well scientifically it would be impossible. but god can makes miracle. god can just make a portal to another dimension on the ark's gate, so that when the animals goes inside, they actually goes to bigger place. as for the food, when jesus on earth, he fed 5000+ people with just 2 piece of bread and 3 fishes.
The biggest problem with this Noah's Ark video is that it fails to address the arguments of the scientists who have shown that it can work. In particular, there is the peer-reviewed paper "Safety investigation of Noah's Ark in a seaway", and the comprehensive book "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study". If you fail to address the best arguments for the ark, you're just being intellectually lazy.
Look at the Pacific Garbage Patch - 1.6 million square kilometers of 50-100 years of human garbage floating in the middle of the Pacific today. In a Great Flood, hundreds of years of drift wood and vegetal matter on the bottom of the Earths Virgin forests would all float. The natural water currents would bring all the floating matter together. Just like today’s Pacific Garbage Patch which is half the size of India or Staten Island. More than enough room to support entire ecosystems of large land dwelling animals. And the animals themselves would instinctually find the dry land as the Earth flooded up. They’d all start climbing mountains and floating matter would clump around the mountains If the Great Flood happened, this is exactly what would happen.
According to the Bible, the ark only had one window. This means that methane from the animal waste would quickly build up inside the ark. Since torches and candles would have been the only possible light sources known in biblical times, the methane would quickly find an ignition source and cause a massive explosion.
@acmenipponair that is absolutely true. Today, I learned that Ken Ham had to install a massive HVAC system at his laughable ark park just so people wouldn't die from carbon dioxide poisoning. He went to great lengths to hide this fact, but the truth couldn't help but come out. It always does.
And according to the myth, God sealed the Ark once all were aboard, that would have included the single window. Everyone would have died of asphyxiation before the rain even started falling.
And the volume of the needed ark did not count for the corridors for the 8 guys serving those millions of animals and channels for shit and piss. Let alone going back and forth the other boats to get food. Perhaps kenny in kentucky have figured it out.
...and, as one unicorn said to the other - "Damn..we missed it... oh well, there will be another boat" - the dinosaurs agreed with the unicorn and they waited together.
LOL, as if the animals boarded willingly. I'm not sure that Noah would even know about animals not native to his part of the world, or where he could go looking for some.
@@paulrichards6894 the opposite seems likely too. But if god could swing this to rid the earth of all evil people, he could just as easily take them all out individually. Of course we all agree that it didn't work as there have clearly been many evil people since then.
You forgot the service paths between the animal cages. If you want to feed them you need access to every cage and that is considerable amount of empty space.
yup, and a thousand other things stored like electric toothbrushes, game consoles, external hard drives, would of been easy navigating from the Middle East, paddling by hand, to every continent dropping native species with instructions to paddle in place until the water drained (to where?) from the entire surface.And back exactly where he started! Amazing! And if you don't believe it just read the bible, he admits to MASS murder, but he loves us.
And Noah said to the kangaroos, “Stop f-ing hopping around or I’ll drop you off in Australia with all the snakes, spiders, crocodiles, and dinosaur birds”.
Here's another problem: Many animals require a specialized environment, such as the huge tropical trees, swamps, deep caves, extremely hot or cold places, and so on. They often require specialized diets. How did Noah procure all the foods that they needed? Moreover, after the Great Flood, all plant life on the former land surface of Earth would be obliterated forever. The soil would be totally saturated with salt from the sea water, so it would be impossible to grow anything there. Noah would have to gather up not just all the animals, but the plants that many of them require to live. Can you imagine him transplanting giant sequoia trees aboard the Ark?
Oh please tell em you are joking, the implicaations of your IQ if not are severely bad. You want to claim that a supernatural event has to have only natural events? That is just absurd, and now I see why it tends to be the people who do not think for themselves and who do not look and evidence, and who do not do reaserch are always the atheist.
Not only do Koalas feed (almost) exclusively on eucalyptus leaves, they will only eat them as they are freshly stripped from the branches that bear them. So Noah would have needed live, growing eucalyptus trees on board the Ark. The deeper you go, the sillier this story becomes.
@@drlegendre I think what's silly is you taking a story, which if it is true, which is waht your comment here would be implying to be needed, then you're saying a God that can create enough water to flood the entire Earth can't create leaves? I'm sorry, but that logic just isn't logically making sense.
If you read the bible, the ark was afloat just under a year. On the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible. Makes the problem worse. Then the plant eating animals need to have enough food to last them until the flooded ground dried enough to grow their food. Meanwhile, what do the carnivores munch on?
You’re assuming the floodwaters was saltwater, but it was most likely freshwater since the oceans are still getting saltier. Plant debris for the herbivores, fish for the carnivores.
@@CnCW453 Try leaving dead plants in water for that time. That is not edible anymore. And the fish would not be stranded on ground, the water would not recede fast enough. They would just swim away. Also, not all carnivores eat fish.
@@CnCW453 you're assuming this story has any truth in it, I don't believe it because of all the flaws in it. Everything and every person except those on the ark is dead. The whole world is dead and most of the animals are thousands of miles away from home. So the Koalas die of starvation waiting for the eucalyptus to grow. The Pandas die waiting for the bamboo to grow. That's assuming they managed to walk and/or swim thousands of miles back to where they walked and/or swam from the previous year. All the animal waste went out of the one window, thousands of tons of shit and thousands of gallons of piss. No ventilation no drains or pumps to help. I'm assuming the lower deck would be mainly dead animals by week six.
There's also the issues of hygiene & wood damage to consider as well. It'll be painful to not have a way to control all the piss & shit. Plus termites, beetles, worms & woodpeckers.
The "copy" at the Ark Encounter is actually a giant block of concrete with a wooden facade. Oh yeah, and said facade has to be repaired every year for, get this, water damage.
Whenever it rains here the grounds flood. It's quite hilarious. Not to mention that Grant county and the state gave the ark encounter tax exemptions and billions of dollars over budget which is fantastic because Grant country has a 16% poverty rate(Nationally it's 10%).
They deserve all of the consequences they get and then some, for throwing money at a creationist con man like Ken Ham! They never even came close to the visitor count they promised, and a great many of the ones who did go there were Atheists, in order to ridicule it and Ken! Bwahahahahahahaaaaa! AFAIK they can't even collect taxes on it because he declared it part of his ministry (a "special privilege" only religions get that is unconstitutional, as indoctrination is not charitable!)!
One problem that you forgot is ventilation. The story mentions only 1 small window, which would quickly result in everything dying from methane poisoning. Those modern arks need industrial air conditioning systems and still can’t have animals on board due to air quality, so a million or so animals could not fit.
Which makes you wonder who *really* wrote the story of Noah in the Bible aa they clearly didn't have good understanding of boats and it felt more like the work of a writer
@@queenbean7071 The story likely evolved from a historical event in Mesopotemia: You had people there who'd make rafts and put their animals on it to float down the river and sell them there. What likely happened is that a really bad flashflood swept one of those rafts down into the gulf and pretty much stranded the people there until they hit land again, after which they likely sacrificed some of their animals to the gods as thanks. Add a few centuries of retelling, finger waking and adding-on, and tada: the Flood of Noah.
@@anubisfox5765 Geology proves it untrue? How? Also please tell me your secrets of how you know everything that happened centuries ago without having experienced it?
This doesn't include the amount of fresh water needed to keep all the animals alive. Oh, and the collective heat and humidity from that many vertebrates in such close quarters within an insulated space (the wooden vessel) would probably cause a lot of heat stroke before long. Remember, humans are one of the only animals that sweat. Also, the sheer amount of accumulated urine and scat that would be deposited every day would be too much for Noah and his family to clean up. This would result in the waste piling up, increasing the change of disease and infection for much of the ark's denizens. The urine would saturate the place with so much ammonia by the end of the voyage, that much of the animals would have died from ammonia poisoning or asphyxiation. Even under the most generous conditions, the ark wouldn't work by far.
There are so many problems, irreconcilable problems with the flood/ark story. Supposedly, the ark was afloat for 150 days. So you have all the issues with space, food and water storage, waste removal, methane buildup, etc., but what about after the ark lands? How was food and water supplied for those gazillions of animals? The vegetation needed to feed the ruminant animals would taken AT LEAST an entire season to grow, not even taking into consideration the problem with the salinization of ALL the land. After landing, what did all the predators eat? It's just problem after problem with this entire story, start to finish.
Do not think about it, just believe with your heart;) EDIT: So many people take things seriously these days, and here I hoped that the emoticon will make it clear.
Never mind that polar bears and penguins need to be kept close to 0 degrees C and reptiles closer to 30 to 40 degrees C. Without a giant HVAC system on board, water filtering, lighting etc. the entire Ark would have just been a dead zone in a week or two. Add the fact when the flood finally receded and the animals left, all the plants were dead, so the grazing animals would have starved to death. Since there were no animals alive, what did the carnivores eat? This are literally a million reasons the story doesn't add up...
@@redbaron6805 Right, so even though a salt water Shark can adapt to be in fresh water, you draw the line at Polar bears needing to be cold? Just disregarding the fact that all bears are related, which includes Panda bears. Why are skeptics like you so ignorant of literally straightforward things such as that? It's like you feel the need for a problem to scoff at, but you never actually thought of the implications of your own argument. And you think they wouldn't have food? All animals were eating plants on the ark. Every animal that's a carnivorous now, just survived off plants. There was a lion that only ate plants a few decades ago, so it's not impossible. Noah just had to bring food onto the ark. It's really that simple. Your first arguments are really bad and easy to explain with a small amount of critical thinking, so what are the other complaints? How did Noah save the fresh water fish from dying in a salty flood?
@@johndodson8464 And they would need a way to collect and store that rainwater, right? Because the water they were floating on was not fresh. it had been mixed swamp water, ocean water, salt brine, and salt and alkali deposits from dry lake beds that exist all over the world to this day. As well as all the bloated dead and decaying bodies, of the humans and animals that died in the flood.
@@johndodson8464 They still needed to collect the water and store it. Maybe you should take five minutes and think about it before you ridicule others. Remember it did not rain for the intire time they were adrift on the ocean nor after they had run aground on Mount Ararat.
@@johndodson8464 Your the one who brought it up stupid. Are you insinuating that rotting corpses aren't going to release deadly bacteria and microbes into the water? Just how many times were you dropped on your head as a kid?
I always wondered where all the wood came from, and who let him get away with it. You'd think if you had a neighbor and he'd clear cut one square mile of forest and showed no sign of stopping, you might confront him about it. Whoever was selling him the axes must have made a fortune.
You'd have to keep tons upon tons of meat from spoiling within the 150 days, and you'd probably need more than that, since we don't want the carnivores to start a massacre as soon as the Arc lands.
No problem. Just have extra herbivores to feed the carnivores. And remember supply to feed them while still alive. You do not need a little ship, just a floating island, with flexibility to handle the waves. And a huge well-fed crew to keep it repaired, of course.
Well non mainstream evidence may suggest, man may have been that advanced then. I mean, there is many many statues in Egypt that we can only replicate today with computerised diamond tipped 3D machines. Which dont exist.
@@CriticalCoen you completely missed my point! To clarify we have no idea what technology they had for 290k yes 290 000 years. What we do know is their DNA was the same as it is today. Just like a sheep 300 000 years ago is the same as a sheep today! Same brain structure same intelligence. It has not evolved at all. (Edit of course a sheep has evolved through domestication, i meant its brain stricture and intelligence has not evolved) You may argue that knowledge has improved however we also know that knowledge can be lost. Evidenced by the pre dynastic and the first dynasty of Egyptians. A simple look on the differences of how they made their kitchen ware shows this.
@@philwhatever3903 No I did not miss your point. The discovery of DNA and what it means did not happen back then. I can guarantee you that. That requires knowledge and equipment that wasnt around. How do I know? Because of the impact it would have made. The world would be changed in a way we dont see in the historical records. Also, again, did not have the equipment. Just look at what we use today to decipher DNA. Didnt have that back then. Now, I totally get that people were more advanced than we think back then. And that is, in my opinion, probably true. But you fail to realise how far ahead (in certain subjects) we are in relation to our ancestors. We control atoms. Fucking atoms. For entertainment. Also, things did evolve. Good example are dogs.
@@CriticalCoen The thing is you can’t guarantee it at all. Again we have no idea of the level of technology or knowledge. There is even evidence of nuclear fission in history. Granted this is from a time before Homo sapiens had appeared, however there has been many types of humans that span millions of years into history. We simply do not know the level of knowledge they had. What we do know is there has been a number of natural disasters that could have been the reason for losing some knowledge.
Next questions: for both the biblically specified dimensions and the seaworthy and large enough flotilla of 100s of ships instead of one giant one, how many acres of cyprus trees would they need to cut down, and how many man hours would forestry, transport, and construction take given the tools and techniques of the time?
I've made similar arguments to a very religious person who would just answer with things like "through God all things are possible". So there's no point in trying to provide evidence to people who simply deny it all and rely completely on faith for everything they believe.
It's not a matter of believing your fool, it's a matter of facts Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible
Wouldn't Noah and his family also had to travel to other countries to collect various animals not found in their part of the world? Australia with its unique fauna comes to mind: 2 kangaroos, 2 koalas, 2 dingos etc.
How many more "kinds" of creatures existed than in comparison to now considering extinction. People fail to take that into account. I wonder how the South American Sloth made it on time for departure.
The flaw is also that we know today, using DNA analysis and attempts to restore endangered populations, that it takes a minimum of 50 of each animal to even attempt to restore the population, and preferably 500 to prevent genetic problems. Using 2 of each animal would have meant the populations would have quickly died out due to inbreeding and birth defects...
@@murderboytje this tale has so many plot holes. Should've smitten the wicked people instead. I mean, why wipe out animals and plants just to exterminate a few million people?
@@Teqnyq My favorite plot hole is God having an all encompassing plan, yet he is unable to see "he wickedness of man was great in the earth".... Kinda runs contrary to that Omniscient thing
The most realistic part of the story: After Noah lands he takes the clean animals he protected through the ordeal and kills most of them as sacrifices to thank God, then immediately plants a vineyard, starts brewing up some wine, and proceeds to become the first alcoholic of the new world.
And I like how they decide what animal is "clean" and what animal is just shit. 👍 This is just perfect, why not to teach people to act like if they were superior to everything (just in case it wouldn't be already like that)... The worse teacher ever.
@@YannR34 yeah its not like any animals carry diseases more likely than other or people had a hard time properly preparing meat safely from certain animals because of lack of technology while other animals were practically safe to eat raw. Definitely not the case that some animals are cleaner than others.
to be fair, the bible is very explicit that the plant life on top of mountains was untouched by the flood. you know, the whole olive branch thing. does make me wonder why nobody thought to seek higher ground to escape though.
not one part of the fairy tale makes any sense at all. it is hard to comprehend the mentality of someone who can actually believe in such children's stories from the bronze age. it would be like starting a religion around stories of Clifford the Big Red Dog, and retelling tales of the giant dog like they were true.
@@ClashBluelight apparently you are not a careful reader of this book: And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and *all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered*. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; *and the mountains were covered. *
It's a fairytale people. Not even closely possible to build such a boat/ark, with 2 species of every animal on earth at THAT time. This is right up there with, 'Humpty-Dumpty, Cat in the Hat, Charlotts Web, Winnie the Pooh, Harry Potter...' If there is a God, he's having one heck of a laugh at our expense. And there's 65 other books in the bible, equally entertaining. Is it any wonder all the 2nd coming of Jesus predictions never came true. They're nice stories, let's leave it at that.
