@@overvolted you’re doing great work here, I literally just started looking into this today and here your videos are! May need some tutorials later though lol!
The new battery had an Anderson style connector. I added an XT90 to the leads coming from the bike and then made a little adapter to go to xt90 from the battery. Didn't want to change the battery connector since I'm going to be upgrading the motor and controller soon. I can do a short or something with an overview of how it's connected. Definitely once the parts come in since it'll be opened up already. For charging i just tapped into the stock charge port and use a lithium ion charger with the same connecting type.
Lead acid batteries typically require a constant voltage charging profile, where the voltage is held constant and the current decreases as the battery charges. On the other hand, lithium batteries require a constant current-constant voltage (CC-CV) charging profile, where the current is held constant until the battery reaches a certain voltage level, after which the voltage is held constant. Using a lithium charger to charge a lead acid battery can result in overcharging, which can lead to excessive gassing, heat generation, and potential damage to the battery. It can also be dangerous as overcharging a lead acid battery can cause it to release hydrogen gas, which is explosive.
Great video, Thank you for doing the leg work for us. One point of criticism though. Did you use tin snips to cut the battery box? Please get some of the automotive trim stuff to cover that "tetanus shot waiting to happen". I look forward to the rest of the upgrades. P.S. when you go LiFePO4, remember that the discharge current is dictated by the BMS. If you go custom, you might be able to make a couple smaller AH batteries with each having their own BMS and parallel them to double the discharge current handling.
Were you running on speed setting 3? I keep it on 2 and avg between 30-35mph on my 40 mile round trip and have 72 volts left on my 50ah battery. I also have purchased the bluetooth adapter for the yuyangking controller and have adjusted the settings a bit. I did like seeing you getting up to 40mph on gps. I usually only get those speeds with the first 10% of my battery. I have the 2023 Venom ex20. I might try next year to upgrade my battery (50A max) to 100-120A and my controller as well so it can actually deliver that. I will see if the 2000w QSMotor can take it... I like the Venom vids you have and hope to see more. Its a great little bike and is super fun to ride and there are tons of mods i see people doing with these...
Some replacement parts are easy to come by, some are not the motor and controller that I bought should work but I haven't actually hooked them up yet to confirm but I will make a full video and Link all the parts that actually work on that video
Brothers- My front wheel spacers are wearing the front forks...? The outer spacers always have a gap After riding a few days even after tightening the axle bolt... When I take it apart there is gray sludge coming from the front forks where the spacers rub... I still have the internal center spacer between the bearings So I know the bearings aren't Coming closer together... Do you guys just ride with washers?
I beg for your help 🙏, while mine was charging at work, it let out a terrible burning smell thats now definitely proven to be the battery, what is the exact model you’re using? Ive check the links but cant find an available one/ one of the sellers canceled it just to add a 200 dollar difference to actually order it, im just really struggling, its my only way to work, around in general and Ive only had it for 4 months before it gave out on me.. i just am not sure what to do and have lost $2300
I forgot to mention, people have mentioned it may have been overcharging, but my town is 2 miles wide and i only use it to go to work the.home which is only 2 miles too and from.. i only charged it once the charging icon came on as well.. the company has been no help but adding a battery itself would solve everything 🙏
Hello! I've updated the links in this video. They look similar but I changed sellers on the first link to the correct one. That one should be more reliable. Also, the battery I got from AliExpress seems to still be there (exact one I'm using) but the Amazon links will get you something faster. I'd recommend the first one since it's LiFePo4.
Did you cut the battery box compartment open to fit the new battery into it? I thought there would have been away to remove the brackets holding the box in. What kind of tool did you use to cut the compartment open?
@@overvolted I can't blame you. I ended up removing the box bolts (after removing plastics on both sides) to lower the box, set in the lithium, and then connect everything back up. I wanted to keep the structural integrity of the battery box because in the winter time I might switch back to SLA batteries to leave it outside without worrying about destroying the lithium battery in 30 degree weather. I figure Spring/Fall = Lithium, Summer/Winter = SLA. I live in Las Vegas so we get extreme heat in summer and then extreme cold in winter nights. I modified the wires from the Evader to an Anderson plug because that's what the lithium takes, and have an adapter that goes from Anderson to O rings for the SLA batteries. The lithium gets me 40ah while the SLA 20ah, but it is what it is lol. Thank you for your video, it was really helpful and inspired me to make the switch to Lithium.
just ordered one in blue! first time ever motorcycle ( went with this due to ease of use and electric ) just wondering am I able to buy a LCD display for the cluster gauge? i wanted a lcd speedometer and not the black and white style like it comes with
I've got mine charging through the stock port. I just wired it into the battery. Of course I use a different charger for lithium batteries instead of the one that came with the bike.
