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Handtool vs. Powertool Shootout - Milling Rough Sawn Lumber | Hand Tool Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2017
- My regular milling routine is hybrid but for a demonstration I prepped one board using only hand tools. Going from raw lumber to s4s stock ready for joinery can be an intimidating task for the uninitiated, but it is a critical skill in woodworking. Square and straight stock is what makes joinery possible, and allows you to make unique boxes, case work, and furniture. It affords you the opportunity to work with amazing local woods, and exotics at the most affordable in there raw form, and gives you a reason to make a friend at your local lumber yard.
Starting with a scrub plane, and using hand saws, and my trusty Bedrock Jack Plane. It was quite a workout, by the end I was drenched in sweat and breathing heavy. Then I took a piece from the same board and prepped it using machines: my jointer, planer, and tablesaw.
It was pretty obvious that the machines would win, but I figured this was an interesting way to present the information.
The hand prepped board took 27 minutes to prepare, and I didn't even have to pull any wind out of the board.
The Machine prepped board took 7 minutes, and I completely forgot to stop the clock while I move the camera from machine to machine.
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I love it when woodworkers make videos comparing hand tools with power tools. Thank you.
I even think that with a few added elements, we could argue that hand tools can get the job done faster than power tools for one-off projects:
- much less sanding if at all
- in most furniture projects, there is no need to actually bring the back face to exact thickness, let alone make it parallel or even smooth. The inside of my antique cupboard has rails and panels that are scalloped and rough.
- no need to don a mask, ear or eye protection
- no need to empty the dust collector bag
- no downtime for oiling, resetting, dusting off, or when the irons need to be sent for resharpening and replaced
- possibility to sneak short work sessions at odd hours when noise would be a big no-no
- for one-off projects, the part where the machines can save time is just a fraction of the total time (drawing the plans, choosing lumber, rough sizing and optimizing the cut plan, dry fitting, glueing, installing the hardware, finishing, etc. are all done by hand anyway). Therefore the relative gain from using machines is much less than it looks.
Obviously this only holds for one-off projects. For anything even mildly repetitive, machines can't be beat.
I much prefer hand tools. Machines are fast but at the cost of being noisy, dusty, loud, large, requiring setup or jigs, expensive, and more dangerous. They are definitely what I would use in a commercial setting when volume is needed.
On a hobbyist level hand tools are what I prefer. Quiet, peaceful, meditative, clean, cheap, they fit into a small cabinet, and when you get really proficient with them they can be surprisingly speedy anyway.
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+Clouded Reality That is so cool, where are you apprenticing?
im a timber framer in the UK but also learning joinery at college
+Clouded Reality that is AWESOME good luck man.
Wood.Work.LIFE. thank you keep up the great videos man
Machines can make short work of the sizing and squaring stock. I don’t have a power jointer or thickness planer my shop lacks floor space and I’m not interested in hiring an electrician to up my power. So it’s important for me to learn how to use hand planes including sharpening and holding the stock for planing. Also, I do woodworking to quietly relax so I’m not in a race to get things done. BTW power tools require set up and routinely checking them this adds time to getting a project done. I did like your comparison and the comment about how dangerous the jointer is. You have a good understanding of both methods which makes your work more interesting.
Love the bedrock
great video dude, milling up timber is one of those jobs that you love to hate, i have it when i have 60metres or so to mill up from 27mm to 22mm it takes so long. but when you get through the rough sawn timber to smooth planed it is an amazing feeling, keep it up dude
Thanks man, I enjoy it. I have a huge project coming up with a bunch of panels and panel joinery and milling thickness and blah blah blah. I figured I would bring you guys into my hell :) thanks for watching!
Would have been faster with the scrub to have beveled the edges to thickness, started flat on the bench like you did the with the jack. A scrub works best when you alternate directions between across and 45 degrees each pass. Ideally 45 right, straight, 45 left, straight, etc... That keeps the best bite with the scub.
Noted, I have only milled probably 30 or 40 boards this way before I invested in a planer...
Fine if you have not only the money but perhaps more importantly the space, for the jointer, planer and table saw. I have neither, so I guess I'm going to be working on building my upper-body strength. It really doesn't matter at hobbyist level, just make something using beautiful wood.
+Tyvole for sure, never bad to get a work out. Hand tools or perfect for a hobbyist. Plus there is a lot lower chance if chopping some fingers off.
@Tyvole Must be nice to be able to afford hand tools Mr richy rich face.
@@allanshpeley4284 I guess it must. I never mentioned hand tools. You need to work on your reading comprehension and trolling skills.
Hi there from Portugal,
Nice info, I also like to use hand tools to prepare wood, and "workout" :D
Obrigado(Thanks)
+Blog das Madeiras Thanks for watching, it's good to do some cardio in the shop every now and again.
Thank you for the video!