Even after the flood they would have no food , because the flood just killed everything on the planet, that includes plant life. I guess they could do a lot of fishing. But just try feeding fish to a sheep.
Worse, all those carnivores are going to be eating your *herbivores* before they can breed up a sustainable population...or breed, period, for most of them.
They knew the flood was almost over because Noah sent out a dove and it brought him back an olive leaf. So there were plants when they came off the boat according to the Bible.
The aquatic animals deserve a bit more of a closer look, because it doesn't end well for them if we assume they don't need to come on to the ark because they can live in water. Assuming the flood is caused by rain, that means fresh water, which is bad news for basically every kind of aquatic animal out there. The fresh water will dilute the salt water of the oceans, meaning all marine animals will die. But this water will still be too salty for freshwater animals, so they'll die too. In short, if they didn't include aquatic animals on the ark, there would be none left alive after the flood ends.
In case this hasn't already been mentioned: You've misunderstood the 50/500 rule of thumb. 50 is the minimum possible bottleneck population, whilst 500 is the smallest viable population over multiple generations.
And 500 is probably extremely optimistic in the long term. We don't know the exact numbers but the cheetah is a good example that is doomed to die out because of a bottleneck that happened around ten thousand years ago. They're basically clones of one another even now.
@@kallmekrow822 Except that it kinda ends up doing the opposite: To get all present species diversity from a few thousand 'kinds' requires a fantastic degree of hyperevolution.
Dude, the is mutha' fuckn' Debunked. Don't you fucking dare to make up bullshit about them. They perfectly defined that term in their Debunking video. Why, if they made a mistake with that then that means they could make more mistakes. Their word is law. Now go forth and Believe the Science.
How exactly did he and his crew capture lions, tigers, leopards, and bears without being their next meal? Poisonous snakes, bugs and other animals without being bitten and killed? Where was the food supply kept and kept without rotting? Did they provide the veterinary care too? How did they manage to keep that many animals alive for nearly a year without losing any to illness being in such an enclosed space - surely there'd be sickness issues? Those animals being caged up for so long must have been in real bad shape when they got off the boat. What did the do with the waste? Were they able to sleep with all the noise and smells? Did the termites cause any damage they would have had to repair? I have so so so many questions about the logistics of this task.
God did it. It was a miracle. Where is your faith? If you don't believe it you are going to Hell. Stop thinking and just fall on your knees and beg forgiveness. Keep praying until you cry tears of blood.
It's a funny thought though, a man living 4000 years ago venturing into the depths of the Australian outback to Rangle up two inland taipan snakes and two western brown snakes, knowing that if any of them bit him he would be dead due to not having any antivenom.
There are so many obvious problems with this story that I as a 6 year old called BS on it and stopped going to Sunday School. It really is too stupid for words to attempt to defend any factual basis for this myth.
@@thecaricature It wasn’t presented as a metaphor; but historical fact. Many cultures have flood stories, and most early cultures assigned the cause of natural disasters to the Gods. It’s just comical, sad and dangerous how some people insist in a factual interpretation of the Bible and seek to enforce this perspective on the rest of us.
People sometimes forget about the birds. I've heard creationist argue that the birds would be spared because they can fly but most birds can not remain on the wing for months at a time. Chickens, turkeys, quails... never wouldve made it.
wait. didn't noah bring 7 pairs of every kind of bird onto the ark with him? it's even a major plot point that he has a dove with him. birds could also come to rest on the ark before leaving again.
well, I've heard creationist explain kangaroos and other unique wildlife making it all the way to Australia by, and I swear to you that this really happened, by volcanic explosion. This genius thought that all the animals would walk out of the Ark, onto a nearby volcano, that God would exploded it, that they would somehow survive that, the trip through the upper layers of atmosphere and cra- I mean land on Australia. yea... not the brightest bunch, to put it mildly.
I just want to say I appreciate how you answered the hypothetical question without simply filling 17 minutes trashing the biblical story. I’m firmly on the scientific side of my life but I still respect the care taken in that area. Fun video all around, glad I made it early for the premiere
If you only know how much I love debunked, you'd do more videos more often. Not to be insensitive to the cost and efforts it takes to make such a master of a channel, but my own way of saying I appreciate you guys so much, from Stu... Who saves us from being STUpid about many things we had taken to be facts, and down to those behind the camera and who makes the editing and sound and motion graphics. Love you guys so much... With all my heart
@@simeyonwest1092 ya easily lol almost all of the bible is utter easily proven nonsense. If the bible is nonsense then the god of it must be by simple logic. If god exist it would be as simple as showing himself to prove it and end all the violence but he doesnt because he isnt there
@@anubisfox5765 Hey yo! Did you know that Jesus fed thousands of people with a few bread and fish without exceeding ten? Did you also know that God save His child using a Crow? Do you even know what that means?
@@johngaccione5633 Just watched a real scientist go through this and debunk everything this guy said. “Science CONFIRMS Noah’s Ark and the Flood”. Starts at minute 18.
If that's the case then why not just protect them without the ship? Why make Noah go through the insanely tedious task of building a freaking ship on his own and then make him become a zookeeper for months.. honestly I don't see how it's even possible for one man to build a ship own his own.. oh but then I guess god could have given him some superhuman powers.. so stupid lol.. I'm always amazed at the extent religious people would ignore logic for the sake of religion.. it's just too obvious
Even if the rain was fresh water, the sudden change in salinity will kill almost everything aquatic. So Noah has to bring them on board along with f*cking huge tanks of water to live in.
If the water was enough to cover "even the tallest mountains", that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing. That also means the oceanic pressure and salinity would change dramatically, which would kill all sea animals. Nothing makes sense.
Regardless of how fresh the rainwater is, if the earth was covered in it, the oceans' and seas' salty water would mix with all the water covering land, making the final mix too salty for freshwater aquatic creatures, and too diluted for saltwater life. In short, every fish would die.
@@lucalinadreemur9448 There are a lot of life forms which can survive a wide range of salinity. Though combined with the massive changes in currents and all we are still facing a 95%+ extinction event.
@@lynxcato3327 "that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing." Ah, no. Firstly, the rising water levels would push the atmosphere up, and as the huge amount of water being dumped into the oceans (from, you know, god's magic tap) would result in a massive release of energy, that would make the waters boil, apparently, so being too hot, and being surrounded by cooked fish and whales would be more the order of the day.
@@EMJ4438how the hell would these ancient people know it was a global flood? Did they look up satellite images of the whole earth, they may have witnessed local floods, so have I on a few occasions.
@@EMJ4438 they don’t have a record about one global flood. They have records of local floods, and local flooding is neither uncommon nor supernatural in origin. As for a massive *global* flood that wiped out all civilizations, there is zero archeological evidence.
As an Australian I can debunk the whole Noah story with one idea. A bunch of dudes travelling around to the other side of the world to collect all of our Spiders and Snakes and sticking them on a boat. And kept them alive, without getting bitten & dying themselves, long enough to put them all back afterwards. And getting all of the kangaroos and other marsupials back and not letting any Hoofed animal in here. Biggest pile of crap is the whole Noah myth. But if a middle eastern dude can collect 17 different species of Funnel Web Spider and a few Taipans, and live to gather everything else, well I’d be very impressed.
As an Australian, I’m surprised that the Aborigines (estimated to have occupied Australia for at least over 50,000 years) weren’t aware that they weren’t supposed to be around after the world wide flood about 6,000 years ago.
The story of Noah's ark was a historical event Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible
@@thecaricature sure, if you’re talking about the epic of Gilgamesh but in this case we’re talking about a 600 year old man named Noah who built a wooden boat.. you’re talking about a story that was written in a time where people most likely wasn’t aware that there was a whole world outside their bubble
@@thecaricature “The "local bubble" for the people who wrote the bible was half the planet.” You mean, half the disk covered by a dome ? No I don’t think that they were cavemen at all, please show me where I even suggested that they were. They were just a bunch of goat herders who borrowed stories from other civilisations within their reach as you have clearly stated with the Noah story.
Archimedes hasn't been born yet, thus the physic of water is still free for all for Noah. He can technically build the arc using rocks and it will float because buoyancy is still a couple hundred years away in the future.
The sad thing about all of this is that even as a small child the Ark story never made any sense to me and seemed completely impossible, but yet there are grown adults that wholeheartedly believe it! But I guess when one can just accept "God made it work" as an explanation for anything and everything it makes swallowing this BS easy.
@@maddawg_ plates tectonics compress land masses causing land that was once submerged in the distant past to rise above the water and eventually buckle in areas of weakness allowing them to be pushed further upwards and form into the various mountain ranges we see today leaving the fossils formed from ancient sea life deposited in their rock layers. This is basic middle school stuff. I really hope you don't actually think this is somehow a difficult question to answer.
So now what? you gonna believe someone saying things about tectonic plates or you're gonna stick with lardass saying "god made it works". Don't you hear youself? time to wake up from you wild dream and start facing reality
It is even more sad that children can intuit the truth of the story of Noah and the Ark while many adults are blinded by the strictly materialist/reductionist worldview that is popularized today. If we are to understand ourselves and where we are headed as individuals and as a civilization, then we should begin to listen to what Noah has to say. I highly recommend checking out Jonathan Pageau and his Symbolic World channel for more insight into the understanding of these stories and how they lay out the fundamental principles of reality and consciousness.
Well if you actually aren’t so ignorant and you look the arc has been found and discovered in turkey at the arat mountains. It is 100% real. Say what you want you’re a nonbeliever. I was too.. Ground penetrating radar has confirmed. Core samples drilled have confirmed. The timeline the location. Say what you want but Noah’s ark was 100% real
Speaking as someone who occasionally flies with a dog who must remain inside a duffel under the seat for the duration of the flight, it would have been impossible to pack that many animals into an ark before the invention of Trazidone.
@@jeffthomson4223 Everywhere. The flood was a supernatural event and God put the animals on the ark. He didn’t need any scientists input on how it needed to be done.
@@funkymonk1882 I think we can correct that to 'nowhere'. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about making sure the animals were small/young. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about provisions of food or water. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about putting the animals into hibernation. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about gathering or returning animals from all over the Earth. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about caring for the animals in the devastated post-flood world. Nowhere in the Bible does it even talk about trying to preserve the plants that would also have been destroyed by the flood. Noah's Ark is a half-ar$3d story, full of problems, and you're fabricating solutions out of your own ar$3 to try and fill those gaps. Nothing supports you here- not science, nor the Bible.
And when the waters had receded, Noah said to the animals "Go forth and multiply". Then two snakes came up to Noah and said: "But Noah, we can't, we're adders". So Noah took his axe, and fell a tree, and he built them a log table. 🤣
If Noah was going to collect all the animals he would have to have traveled over 8,000 miles on foot to secure and transport animals from several continents. Across desserts, oceans, frozen artic and mountains and desserts. At 600 years old. Also he had to find out what animals were male and female. Flies, ants, ticks, snakes etc.
So many facets of ridiculous to this story. It practically hurts my brain--gives me a HEADACHE--to consider that people (A) believe this themselves and (B) expect ME to believe it and (C) they get indignant and snarky when they find that I DON'T! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
more fun biblical facts is Noah was the first recorded person in history to circumnavigate the globe in a lengthy quest to capture all living life from every corner of existence. To do this he would have need another boat or boats, he would also have had to navigate some of the harshest terrains on the planet with out a map, such as rainforests, deserts, mountains and at least the South pole because that is also a landmass and wont float like the North pole. Once he had collected these animals he would then have to safely transport them to where he built his ark or arks to safely transport them again when the flood happened. Using math again we could work out how much the sea levels rose to cover all land masses, and then all we need to figure out is where all that water went again to restore landmasses. Noah was clearly well ahead of his time and well educated in everything required to cut trees down, to carpentry, to being a vet or doctor for every species on the planet, an accomplished sailor and navigator, he would have been able to write down his memoires or ships log, and he would have been able to speak dozens of languages because frankly where else could they have come from. He would have been the first human in history to procreate and produce humans of every race and culture, unless he did indeed save more than just his own family. That would mean convincing several humans to join his quest, assist in building ships and rounding up animals, as much as mucking them out and keeping them from eating one another. All while making sure diseases did not kill them all off with no medicines or vaccines
But no. Before the flood the land was much flatter. During it, the tectonic plates moved around and pushed mountains up and other parts sank down forming the oceans. They had much more land than we have now.
@@slevinchannel7589 No, he didn't. Clearly not possible. The BIble refers to numerous historical events that even atheists agree happened, so quit spouting such nonsense.
There were 8 people on the ark. Who would feed the animals and shovel their caca over the side on multiple ships? Noah was 500 years old. So he probably wasn't much help.
Better question-isn’t drowning and saving via boat rather inefficient for a god? Isn’t creating people to be executed in any way inefficient for a god?
God is not about efficiency he is about free will. He gave us the ability to act our own but also gave laws as well. When mankind chose not to follow the laws he flooded the earth
Random thought: if creationists tried to claim that it would be possible to keep everything on board because there's not as many species or something back then as there are today, they'd just simply be straight up admitting that evolution is a thing, which directly conflicts with the rest of their beliefs.
Many of them now espouse belief in "micro" evolution, where species can adapt to their environment (since we can easily demonstrate this) but they claim macro evolution is still impossible. Then we laugh at the insane rate of "micro" evolution that would be necessary to see the current level of diversity on the planet after just 5000 yrs from a global flood as they desperately attempt to change the subject or fabricate more bs
@@chadingram6390 I understand what you're coming from but don't we all adapt on a daily basis? I am a Christian and I don't believe that Evolution is real, however, I do know for a fact that ALL living beings adapt slightly to their respective environments. [Evolution is basically the physical change to a body of a living thing] so if Evolution is true and it's still trying to find the best species, why aren't us as humans evolving adapting physically to the enviornments.
@@StyanaxPrime because we’ve come up with enough technology(I’m gonna use the term technology loosely) to compensate for the needs of the environment so we’re not in an environment for long enough to adapt very noticeably. However we still do adapt if you notice closely. Almost anybody that lives in a warmer climate will end up being more lively in warm environments than cold ones
@@StyanaxPrime Every living thing is a transition between what came before and what might come after - the changes might be tiny and often invisible, but they do happen. At some point in the past in Europe, a mutation occurred that meant that a gene didn’t turn off as infants finished with digesting their mother’s milk. This was an invisible change but as this spread, it meant that more and more people could continue to digest the sugars in milk past their infancy, giving them an advantage. Take a look at dogs - dogs as we see them exist because of us and some can’t even give birth naturally because their heads are too large. We don’t notice much change in us because we only see a few generations at any one time - throw in hundred of millions of years of time, and you will see much bigger changes in us. Evolution is real and demonstrably so, even if you don’t believe in it.
@@StyanaxPrime It’s not physical changes to a body within its life time, it’s slight mutations and gene mixing from generation to generation, with some mutations not even having any effect, although some may only come into play many generations down the line. Evolution can only work with what it has. Take the nerve that goes to the larynx- it leaves the brains, goes down the neck, into the chest, loops under the aorta, back up the neck and finally to the larynx. Now spare a thought for the poor giraffe where the same thing happens, with this nerve being up to 16 foot long - a direct route would only be a few inches. No creator or designer would do this, and certainly wouldn’t keep making the same mistake. So why is it like that? Evolution can only work with what it has - at some point in our very distant past, when the creatures that would become mammals were likely swimming around as a very early fish, this nerve was likely a straight path to a gill slit. You only need to look at very early embryos to see how similar we all start in the womb or egg.
