My Student Gained 200 FEET...What can we Learn From Cola
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I remember Uli saying this on Instagram where he talked about the leg going before the arm when you get to that next level. Way to go Cola!
Interesting. I’ll have to look into that
I really don't understand the animosity Overthrow and some other youtubers have towards this channel, calling you out by name, and then the comment section on their videos getting a bit nasty. I think you guys fulfill different gaps in the disc golf marketplace of ideas, like their focus is on beginner all around game while yours is pushing through distance barriers if I had to classify them...which both have their place. Would love to know where this relationship across the internet went awry lol...
I do appreciate how you show off your students, all things being equal, it shows you care and shows ultimately performance gains, which if you're in that charging money for lessons space, you better ultimately get performance improvements and this is the kind of stuff that proves it.
It’s jealousy and insecurity
Wrong guys. I guess you didn't pay attention to Josh videos. He saying slingshot method can be very dangerous because all the twisted joints and so on. No pro is doing what coach t does. I know he likes to say they are but there not. Josh has had many pros on his channel and has gotten a ton of info from them. How come slingshot can't get pros to validate his form like OT does. Discgolf backhand should be effortless when done correctly. But this channel makes it seem like an exercise. I like coach t and do agree with a few of his concepts.
@@ciromassa7322 my dude I did pay attention, I made no value proposition about the quality or qualifications of either channel. I’m wondering why this has been bubbling under the surface for months and months now, and is beginning to bubble over…I’m also not a person who follows someone just cause they’re a better marketer. You’ll fall into so many potholes in life if that’s your barometer.
But if you want me to…If you want to talk quali’s I do think josh who admittedly is the mid arm of his entourage throwing around 400 and golf shot 350, it’s weird he’s the coach when he has a 500ft arm behind the camera. Shouldn’t his camera guy be the guy? I appreciate this channel even if he doesn’t have every aspect of it correct approaching from an athlete’s perspective who is seeking to break through those distance barriers, and the video like above, while wholly and totally should be about the performance this kid can now throw, which is almost double his OT coach can do, it somehow isn’t because of the wider context. Slingshot I fully admit has a slight hole (from his public RUclips videos) in that brace and heel turn. His model is McBeth though who doesn’t do things unnecessarily that might injure himself so it’s on par, no more dangerous than anything else in disc golf and anyone else is doing.
A different idea or approach isn’t bad, it’s often good even if not totally correct because now you have an opinion that’s informed, particularly if you’ve tried any of their ideas, and that different philosophy may unlock something you didn’t understand before.
Bracing is important, Simon may literally be one of the best if not the best in the world at that perfect heel turn…It is the last link in a chain of mechanics that can take months or years to master that turns forward and rotational momentum into the flight of the disc and if you suck at it, it doesn’t matter how good anything else before it is. But calling people out that their method is going to get people hurt while you kiiiiind of butcher their ideas and your fans call them scammers in the comments is a bit crazy. It’s a different perspective and frankly it’s needed cause not everyone responds to the same ideas.
@@ciromassa7322 as one of Josh’s former students I can tell you his method is much more dangerous. I was always hurt. I made the switch and no injuries yet.
Pros go to Josh because he pays them. And how many pros that take his instruction actually get better? They seem to get worse.
Wow he’s a very athletic special boy. Im still stuck at 100 feet because of my dog bite injuries, but am getting my prosthetic fingers installed soon. coca cola and sling shots for every one.
Thank you Coach T for all that you do! I would not be where I am today if it wasn’t for you!
Hey cola! I played with you at Emerald Hills! Funny to see you on this video 😂 awesome to see your form broken down though. You’re definitely a crusher
@@derekchessik2739 haha awesome!
Keep pumping em out there bro! You're gonna be a next level pro soon.
You’re a beast dude keep it up! Seen you out there at a couple tourneys now, you’ve got the stuff!!
For what it's worth, truly pulling a lawn mower string isn't powered by the arm, it's powered by the legs, just like in disc golf.
I have a riding lawnmower 😂
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 i do agree it gives people the idea to "throw" their elbow rather than drive from the legs. Love your work dude!
Gives me hope 🙏🏻
Weight loss journey is complete. Now onto the disc golf goal and journey for more consistent distance 😃
Great progress Cola! Love watching you throw.
leg before arm thank you for that!
Good job cola!
reminds me of Simons form in a way.
If the pros weren’t using their back leg there would be no need to be on the ball of their foot and their heel would be on the ground not up
That’s a great point
Of course pros use back leg but not the way it's taught here. Watch any pro and u will c that the arm doesn't move until there's 100% weight on front leg. Once the weight transfers to the front back leg is no longer needed. That's exactly what Cola is doing by the way.
