battle rap days his diss to tom was trash the wrestling footage took away from it and fucked what ever flow he had, Dave flow was wack , cadence wack, delivery wack, Tammy macdogfart is a 5 year old play on someone's name straight wack elementary school diss. The first one from Tom for sure was a bait track to see if Dave would even respond. And if I remember tom dropped mac lethal sucks like 3 hours after Dave dropped his video. Tom plays sometimes.
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz yea I was actually pretty confuse of why Dave's diss tracks were not that good. I was expecting more sense he is an actual good battle rapper. But whatever
@@themadclown4077 for real, dude he use to straight dismantle rappers and now he's a cringy clickbate rapper for the most part
@@themadclown4077 He knew he had no chance in this one, but he couldn't resist and had to respond, the rest is history.
Yea. Or saying "hey you rapped with literal clowns, but you're a bigger clown" and thinking that's a diss to the clowns. Weird. It seems like alot of it just went over Macs head.
Tom did the rap slow because Mac Lethal is old and he didn't want him to miss anything
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He did say he was going to slow down in his lyrics. 😅
That Chris Benoit line is the coldest thing I'd ever heard and this reaction was perfect!
Who is Chris Benoit? I’ve heard this comment a bit but who is it?
@@jongauchay9948 Chris Benoit if you weren’t aware, was a professional wrestler. On a weekend in 2007 Benoit killed his wife, one of his sons (the other son was with his mom in Canada at the time) and then place bibles by his wife and son before hanging himself.
@@jackgreuey1930 it was a dark fucking time man. I remember when it was all over the news
After which the WWE scrubbed him from it's history
@@jackgreuey1930 One of the saddest fucking things to ever happen. I loved Chris Benoit as a kid watching WWE. He blew up on a roid rage and killed his family and his reputation and at the least it started a real talk about steroid use if anything came out of this.
Mac Lethal? I never heard of him! It sounds like his rap is from the "Fresh Prince of Belle Air"
OMG YES IT DOESSS
Lmao it does
He actually has a couple really good songs I was a fan of years back. Long before I was HOG4life. But damn. Why did he diss nova. I haven’t listened to him in years.
“Raise the dead”
Damn. Dissing Tom? Hell no
😂 🤣 EXACTLY!! I was waiting for Will Smith to pop his head in the door with his ball cap 🧢 on sideways 😆
Rap equivalent of Candace Owens.....is that suppose to be a insult?
yo yeah candace owens is a beast
a libtard would probably think so
I thought the exact same thing.
Yeah no, that’s not a diss, Candace Owens is a badass and future president of the United States!
I considered it a compliment
I appreciate the Mac/Tom beef, because that's how I found out about Tom MacDonald in the first place.
Same, I subscribed to Mac Lethal, then stumbled into the rap battle and soon became a big Tom Macdonald fan.
yes Tom won, Mac turned off all his online shit for a while after this as he was getting so many people making fun of him. as far as 2 vids to 1 Dave "you missed that Tom did not call him his rap name in his dis btw" started this beef, it was only right that that Tom finished it. the funny thing about all this is Dave was known as a rap battle star, not anymore lol. HOG 4 Life!!!
Hog Fam!
"Dicks 4 Life" you do you brah, lol.
Most people miss it because no one cares about Mac, but at the end when he says "I can smell it, you sweating, and it's 11:11. I make a wish that when you die you come back resurrected", 11:11 was the name of one of Macs first albums
I didn't know that but I know people make wishes at 11:11
Its a triple actually cause
1. You make wish at 11:11
2. Mac's album
3. Ellen's record label is named 11 11 linking back to the line "big bad dave got the ellen co-sign" as he was on ellen show
I loved that!! 🤘
When we were comin up in the 80’s we called ppl like Dave, “Posers.” Pretty sure no one knows what that means anymore...but he is 😁
I do. The sad part, is ML used to be a badass battle rapper, like at damn near Eminem levels. Don't know what happened to him, but he's for sure a power now.