Some people says they were put to sleep so I'm guessing hibernation. But i that also make me wonder how long does hybernastion can take u still with small ration
@@randomperson4198 and there are a lot of animals that don't hibernate because their bodies weren't evolved to do so in the first place. So that would also factor in to how long can those animals stay alive after this pseudo hibernation that was forced upon them. The more I think about this the more questions I think of.
@@randomperson4198 I suppose, a hypothetical god could just do it indefinitely where it might have no harmful affects on the animal, because they are god. But this is pure speculation. Do you think the animal would be conscious in this state like a coma patient? Like, they are unable to move but are able to hear and feel everything around them.
@Mike Seork Right but in bible cannon god can create and do anything. If he can create matter from nothing and design every single animal in existence. This is all an easy fix. You're right though, this would make him a trickster.
@Mike Seork Hmmm, so then what do you attribute the perfect horizontal layers of the grand canyon to? Or the buried vertical trees? Or the oceanic fossils in high elevations? Oh, and around 2019, science stated that humans all came from a pair of ancestors. Doesn't that seem pretty close to Adam/Eve or Noah's Family?
@@bogusphone8000 idk the geological history of the great canion but they were obviously floods before and most importantly the continents have moved in the last millions of years, but it happened before any human was born and this did not happened in one single cataclysmic event but in millions of year of tectonic activity. Science never state anything, some researcher make theory that are validated or not by further finds or other researchers. And for this one we can't know exaclty how humans have evolved into what they are now we miss some crucial information. All we can say is that it worked like for every species on earth, genetic mutations over millions if not billions of years
@@bogusphone8000 The oceanic fossils was the resulting of shifting tectonic plates (which are how mountains are made), the Grand Canyon is sedimentary rock, which has layers, and as for the buried trees, prehistory is filled with floods, just not a global flood. A global flood did happen at one point in time, but it was long before trees came into existence.
Even if one melts all the water in Greenland and the Antarctic, that only raises sea levels to 126th the height of Everest (although there are 3 mountains that could be considered the tallest on Earth). Was the water fresh? That would have killed off most marine life. Or was the water saline? That would have killed off most fresh water species. Even that point is irrelevant, as the amount of water needed, being dumped that quickly, would result in a tremendous release of energy, enough to boil seas, so anything that lived near the surface, and/or needed to breath air (all the whale species, orcas, dolphins, porpoises, turtles, etc) would also have to be accommodated on the Ark.
I see that Opponens Periculo removed his post, however, it ended with: "There's really not one group of people or civilisation today that do not have ancient stories, written down or told for generations, about "the great flood"." I would like to point out that no ancient civilisations could have stories about the biblical Great Flood, as they would all have been wiped out by it, with the exception of 8 people. Also, people had to live near rivers, or some sort of fresh water, until they invented decent ways of transporting fresh water, so of course they would have flood stories.
@@wildsideofthings7733 how is it god destroyed the earth because man ate from tree of knowledge ..do u think we stayed in caves or began manipulating nature hence the flood ? do u think that was done with copper chizzles and rocks ???? ..the bible explains we wasnt cave men in those days but an advanced civilization
@@wildsideofthings7733 "I prefer going by what the science says." Bruv then wtf why were you on about Noah's Arc something that was said by religious text
@@trollinape2697 Pointing out faults in a text doesn't mean you believe the premise. It's would not be an argument reply just to state " arc isn't real bruv". It's a better narrative is to pick it apart. Piece by piece.
I want to know where all the water went after this, and where it came from in the first place. If all ice on earth melted right now, the ocean would only rise about 70M. Not anywhere near as high as in the story. So where did the water come from? Where did it all go afterwards?
@robertmethia7080 you're aware that me questioning where all this water came from or went to was my way of saying that I don't believe the story, correct? We seem to be in agreement, and you still tried to insult me by saying I must still believe in Santa. How are you gonna misinterpret what I said and insult me while doing it.
@thecaricature I'm aware. We can ask that question too. Naturally, we have to assume that before this flood, all that water was also underground already, otherwise the land masses wouldn't have been the same. So if the water is already underground, and you can correct if I'm wrong, but the flood was caused from rain? How would the water thats all underground, rise up, out of the ground? Assuming physics were the same at this time period of course, the water would have to all rise out of the ground at once for this flood, then turn into rain, and then all that water went underground again, leaving the same amount of water above ground as was there originally. Most of this trapped water is in rock as well. So we need to figure out how it got out of this rock, then back into it. It's a very tough thing to explain unless you'd wanna assume physics broke for this. This is one thing about the story I can't really understand, there's more.
@thecaricature you could be right, i don't think it's anything that can be disproven necessarily, at least now. I wouldn't call it likely at all. I find it much more likely that it's extremely exaggerated. Floods happen. Not to that extent. If it did, everyone would have died. You can't fit every species on the planet on a boat. There are species still being discovered. How did other humans survive, how did animals, especially animals that are separated by bodies of water or are endemic to a certain place fins and get to the ark. Then we gotta figure out how 2 of every species would populate their species again. Inbreeding would be extremely high, leading to a lack of genetic diversity. Minimum viable population is different for each species, but typically varies from a few hundred to a few thousand individuals. 2 individuals just isn't enough to keep the VAST majority of species from going extinct. I can't prove this didn't happen. I don't claim to know what happened. But it seems extremely unlikely for alot of reasons. Where the water came from and went to, how animals got to the ark, how they knew to get to the ark, how others survived, how 2 each species was enough to populate the whole species again when that's very unlikely to happen, then things like plants would have died from being underwater and drowning along with not getting proper sunlight and stuff like that. It's not a story I think makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there was floods that was devastating to local areas. But the story as it is is likely exaggerated alot. I respect that you're not trying to talk down on me for having a different opinion on this too. Alot of people get aggressive rather than try to have a normal conversation.
I want to start this by saying I am not choosing sides on the Noah's Ark theory, I am not religious, I just consider myself a skeptic and scientist, who also has a passion for history, and I can emphatically say this conversation is a perfect example of why we need to put the "H" back in "STEM." It's VERY dangerous to go into this conversation with modern standards. This video constantly shifts between what is needed on Noah's Ark and what a modern Ark would need, and I believe these blurred lines act as a strawman argument of sorts. Again, I'm not religious, but I do know when looking at ANY historical text (regardless to your religious beliefs) you must look at it through a historical lens, not a modern one. That never happens with this debate. I find it ironic that the video acknowledged that "unknown species" cannot make it onto the boat. We must ask ourselves how many species did Noah specifically know of, not how many do we know. Second, when the Bible states the world has flooded we have to acknowledge the perception of just a tiny group of people that recorded the event, not the literal interpretation. History is not what happened, it is what people say happened. How could Noah possibly know if all corners of the world have flooded. Even being at sea for 150 days is not enough time to check the entire planet. When you reduce these parameters to just the scale and scope of one man's knowledge it's not farfetched to believe a man put every creature he knew of onto a ship and toughed out a particularly large flood for his immediate surroundings. We no longer need to explain how Siberian Tigers or African Elephants survived if Siberia or Africa was never underwater, and Noah never knew they existed. It's these fundamental misconceptions that science (or bad scientists) just refuse to acknowledge, and with such poorly defined parameters, I just don't see how you can call that good science or properly debunked. It is a logical fallacy to build such an extreme example, debunk it, then say it could never happen when there are plenty of lesser possible explanations that could still exist. Taking ancient script entirely too literal is not the key to debunking it. Obviously, things couldn't have occurred as it was explained (or at least in its most strict perception) but it didn't have to in order to be written the way it was. Heck, it doesn't even need to be considered a known lie, or tall tale. You just need to understand the true limits to a single individual's perception. I do not think Noah could have known every species that could have existed, I don't think he could have known the entire world flooded, and I think this misconception on his part could have been poorly translated over thousands of years. There are possible answers that exist between both extremes, (i.e. it happened exactly as the Bible explained or it couldn't have happened exactly how it was explained) and science isn't doing its job by stopping at, "He couldn't fit literally every known species we know of on his boat therefor the whole story is debunked." The most likely explanation I see is that something could have happened just on a much less grander scale that is discussed.
I understand you are taking it non religiously, But the text is meaningless if not taken literally, as the faith of those that propagate it depends on it being literal, hence y your argument is not completely adequate.
The problem is cherry-picking what you can take literally and not literally If you can't take this story literally, then how/why would you take other biblical stories literally? Isn't the whole concept of religion blind faith- to believe without seeing?
@Franklin Roe I did. And I agree that you can't take Noah's word literally. For example, MAYBE he wasn't aware of other countries' existence during those times. So "whole world" probably meant only his city The problem is this: Everytime science disproves religious stories, people will just resort to saying "oh maybe it isn't literal. Maybe it's just a metaphor" BUT until then, we're supposed to believe what the bible says because it's "God's word". There will always be reasons/excuses for the religious to justify their beliefs lol that's what I find problematic. It's automatically considered real/literal if it isn't disproven by science yet
Not to mention the following: -It was built by 7 untrained peasants -They had no idea how many animals were on earth -They had no way to get to every end of the earth to locate all these animals -They wouldn’t be able to catch/tame the animals in order to get them on the ark -You need different climates for all these different animals, I don’t think they had the technology for climate regulation -Do you think 14 Lions are going to sleep for 150 days instead of feasting on all the prey you gathered for them -What about amphibians? Frogs live on land but they’ll need to give birth to tadpoles in water, does that mean they’ll have to go overboard? -Think about all the breeding that would go on in 150 days, there would be hundreds of mice and rats running around -Disease. They’re gonna die. Disease is gonna run rampant.
There's no reason why Noah wouldn't have many people working on the Ark. What technology is necessary to house different animals? Why would they let the lions roam freely? Amphibians can hibernate. What's wrong with a lot of rats and mice, they could be food for other animals. And it's only 150 days.
The worst It would face is the "rainfall". To cover the Earth to a depth just above Everest in 40 days, rain would have to fall at a rate around 15 times the average bath tap flow rate on every single point of the Earths surface.
Doesn't really matter. An Omnipotent God like in the story could do that with ease. If you're trying to disprove something then you've gotta do better than that.
@@Wifgargfhaurh Right ... he's so omnipotent that he allows the devil to hang out and mess with everyone ... FOR SOME REASON ... instead of just blinking him out of existence - not to mention all the diseases and natural disasters that kill thousands of his children every year. I don't know why Christians play the Omnipotent/Omniscient card; it opens a Pandora's box of contradictions and absolutely ludicrous claims.
Noah: How do I design and build this thing? God: I will help you Noah: How do I collect and berth all the animals? God: I will help you Noah: BTW, where are you getting all the water? God: I will help you
TODAY, there's worry over the Greenland Ice melting and desalinating the water enough that the gulf stream water won't sink and return south , I think that is a bit silly but consider a much smaller globe, smaller seas and no big oceans . With Twice as thick atmosphere there's twice the O2 and what now is considered super saturation possible up to 8000 feet or so, then you have cosmic ray effects on inner earths' primary water (fountains of the deep) SO Adam's near perfect hypobaric garden paradice first gets blocked by 'flaming swords' (lava?) Due to a cosmic ray incident as a roge Red dwarf magneto star swings by gets deflected into a shallow long elipse, men still live long long lives protected from most cosmic rays but not all the sling shot Nibru swings back in from the north, or a second one as our solar system merges in to the plain of the milky way a storm of impacts causes a explosive decompression, flash freezes millions of animals in the "Arctic" moves the Earths pole, expance of the pacific is accelerated and slows down about 2500 years ago. The Year and Day gets closer to 365 and 13 months as the moon a captured moon rises out to a 28day orbit By Julius and Agustus, the Romans settle to nearly todays calendar year. See my post with illustrations on : .facebook. com /tvlOtechnoman
@earlysda I see. But I don't understand how a global flood wouldn't extrude salt from already existing deposits inland and underground, adding to its overall salinity and then being somewhat uniformly distributed planet wide? Wouldn't there be a somewhat uniform layer of salt left behind, sort of like the iridium layer that we could dig into and find pretty much anywhere on earth after such a flood?
And given that they were afloat for 150 days meaning everything else would have been under water, there would have been absolutely no food for Noah and his family or for any of the animals because everything, including all vegetation, would be dead and would take some time to regrow as all the land would be nothing but mud for quite a time. So, I guess they also had at least one seed from every type of vegetation in the world in order to restart all plant life too. Now think about how much food would have had to be on that arc to keep all life alive until new food could grow. Noah and his family couldn't have built an arc big enough and gather that much food if they had 300 years to do it. Also, they would have been quite busy with animal latrine duty for near half a year. Yeah, I'd say this arc story is pretty well debunked.
@@thecaricature You think every animal would be able to survive on fish? And how would they fish since there was only one window at the top and no other openings anywhere on that ark? What would they use as bait? Think man, think.
@@thecaricature Again dude, where would they fish from since the only opening was one little window on the top and what would they use for bait? For grain, they would need at least 300,000 pounds for just the 2 elephants alone for a year. Also, how did 8 people keep up with feeding these animals and cleaning up after them all every day? They would be peeing and pooping every day in an enclosed ark so where did all the animal waste go for at least 150 days afloat? Think man, if you're capable of it.
There were sewage systems in the ark that’s what the window was for… But if you do t believe in Noah’s ark Look I’m not asking any of you good people to believe in the word of God but I just ask one thing from all of you, Ik you don’t want to do it I know you don’t want to believe it… but please read Revelation 13: 16-17… and then if you will, go ahead and look into the progression of this prophecy… especially in Sweden… that’s all I ask…
@@angryrabbit6637 Really? A sewage system leading "up" to the one window in the whole ark? That window would be doing nothing day and night besides dumping animal waste right back onto the outside of the ark. No, there was no sewage system on that ark because there was no ark.
@zee evolution isn't nearly fast enough to create the huge variety in animals we see today. Also, a very important part of evolution is genetic variation, and only a male and female of a species is not nearly enough genetic variation and inbreeding would most definitely be a problem. Inbreeding is a huge problem with pure bread dogs today.
@zee how did you know the flood happened? Did you watch the world get filled with water? There are litteral mountains of evidence behind evolution, we have a much greater understanding of evolution than we have of gravity. We have the fossil records, genetics, litteral observed evolution in insects and much more. Evolution of species is like the evolution of a language, you always speak the same language as your parents and grandparents etc. but over time the language slowely changes, eventually becoming a different language entirely, the same goes for evolution of species.
@zee the universe doesn't have to begin from a magical something, that is a huge assumption on your part. Science doesn't have an explanation for the beginning of the universe, they just admit that they do not (yet) know, the fact that we don't know doesn't mean you can just insert your god as an explanation, that is just like the people of the past attributing lightning to a god because they didn't know where it came from. The multiverse hypothesis is not a scientific theory, it is simply one of the many hypothesis there are out there. There is a huge difference between a hypothesis and a theory in science. Something is only considered a theory in science if it is demonstratably true, like evolution, the multiverse will always remain an hypothesis because, just like god, it is impossible to prove or disprove.