@overvolted Thanks for the help, I figured using a lithium charger but wasnt sure if the pins were different and if the controller would charge it properly
@@CxldMelodic the chargers use standard types for connections so you'll just have to get a lithium charger that has the same end (or cut it and put the other end on).
I got a 2020 venom evader on a trade from a friend...the dude rode it 6 times put away and never charged again and im certain of that fact ...where can i get a battery bank for it , i cant find anything
Ya with the other variables all the same it was pretty similar per amp hour. I'm sure the 8k watt motor I'm going to put on will sip some more juice though
This title that I have says 2023.... But it could have been based on anything really since the bodywork had to accommodate the battery/controller it wouldn't be exact.
I am purchasing the 2023 version. However I’ve read how bad the lead acid battery can be for the bike and longevity. Where can I buy an upgrade battery, and A: is the installation hard to do for replacement and B: how much is it?
Cool! I added some links in the description. To some battery options..as long as you make sure the battery you buy will fit before buying then it's pretty easy. Plug and play really with the only special tools needed is a soldering iron to put a new plug on the bike side to match your battery.
Wait, I’m confused. There not clip ins I have use a soldering iron? Did you cut out part of the bike to make the battery fit too? Just looking for clarification. Thanks.
So stock the bike has a positive and negative lead that directly get mounted to the positive and negative of the battery array with a bolt that attached it to the battery terminals. However, when you buy a new battery it'll come with either xt90 connectors or Anderson plugs. Generally the battery also comes with the mating side so you can hook the battery up to something. So since the stock screw in terminal mount connectors won't directly hook up to an xt90 (for example) then you can cut the ends off the wires coming from the bike and attach the female side of whatever plug came with your battery. I guess you wouldn't have to solder it but it makes for a nice connection. You could use some larger butt connectors and other connection blocks if you want. If you don't want to cut the stock wires I'm sure you could find a terminal connecting block and use that. You would just want a connection that can carry the current of the battery so whatever works.
@@overvoltedUpdate it desulfated my lead acid batteries Which are probably in storage for a long time .. Before they shipped me the bike...Now it's much faster it has much more range but I only use the amazon charger 1 time For 7 hours
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Thanks for the info and looking forward to more!
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@@overvolted you’re doing great work here, I literally just started looking into this today and here your videos are!
May need some tutorials later though lol!
I don't know why the YT algorithm hates you so much but I think your content is great.
Thanks man!
I really appreciate that!
How do you adapt this new 72v lithium battery. Can you do a video on how to install and how to charge and what charging port or charger to use!
The new battery had an Anderson style connector. I added an XT90 to the leads coming from the bike and then made a little adapter to go to xt90 from the battery. Didn't want to change the battery connector since I'm going to be upgrading the motor and controller soon. I can do a short or something with an overview of how it's connected. Definitely once the parts come in since it'll be opened up already. For charging i just tapped into the stock charge port and use a lithium ion charger with the same connecting type.
Thanks!
First donation!
Very interested in this! Hoping you move to a speed controller and maybe even a motor upgrade as well.
Are 2 motors on these doable?
@@Askfgghb thanks!!! I have the new motor and new speed control that showed up. I'll be doing the upgrade soon!
@@Askfgghb 2 motors- anything is doable!
Great video. Excited to learn from you and see the final state
Thanks Marcus! I appreciate it!
loved the video thank you been waiting for this super excited to see the speed controller and motor upgrade
steve when is the golf cart build coming out???? the kid with the flamingo paints is AWSOME!!!!
When I get time to Edit. want to be my video editor?