Yeah...he is a poser. I hate we lost Miller and kept well....I know it's horrible to say but the truth hurts. P.S.A I am not wishing the has been dead, dude just give it up. Your story on Tom has been all lies. It wasn't about you....then something along the lines of Tom being mad because he, as in Mac, doesn't like him. Try the truth sometime , you would be amazed.
#HOG #TomMacdonald #Macwho??
@@heatherphillips5983 he fell off hard
I know what poser means. Does that mean I'm old damn I'm part of forgot generation generation x
Mac is so unworthy of even having Tom waste his time on him like this. Mac should be embarrassed.
Tom is a Canadian acting like he's from the United States lol
Mac makes me want the lethal injection rather than listen to his song again
🤣🤣🤣
Lmao! Ohh... good one! Lmfao! I'm dying in laughter!! 🤣 Me too! Totally I feel the same!
The slow rap of Toms First one was on purpose. First because mac is so old that he has to speak slow an clear for mac and also because mac loves to rap fast. So tom showed everybody you don't have to rap fast to be good.
The first diss was shit tho sooooo SHEESH xD
Agree
good knowledge. He also wrote both probably during a commercial and Mac Lethal had to wait 5 days for Tom MacDonald to write his own diss track for Lethal
The Chris Benoit bar hands down won it for Tom
His reaction to the Chris Benoit reference was priceless.
@@insidethemachine 🤣🤣 It was the best reaction that any reactor had reacting to that line
True thats the best bar of the whole battle by a long way and most people didnt catch it
Best line in any diss track ever
Facts
this just crossed my feed today…yes, 3 years after the fact…i have been wondering if someone put all the songs together…thank you SO much for this! I truly appreciate you taking the time to do this
When Tom said "tap on my shoulder and run" he was talking about how mac lethal dropped his diss then tweeted right after and said he wasn't gonna do a second diss
Tom didn't diss his Daughter... Mac sure sounds like he was searching for things... lol.... smh
He took the bait.
Funny how he supposedly heard of this "white rapper" that is much smaller than Tom but also never heard of Tom... that must be that common core math I've been hearing about
Dude seriously. I'm pretty new to this and that's the first thing that stuck out. If it was someone else, then who tf was it lol
Hahahahaha, I'm late but yes 🔥🔥
1, I'm so glad you did this because I've wanted to listen to this back & forth but everyone did single videos and I didn't know where to start - so THANK YOU! 2, I have on the same shirt as you haha. Thanks Nick!
GOOD VIDEO BRUV. We had some of the same takes on this. You know what you're talking about. 💪
Hi
Love your reactions too!! Awesome how you are giving respect to each other
Love you Flawd!! Your a goat and a real one
FLAWD!!! Just discovered Nick today so I’m going down the HOG rabbit hole! Glad you’re enjoying this, bruv!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #flawdsquad #hangovergang #letsdothisNick - loving your content
This isn't even a battle its mac kicking tom's car tire when no one was looking and running away crying 'jerk'
Brian yeah buddy
You got that right Tracy!! Lmao
@That Guy L
@That Guy L
This still gets me to this day! It cracks me up every single time…. Tom baits the hell out of Dave, Dave comes back with a crappy ass response and then Tom just murders him….. And then Tom gets his ultimate wish because anytime anyone watches one of these videos Dave gets resurrected and killed again and again and again🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant observation 👏🏻👏🏻🤣🤣
Stumbled upon this video and enjoyed, almost died laughing at how good it was
Tom was crafting Meta disses beyond just the words in the song, while Mac proved he lack simple verbal comprehension skills. Mac never stood a chance.
@@watsoncali25 shit, anyone know cpr !!?! quick someone call Tom Macdonald !
That's because Tom won't f with the big dogs and thinks this is a fjex
Excellent reaction Nick. Loved the breakdown, just subbed... looking forward to more. Another Canadian!