@zee evolution does not say anything about the creation of life, the fact that you think it does already tells me how little you actually know of the theory of evolution. You are referring to abio genesis (self replicating cells forming from non living matter), which is currently the most plausible hypothesis for the emergence of life, that life might have come from an asteroid is another, much less plausible, hypothesis. But none of these things have anything to do with evolution. Evolution is just about life diversifying over time, there is no distinction between macro and micro evolution, it is the exact same thing, just viewed at different timescales. Evolution is one of best understood scientific concepts and has been tested countless times, has mountains of evidence and has been observed, the fact that you do not consider it science is preposterous. You are however correct that we do not currently have the means to know how the universe came into being, but that doesn't mean you can just say "god did it" and call it a day. We simply don't know, nothing more, nothing less. The flying spaghetti monster is just as plausible for the creation of the universe as the god of the bible, or gaia or whatever god you feel like inserting into that gap. All of these explanations are just cheap attempts of explaining our existence, maybe one day science will be able to give us a definitive answer on the start of the universe, just like science gave us a definitive answer on so many aspects of life and the universe.
The ark wouldn't of been seaworthy even in the calmest of water. The middle of the ship would be more buoyant then the two ends. This means that the middle of the ship would be pushed up causing structural failure. Even if you were to grant the ridiculously low numbers of pairs of 'kinds' that some creationists claim. You still wouldn't have enough space for them and their food and that's without even getting into how much fresh water they would need.
Could it be that God had some part to play in the properties of the Ark? If god if omnipotent, wouldn't be also be able to manipulate the inside of the ark, since he's god? I believe the bible works, and every impossible thing in it works because God made it work?
@@notforgetful4926 If he can make something that can't float, float, why not just make a mountain where only the saved humans and animal can survive until the flood goes?
@@ReachForTheSky Because he would be busy planning for Jesus's arrival to actually care that much? Why would he create a 3rd heaven (Heaven, Eden, and this mountain you speak of?"
Never mind different builders having different interpretations of what a cubit is, they can’t even keep it consistent on their own vessels. The first ark’s measurements are all over the shop. For length a cubit equals 450mm, for height it’s 600mm, and width it’s 760mm. The second one is closer to consistent but still the length of a cubit varies slightly (length: 516mm/height: 500mm/width 520mm).
dude, we know anatomy and we have lots of anatomy studies, the only thing we can put in the wrong order is really minor things, like a spike or a osteoderm
"How many animals had to fit on the ark?" "Well technically the phrase 'kind' might mean that they only needed pairs of a family of animals not necessarily every species, then the species can propagate back out of those" "so you're saying that the species were able to evolve from their families to repopulate themselves?" "...wait shit"
No, there would still be too many animals aboard. There would only 4000 years for these kinds to evolve to all modern species, we can track back divergence through genetics, if we extrapolate back 4,000 years, most animals are near exactly the same as they already are, the numbers would remain about the same. In reality, species last for about 2 million years, some reaching up to 6 million years, such as some species in the Hyenadon genus. 4,000 years is simply to little of time for evolution to radically diversify these kinds, as the genetics bare out.
Their answer to that is it wasn't evolution but "adaptation". You can get them to agree with the process of evolution just as long as you don't use the e-word.
Wouldn't want to be the one who has to scrub all the animal droppings away on Noah's ark. Would the seven or so people that the crew consisted of even be able to ever get rid of all the dung over the whole 150 day long journey?
What about meat for lions,tigers, wolves, bears etc.? They would eat all the sheep and other creatures upon landfall and exiting the ark so trip would be pretty pointless. And the crew would die from all the methane...death by animal farts!!!
Really, extreme narcissistic speculative conjecture. Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus can command them. Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus could with a thought sustain them. Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus could induce a hibernational slumber. “Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, ** “And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.”(Genesis 6:20,21 KJV)
“A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.”(Genesis 6:16 KJV) There goes your methane theory out the literal window. Cubit = 20.4 inches.
Correct, the interpretation that it was global with an ark that size has been debunked. The Mesopotamian flood in 2900 BCE is the likely historical kernel.
Tablets of the type used in Babylonian schools (where some ancient Hebrews were known to have studied) give the dimensions of the Ark, it was a 35 ton coracle. These tablets date from about a thousand years before the biblical nonsense was written. This may have been a huge, but still local flood due to flood melt after the last ice age.
@@jimspace3000 That sounds interesting. Of course it couldn't have been over the whole Earth for a number of reasons. There's also the Epic of Gilgamesh, which I bet has been mentioned on this comments page a few times.
@@jimspace3000 but wouldn’t that sort of ruin the whole idea of what Noah’s ark was for. It was to wipe out humanity because they were wicked but if it was only a little local flood then people from all around the world wouldn’t have even known
As much as I love these scientific breakdowns, at the end of the day if God actually exists, he literally could just solve every problem mentioned with his powers.
The whole thing is a folk memory of the relatively rapid melting away of the glaciers at the end of the Great Ice Age...sea levels rose 300 feet or more...rivers would have been enormous...for people living in these regions, life became an adventure...
300 feet, yeah maybe. But not enough to cover the tops of all mountains as per the book. Speaking of which how would anyone know all the mountains were covered without first knowing all their heights and knowing the depth of the flood?
@@AlDunbar I am not saying the book is correct, only that among many peoples around the world, who experienced a rise in water level such as followed the end of the Great Ice Age, there is your kernel of truth to the myth of a global flood...people embellished.
@@julianmarsh1378 I didn't think you believed the Noah story, but were just giving a possible reason that various ancient cultures developed a flood story. You may indeed be correct. I was just pointing out a difference between the Noah story and the apparent fact of a 300+ foot increase in sea level should anyone take away the idea that that event was Noah's flood.
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well scientifically it would be impossible. but god can makes miracle. god can just make a portal to another dimension on the ark's gate, so that when the animals goes inside, they actually goes to bigger place. as for the food, when jesus on earth, he fed 5000+ people with just 2 piece of bread and 3 fishes.
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@@Beltesha does that mean god can make it so 1 + 1 = 4? If he can defy science with miracles, can he defy math as well?
The biggest problem with this Noah's Ark video is that it fails to address the arguments of the scientists who have shown that it can work. In particular, there is the peer-reviewed paper "Safety investigation of Noah's Ark in a seaway", and the comprehensive book "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study".
If you fail to address the best arguments for the ark, you're just being intellectually lazy.
The science and numbers in this video are bull crap 💩.
Noah: Loads two of every animal onto a wooden ship
The termites: *Now it's time to get funky*
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Or wood boring worms.
@@nickl5658 woodpeckers finna go sick
Also, beavers can't swim indefinitely.
I don't think two termites are going to do much. Then again, good luck finding just two.
Noah: *Loads 2 of each animal*
Poison dart frogs: It's time to start the massacre
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Then the elephant sat down and crisis was averted, until someone asked if the Woodpeckers had been seen recently?
@@jujuUK68 The only animal that really enjoyed the cruise was the dung beetle.
Look at the Pacific Garbage Patch - 1.6 million square kilometers of 50-100 years of human garbage floating in the middle of the Pacific today.
In a Great Flood, hundreds of years of drift wood and vegetal matter on the bottom of the Earths Virgin forests would all float.
The natural water currents would bring all the floating matter together.
Just like today’s Pacific Garbage Patch which is half the size of India or Staten Island.
More than enough room to support entire ecosystems of large land dwelling animals.
And the animals themselves would instinctually find the dry land as the Earth flooded up.
They’d all start climbing mountains and floating matter would clump around the mountains
If the Great Flood happened, this is exactly what would happen.
And they loaded the sea animals when the ark was afloat...
Duh, of course they were kept in pokéballs!
😆 very resourceful
Wait can you put animals in Pokeballs?
Yeah,now everything make sense 🤣🤣
@@Morningstar_37 first u have to fight it
Still not enough space. Even for pokeballs XD
According to the Bible, the ark only had one window. This means that methane from the animal waste would quickly build up inside the ark. Since torches and candles would have been the only possible light sources known in biblical times, the methane would quickly find an ignition source and cause a massive explosion.
And not to forget, that because it had only one window, you would literally get CO poisoned by hours :D
@acmenipponair that is absolutely true. Today, I learned that Ken Ham had to install a massive HVAC system at his laughable ark park just so people wouldn't die from carbon dioxide poisoning. He went to great lengths to hide this fact, but the truth couldn't help but come out. It always does.
And according to the myth, God sealed the Ark once all were aboard, that would have included the single window. Everyone would have died of asphyxiation before the rain even started falling.
Mmmm. Barbeque. 😋
A window is not the only means of ventilation.
“Have a pint and wait for this to blow over” - love the Shaun of the Dead reference!
🤣🤣🤣
Great movie
I’ve seen that movie at least 8 times and I didn’t catch that 😂 I’m ashamed
See you at the Winchester
Big Al says dogs can't look up.
The shit and piss would alone sink the damn ship lmao.
O H .
Sinking would be secondary to everyone being asphyxiated due to methane from all the "shit and piss". it's an absurd story.
Shit and piss serving
@@mender722 As well as the ammonia.
And the volume of the needed ark did not count for the corridors for the 8 guys serving those millions of animals and channels for shit and piss.
Let alone going back and forth the other boats to get food.
Perhaps kenny in kentucky have figured it out.
...and, as one unicorn said to the other - "Damn..we missed it... oh well, there will be another boat" - the dinosaurs agreed with the unicorn and they waited together.
😩😩😩
LOL, as if the animals boarded willingly. I'm not sure that Noah would even know about animals not native to his part of the world, or where he could go looking for some.
if there was a god noahs ark would be possible
Oh good... I'll let the unicorns know, they will be pleased.
@@paulrichards6894 the opposite seems likely too.
But if god could swing this to rid the earth of all evil people, he could just as easily take them all out individually. Of course we all agree that it didn't work as there have clearly been many evil people since then.
You forgot the service paths between the animal cages. If you want to feed them you need access to every cage and that is considerable amount of empty space.
yup, and a thousand other things stored like electric toothbrushes, game consoles, external hard drives, would of been easy navigating from the Middle East, paddling by hand, to every continent dropping native species with instructions to paddle in place until the water drained (to where?) from the entire surface.And back exactly where he started! Amazing! And if you don't believe it just read the bible, he admits to MASS murder, but he loves us.
Which he mentioned they had plenty of room for...
Not to mention that you need to be able to load the animals, which contributes considerably to how big that needs to be.
the Ark had no skylights or vents for airflow.
How about animal poop management?
@@Defender78well, magic, of course
Noah having an entire fleet of ships sounds cooler than having one ark.
and more logical
@@curious5887 Admiral Noah
@@thesupersonicstig ADMIRAL! Satan sent FUCKIN’ DEMON PIRATES
@@hexaltheninjawow9531 Finally, a fuckin’ challenge…
Well what if he had a fleet of arks?
And Noah said to the kangaroos, “Stop f-ing hopping around or I’ll drop you off in Australia with all the snakes, spiders, crocodiles, and dinosaur birds”.
well the earth is flooded soooo.
lmaoo
@@peacefullolvitp7893 Australia is upside down it wasn't affected by the flood
Thanks. That explains a lot!😂😂
And so it came to pass...
From the Big Bang Theory:
Sheldon: "What did they feed the lions mom?"
Sheldon's Mom: "The bodies of drowned sinners."
We don't even need a boat this way! Just bring enough ropes and we got ourselves the biggest raft made of corpses
@@ancapeancape9829 sounds like a great idea ngl
@@ancapeancape9829 thats so fucked up but i cant help laughing at it XD
At least it could work for the first couple of weeks.
Lions didnt eat meat at the time according to the bible
Here's another problem: Many animals require a specialized environment, such as the huge tropical trees, swamps, deep caves, extremely hot or cold places, and so on. They often require specialized diets. How did Noah procure all the foods that they needed?
Moreover, after the Great Flood, all plant life on the former land surface of Earth would be obliterated forever. The soil would be totally saturated with salt from the sea water, so it would be impossible to grow anything there.
Noah would have to gather up not just all the animals, but the plants that many of them require to live. Can you imagine him transplanting giant sequoia trees aboard the Ark?
The great flood is the rainy season of five months and is found in Rev. 9.5.
Oh please tell em you are joking, the implicaations of your IQ if not are severely bad. You want to claim that a supernatural event has to have only natural events? That is just absurd, and now I see why it tends to be the people who do not think for themselves and who do not look and evidence, and who do not do reaserch are always the atheist.
deadass saw an apologist say "well maybe the water wasnt salty back then😊" the other day and it made me wanna cry lmao
Not only do Koalas feed (almost) exclusively on eucalyptus leaves, they will only eat them as they are freshly stripped from the branches that bear them.
So Noah would have needed live, growing eucalyptus trees on board the Ark. The deeper you go, the sillier this story becomes.
@@drlegendre I think what's silly is you taking a story, which if it is true, which is waht your comment here would be implying to be needed, then you're saying a God that can create enough water to flood the entire Earth can't create leaves? I'm sorry, but that logic just isn't logically making sense.
You also forgot that each animal would need fresh water for the 150 days.
If you read the bible, the ark was afloat just under a year. On the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible. Makes the problem worse. Then the plant eating animals need to have enough food to last them until the flooded ground dried enough to grow their food. Meanwhile, what do the carnivores munch on?
You’re assuming the floodwaters was saltwater, but it was most likely freshwater since the oceans are still getting saltier. Plant debris for the herbivores, fish for the carnivores.
@@CnCW453 Try leaving dead plants in water for that time.
That is not edible anymore.
And the fish would not be stranded on ground, the water would not recede fast enough. They would just swim away.
Also, not all carnivores eat fish.
@@CnCW453 you're assuming this story has any truth in it, I don't believe it because of all the flaws in it. Everything and every person except those on the ark is dead. The whole world is dead and most of the animals are thousands of miles away from home. So the Koalas die of starvation waiting for the eucalyptus to grow. The Pandas die waiting for the bamboo to grow. That's assuming they managed to walk and/or swim thousands of miles back to where they walked and/or swam from the previous year. All the animal waste went out of the one window, thousands of tons of shit and thousands of gallons of piss. No ventilation no drains or pumps to help. I'm assuming the lower deck would be mainly dead animals by week six.
@@CnCW453 so then where did all the salt water animals and fish that have been around longer than man go? Horrible argument.
There's also the issues of hygiene & wood damage to consider as well. It'll be painful to not have a way to control all the piss & shit. Plus termites, beetles, worms & woodpeckers.
Don't forget shipworms
The had shit chutes, and they put straw in the pens that would soak up the piss
To be somewhat fair, the ark doesn't have to last long. It's a single-voyage craft. The story is still ridiculous though.
@@vylbird8014 The majority of flora would die out if they are underwater for that long.
@@malsawmzela609 Seeds. That part is actually pretty easy to solve.
I took it personally when Noah listed mosquitos and wasps on board.
Ants.....
bed bugs
Noah when he realizes he has to take 850 species of ticks on board:
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 And then there's the termites...
I told him to do it just to spite you.
A few years ago, Ken Ham's phony ark actually filed an insurance claim for flood damage. 🤣
His ark is attached to the ground.
@@daniellymanmoore7517 And even with that it gets damaged by rain every year. Imagine that.
Does the policy include 'Acts of God'?