@@overvolted no thank you
Lead acid batteries typically require a constant voltage charging profile, where the voltage is held constant and the current decreases as the battery charges. On the other hand, lithium batteries require a constant current-constant voltage (CC-CV) charging profile, where the current is held constant until the battery reaches a certain voltage level, after which the voltage is held constant.
Using a lithium charger to charge a lead acid battery can result in overcharging, which can lead to excessive gassing, heat generation, and potential damage to the battery. It can also be dangerous as overcharging a lead acid battery can cause it to release hydrogen gas, which is explosive.
I'm using a lithium battery charger for the lithium battery in mine.. didn't show it on the video.. probably should have.
Great video, Thank you for doing the leg work for us. One point of criticism though. Did you use tin snips to cut the battery box? Please get some of the automotive trim stuff to cover that "tetanus shot waiting to happen". I look forward to the rest of the upgrades.
P.S. when you go LiFePO4, remember that the discharge current is dictated by the BMS. If you go custom, you might be able to make a couple smaller AH batteries with each having their own BMS and parallel them to double the discharge current handling.
Hahaha. That's awesome and you're totally right. I'm not much of a metal working guy....which is obvious. Lol I'll work on my skills. Thanks!
Were you running on speed setting 3? I keep it on 2 and avg between 30-35mph on my 40 mile round trip and have 72 volts left on my 50ah battery. I also have purchased the bluetooth adapter for the yuyangking controller and have adjusted the settings a bit. I did like seeing you getting up to 40mph on gps. I usually only get those speeds with the first 10% of my battery. I have the 2023 Venom ex20. I might try next year to upgrade my battery (50A max) to 100-120A and my controller as well so it can actually deliver that. I will see if the 2000w QSMotor can take it... I like the Venom vids you have and hope to see more. Its a great little bike and is super fun to ride and there are tons of mods i see people doing with these...
That's awesome! Yes I was on 3 for my test. I'm going 8000w motor which should be.... plenty. lol
Do you mind linking the speed controller and the motor? Also is it easy to get replacement parts for this bike?
Some replacement parts are easy to come by, some are not the motor and controller that I bought should work but I haven't actually hooked them up yet to confirm but I will make a full video and Link all the parts that actually work on that video
Brothers- My front wheel spacers are wearing the front forks...? The outer spacers always have a gap After riding a few days even after tightening the axle bolt... When I take it apart there is gray sludge coming from the front forks where the spacers rub... I still have the internal center spacer between the bearings So I know the bearings aren't Coming closer together... Do you guys just ride with washers?
I beg for your help 🙏, while mine was charging at work, it let out a terrible burning smell thats now definitely proven to be the battery, what is the exact model you’re using? Ive check the links but cant find an available one/ one of the sellers canceled it just to add a 200 dollar difference to actually order it, im just really struggling, its my only way to work, around in general and Ive only had it for 4 months before it gave out on me.. i just am not sure what to do and have lost $2300
I forgot to mention, people have mentioned it may have been overcharging, but my town is 2 miles wide and i only use it to go to work the.home which is only 2 miles too and from.. i only charged it once the charging icon came on as well.. the company has been no help but adding a battery itself would solve everything 🙏
Hello! I've updated the links in this video. They look similar but I changed sellers on the first link to the correct one. That one should be more reliable. Also, the battery I got from AliExpress seems to still be there (exact one I'm using) but the Amazon links will get you something faster. I'd recommend the first one since it's LiFePo4.
Did you cut the battery box compartment open to fit the new battery into it? I thought there would have been away to remove the brackets holding the box in. What kind of tool did you use to cut the compartment open?
I mangled it open with some tin snips actually. It wasn't the prettiest but it worked
@@overvolted I can't blame you. I ended up removing the box bolts (after removing plastics on both sides) to lower the box, set in the lithium, and then connect everything back up. I wanted to keep the structural integrity of the battery box because in the winter time I might switch back to SLA batteries to leave it outside without worrying about destroying the lithium battery in 30 degree weather. I figure Spring/Fall = Lithium, Summer/Winter = SLA. I live in Las Vegas so we get extreme heat in summer and then extreme cold in winter nights. I modified the wires from the Evader to an Anderson plug because that's what the lithium takes, and have an adapter that goes from Anderson to O rings for the SLA batteries. The lithium gets me 40ah while the SLA 20ah, but it is what it is lol. Thank you for your video, it was really helpful and inspired me to make the switch to Lithium.