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I'm late:( It's so funny to be back in my shop after working on a jobsite last week. No shmucks and no framing hammers,nail bags or nasty sun cooking me alive, No un reassuring It'll be fine that ladder is as solid as a rock. Don't get me wrong I love working on a site, learning, being more unsafe than I normally am, but I missed my shop. Thanks rick for giving me something to listen to while cleaned in my shop. I'm kind of pumped because I think I can carefully fit a jointer in the garage so.......it's gunna get real.
Never late Jack, to quote Ke$ha, "the party don't start 'til (you) walk in." 😀😀😀
aww, Rick your making me blush. Hey just wandering, Do you have any dust collection in your shop. I was thinking if i'm getting a jointer, I probably need some way to clean up other than a broom.
I like hand tools, but seldom use them for ripping along the grain. I use a thicknesser but not a surface planer, unless the stock is thick and heavy. I think it is too dangerous and there is usually some bounce. They are called buzzers in New Zealand, a very appropriate name. Using jigs it is possible to straighten bowed wood in a thicknesser. It works better than passing hands over blades!!! I try to avoid bowed planks. I wouldn’t use a circular saw without a riving knife.
A sensible video. Thanks.
No , I like hand work than power tools more time waste yes🤔 but very challenging and more practiceing .
I love my hand tools .😍
Brillant! Thanks for sharing
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Traversing the board with a scrub plane is a waste of time, scrub planes are reserved when you need to remove like half an inch of material, a medium camber fore plane which is longer than a nr.5, followed by a try plane should flatten that board in about 5-10 minutes, with some experience of course.
There is no work like hand work! or best work is hand work ? I cant remember. enjoyed the video.
those sleeves over the jointer , man!!!
Great overview. The handtool way seemed like quite the workout for you. But now I'm really interested in what your "hybrid" method is, thatd be a nice follow up.
Thanks Caleb, I will have to try that out.
Your blade seems to be dull
Would have been MUCH easier on you if you would have turned board around and planed with the grain instead of against it and would not have had such massive tare-out.
Well i started with some few power machines, but now im moving as much as possible to hand-tools because i like that "old spirit" of carpentry and well, when you make a lot of chairs or somenthing in some kind of "mass-production" power tools are great, but if you make pieces personalizated like me, difference between power machines and hand tools are not big enought, because machines have good presition but not as acurate like hand tools.
Saluts :)
Good day brother! Thanks for the comment.
I like the machine method, but I am a hybrid woodworker thou.
A little beeswax on the sole of the planes makes life so much easier....
indeed.
I have a very similar if not the same jointer and cannot find a guard spring do you have any idea where I can find one?
+David Thomas it was made by Emerson, maybe give them a shout?
Really great video but I wish you clamped down the larger face while planing.
Ya, I need a better work bench...I'm working on that
Nice video on how to mill rough sawn lumber, that walnut didn't look the easiest piece of timber to work with :)
+Brian Griffiths no it has been drying in a barn for 20+ years. There is such a thing as too dry, plus lots of bug damage. I wanted to check the condition of the wood to see what kind of projects it might be fit for. It is from my neighbor that lent me his drum sander and he wants to build a table with it.
Wood.Work.LIFE. I’m a year behind on this comment, but I’m struggling through some 20 year old, dry oak and considering buying jointer/planer. ;)
Please tell me where that awesome apron came from!
That is Atlas 46 my man, it is sweet
30 minutes into this planing video, I promise you he regretted it and thought ... I could stop, and they'd never know ...
+Sean Saulnier me, middle of the night, drenched in sweat, out of breath with a whole set of machines right there. The things I do for you guys :)
Wood.Work.LIFE. I like seeing someone working up a sweat in a woodworking video. With all the Instagram aesthetics going on today, I enjoy someone keeping it real.
Just curious is there any significance behind the ocp multicam apron?
?? not sure what you mean? That is the Atlas 46 apron, I usually wear it when I am working with hand tools.
I was just wondering if you were prior service is all. No offense just curious.
+Tony Easterday your good, none taken. Was just confused about what you were asking. Not a servicemen, but I have a lot of respect for them.
So, you made that. Before you started, it was bigger.
Milling basically yup, take wood make it smaller, flat, and straight :)
What kind of wood was that ?
That was some WAY overly dried walnut.
Dislike for the sudden change in sound volume at 16:04.
Otherwise, nice video.
Thanks for watching through to the end, I am working on it. I am not a hollywood studio damnit, I make things out of wood, the videos are getting better.
Wood.Work.LIFE. Thanks for the reply, your efforts are gratefully appreciated.
Thanks brotha, I appreciate the feedback as long as it comes from a good place. Check out some of my more recent videos. I have been trying to dial in my audio design. It is hard...
I had to stop watching when you pulled out the little square to check your board instead of just using the edge of the plane you already has in hand which was twice as long and would be far better than that little square you used which is primarily for lay out not checking for flat.
You never said how long it took with hand tools.
Thomas Hoskins I did, it was 27 minutes