@@ciromassa7322I’m pushing off my back leg while still coiling, then bringing in my left arm and oblique to fire and therefore slingshotting my arm and the disc
@@ciromassa7322bro, unless you actually throw this style, I guarantee you don't know what you're talking about.
Cuz moving that back knee in is Cola beginning to uncoil starting from his back foot and moving up the chain.
Hamstrings, glutes, obliques, lats, traps, its all being activated during the uncoil.
Cola is my hero 😍😍
Me too!
Hahaha thanks Bailey
Damn man my form looks just like first one. Where do I start?
Slinghotdiscgolf.com
Great video coach! This is turning into a west coast vs east coast, even both you and josh styles could be compared to 2pac and biggie. You both should lean into it and do a collaboration in costume with a distance competition at the end😂😎
overthrow disc golf is really drinking that right arm is faster and comes in before the body kool aid from coach chris taylor. Going to set a lot of players back.
Because of Josh’s coaching and some of Chris Taylor’s tips I recently threw 71mph which is a personal best. I tell you what… I really feel “set back” 😂
I would be interested in seeing a video to see how hard you have to try. I've done both and the difference with Slingshot is that the arm speed is effortless. When I tried using the arm and planting first I could still throw but I got a lot of front knee and hip pain
mobofone is the videographer for OT. Funnily enough he has a crazy good back leg drive from his recent video.@@tonyriedel4421
…..it does. That’s how the disc is able to come out. The hand comes through after the brace faster than the body. It literally can’t even release unless this is the case. Slingshot won’t even address basic criticism of his teachings. Even in this video he claims Eagle is moving his back leg first when it’s his entire body that’s moving forward. The back leg is transferring momentum, not creating it. It’s simply wrong
@@andrewjung6987 Actually I think this will be a good comment to make a video on. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching.
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so, I sit here all day and watch videos like this and I'm like ok yeah that makes sense... and then i try to do this out in the field and I just CAN NOT get it down. somebody in the greater harrisburg area PLEASE help me :'(
You can watch all the videos you want truth is you ALSO need 100s if not thousands of hours doing the techniques. Commit to throwing into a net 30 min 4 days a week and watch your progress change
@@seeballgetball937 I do field work all the time, as already stated, but I just can not get it to translate. Been hard stuck around 300 ft since I started playing 2 years ago
There’s a calisthenic nature to it which takes months to build the strength and flexibility. Best way I can describe it is a one legged wall sit and when you let your muscles release your body naturally gets into the right positions.
@@CherryB0mb333 I’ll definitely give this a try! I appreciate the feedback!
You have to break it down into smaller pieces and work on actually feeling out what your body is doing, not just doing the motion.
Similar to what the other guy said, but from a weightlifting background, I wouldn't have picked up much from these videos if I didn't have an understanding of the "mind muscle connection" we use in weight lifting and could feel which muscle groups should stretch and contract throughout different parts of the movement.
And similar to weight lifting, it's starting off slow and with light weights that allow you to consciously reinforce muscle activation for certain movements as second nature.
Just the idea, of using your non dominant leg (back leg) to begin any athletic movement or be the driving force for power is something that's gonna fall on so many deaf ears because they've never called on that leg to do anything before... so other muscle groups will be activated to compensate for a weakness.
Back to weight lifting... it's the same reason you'll see guys doing side lateral delt raises, and be working out their Traps instead of their deltoids 😂
Wow thanks for the video I thought I’ve been using my legs but my max distance only 420 ish imma have to try to film my throw and see if I use my back leg at all
I've seen Cola throwing in person it's ridiculous
Played with cola at jr worlds dudes a beast and one of the nicest people I met at worlds!
Thanks man! I enjoyed playing with you, hope to meet again soon!
Heads up you can find Cola in the wild in Concord California at Hillcrest or Walden Park Walnut Creek. He is a gentle giant
Great job Cola!
Nice job Cola and coach T 🔥
Nice person too!
Awesome!
My knees are really hindering me from learning these techniques.
Yes I would not use my technique if your knees are bad. In fact, I would consult a physical therapist first.
Because these techniques gets your knees and lower back broken. Slingshots for everybody!
Stuck at 350’? I’d LOVE to be stuck at 350’.
im stuck at 50...
No coaches say start with the arm. As usual a total strawman argument.
Overthrow is now saying that with the deep pocket. Back to the beato drill and using the arm which leads to shoulder pain and not being able to throw far.
@@tonyriedel4421 Wrong. Deep pocket does not mean you should start the “pull” before the front foot is down and you are braced. He does NOT teach that.
He DOES teach deep pocket because deep pocket is correct form. Anyone not teaching deep pocket is wrong.
Thanks but no thanks, I listen to the guy who got his student to 600+ over the teacher who is too afraid to show his own throw in his videos
@@zackp6794”AnYbOdY tHaT dOeSn’T aGrEe WiTh Me Is WrOnG” thank you mr strawman