@@CarloAldo😂😂😂 omg 😰😳 no you just didn't
Bruh😂😂😂😂😂😂
The "copy" at the Ark Encounter is actually a giant block of concrete with a wooden facade. Oh yeah, and said facade has to be repaired every year for, get this, water damage.
Whenever it rains here the grounds flood. It's quite hilarious. Not to mention that Grant county and the state gave the ark encounter tax exemptions and billions of dollars over budget which is fantastic because Grant country has a 16% poverty rate(Nationally it's 10%).
@@shamanbeartwo3819 so that why it looks like a raised barn on the inside.
They deserve all of the consequences they get and then some, for throwing money at a creationist con man like Ken Ham! They never even came close to the visitor count they promised, and a great many of the ones who did go there were Atheists, in order to ridicule it and Ken! Bwahahahahahahaaaaa! AFAIK they can't even collect taxes on it because he declared it part of his ministry (a "special privilege" only religions get that is unconstitutional, as indoctrination is not charitable!)!
It Can't handle the Rain.
@@davidwilson7082 Nope. Nope it cant.
One problem that you forgot is ventilation. The story mentions only 1 small window, which would quickly result in everything dying from methane poisoning. Those modern arks need industrial air conditioning systems and still can’t have animals on board due to air quality, so a million or so animals could not fit.
Which makes you wonder who *really* wrote the story of Noah in the Bible aa they clearly didn't have good understanding of boats and it felt more like the work of a writer
@@queenbean7071 The story likely evolved from a historical event in Mesopotemia:
You had people there who'd make rafts and put their animals on it to float down the river and sell them there. What likely happened is that a really bad flashflood swept one of those rafts down into the gulf and pretty much stranded the people there until they hit land again, after which they likely sacrificed some of their animals to the gods as thanks.
Add a few centuries of retelling, finger waking and adding-on, and tada: the Flood of Noah.
@@queenbean7071 I think moses wrote it
@@piccolo917 that’s actually quite interesting
Are you sure the carbon dioxide wouldn't kill them before the methane?
I'm still salty with Noah for bringing cockroaches, black widows, and centipedes along.
What about rats?
Well good thing that never happened then right
@@anubisfox5765 Depends if you're religious.
@@staticchimera44 no depends on reality and reality says that never happened lmao simple history and geology prove it untrue
@@anubisfox5765 Geology proves it untrue? How? Also please tell me your secrets of how you know everything that happened centuries ago without having experienced it?
This doesn't include the amount of fresh water needed to keep all the animals alive.
Oh, and the collective heat and humidity from that many vertebrates in such close quarters within an insulated space (the wooden vessel) would probably cause a lot of heat stroke before long. Remember, humans are one of the only animals that sweat.
Also, the sheer amount of accumulated urine and scat that would be deposited every day would be too much for Noah and his family to clean up. This would result in the waste piling up, increasing the change of disease and infection for much of the ark's denizens. The urine would saturate the place with so much ammonia by the end of the voyage, that much of the animals would have died from ammonia poisoning or asphyxiation.
Even under the most generous conditions, the ark wouldn't work by far.
... and methane gas from their digestive processes
🐂💨
There are so many problems, irreconcilable problems with the flood/ark story. Supposedly, the ark was afloat for 150 days. So you have all the issues with space, food and water storage, waste removal, methane buildup, etc., but what about after the ark lands? How was food and water supplied for those gazillions of animals? The vegetation needed to feed the ruminant animals would taken AT LEAST an entire season to grow, not even taking into consideration the problem with the salinization of ALL the land. After landing, what did all the predators eat? It's just problem after problem with this entire story, start to finish.
Not only that, but how do you feed all the carnivores like lions, tigers, etc. on the ark for 150 days or more?
@@dx1450According to Sheldon's mom, they fed on the drowned bodies of heathens.
🤪
Wow! Sounds like you are trying to treat it as real. Science and religion don't mix. (Well, they do, but don't taste very good...)🤢
When they say god surpasses all the laws of physics or science they really do mean it don’t they
Do not think about it, just believe with your heart;)
EDIT: So many people take things seriously these days, and here I hoped that the emoticon will make it clear.
@@NetAndyCz yes master, please guide me through your beliefs for you own interests, I love being a puppet.
@@GunsNGames1 umm, sir, you ok?
NetAndyCz yes... let me shut off my brain so I don’t see the flaws of logic and kneel down to the holy magic man
Yes :( There's simply no arguing with believers. It's a special state of mind in which all reason is lost.
The ark begins to sink
Noah: Sh*t! I knew i should not take the woodpecker!
And the termites, and the woodworms...
Don’t forget the beavers 🦫 they have to chew on wood to keep their teeth from growing too long which can be fatal.
"Alright, who let the termites onto the ship?!"
@@benny_lemon5123 you
@@benny_lemon5123 you
You forgot to mention one other critical need they would have on the ark, that would require lots of room, and add tons of weight.
Fresh water.
Never mind that polar bears and penguins need to be kept close to 0 degrees C and reptiles closer to 30 to 40 degrees C. Without a giant HVAC system on board, water filtering, lighting etc. the entire Ark would have just been a dead zone in a week or two.
Add the fact when the flood finally receded and the animals left, all the plants were dead, so the grazing animals would have starved to death. Since there were no animals alive, what did the carnivores eat?
This are literally a million reasons the story doesn't add up...
@@redbaron6805
Right, so even though a salt water Shark can adapt to be in fresh water, you draw the line at Polar bears needing to be cold? Just disregarding the fact that all bears are related, which includes Panda bears. Why are skeptics like you so ignorant of literally straightforward things such as that? It's like you feel the need for a problem to scoff at, but you never actually thought of the implications of your own argument.
And you think they wouldn't have food? All animals were eating plants on the ark. Every animal that's a carnivorous now, just survived off plants. There was a lion that only ate plants a few decades ago, so it's not impossible. Noah just had to bring food onto the ark. It's really that simple. Your first arguments are really bad and easy to explain with a small amount of critical thinking, so what are the other complaints? How did Noah save the fresh water fish from dying in a salty flood?
@@johndodson8464
And they would need a way to collect and store that rainwater, right? Because the water they were floating on was not fresh. it had been mixed swamp water, ocean water, salt brine, and salt and alkali deposits from dry lake beds that exist all over the world to this day. As well as all the bloated dead and decaying bodies, of the humans and animals that died in the flood.
@@johndodson8464
They still needed to collect the water and store it. Maybe you should take five minutes and think about it before you ridicule others.
Remember it did not rain for the intire time they were adrift on the ocean nor after they had run aground on Mount Ararat.
@@johndodson8464
Your the one who brought it up stupid. Are you insinuating that rotting corpses aren't going to release deadly bacteria and microbes into the water? Just how many times were you dropped on your head as a kid?
I always wondered where all the wood came from, and who let him get away with it. You'd think if you had a neighbor and he'd clear cut one square mile of forest and showed no sign of stopping, you might confront him about it. Whoever was selling him the axes must have made a fortune.
Well they might have made a fortune but wouldn't have had long to spend it
Now you know why the land around the Euphrates river is so barren of trees.
@@TheMajesticSeaPancake If the flood actually happened, which it didn't.
@@aventicks718 and to think i almost got away with not having to explain that I don't believe it.
@@aventicks718
there are scientific evidence of a ancient mega flood
Regarding feeding animals, you're analyzing only the herbivores. But what about the carnivores such lions, hyena, crocodiles or bears?
It would be even worse meat weighs a lot more than grass
You'd have to keep tons upon tons of meat from spoiling within the 150 days, and you'd probably need more than that, since we don't want the carnivores to start a massacre as soon as the Arc lands.
Don’t ruin this more than it already is.
No problem. Just have extra herbivores to feed the carnivores. And remember supply to feed them while still alive. You do not need a little ship, just a floating island, with flexibility to handle the waves. And a huge well-fed crew to keep it repaired, of course.
It is also not just food during the flood. What do they eat for the year after the flood, everything has been killed by salt water.
The only way to have 2 of every animal would be a DNA storage system.
Well non mainstream evidence may suggest, man may have been that advanced then. I mean, there is many many statues in Egypt that we can only replicate today with computerised diamond tipped 3D machines. Which dont exist.
@@philwhatever3903 People did not know about or stored DNA back in the day.
Didnt have the knowledge or equipement.
@@CriticalCoen you completely missed my point!
To clarify we have no idea what technology they had for 290k yes 290 000 years. What we do know is their DNA was the same as it is today. Just like a sheep 300 000 years ago is the same as a sheep today! Same brain structure same intelligence. It has not evolved at all. (Edit of course a sheep has evolved through domestication, i meant its brain stricture and intelligence has not evolved)
You may argue that knowledge has improved however we also know that knowledge can be lost. Evidenced by the pre dynastic and the first dynasty of Egyptians.
A simple look on the differences of how they made their kitchen ware shows this.
@@philwhatever3903 No I did not miss your point.
The discovery of DNA and what it means did not happen back then. I can guarantee you that. That requires knowledge and equipment that wasnt around. How do I know? Because of the impact it would have made. The world would be changed in a way we dont see in the historical records.
Also, again, did not have the equipment. Just look at what we use today to decipher DNA.
Didnt have that back then.
Now, I totally get that people were more advanced than we think back then. And that is, in my opinion, probably true.
But you fail to realise how far ahead (in certain subjects) we are in relation to our ancestors.
We control atoms. Fucking atoms. For entertainment.
Also, things did evolve. Good example are dogs.
@@CriticalCoen The thing is you can’t guarantee it at all. Again we have no idea of the level of technology or knowledge. There is even evidence of nuclear fission in history. Granted this is from a time before Homo sapiens had appeared, however there has been many types of humans that span millions of years into history. We simply do not know the level of knowledge they had. What we do know is there has been a number of natural disasters that could have been the reason for losing some knowledge.
Next questions: for both the biblically specified dimensions and the seaworthy and large enough flotilla of 100s of ships instead of one giant one, how many acres of cyprus trees would they need to cut down, and how many man hours would forestry, transport, and construction take given the tools and techniques of the time?
42.
42 Acres.
42 Man hours.
well the Bible implied with character ages that it took 120 years. Yeah. That's a lot of work.
Noah build the ark for 100 years according to the Bible. He has three sons and he could always hire workers.
@@ixzmf this guy
@@ixzmf how about the termite while constracting 100 years...and the woods over 100 years
I've made similar arguments to a very religious person who would just answer with things like "through God all things are possible".
So there's no point in trying to provide evidence to people who simply deny it all and rely completely on faith for everything they believe.
I mean, it’s true. God can do all things
@@Cane4092 except exist
Lie
Every time you prove something from the Bible, you don't accept it
Actually
Foolish people talk nonsense
It's not a matter of believing your fool, it's a matter of facts
Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible
Come on. It's really simple. "It's bigger on the inside"😂😂
🤔 Aha, the Tardis Theory 😉
Doctor who reference nice
@@omaraltia what's that
@@ap6480 a really good show. You should watch it.
@@mz00956 no it isn't
Wouldn't Noah and his family also had to travel to other countries to collect various animals not found in their part of the world? Australia with its unique fauna comes to mind: 2 kangaroos, 2 koalas, 2 dingos etc.
How many more "kinds" of creatures existed than in comparison to now considering extinction. People fail to take that into account. I wonder how the South American Sloth made it on time for departure.
Since there was no tech back then, I think he just took every one he knew
The flaw is also that we know today, using DNA analysis and attempts to restore endangered populations, that it takes a minimum of 50 of each animal to even attempt to restore the population, and preferably 500 to prevent genetic problems.
Using 2 of each animal would have meant the populations would have quickly died out due to inbreeding and birth defects...
Well there was only one Adam and Eve, they somehow managed to populate the earth, it’s probably fiiiiiiiinnneeeee
They had to leave some behind, like the unicorn.
Let's not forget. The food source for a great many of these animals, is other animals.
Would it have been possible for them to survive on fish during this 150 days?
@@ibanezlaney the same way they eat their own placentas.
Lets not forget its Gods work.
@@murderboytje this tale has so many plot holes.
Should've smitten the wicked people instead. I mean, why wipe out animals and plants just to exterminate a few million people?
@@Teqnyq My favorite plot hole is God having an all encompassing plan, yet he is unable to see "he wickedness of man was great in the earth".... Kinda runs contrary to that Omniscient thing
I wonder how the carnivores like lions waited for deers, antelopes etc to reproduce so as to get food.
I think the bible supposes vegetarian lions.
yeah no@@stibiumowl
@@stibiumowl💀🤣
Ken Ham thinks dinosaurs were on the Ark
@@stibiumowl tell me you're kidding, vegan carnivores.😂
The most realistic part of the story: After Noah lands he takes the clean animals he protected through the ordeal and kills most of them as sacrifices to thank God, then immediately plants a vineyard, starts brewing up some wine, and proceeds to become the first alcoholic of the new world.
LOL
And I like how they decide what animal is "clean" and what animal is just shit. 👍 This is just perfect, why not to teach people to act like if they were superior to everything (just in case it wouldn't be already like that)... The worse teacher ever.
@@YannR34 every animal is superior to ticks and mosquitoes
@@YannR34 you have a problem with calling animals like sheep clean compared to insects like cockroaches?
@@YannR34 yeah its not like any animals carry diseases more likely than other or people had a hard time properly preparing meat safely from certain animals because of lack of technology while other animals were practically safe to eat raw. Definitely not the case that some animals are cleaner than others.
It never occurred to me that all plant life had to start from scratch after the flood, as there is only ever talked about animals on the ark!
@Crackerjack 2.0 good one! 🤣 Uhm, where was Noah again, when the flood hit?
to be fair, the bible is very explicit that the plant life on top of mountains was untouched by the flood. you know, the whole olive branch thing. does make me wonder why nobody thought to seek higher ground to escape though.
not one part of the fairy tale makes any sense at all. it is hard to comprehend the mentality of someone who can actually believe in such children's stories from the bronze age. it would be like starting a religion around stories of Clifford the Big Red Dog, and retelling tales of the giant dog like they were true.
@@eniszita7353 You mean, Clifford is NOT REAL??? 🤔
@@ClashBluelight apparently you are not a careful reader of this book:
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and *all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered*. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; *and the mountains were covered. *
Noah caught em' all And kyogre's back was their stronghold underneath simple!
No.
In the Bible the animals come to Noah
It's a fairytale people. Not even closely possible to build such a boat/ark, with 2 species of every animal on earth at THAT time. This is right up there with, 'Humpty-Dumpty, Cat in the Hat, Charlotts Web, Winnie the Pooh, Harry Potter...' If there is a God, he's having one heck of a laugh at our expense. And there's 65 other books in the bible, equally entertaining. Is it any wonder all the 2nd coming of Jesus predictions never came true. They're nice stories, let's leave it at that.
ITS REAL Bro What are U talking about
65 other books 😂 Bro educate yourself PLEASE.
@@Marcelo.1927
It's also in Stepen King, Anne Rice, Dean Koontz... books as well. There all child bedtime stories, not to be taken literally.
Even after the flood they would have no food , because the flood just killed everything on the planet, that includes plant life. I guess they could do a lot of fishing. But just try feeding fish to a sheep.
😂LOL
Worse, all those carnivores are going to be eating your *herbivores* before they can breed up a sustainable population...or breed, period, for most of them.
Read. The. Text.
The fish would also be dead from the massive mixture of fresh and salt water.
They knew the flood was almost over because Noah sent out a dove and it brought him back an olive leaf.