just ordered one in blue! first time ever motorcycle ( went with this due to ease of use and electric ) just wondering am I able to buy a LCD display for the cluster gauge? i wanted a lcd speedometer and not the black and white style like it comes with
Hey that's awesome! Super exciting. I am sure that you can replace the display but it needs to be one compatible with the controller
How big of a battery would i need for 100 miles my euc gets 120 consistently though it usually takes two days to drain if i dont doordash
From my testing with the stock motor, 100ah battery would do it if you ride like I do (full throttle)
So whats the charging solution? I want to put 6 Lifepo4 batteries in series but not sure on thr charging solution
I've got mine charging through the stock port. I just wired it into the battery. Of course I use a different charger for lithium batteries instead of the one that came with the bike.
@overvolted Thanks for the help, I figured using a lithium charger but wasnt sure if the pins were different and if the controller would charge it properly
@@CxldMelodic the chargers use standard types for connections so you'll just have to get a lithium charger that has the same end (or cut it and put the other end on).
@overvolted Got it, I really appreciate it man
@@CxldMelodic absolutely!
I got a 2020 venom evader on a trade from a friend...the dude rode it 6 times put away and never charged again and im certain of that fact ...where can i get a battery bank for it , i cant find anything
I got mine from China lol. Link in the description of the video. You can get batteries on Amazon though. Also AliExpress that sort of thing
So the lithium and lead batteries had similar mileage taking into account the amp hr
Ya with the other variables all the same it was pretty similar per amp hour. I'm sure the 8k watt motor I'm going to put on will sip some more juice though
Great video broski! Liked, subscribed and commenting 🫡
Well thanks man!!! I Appreciate it !
.... What year model Is this clone based on Because I'm trying to find a Honda flat seat to fit mine?...2022?
This title that I have says 2023.... But it could have been based on anything really since the bodywork had to accommodate the battery/controller it wouldn't be exact.
Its based off of a 2014 grom
Is this bike titled by your dmv?
It comes with the title and bill of sale So that it can be registered.
Do you think is possible to put 6 lifePO4 batteries ( 12v 20ah), i mean just replacing the fabric ones for liFePO4
Definitely if dimensions fit then then that would work. You'd have to make sure the LiFePo4 batteries can have 6 in series though.
@@overvolted well in the specifications says that it support 4 in series and unlimited number in parallel
Imma pray to not become the ghost rider lol
I am purchasing the 2023 version. However I’ve read how bad the lead acid battery can be for the bike and longevity. Where can I buy an upgrade battery, and A: is the installation hard to do for replacement and B: how much is it?
Cool! I added some links in the description. To some battery options..as long as you make sure the battery you buy will fit before buying then it's pretty easy. Plug and play really with the only special tools needed is a soldering iron to put a new plug on the bike side to match your battery.
Wait, I’m confused. There not clip ins I have use a soldering iron? Did you cut out part of the bike to make the battery fit too? Just looking for clarification. Thanks.
So stock the bike has a positive and negative lead that directly get mounted to the positive and negative of the battery array with a bolt that attached it to the battery terminals. However, when you buy a new battery it'll come with either xt90 connectors or Anderson plugs. Generally the battery also comes with the mating side so you can hook the battery up to something. So since the stock screw in terminal mount connectors won't directly hook up to an xt90 (for example) then you can cut the ends off the wires coming from the bike and attach the female side of whatever plug came with your battery. I guess you wouldn't have to solder it but it makes for a nice connection. You could use some larger butt connectors and other connection blocks if you want. If you don't want to cut the stock wires I'm sure you could find a terminal connecting block and use that. You would just want a connection that can carry the current of the battery so whatever works.
Need updates
Me too
Amazon charger ruined my lead acid batteries.....it was multi purpose...they lied
Yeah some of those sellers on Amazon are pretty sketch.
@@overvoltedUpdate it desulfated my lead acid batteries Which are probably in storage for a long time .. Before they shipped me the bike...Now it's much faster it has much more range but I only use the amazon charger 1 time For 7 hours
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Hello! What is the product?
@@overvolted Hi, Great! That's the power conversion kit related products, How can I contact you?
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