Thankful that there are so many survivors but saddened for the families of those who were not so fortunate. Watching the footage, it looks to me that the pilots did the best they could to minimise the loss of lives.
Seems very obvious to me that it was hit with an aa missile. There's visible shrapnel damage where the hydraulics for the aircraft would be and you can see in the videos they were flying only with engine thrust to control the aircraft much like flight 232 in 1989.
I should note, i first found out about this crash from a flight tracker enthusiast that observed its erratic behavior like a paper plane going up n down several thousand feet for over an hour after they left Russian airspace that was btw, GPS jammed due to them conducting cruise missile launches on Ukraine. So there really couldn't be more evidence has to what happened here. If it had crashed in Russia, we probably would have nvr known... so at least we will have a proper investigation now.
Seems obvious hey? Where’s the smoke on its decent? Where’s the damage in the videos showing the planes crash moments before? Have you ever seen a plane/jet getting hit by AA defences?….. because if you have you’ll know that the aircraft would have been a lot more damaged than it was. The damage shown in the new (of the debris) could have easily been put there following the crash……. It’s just bullet/shrapnel sized holes
@@elliotstaley6032 Yes, its still very obvious especially now after I've seen more evidence. It was shot at in Russian airspace where they where in high alert due to drone strikes with air defenses equipped with small missiles that have a proximity fuse that explode in rectangular fragments that would leave those exact holes in the video (not all missiles explode on impact like in media). After this it flew over the sea for over an hour with leaking or no hydraulics at all has can be seen in the videos while it maneuvers with no surfaces moving or extended.
@@elliotstaley6032 Look up the 57E6 missile specifically, that was most likely the one used. In the video you can even see the hydraulics door open before landing.... not convinced yet?
1983: Russia shot down Korean Airlines 007 killing 269 people 😥 2014: Russia shot down flight MH-17 killing 298 people 😥. 2024: Russia shot down Flight J2-8243...
Thankful that there are so many survivors but saddened for the families of those who were not so fortunate. Watching the footage, it looks to me that the pilots did the best they could to minimise the loss of lives.
It was shot down. You can see the shrapnel damage to the tail. The oxygen masks are down because the cabin depresserized from shrapnel blast
Lmao hahahahha you’re ridiculous they were filming from inside the plane!!!!
@@lgroots8691Look at other videos, it shows the holes in the tail.
Seems very obvious to me that it was hit with an aa missile. There's visible shrapnel damage where the hydraulics for the aircraft would be and you can see in the videos they were flying only with engine thrust to control the aircraft much like flight 232 in 1989.
I should note, i first found out about this crash from a flight tracker enthusiast that observed its erratic behavior like a paper plane going up n down several thousand feet for over an hour after they left Russian airspace that was btw, GPS jammed due to them conducting cruise missile launches on Ukraine. So there really couldn't be more evidence has to what happened here. If it had crashed in Russia, we probably would have nvr known... so at least we will have a proper investigation now.
Seems obvious hey? Where’s the smoke on its decent? Where’s the damage in the videos showing the planes crash moments before? Have you ever seen a plane/jet getting hit by AA defences?….. because if you have you’ll know that the aircraft would have been a lot more damaged than it was. The damage shown in the new (of the debris) could have easily been put there following the crash……. It’s just bullet/shrapnel sized holes
@@elliotstaley6032 Yes, its still very obvious especially now after I've seen more evidence. It was shot at in Russian airspace where they where in high alert due to drone strikes with air defenses equipped with small missiles that have a proximity fuse that explode in rectangular fragments that would leave those exact holes in the video (not all missiles explode on impact like in media). After this it flew over the sea for over an hour with leaking or no hydraulics at all has can be seen in the videos while it maneuvers with no surfaces moving or extended.
@@elliotstaley6032 Look up the 57E6 missile specifically, that was most likely the one used. In the video you can even see the hydraulics door open before landing.... not convinced yet?
That’s it. I can’t watch any more negativity. This isn’t healthy for anyone. Not saying don’t care about these people but don’t watch any of this.
God Bless every survivors with a speech record 🙏🙏🙏
another MH17?
1983: Russia shot down Korean Airlines 007 killing 269 people 😥 2014: Russia shot down flight MH-17 killing 298 people 😥. 2024: Russia shot down Flight J2-8243...
What a way to end the year of 2024 for aviation.
No rudder control looks like Russian air defense
Why should any rudder control look like air defense? It makes no sense.
No it's not an outstanding question if you're not supposed to speculate. What da?!. Such a sad day...
Ruzzia shot down another civilian plane.
🙏🙏
Think, people. Think. Why are all the news outlets so preoccupied with a plane crash in Kazakhstan? Why the distraction?
Because it’s news? Because people survived a horrific plane crash caught on film?? It’s not a conspiracy.. nor is it rocket science..
Dunno why??
Is that you PooTin?
Is that you Putin?
@@akasgsvirgil9503 “distraction” 🤣🤣🤣 Distraction from what? Nvm, you won’t say.
Let's wait for the CVR & flight data.
Kto eto sovershil, vsem yasno. Eto te lyudi kotoriye vovsyem mire sozdayut voini.
100% ruzzian nazi
русские?
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