So there were plants when they came off the boat according to the Bible.
The aquatic animals deserve a bit more of a closer look, because it doesn't end well for them if we assume they don't need to come on to the ark because they can live in water. Assuming the flood is caused by rain, that means fresh water, which is bad news for basically every kind of aquatic animal out there. The fresh water will dilute the salt water of the oceans, meaning all marine animals will die. But this water will still be too salty for freshwater animals, so they'll die too. In short, if they didn't include aquatic animals on the ark, there would be none left alive after the flood ends.
Brackish dwelling species (lower salinity than a marine environment, but still saline) would be fine
Lol, you really believe some man went and did all this? Religious people are nuts.
@@Arbysroastbeefjuice lol, ok
Not to mention all of the trees being dead
@@Arbysroastbeefjuice this is a theoretical “would this have worked” video
In case this hasn't already been mentioned: You've misunderstood the 50/500 rule of thumb. 50 is the minimum possible bottleneck population, whilst 500 is the smallest viable population over multiple generations.
And 500 is probably extremely optimistic in the long term. We don't know the exact numbers but the cheetah is a good example that is doomed to die out because of a bottleneck that happened around ten thousand years ago. They're basically clones of one another even now.
I mean the whole point of the noahs ark is to debunk evolution right?
@@kallmekrow822 Except that it kinda ends up doing the opposite: To get all present species diversity from a few thousand 'kinds' requires a fantastic degree of hyperevolution.
Dude, the is mutha' fuckn' Debunked. Don't you fucking dare to make up bullshit about them. They perfectly defined that term in their Debunking video. Why, if they made a mistake with that then that means they could make more mistakes. Their word is law. Now go forth and Believe the Science.
@@Azathoth43 Are you addressing me?
How exactly did he and his crew capture lions, tigers, leopards, and bears without being their next meal? Poisonous snakes, bugs and other animals without being bitten and killed? Where was the food supply kept and kept without rotting? Did they provide the veterinary care too? How did they manage to keep that many animals alive for nearly a year without losing any to illness being in such an enclosed space - surely there'd be sickness issues? Those animals being caged up for so long must have been in real bad shape when they got off the boat. What did the do with the waste? Were they able to sleep with all the noise and smells? Did the termites cause any damage they would have had to repair? I have so so so many questions about the logistics of this task.
God did it. It was a miracle. Where is your faith? If you don't believe it you are going to Hell. Stop thinking and just fall on your knees and beg forgiveness. Keep praying until you cry tears of blood.
It's a funny thought though, a man living 4000 years ago venturing into the depths of the Australian outback to Rangle up two inland taipan snakes and two western brown snakes, knowing that if any of them bit him he would be dead due to not having any antivenom.
There are so many obvious problems with this story that I as a 6 year old called BS on it and stopped going to Sunday School. It really is too stupid for words to attempt to defend any factual basis for this myth.
@@thecaricature It wasn’t presented as a metaphor; but historical fact. Many cultures have flood stories, and most early cultures assigned the cause of natural disasters to the Gods. It’s just comical, sad and dangerous how some people insist in a factual interpretation of the Bible and seek to enforce this perspective on the rest of us.
@@thecaricature I was talking about my experience in Sunday school, and about people like the current speaker of the house.
Giraffes would be liable to get wet with the heads sticking out of the boats top.
Theoretically speaking, not if the giraffes we babies
@Aiden Williams your drawings of the ark would be exciting.
People sometimes forget about the birds. I've heard creationist argue that the birds would be spared because they can fly but most birds can not remain on the wing for months at a time. Chickens, turkeys, quails... never wouldve made it.
Birds would be able to rest on all the floating debris and floating dead bodies.
@@nerychristian What about the ones not able to fly at all? Like chickens and turkeys etc..? Noah's Ark is a fable and science proves it!
@@RoseLee65 Well, if God can make it rain so that the whole Earth is flooded, he can find a way to make the birds survive.
wait. didn't noah bring 7 pairs of every kind of bird onto the ark with him? it's even a major plot point that he has a dove with him. birds could also come to rest on the ark before leaving again.
well, I've heard creationist explain kangaroos and other unique wildlife making it all the way to Australia by, and I swear to you that this really happened, by volcanic explosion. This genius thought that all the animals would walk out of the Ark, onto a nearby volcano, that God would exploded it, that they would somehow survive that, the trip through the upper layers of atmosphere and cra- I mean land on Australia.
yea... not the brightest bunch, to put it mildly.
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The ark was an early Tardis. Far more vast on the inside than the outside.
Please tell us which verse in the bible says that.
@@chaschoune tardiverse!
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Noah built the ark with a sonic screwdriver lol
@@RealWorldGames The sonic screwdriver doesn't work on wood actually. That's the one tool Noah couldn't use to build it.
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I like the thought that the existence of life depended on a sausage chain of boats
Except that is not what it said in the bible it said one ark
@@animalian01 yes but it's more fun to imagine a long line of boats
@@thearbiterofnoodles Fun will not save your life
@@ronhansen8471 neither big boat that doesn't even work
@@ronhansen8471 said fun would have been more logical tho
Science: Debunks the Bible
Christians: God works in mysterious ways
Aye hear me out but…God does indeed work in mysterious ways
@@simeyonwest1092 prove it or shut it
@@anubisfox5765 Can you disprove it?
@@simeyonwest1092 ya easily lol almost all of the bible is utter easily proven nonsense. If the bible is nonsense then the god of it must be by simple logic. If god exist it would be as simple as showing himself to prove it and end all the violence but he doesnt because he isnt there
@@anubisfox5765 Hey yo! Did you know that Jesus fed thousands of people with a few bread and fish without exceeding ten? Did you also know that God save His child using a Crow? Do you even know what that means?
What about the carnivores? What about all the sh*t and the piss? You would need a small army to keep up with it.
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Coach you don't know your ass from your elbow. Ask Almighty God for your sins to be forgiven so you don't burn in the Lake of Fire
@@johngaccione5633 "Lake of Fire"
Fairy tales are fun huh.
@@ibperson7765 So, basically, if you use magic you can survive a magic flood?
And fundamentalists wonder why people laugh at them...
@@johngaccione5633 Just watched a real scientist go through this and debunk everything this guy said. “Science CONFIRMS Noah’s Ark and the Flood”. Starts at minute 18.
@@johngaccione5633 geeze you are funny lol lol lol
My Christian aunt: “but god protected them!”
I mean that literally is the whole point of a lot of the old testament
For then asking em as sacrifices LOL
The Bible does state God sealed them in the ship
If that's the case then why not just protect them without the ship? Why make Noah go through the insanely tedious task of building a freaking ship on his own and then make him become a zookeeper for months.. honestly I don't see how it's even possible for one man to build a ship own his own.. oh but then I guess god could have given him some superhuman powers.. so stupid lol.. I'm always amazed at the extent religious people would ignore logic for the sake of religion.. it's just too obvious
@@eat.sleep.symphony1555 testing his loyalty, have you actually read the Bible before?
Even if the rain was fresh water, the sudden change in salinity will kill almost everything aquatic. So Noah has to bring them on board along with f*cking huge tanks of water to live in.
If the rain was salty, would have corroded the boat as well.
If the water was enough to cover "even the tallest mountains", that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing. That also means the oceanic pressure and salinity would change dramatically, which would kill all sea animals. Nothing makes sense.
Regardless of how fresh the rainwater is, if the earth was covered in it, the oceans' and seas' salty water would mix with all the water covering land, making the final mix too salty for freshwater aquatic creatures, and too diluted for saltwater life. In short, every fish would die.
@@lucalinadreemur9448
There are a lot of life forms which can survive a wide range of salinity. Though combined with the massive changes in currents and all we are still facing a 95%+ extinction event.
@@lynxcato3327 "that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing."
Ah, no. Firstly, the rising water levels would push the atmosphere up, and as the huge amount of water being dumped into the oceans (from, you know, god's magic tap) would result in a massive release of energy, that would make the waters boil, apparently, so being too hot, and being surrounded by cooked fish and whales would be more the order of the day.
And not to mention many civilizations didn’t even notice this flood and carried on as if it didn’t happen.
Like the Chinese for 1, the Egyptians, etc
actually, just about every civilization in history has a record of a global flood around the same time period as each other
@@EMJ4438how the hell would these ancient people know it was a global flood? Did they look up satellite images of the whole earth, they may have witnessed local floods, so have I on a few occasions.
@@EMJ4438 they don’t have a record about one global flood. They have records of local floods, and local flooding is neither uncommon nor supernatural in origin. As for a massive *global* flood that wiped out all civilizations, there is zero archeological evidence.
That’s a very good question. How would every civilization have records of a global flood without all originating from the survivors
As an Australian I can debunk the whole Noah story with one idea. A bunch of dudes travelling around to the other side of the world to collect all of our Spiders and Snakes and sticking them on a boat. And kept them alive, without getting bitten & dying themselves, long enough to put them all back afterwards. And getting all of the kangaroos and other marsupials back and not letting any Hoofed animal in here. Biggest pile of crap is the whole Noah myth. But if a middle eastern dude can collect 17 different species of Funnel Web Spider and a few Taipans, and live to gather everything else, well I’d be very impressed.
As an Australian, I’m surprised that the Aborigines (estimated to have occupied Australia for at least over 50,000 years) weren’t aware that they weren’t supposed to be around after the world wide flood about 6,000 years ago.
The story of Noah's ark was a historical event
Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible
@@_eLz_The story of Noah's ark was a historical event
Archaeology has proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible
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@@thecaricature sure, if you’re talking about the epic of Gilgamesh but in this case we’re talking about a 600 year old man named Noah who built a wooden boat.. you’re talking about a story that was written in a time where people most likely wasn’t aware that there was a whole world outside their bubble
@@thecaricature “The "local bubble" for the people who wrote the bible was half the planet.” You mean, half the disk covered by a dome ?
No I don’t think that they were cavemen at all, please show me where I even suggested that they were. They were just a bunch of goat herders who borrowed stories from other civilisations within their reach as you have clearly stated with the Noah story.
Archimedes hasn't been born yet, thus the physic of water is still free for all for Noah. He can technically build the arc using rocks and it will float because buoyancy is still a couple hundred years away in the future.
So Isaac newton invented gravity?
I suppose Einstein invented time and space?
wait Einstein is god. Im coming out with bible of einstein soon.
You guys realize their comment is a joke, right? More of mocking the video for saying specific things weren't thought of or invented yet.
@@Adventist1997 why are you in every comment section. A word of advice don't waste time here. You are taking this too seriously .
The sad thing about all of this is that even as a small child the Ark story never made any sense to me and seemed completely impossible, but yet there are grown adults that wholeheartedly believe it! But I guess when one can just accept "God made it work" as an explanation for anything and everything it makes swallowing this BS easy.
@@maddawg_ plates tectonics compress land masses causing land that was once submerged in the distant past to rise above the water and eventually buckle in areas of weakness allowing them to be pushed further upwards and form into the various mountain ranges we see today leaving the fossils formed from ancient sea life deposited in their rock layers. This is basic middle school stuff. I really hope you don't actually think this is somehow a difficult question to answer.
@@maddawg_ fish riding birds
So now what? you gonna believe someone saying things about tectonic plates or you're gonna stick with lardass saying "god made it works". Don't you hear youself? time to wake up from you wild dream and start facing reality
It is even more sad that children can intuit the truth of the story of Noah and the Ark while many adults are blinded by the strictly materialist/reductionist worldview that is popularized today. If we are to understand ourselves and where we are headed as individuals and as a civilization, then we should begin to listen to what Noah has to say. I highly recommend checking out Jonathan Pageau and his Symbolic World channel for more insight into the understanding of these stories and how they lay out the fundamental principles of reality and consciousness.
Well if you actually aren’t so ignorant and you look the arc has been found and discovered in turkey at the arat mountains. It is 100% real. Say what you want you’re a nonbeliever. I was too.. Ground penetrating radar has confirmed. Core samples drilled have confirmed. The timeline the location. Say what you want but Noah’s ark was 100% real
Speaking as someone who occasionally flies with a dog who must remain inside a duffel under the seat for the duration of the flight, it would have been impossible to pack that many animals into an ark before the invention of Trazidone.
I must admit, I found that very funny.
That’s why they were put into hibernation.
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Where's that in the Bible again?
@@jeffthomson4223 Everywhere. The flood was a supernatural event and God put the animals on the ark. He didn’t need any scientists input on how it needed to be done.
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I think we can correct that to 'nowhere'. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about making sure the animals were small/young. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about provisions of food or water. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about putting the animals into hibernation. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about gathering or returning animals from all over the Earth. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about caring for the animals in the devastated post-flood world. Nowhere in the Bible does it even talk about trying to preserve the plants that would also have been destroyed by the flood.
Noah's Ark is a half-ar$3d story, full of problems, and you're fabricating solutions out of your own ar$3 to try and fill those gaps.
Nothing supports you here- not science, nor the Bible.
If you’re bringing cockroaches, yea this is the end for me. And I’m totally ok with that.
Be really gross if they didn't exist & nothing ate rotting things.
@@vashmatrix5769 this is true.
Those animals can die. DIE.
Damn, so you would need more than an entire cargo ship of food per day.
And when the waters had receded, Noah said to the animals "Go forth and multiply". Then two snakes came up to Noah and said: "But Noah, we can't, we're adders". So Noah took his axe, and fell a tree, and he built them a log table. 🤣
What are adders? I don't get the joke.
@@ElliottWong2024 it's a spieces of poisonous snakes living in the UK
@@ElliottWong2024 and it's also a unit which adds together two input variables. So yeah, it's a wordplay. Like «multiply» «but we're *add*ers»
@elliotwong6113
Type of snake.
And then he said to his bored and frustrated family members: " Go forth and sub-divide!" and handed them various assault rifles and ammo packs... 😜
Noah must've forgot the dinosaurs.
That's why they went extinct.
If Noah was going to collect all the animals he would have to have traveled over 8,000 miles on foot to secure and transport animals from several continents. Across desserts, oceans, frozen artic and mountains and desserts. At 600 years old. Also he had to find out what animals were male and female. Flies, ants, ticks, snakes etc.
he didn't collect them they came to him, so you haven't read the story.
@@marcusmuse4787 Does not change the facts that jaguars apparently swimmed from South America to get to the middle east and then swam back.
So many facets of ridiculous to this story. It practically hurts my brain--gives me a HEADACHE--to consider that people (A) believe this themselves and (B) expect ME to believe it and (C) they get indignant and snarky when they find that I DON'T!
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@@marcusmuse4787 🤣 That's even more ridiculous!
@@marcusmuse4787lol right..just a story
The visual of the ark bending and bouncing like a banana was hilarious
more fun biblical facts is Noah was the first recorded person in history to circumnavigate the globe in a lengthy quest to capture all living life from every corner of existence. To do this he would have need another boat or boats, he would also have had to navigate some of the harshest terrains on the planet with out a map, such as rainforests, deserts, mountains and at least the South pole because that is also a landmass and wont float like the North pole. Once he had collected these animals he would then have to safely transport them to where he built his ark or arks to safely transport them again when the flood happened. Using math again we could work out how much the sea levels rose to cover all land masses, and then all we need to figure out is where all that water went again to restore landmasses. Noah was clearly well ahead of his time and well educated in everything required to cut trees down, to carpentry, to being a vet or doctor for every species on the planet, an accomplished sailor and navigator, he would have been able to write down his memoires or ships log, and he would have been able to speak dozens of languages because frankly where else could they have come from. He would have been the first human in history to procreate and produce humans of every race and culture, unless he did indeed save more than just his own family. That would mean convincing several humans to join his quest, assist in building ships and rounding up animals, as much as mucking them out and keeping them from eating one another. All while making sure diseases did not kill them all off with no medicines or vaccines
I think you've forgotten to take Noah's sonic screwdriver into account
but it doesn't work on wood.