Tom said nothing about the daughter. Just Dave needs to step up as a dad.
Going after Nova was why Tom went so hard.
Yep....Tom went after Mac. Mac went after Nova and it was over like a nuclear bomb.
No wonder Mac didn’t respond
@@projects440 He didn't respond because tom cremated him lol.
He went easy on the first track on purpose I bet lmao, it was bait
Tom is a simp confirmed?
My phone picked up Tom's tracks as Tom's tracks. Mac's came up Snoop.
"I'm a visionary, you're a parody"
I don’t usually care about these petty fights, but in Tom’s defense, he didn’t start it, he finished it!
Tom won. Didn't even know who mac lethal was until tom and him beefed
my sentiments exactly! I didnt even know he was a thing either lol
It's actually good, if you knew who dave was, then the disses cut 10 times deeper and you will start feeling bad for dave lol
@@kingclint2382 bet dave or Mac lethal regrets saying anything about Tom now, the whole world is starting to know Tom.
Same
Same, & many moons ago I actually listened to ICP. Still no idea who dude is
Reason why he went so hard and personal, especially the Chris Benoit line, was the fact Mac went after Nova. I don't think Tom would have went after him so personally if Mac would have left Nova out of it.
💯💯💯
I honestly think its because tom doesn't have a censor honestly
Actually I think its an ICP. Jab, They have wrestled since around 89-90. Just another coat tail Mac grabbed onto. He raps fast, but the high school competition and Perks were over after several dick moves on Macs part.
Yep. You don’t fuck with Nova
He dropped that second one in a fucking day. Tom is a God.
Hes not
@@judehunt409 L
@pdaddah no thanks im good
@pdaddah you really are a hardcore simp arent you
No, he's Tom MacDonald.
Thanks for bringing these together
Tom is literally my idol. He is so versatile and creative. So inspiring and honest...HOG forever ❤️❤️❤️💯
lol, Tom McDonald is your idol? I wanna ask your parents some questions, and find out where they failed so I don’t do the same thing.
There’s people out there who have done extraordinary things, and accomplished things that are almost impossible.., and yet your idol is not one of those people, it’s a guy who makes videos and songs on RUclips crying about how everyone is out to get him and how hard it is being him. He hates on SJW and “snowflakes”, and yet every single one of his videos he’s just a crybaby imagining how life is so damn hard for him, a “straight white male”.
Come on bro, toughen up a bit. I’m a straight white dude too, it’s really not all that bad. Not enough to create a whole song crying about it.
Get a new role model, or someone to look up to, cause this guy ain’t it.
Rep it loud
@@kyleerrington8004 I feel like you didn’t listen to the opening bar Tom dropped. Do research first. Dude was deep in addiction and on the brink of homelessness and does everything independent.
@@kyleerrington8004 damn you are just as bad as everyone else and have to hate on someone for considering someone an idol who came from nothing to make an honest living, keep you stupid comments to yourself buddy
@@kyleerrington8004 REALLY STUPID COMMENT !!
I started listening a Tom McDonald after I heard No Good Bastards, became a fan after I heard Fake Woke especially after he said something along lines that “ everyone is talking about defunding the police, but order food and call the cops to see who shows up first” facts. Especially where I’m from.
I started to listen to him in 2018
Me too.
"They're gunna need a whole family of coffins when you Chris Benoit them to solve all your problems"
*Insert Dial-up noise here*
*Nick.EXE has crashed*
That line was absolutely brutal. Killed everyone.
@@MrScorbett315 I remember watching it the day it dropped, I actually screamed: JESUS CHRIST!!!
in the library.🤣🤣🤣🤣
That line hits every single time, no matter how many times you listen
I appreciated the longer format. Thanks for sharing your Reaction Video!
like how Tom killed him at the end with fast rap because thats what Mac is known for.
This is no rap battle, Tom won by a mile. this is diss-appointing
@That Guy Macs flow was wack and he contradicted himself several times. He would've won, if he had more consistent disses. A lot of Macs OWN fans agree Mac got flamed.
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I love the Chris Benoit reaction bro. I never get tired of it. HOG is savage!!!
Hahaha BRUTAL! Just plain BRUTAL!!!
It ended there!
Real reactions recognize that verse.
If you're a younger cat, you get a pass, but if you're 30 or ovwr, no sympathy
I can’t believe this is three years old and fresh comments are rolling second by second.
Toms got him by the throat and he’s barely flexin
62 years old.....now Im a lover of Rap. Getting old is not so bad, listening to Tom. Very Loud in myTruck, windows down rapping to Tom 😂🤣😂❤️
Do not care what others think of me.
I will never get tired of people reacting to this.
Can you believe people are stupid enough to think mac won 🤣🤣🤣
The mother of the year line always has the best reaction
Tom fucking killed it...WOW Mac u suck! Tom that was fucking Awesome
Same
Same.
Yeah, no diss on his daughter, just his parenting 😅
Thanks for the unbiased opinion and great review. reading through some of the comments it seems like there are so many of us, VERY like-minded. Hang over gang gonna take over mane 🤘
Unbiased??? He didn't even know Mac when he was dissing people like Tech N9ne on Scramble jams and admitted he didn't know Mac, please explain how that's not biased???
honestly this is the first time ive heard both diss tracks and i have seen some of Macs videos( which in my opinion is weak with no style or tone) but tom never dissed his daughter. tom is a way better person and better rapper.
Yep
I love watching peoples reaction to this knowing what's coming.
Tom never really dissed Mac’s daughter, all he really said was Mac should stay off drugs because he’s broke and has a daughter at home. That ain’t a diss about the daughter he just pointed out he had a drug problem and now has a kid
Exactly. He was showing concern for the daughter. Liberally the opposite of a dis.
Nah it's a huge diss to point out to a kid that their dad is Mac Lethal... 😂
the benoit diss is the hardest hitting diss I have ever heard on a diss track
You're not being biased. Tom used Mac for a mop and Mac just bowed out and let him do it.
Yeah.., like honestly I feel like Mac definitely had the potential to go harder then he did... but he just didn’t. I’d say Tom is better regardless... but really expected more from MacLethal.
@@technician0096 that's how I feel too, I know Mac since 2010, never been a fan of him but he definitely had more potential than this playground disstrack and disappointed
He is though. He praised things that Tom did, and bashed Mac for doing the same shit. I’ll give you an example. He bashes Mac for back tracking, but when Tom talks about Mac being in narcotics anonymous, and then says that he’s been sober for eight years, dude says nothing. He also praised Tom for lines that have been said before. Versions of the Chris Benoit, and kept lethal, but lost miller lines have been said before. I agree that Mac could have released a better song, but I’m not going to pretend like both of toms songs were consistently great either.
@@daelenstonemeier490 how is tom mentioning narcotics anonymous and saying he been sober for 9yrs backtracking? Ppl can be in AA and still be sober, that's how some stay on the straight by going to meetings..
@@valykis your cherry picking my points. What about the other things that I said? On top of that Tom lied about how much he’s worth. According to google Tom is only worth $100,000.
I feel like Tom was going slow at fist intentionally as part of the old man dissing
He laid a trap and Mac fell right into it lol
exactly why
Don't care what anyone says, Tom slayed the hell outta that backpedaling ass Mac n Cheese.
Fr but they both still trash as hell
@@username-pq4nb name another rapper?
@@Choomblaster *Lil Wayne, Kanye West and **Logic.You** probably just now getting into Rap because you are a natural born **conservative.So** I'm guessing you listen to country music and Heavy Metal Music.*
It all depends on the people you try to speak to in your music lil Wayne trash,Kanye lost his mind, heavy metal and country in my mix also, sounds better when muds kicked up on the side of the truck, music choice for me depends on my situation, we are the ones that like everything and when and if the US stands for their rights I will stand with anyone willing to stand for themselves...your favorite music idle is not going to protect you..ARM UP LETS GO!