@@stm7810 it doesn't *do wood* !?😂
@@Cludnugget yeah, that's been a problem several dozen times.
And when the flood eventually disappears (where did the water even go?), what food was left on land - it would all have died underwater.
Atheist-RUclipsr debunked every sentence in the bible.
I'm guessing the water froze over in the arctics
The only logical answer here is that the bible is fake
But no. Before the flood the land was much flatter. During it, the tectonic plates moved around and pushed mountains up and other parts sank down forming the oceans. They had much more land than we have now.
@@slevinchannel7589 No, he didn't. Clearly not possible. The BIble refers to numerous historical events that even atheists agree happened, so quit spouting such nonsense.
Atheists: the bible isn't literal. It's just a metaphor.
Christians: the bible is both literal AND and a metaphor.
It's not just one book you know right?
Imagine if Noah make multiple ships that size
A floating city full of animal from top to bottom, Sounds really epic
There were 8 people on the ark.
Who would feed the animals and shovel their caca over the side on multiple ships?
Noah was 500 years old.
So he probably wasn't much help.
Apologists will respond, “Kinds!” But what’s a kind? “You know, kinds.”
Better question-isn’t drowning and saving via boat rather inefficient for a god? Isn’t creating people to be executed in any way inefficient for a god?
Don’t question it too hard or it won’t work
@@Gumpmachine1 stop asking completely logical questions?
@@AMC2283 if you want to believe the story, then yes
Well if god gives you free will to do whatever you know earth is kinda not his place its ours
God is not about efficiency he is about free will. He gave us the ability to act our own but also gave laws as well. When mankind chose not to follow the laws he flooded the earth
Random thought: if creationists tried to claim that it would be possible to keep everything on board because there's not as many species or something back then as there are today, they'd just simply be straight up admitting that evolution is a thing, which directly conflicts with the rest of their beliefs.
Many of them now espouse belief in "micro" evolution, where species can adapt to their environment (since we can easily demonstrate this) but they claim macro evolution is still impossible. Then we laugh at the insane rate of "micro" evolution that would be necessary to see the current level of diversity on the planet after just 5000 yrs from a global flood as they desperately attempt to change the subject or fabricate more bs
@@chadingram6390 I understand what you're coming from but don't we all adapt on a daily basis? I am a Christian and I don't believe that Evolution is real, however, I do know for a fact that ALL living beings adapt slightly to their respective environments. [Evolution is basically the physical change to a body of a living thing] so if Evolution is true and it's still trying to find the best species, why aren't us as humans evolving adapting physically to the enviornments.
@@StyanaxPrime because we’ve come up with enough technology(I’m gonna use the term technology loosely) to compensate for the needs of the environment so we’re not in an environment for long enough to adapt very noticeably. However we still do adapt if you notice closely. Almost anybody that lives in a warmer climate will end up being more lively in warm environments than cold ones
@@StyanaxPrime Every living thing is a transition between what came before and what might come after - the changes might be tiny and often invisible, but they do happen. At some point in the past in Europe, a mutation occurred that meant that a gene didn’t turn off as infants finished with digesting their mother’s milk. This was an invisible change but as this spread, it meant that more and more people could continue to digest the sugars in milk past their infancy, giving them an advantage.
Take a look at dogs - dogs as we see them exist because of us and some can’t even give birth naturally because their heads are too large. We don’t notice much change in us because we only see a few generations at any one time - throw in hundred of millions of years of time, and you will see much bigger changes in us. Evolution is real and demonstrably so, even if you don’t believe in it.
@@StyanaxPrime It’s not physical changes to a body within its life time, it’s slight mutations and gene mixing from generation to generation, with some mutations not even having any effect, although some may only come into play many generations down the line. Evolution can only work with what it has.
Take the nerve that goes to the larynx- it leaves the brains, goes down the neck, into the chest, loops under the aorta, back up the neck and finally to the larynx. Now spare a thought for the poor giraffe where the same thing happens, with this nerve being up to 16 foot long - a direct route would only be a few inches. No creator or designer would do this, and certainly wouldn’t keep making the same mistake. So why is it like that? Evolution can only work with what it has - at some point in our very distant past, when the creatures that would become mammals were likely swimming around as a very early fish, this nerve was likely a straight path to a gill slit. You only need to look at very early embryos to see how similar we all start in the womb or egg.
What about ventilation?
What about waste?
What about food and water for the animals and the humans?
And so many more questions.
Some people says they were put to sleep so I'm guessing hibernation. But i that also make me wonder how long does hybernastion can take u still with small ration
@@randomperson4198 and there are a lot of animals that don't hibernate because their bodies weren't evolved to do so in the first place. So that would also factor in to how long can those animals stay alive after this pseudo hibernation that was forced upon them.
The more I think about this the more questions I think of.
@@amy_pieterse i mean what happened if some god just forced animal cant hybernate being put hybernate. How long would they even last.
@@randomperson4198 I suppose, a hypothetical god could just do it indefinitely where it might have no harmful affects on the animal, because they are god. But this is pure speculation.
Do you think the animal would be conscious in this state like a coma patient? Like, they are unable to move but are able to hear and feel everything around them.
@@amy_pieterse oh geez i didn't think that one i just thought they would sleep like normal sleeping
The smell in that thing would have been downright diabolical 😂
The reason you'll never truly be able to debunk this is because in bible canon you can explain anything away by saying "god helped".
@Mike Seork Right but in bible cannon god can create and do anything. If he can create matter from nothing and design every single animal in existence. This is all an easy fix. You're right though, this would make him a trickster.
@Mike Seork Hmmm, so then what do you attribute the perfect horizontal layers of the grand canyon to? Or the buried vertical trees? Or the oceanic fossils in high elevations?
Oh, and around 2019, science stated that humans all came from a pair of ancestors. Doesn't that seem pretty close to Adam/Eve or Noah's Family?
Or there was no ocean before the great flood which could explain why we have oceans now.
Just a theory.
@@bogusphone8000 idk the geological history of the great canion but they were obviously floods before and most importantly the continents have moved in the last millions of years, but it happened before any human was born and this did not happened in one single cataclysmic event but in millions of year of tectonic activity.
Science never state anything, some researcher make theory that are validated or not by further finds or other researchers. And for this one we can't know exaclty how humans have evolved into what they are now we miss some crucial information. All we can say is that it worked like for every species on earth, genetic mutations over millions if not billions of years
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The oceanic fossils was the resulting of shifting tectonic plates (which are how mountains are made), the Grand Canyon is sedimentary rock, which has layers, and as for the buried trees, prehistory is filled with floods, just not a global flood. A global flood did happen at one point in time, but it was long before trees came into existence.
One other important point is that there’s not enough water to flood the earth to that depth so the story is a nonstarter.
How much fresh drinking water would they have also needed I wonder?
Even if one melts all the water in Greenland and the Antarctic, that only raises sea levels to 126th the height of Everest (although there are 3 mountains that could be considered the tallest on Earth).
Was the water fresh? That would have killed off most marine life. Or was the water saline? That would have killed off most fresh water species.
Even that point is irrelevant, as the amount of water needed, being dumped that quickly, would result in a tremendous release of energy, enough to boil seas, so anything that lived near the surface, and/or needed to breath air (all the whale species, orcas, dolphins, porpoises, turtles, etc) would also have to be accommodated on the Ark.
I see that Opponens Periculo removed his post, however, it ended with:
"There's really not one group of people or civilisation today that do not have ancient stories, written down or told for generations, about "the great flood"."
I would like to point out that no ancient civilisations could have stories about the biblical Great Flood, as they would all have been wiped out by it, with the exception of 8 people.
Also, people had to live near rivers, or some sort of fresh water, until they invented decent ways of transporting fresh water, so of course they would have flood stories.
@@pineapplepenumbra he probably realised it was a crap comment, put it down as just another religious numpty
@@ramptonarsecandle Sounds about right.
The only way the ark could be as small as claimed is if it wasn't carrying live animals, but genetic samples of every species instead.
Which is highly unlikely in the time the ark was supposedly built
@@wildsideofthings7733 how is it god destroyed the earth because man ate from tree of knowledge ..do u think we stayed in caves or began manipulating nature hence the flood ? do u think that was done with copper chizzles and rocks ???? ..the bible explains we wasnt cave men in those days but an advanced civilization
@@MPezant1215 I’m not religious, so I don’t believe anything from any religious texts. I prefer going by what the science says.
@@wildsideofthings7733 "I prefer going by what the science says." Bruv then wtf why were you on about Noah's Arc something that was said by religious text
@@trollinape2697 Pointing out faults in a text doesn't mean you believe the premise.
It's would not be an argument reply just to state " arc isn't real bruv".
It's a better narrative is to pick it apart. Piece by piece.
I want to know where all the water went after this, and where it came from in the first place. If all ice on earth melted right now, the ocean would only rise about 70M. Not anywhere near as high as in the story. So where did the water come from? Where did it all go afterwards?
its all just a story-- so is the entire bible or any other religious fiction book. you have to believe in santa claus as an adult
@robertmethia7080 you're aware that me questioning where all this water came from or went to was my way of saying that I don't believe the story, correct? We seem to be in agreement, and you still tried to insult me by saying I must still believe in Santa. How are you gonna misinterpret what I said and insult me while doing it.
@thecaricature I'm aware. We can ask that question too. Naturally, we have to assume that before this flood, all that water was also underground already, otherwise the land masses wouldn't have been the same. So if the water is already underground, and you can correct if I'm wrong, but the flood was caused from rain? How would the water thats all underground, rise up, out of the ground?
Assuming physics were the same at this time period of course, the water would have to all rise out of the ground at once for this flood, then turn into rain, and then all that water went underground again, leaving the same amount of water above ground as was there originally. Most of this trapped water is in rock as well. So we need to figure out how it got out of this rock, then back into it.
It's a very tough thing to explain unless you'd wanna assume physics broke for this. This is one thing about the story I can't really understand, there's more.
@thecaricature you could be right, i don't think it's anything that can be disproven necessarily, at least now.
I wouldn't call it likely at all. I find it much more likely that it's extremely exaggerated. Floods happen. Not to that extent. If it did, everyone would have died. You can't fit every species on the planet on a boat. There are species still being discovered.
How did other humans survive, how did animals, especially animals that are separated by bodies of water or are endemic to a certain place fins and get to the ark. Then we gotta figure out how 2 of every species would populate their species again. Inbreeding would be extremely high, leading to a lack of genetic diversity. Minimum viable population is different for each species, but typically varies from a few hundred to a few thousand individuals. 2 individuals just isn't enough to keep the VAST majority of species from going extinct.
I can't prove this didn't happen. I don't claim to know what happened. But it seems extremely unlikely for alot of reasons. Where the water came from and went to, how animals got to the ark, how they knew to get to the ark, how others survived, how 2 each species was enough to populate the whole species again when that's very unlikely to happen, then things like plants would have died from being underwater and drowning along with not getting proper sunlight and stuff like that. It's not a story I think makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there was floods that was devastating to local areas. But the story as it is is likely exaggerated alot.
I respect that you're not trying to talk down on me for having a different opinion on this too. Alot of people get aggressive rather than try to have a normal conversation.
I want to start this by saying I am not choosing sides on the Noah's Ark theory, I am not religious, I just consider myself a skeptic and scientist, who also has a passion for history, and I can emphatically say this conversation is a perfect example of why we need to put the "H" back in "STEM." It's VERY dangerous to go into this conversation with modern standards. This video constantly shifts between what is needed on Noah's Ark and what a modern Ark would need, and I believe these blurred lines act as a strawman argument of sorts. Again, I'm not religious, but I do know when looking at ANY historical text (regardless to your religious beliefs) you must look at it through a historical lens, not a modern one. That never happens with this debate.
I find it ironic that the video acknowledged that "unknown species" cannot make it onto the boat. We must ask ourselves how many species did Noah specifically know of, not how many do we know. Second, when the Bible states the world has flooded we have to acknowledge the perception of just a tiny group of people that recorded the event, not the literal interpretation. History is not what happened, it is what people say happened. How could Noah possibly know if all corners of the world have flooded. Even being at sea for 150 days is not enough time to check the entire planet. When you reduce these parameters to just the scale and scope of one man's knowledge it's not farfetched to believe a man put every creature he knew of onto a ship and toughed out a particularly large flood for his immediate surroundings. We no longer need to explain how Siberian Tigers or African Elephants survived if Siberia or Africa was never underwater, and Noah never knew they existed.
It's these fundamental misconceptions that science (or bad scientists) just refuse to acknowledge, and with such poorly defined parameters, I just don't see how you can call that good science or properly debunked. It is a logical fallacy to build such an extreme example, debunk it, then say it could never happen when there are plenty of lesser possible explanations that could still exist.
Taking ancient script entirely too literal is not the key to debunking it. Obviously, things couldn't have occurred as it was explained (or at least in its most strict perception) but it didn't have to in order to be written the way it was. Heck, it doesn't even need to be considered a known lie, or tall tale. You just need to understand the true limits to a single individual's perception.
I do not think Noah could have known every species that could have existed, I don't think he could have known the entire world flooded, and I think this misconception on his part could have been poorly translated over thousands of years. There are possible answers that exist between both extremes, (i.e. it happened exactly as the Bible explained or it couldn't have happened exactly how it was explained) and science isn't doing its job by stopping at, "He couldn't fit literally every known species we know of on his boat therefor the whole story is debunked."
The most likely explanation I see is that something could have happened just on a much less grander scale that is discussed.
Damn... acknowledging bias in 2021? You have lots of my respect :0
Makes sense
I understand you are taking it non religiously, But the text is meaningless if not taken literally, as the faith of those that propagate it depends on it being literal, hence y your argument is not completely adequate.
The problem is cherry-picking what you can take literally and not literally
If you can't take this story literally, then how/why would you take other biblical stories literally? Isn't the whole concept of religion blind faith- to believe without seeing?
@Franklin Roe I did. And I agree that you can't take Noah's word literally. For example, MAYBE he wasn't aware of other countries' existence during those times. So "whole world" probably meant only his city
The problem is this: Everytime science disproves religious stories, people will just resort to saying "oh maybe it isn't literal. Maybe it's just a metaphor"
BUT until then, we're supposed to believe what the bible says because it's "God's word". There will always be reasons/excuses for the religious to justify their beliefs lol that's what I find problematic. It's automatically considered real/literal if it isn't disproven by science yet
Not to mention the following:
-It was built by 7 untrained peasants
-They had no idea how many animals were on earth
-They had no way to get to every end of the earth to locate all these animals
-They wouldn’t be able to catch/tame the animals in order to get them on the ark
-You need different climates for all these different animals, I don’t think they had the technology for climate regulation
-Do you think 14 Lions are going to sleep for 150 days instead of feasting on all the prey you gathered for them
-What about amphibians? Frogs live on land but they’ll need to give birth to tadpoles in water, does that mean they’ll have to go overboard?