@@hazyrx9279 He still Conservative, but most conservative are losing their mind.
I love watching this funeral and finding different reactions to watch to it to see what the reactor has to say! 🤣🤣🤣
Great reaction! Thank you!
Tom MacDonald singlehandedly reinvigorated the reaction community 😁😂
Okay, the line "you got a pet bird? You never thought you'd be dead first" miners used to bring birds with them in the mines, if there was gases in the mine that were harmful, the bird would die first because there lungs are smaller, so the miners would know to run when the bird dies.
So tom saying "you never thought you'd be dead first" is because I he killed mac faster than a bird could die in a mine. It's so clever and I haven't seen anyone mention this bar!
Tom is the GOAT!
In that Long tweet, Mac says, “ This is art, not a competition “ Who the hell is he kidding? It’s rap- it IS a competition.
When Mac was a battle rapper? That's the most asinine, contradictory thing he could have said.
Honestly though, what kind of cop out is that? Especially coming from a former battle rapper.
@@seabass819, I used to do battle rap around the time Mac did (never met him; I have 5 years of age on him, too). And, if I were in the same situation, no phucking way would I use that cop-out; that's beyond ludicrous. Like Tom said, "Dave, counterculture is who beats you up."
@@johndeeregreen4592 That's because he won a high school rap battle contest sponsored by ICP. I'm also older and know personally about a lot of the unappreciated help he received and still treated those who gave up time and money like garbage. Mac can rap fast, but is immature and needs to finally grow up and come up with his own ideas.
@@johndeeregreen4592 agreed😂🤣
Thanks for the breakdown bro. I'm 3 years too late but wanted to know the history, more than just the tweets. Good job.
I never thought i would watch a 50 minute RUclips video but this was truly entertaining. Tom won, no doubt. Dude's a giant 🔥🔥
Tom wrote the SICKESTTTT diss I’ve ever heard. “Hi Dave, hi Dave, hi Dave... I’m not even try-ang” ☺️ my personal favorite part is “nobody cares bout your music no marrr” 🤣 he legit murdered ML
You need to listen too more rap then if that's the best Diss you've ever heard..
Like, please! Go listen too something now... Like... Now! 🤣
@@PC4ever when it comes to diss tracks, literally anyone...except nick cannon and az izz, they have awful diss tracks. Please don't act smart when you think Tom Macbloodydonald has the best diss ever 🤔🤣🤨
I wouldn't call his diss the sickest, but Tom is pretty dang good compared to what is out there now. Old school wise and even still relevant today, 2Pac's diss to Biggy about his wife Fay, himself, and his crew called Hit "Em Up, is still epic as all hell. Lets not forget Ice Cubes diss to NWA, especially Eazy-E, called No Vaseline. The 90's are still the best era of this genre of music. Rappers and hip hop artists still can't hold a candle to the 90's. It was a special time and moment, good and really bad, where artists actually had something worth saying. That was because of what was happening in the 80's and early 90's. There are some decent artists out there today, but most artists today make up stories, try joining gangs just to get street cred and try to seem more legit than their fake ass lives that they live, or to make their fans think that they are gangsta's, instead, they are just wanksta's wanting to be gangsta.
@@DeathWish92 Tom Macbloodydonald? Lmao wtf
@@H0und0fHircin3 lmao xD
Great reaction. I watched the whole thing, but was really waiting to see your reaction to the Chris Benoit line, and you didn't disappoint. That line was really one of the hardest bars in any dis.
I made the mistake of watching the second Mac Leathal Diss first. I was just exploring Tom’s music and it came up on auto play. And now I’m immersing myself into the world of diss tracks xD
Hey Bro - love this reaction video. I'm a new TM fan and this video really fill in some blanks for me.
Toms' video is meant to feel slow, old and tired. Just like Mac Lethal career.
Never thought I would watch a 50 minute video
This guy pauses every 5 seconds. I'm shocked this isn't a 2 hour video!
I love long videos in general.
Me neither 😹
I sat here thinking i would get bored... Well here I am an hour later... No regrets.
@Seahawksfan420 yet here we are..... lol
That drive by line is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard in a rap 😂
Agreed
I’m pretty sure Nick missed the point of that line.
“If you did a drive by, I’d wave”
Mac’s shots at Tom all missed the critical mark.
That’s how I interpret that anyway 🤷♂️
Tom didn't diss Macs kids. He said you have a daughter at home. That's just common knowledge he didn't say anything negative about the daughter. That's stupid.
Mac sounds like a 10 year old arguing on an elementary school playground. Tom has more creativity in his little finger than Mac has had in his lifetime.
I completely agree!!
I'd say tom has more creativity on the booger he picked out his nose with the tip of his pinky then mac has in his whole body 🤣
no joke. You nailed it. Mac sounds like a little boy dissing to pass time, Tom put out lyrics that people kill themselves over, especially when you see Macs was a bunch of ad-hominem and Tom's was personal, accurate AF, and cut like a sword. Way better punchlines too, no joke. That diss goes so hard it makes me uncomfortable to listen to. That's hard.
I never get tired of this battle 🥰
always find myself going to the whole beef
Hahaha, me either 😂🤣
Tom "Clown" McDonald Diss ruclips.net/video/DzJ-hewhFF4/видео.htmlsi=wA759xDU-ZvKyDap
Tom can't help it, he's just talented as shit. Even if Nova helps him on songs, who cares, he's smart enough to use her talent...they make a good team. edit: I've heard this song a bunch and just now heard the Chris Benoit thing! whoa
I think she wrote the couple lines that were going at Dave's wife in this song
@@smudent2010 She prob wrote the whole thing cuz Tom isnt a lyricist and isnt controversial
@@NeckCS2 what the hell are you talking about? You keep trolling but you make absolutely no sense. Tom does his own lyrics and music Nova edits and helps film the videos. Get off here troll
@@NeckCS2 I listen to Tom on pandora you can look up which songs he writes solo. It is all his best work like No Response and This House. Nova helps with hooks. Nova is an insanely talented director. But, her solo music is no where near Tom’s quality. If you can listen to her music and pretend she writes Toms stuff you’re crazy. Straight White Male isn’t controversial?🙄
PS - The majority of Rappers have entire teams of writers or load up their songs with guest stars. Tom having only one person is impressive AF and he makes his own beats. Fuck he even builds most of his music sets.
😂😂😂😂 3 years later
"BRO HE SAID HE GON KILL YOUR BIRD"!
-No Life Shaq
Shaq is one of the funniest reactors ever lol but I wish he caught the Benoit line
He said "he said he gonna kill yo bird!!! You gotta fight him!!!!" God I died so much at that part
YOU GOTTA FIGHT HIM!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mac had 3 weeks with a shit video..tom and nova filmed and released this one in 36 hours!!
This dissing is 'mostly peaceful', but yeah, Tom won by a landslide! ;) Serious tho, he did
Lmao your reaction to thee line is priceless 🤣
lmao... your face when he says the chris benoit line
Very... very surprised you caught the Chris Benoit bar. Not a lot do 😂
Yea, that "tap on my shoulder and run" line was an analogy referring to the beef itself.
Mac was talking about how Tom was a wrestler, but he's a martial artist.
So, Tom responded to that basically saying "dude, you're a martial artist and I'm a wrestler, but you'll tap on my shoulder (the initial passive aggressive tweet) then run (denying that the tweet was about Tom as soon as he was confronted).
Very clever bar and one of the many that vaporized Mac Lethal.
Whoever said Mac lethal won just doesn't understand rap. Lyrically it was better, had better cadences, his flow was far smoother, beats were way better than a old school beat he put together in 5 minutes. Plus he makes you picture shit in your head. Maclethal shows pics