-Think about all the breeding that would go on in 150 days, there would be hundreds of mice and rats running around
-Disease. They’re gonna die. Disease is gonna run rampant.
God didnt allow that during the travel on the ark. But when the flood was done the animals did whatever they wanted.
Ah yes god... Answer for every questions people are too lazy to actually answer
@@StyanaxPrime how very convenient
@@StyanaxPrime Honestly it would be easier to just recreate the animals. Heck, even Thanos had a more convenient way of doing things in Endgame.
There's no reason why Noah wouldn't have many people working on the Ark. What technology is necessary to house different animals? Why would they let the lions roam freely? Amphibians can hibernate. What's wrong with a lot of rats and mice, they could be food for other animals. And it's only 150 days.
The worst It would face is the "rainfall". To cover the Earth to a depth just above Everest in 40 days, rain would have to fall at a rate around 15 times the average bath tap flow rate on every single point of the Earths surface.
Doesn't really matter. An Omnipotent God like in the story could do that with ease. If you're trying to disprove something then you've gotta do better than that.
would absolutely leave nothing left of the planet. definately all life would be gone
@@Wifgargfhaurh It works out at 642 million Niagaras - all over the earth. Nothing would survive. and nothing to eat for more than a yeear.
@@Wifgargfhaurh ah yes, the God of the Gaps.
@@Wifgargfhaurh Right ... he's so omnipotent that he allows the devil to hang out and mess with everyone ... FOR SOME REASON ... instead of just blinking him out of existence - not to mention all the diseases and natural disasters that kill thousands of his children every year.
I don't know why Christians play the Omnipotent/Omniscient card; it opens a Pandora's box of contradictions and absolutely ludicrous claims.
Who pointed the penguins towards the right direction ?
Needless to say, the math proves Noah's Ark is impossible.
Unless the ark was a Tardis and Noah was a Time Lord from Doctor Who.
Well, our math is limited and less compare to existing math that maybe only God know about.
@@observeobserve8902 Math is universal, and applies to everyone. Whether you're man or a god, 1+1 is makes two.
@@emmanuelwatson7893 And science is all about facts and reality,
@@observeobserve8902 it is indeed. Noah's Ark is fiction.
Noah: How do I design and build this thing?
God: I will help you
Noah: How do I collect and berth all the animals?
God: I will help you
Noah: BTW, where are you getting all the water?
God: I will help you
Wouldn't the salinity of the sea water also make agriculture impossible for some time after the water receeds?
TODAY, there's worry over the Greenland Ice melting and desalinating the water enough that the gulf stream water won't sink and return south , I think that is a bit silly but consider a much smaller globe, smaller seas and no big oceans . With Twice as thick atmosphere there's twice the O2 and what now is considered super saturation possible up to 8000 feet or so, then you have cosmic ray effects on inner earths' primary water (fountains of the deep) SO Adam's near perfect hypobaric garden paradice first gets blocked by 'flaming swords' (lava?) Due to a cosmic ray incident as a roge Red dwarf magneto star swings by gets deflected into a shallow long elipse, men still live long long lives protected from most cosmic rays but not all the sling shot Nibru swings back in from the north, or a second one as our solar system merges in to the plain of the milky way a storm of impacts causes a explosive decompression, flash freezes millions of animals in the "Arctic" moves the Earths pole, expance of the pacific is accelerated and slows down about 2500 years ago. The Year and Day gets closer to 365 and 13 months as the moon a captured moon rises out to a 28day orbit By Julius and Agustus, the Romans settle to nearly todays calendar year. See my post with illustrations on : .facebook. com /tvlOtechnoman
No. The soil was all churned up, and the seas weren't as salty, as can be proven by rates of salinity.
@earlysda I see. But I don't understand how a global flood wouldn't extrude salt from already existing deposits inland and underground, adding to its overall salinity and then being somewhat uniformly distributed planet wide? Wouldn't there be a somewhat uniform layer of salt left behind, sort of like the iridium layer that we could dig into and find pretty much anywhere on earth after such a flood?
@@ryanfulton8421ryan, no, there wouldn't as it would be absorbed into the water. There were no huge expanses of water in the world before the flood.
@earlysda I can't get on board with that assertion. Respectfully, it does not make sense.
And given that they were afloat for 150 days meaning everything else would have been under water, there would have been absolutely no food for Noah and his family or for any of the animals because everything, including all vegetation, would be dead and would take some time to regrow as all the land would be nothing but mud for quite a time. So, I guess they also had at least one seed from every type of vegetation in the world in order to restart all plant life too. Now think about how much food would have had to be on that arc to keep all life alive until new food could grow. Noah and his family couldn't have built an arc big enough and gather that much food if they had 300 years to do it. Also, they would have been quite busy with animal latrine duty for near half a year. Yeah, I'd say this arc story is pretty well debunked.
@@thecaricature You think every animal would be able to survive on fish? And how would they fish since there was only one window at the top and no other openings anywhere on that ark? What would they use as bait? Think man, think.
@@thecaricature Again dude, where would they fish from since the only opening was one little window on the top and what would they use for bait? For grain, they would need at least 300,000 pounds for just the 2 elephants alone for a year. Also, how did 8 people keep up with feeding these animals and cleaning up after them all every day? They would be peeing and pooping every day in an enclosed ark so where did all the animal waste go for at least 150 days afloat? Think man, if you're capable of it.
@@jimo3173you cooked them
There were sewage systems in the ark that’s what the window was for…
But if you do t believe in Noah’s ark
Look I’m not asking any of you good people to believe in the word of God but I just ask one thing from all of you, Ik you don’t want to do it I know you don’t want to believe it… but please read Revelation 13: 16-17… and then if you will, go ahead and look into the progression of this prophecy… especially in Sweden… that’s all I ask…
@@angryrabbit6637 Really? A sewage system leading "up" to the one window in the whole ark? That window would be doing nothing day and night besides dumping animal waste right back onto the outside of the ark. No, there was no sewage system on that ark because there was no ark.
There were also way less extinct species back in the old days
@zee Apparently they're not too worried about inbreeding either
@zee evolution isn't nearly fast enough to create the huge variety in animals we see today. Also, a very important part of evolution is genetic variation, and only a male and female of a species is not nearly enough genetic variation and inbreeding would most definitely be a problem. Inbreeding is a huge problem with pure bread dogs today.
@zee how did you know the flood happened? Did you watch the world get filled with water? There are litteral mountains of evidence behind evolution, we have a much greater understanding of evolution than we have of gravity. We have the fossil records, genetics, litteral observed evolution in insects and much more. Evolution of species is like the evolution of a language, you always speak the same language as your parents and grandparents etc. but over time the language slowely changes, eventually becoming a different language entirely, the same goes for evolution of species.
@zee the universe doesn't have to begin from a magical something, that is a huge assumption on your part. Science doesn't have an explanation for the beginning of the universe, they just admit that they do not (yet) know, the fact that we don't know doesn't mean you can just insert your god as an explanation, that is just like the people of the past attributing lightning to a god because they didn't know where it came from. The multiverse hypothesis is not a scientific theory, it is simply one of the many hypothesis there are out there. There is a huge difference between a hypothesis and a theory in science. Something is only considered a theory in science if it is demonstratably true, like evolution, the multiverse will always remain an hypothesis because, just like god, it is impossible to prove or disprove.
@zee evolution does not say anything about the creation of life, the fact that you think it does already tells me how little you actually know of the theory of evolution. You are referring to abio genesis (self replicating cells forming from non living matter), which is currently the most plausible hypothesis for the emergence of life, that life might have come from an asteroid is another, much less plausible, hypothesis. But none of these things have anything to do with evolution. Evolution is just about life diversifying over time, there is no distinction between macro and micro evolution, it is the exact same thing, just viewed at different timescales. Evolution is one of best understood scientific concepts and has been tested countless times, has mountains of evidence and has been observed, the fact that you do not consider it science is preposterous. You are however correct that we do not currently have the means to know how the universe came into being, but that doesn't mean you can just say "god did it" and call it a day. We simply don't know, nothing more, nothing less. The flying spaghetti monster is just as plausible for the creation of the universe as the god of the bible, or gaia or whatever god you feel like inserting into that gap. All of these explanations are just cheap attempts of explaining our existence, maybe one day science will be able to give us a definitive answer on the start of the universe, just like science gave us a definitive answer on so many aspects of life and the universe.
Managing all of the animal feces must have been a huge pain.
Especially with only 8 humans.
The ark wouldn't of been seaworthy even in the calmest of water. The middle of the ship would be more buoyant then the two ends. This means that the middle of the ship would be pushed up causing structural failure.
Even if you were to grant the ridiculously low numbers of pairs of 'kinds' that some creationists claim. You still wouldn't have enough space for them and their food and that's without even getting into how much fresh water they would need.
Could it be that God had some part to play in the properties of the Ark?
If god if omnipotent, wouldn't be also be able to manipulate the inside of the ark, since he's god?
I believe the bible works, and every impossible thing in it works because God made it work?
@@notforgetful4926 If he can make something that can't float, float, why not just make a mountain where only the saved humans and animal can survive until the flood goes?
@@ReachForTheSky Because he would be busy planning for Jesus's arrival to actually care that much? Why would he create a 3rd heaven (Heaven, Eden, and this mountain you speak of?"
@@notforgetful4926 I think God is just drunk and didn't think about that
@@papasult11 damn bro, my entire argument disproved lmao
The one insect Noah could NOT have or carry on the ARK would be "TERMITES".
Never mind different builders having different interpretations of what a cubit is, they can’t even keep it consistent on their own vessels. The first ark’s measurements are all over the shop. For length a cubit equals 450mm, for height it’s 600mm, and width it’s 760mm. The second one is closer to consistent but still the length of a cubit varies slightly (length: 516mm/height: 500mm/width 520mm).
Young Earth Creationists also include dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals on the ark so you'll need to recalculate and add them lol.
Dinosaurs might not even exist…
@@xtremegamrr3719 no? like, they 100% exist, are you high?
@@xtremegamrr3719 how can dinosaurs not exist we literally have bones of them that date millions of years ago
@@null4145 what if we put them in the wrong order?
dude, we know anatomy and we have lots of anatomy studies, the only thing we can put in the wrong order is really minor things, like a spike or a osteoderm
"How many animals had to fit on the ark?"
"Well technically the phrase 'kind' might mean that they only needed pairs of a family of animals not necessarily every species, then the species can propagate back out of those"
"so you're saying that the species were able to evolve from their families to repopulate themselves?"
"...wait shit"
No, there would still be too many animals aboard. There would only 4000 years for these kinds to evolve to all modern species, we can track back divergence through genetics, if we extrapolate back 4,000 years, most animals are near exactly the same as they already are, the numbers would remain about the same. In reality, species last for about 2 million years, some reaching up to 6 million years, such as some species in the Hyenadon genus. 4,000 years is simply to little of time for evolution to radically diversify these kinds, as the genetics bare out.
and incest
Their answer to that is it wasn't evolution but "adaptation". You can get them to agree with the process of evolution just as long as you don't use the e-word.
No, there’s a huge difference between macro and micro evolution.
@@tarzan622 What would that be?
Feeding the animals is another challenge.
Wouldn't want to be the one who has to scrub all the animal droppings away on Noah's ark. Would the seven or so people that the crew consisted of even be able to ever get rid of all the dung over the whole 150 day long journey?
They brought dung beetles
As an atheist God probably used magic IDK
Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe all of the animals were put to sleep.
The ark crashed on a mountain or sum to rot
that problem was solved by having only 1 small window, everything died from methane poisoning, so no one left to do the scrubbing
What about meat for lions,tigers, wolves, bears etc.? They would eat all the sheep and other creatures upon landfall and exiting the ark so trip would be pretty pointless. And the crew would die from all the methane...death by animal farts!!!
Really, extreme narcissistic speculative conjecture.
Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus can command them.
Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus could with a thought sustain them.
Intentionally ignoring God Almighty CREATED them, thus could induce a hibernational slumber.
“Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, **
“And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.”(Genesis 6:20,21 KJV)
“A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.”(Genesis 6:16 KJV)
There goes your methane theory out the literal window.
Cubit = 20.4 inches.
@@Vadixamil ikr
@@Vadixamil didn't ask g
@@jtfdfhtcddd3416, yeah, and, like anything you do or do not approve of has any power.
Correct, the interpretation that it was global with an ark that size has been debunked. The Mesopotamian flood in 2900 BCE is the likely historical kernel.
Tablets of the type used in Babylonian schools (where some ancient Hebrews were known to have studied) give the dimensions of the Ark, it was a 35 ton coracle. These tablets date from about a thousand years before the biblical nonsense was written.
This may have been a huge, but still local flood due to flood melt after the last ice age.
@@pineapplepenumbra the NCSE has an article "Yes, Noah's Flood May Have Happened, But Not Over the Whole Earth."
@@jimspace3000 That sounds interesting.
Of course it couldn't have been over the whole Earth for a number of reasons.
There's also the Epic of Gilgamesh, which I bet has been mentioned on this comments page a few times.
@@jimspace3000 but wouldn’t that sort of ruin the whole idea of what Noah’s ark was for. It was to wipe out humanity because they were wicked but if it was only a little local flood then people from all around the world wouldn’t have even known
The breaching of the Bosporus is more likely.
The Black sea would have filled up in just a few weeks.
Curious how big the Man at the end of the world's ark was from the epic of Gilgamesh - a story that predates the bible by 3000 years.
As much as I love these scientific breakdowns, at the end of the day if God actually exists, he literally could just solve every problem mentioned with his powers.
I see that if God actually existed would be like a Dungeon Master in D&D. Sure, he could fix all problems he created, but what's the fun in that?
you see earth isn’t heaven so there will be problems but it’s not hell so it’s not horrible
and we all have our own free will and the devil is the ruler of this world that’s why there’s so many problems
Good thing that that genocidal maniac is just a mythological fantasy tale.
What would be the point of having two lives then?
It’s simple: God gave Noah instructions to create a rudimentary TARDIS out of cypress wood and pitch.
Noah probably appropriated the design for the Ark from God…who was a child of color if you didn’t know
The wood used is an assumption. We don't know, the Hebrew word doesn't have a translation.
@@vashmatrix5769 assuming ANY wood was actually used in real life
Ferb Flynn Fleacher-British sci fi technology
The whole thing is a folk memory of the relatively rapid melting away of the glaciers at the end of the Great Ice Age...sea levels rose 300 feet or more...rivers would have been enormous...for people living in these regions, life became an adventure...
More like the Southern Ice Shelf Breaking Off causing Rapid Rise in Sea Level Plus a Giant Wave.
300 feet, yeah maybe. But not enough to cover the tops of all mountains as per the book.
Speaking of which how would anyone know all the mountains were covered without first knowing all their heights and knowing the depth of the flood?
@@AlDunbar I am not saying the book is correct, only that among many peoples around the world, who experienced a rise in water level such as followed the end of the Great Ice Age, there is your kernel of truth to the myth of a global flood...people embellished.
@@julianmarsh1378 I didn't think you believed the Noah story, but were just giving a possible reason that various ancient cultures developed a flood story. You may indeed be correct. I was just pointing out a difference between the Noah story and the apparent fact of a 300+ foot increase in sea level should anyone take away the idea that that event was Noah's flood.
Then how did this happen in 150 days?