Intel indicates that Karl is running his Norweigian Kar98k-F2 + Zf41 in a match this week and will have a video on it running short range on his channel... soon.
I had a hard cover book on the K98K once until I gave it to a friend of mine for his K98K. On the chapter on scopes and accessories. It showed field armorers mounting the K98K on the Laffette machinegun tripod. The rifle was mounted with a vise to the fore end and the same with the rear butt stock. The legs were heavily sandbagged. If the rifle was properly zeroed on it's battle sights, the rifle would be moved using the tripod's traversing and elevation mechanism to the target with the proper sight picture by the shooter. Then the rifle would be zeroed from there with the shooter aiming and the armorer out use the two pins to move the stadia with the guidance of the shooter. This was the field expedient method for field armorers to re-zero these rifles using the ZF41s. These rifles would get knocked about in combat and would knock their zero occasionally.
I guess the engineers thought the twin eccentrics were more rugged. I'm sure someone who zeroed them on a regular basis would be much more efficient but it's certainly not a very intuitive mechanism.
That's such an excessively stupid idea it could only have been devised by the Krauts. Compare to the Mosin PU zero procedure: >Fire round >Take previous hold, adjust reticle onto impact >Done. Win War.
@@SRR-5657 literally the only thing the commies did "better" than the Germans was their sheer number of soldiers and complete disregard for human life. That's it.
@@hermanlai6035 No ordinary bolt gun. This is the German Kar98k with ,no doubt, full power loads. Anyone not used to it will most likely not enjoy the Magnum like recoil.
@@Patriotusa44 I was wondering about that. No recoil pad and shooting prone can send the recoil right into the bone. Standing, you can put the butt plate on a little more muscle. It will get tender but straight into the bone can ruin your day.
I kept seeing the same thing as I saw it smack those targets. Can you imagine getting nailed by a few hundred of these bastards coming out of an MG42!? Fuuuuuck that.
this reminds me of a funny story, a buddy and I where shooting at steel gongs from 100 to 600 yards, we where shooing AR's, I got out my K-98 with a repop scope like in the video, jacked in some 198gr surplus FMJ's, shot the 100 swing swinging the plate wildly, then the 150 with a resounding slap, then to the 200 that was on a portable stand I hit it centered and the momentum of the plate knocked the stand over. my buddy had been shooting the 200yd plate, when he said where did the plate go? I said I knocked it over. he asked "what the hell are you shooting?" I said my 8x57 k98, he simply replied "animal, now go set it back up" very good video! and thanks to Carl for the sight in hints for this scope.
I brought my 24/47 to the range and broke like 3 steel targets. They didnt mind they said it happens all the time and they'd fix them at the end of the day. Looking back i guess 8mm mauser is a bit too powerful for those targets
I like how he said he doesn't know exactly what he was doing, he just does it in the moment. That's a sign of someone that's developed muscle memory and is a true professional. There are similarities to flying helicopters, when you get good at hovering... You just do it. You don't have to think about every movement.
I f'n love the collaborations and cameos on this channel. This is exactly what GunTube needs. Great job, as always, guys! I remember back when you had less than 5k subs thinking I had found a hidden gem. haha
19:22 I love that even when the bolt was closed and chamber was clear the whole time, when he receives the weapon, he opens the bolt. There's a charm to instinctive weapons safety practices.
The round jumping out was caused by not fully pushing the rounds in the magazine. As the stripper clip was kicked out, the round was still attached to it. Also, K98k feeds from the magazine, thumbing one into the chamber will cause unecessary strain on the extractor, unless the bolt is fitted with a special beveled extractor.
Winced a little when I saw him close the bolt on the chambered round. You can see he really had to force the bolt closed also, probably from the extractor having to jump over the case "rim".
@@moistjohn I know a Californian owns a Walther WA2000 and had it modified to Californian standards. They should have sold it as it is ruined forever now.
I don't know why these videos are so entertaining, but they are. I must be the great chemistry you guys share, your humor, the beautiful selection of firearms, your incredible marksmanship, your knowledge and the wonderful followup discussions.
@@rslover65 In fact Jeff Cooper did mention in one class I had the privilege to have him as an instructor, one of his last ones by the way in 1982 or '83, that the Scout Rifle Concept had not been his idea but rather that he had pushed the ball a little further in the right direction. Don't remember his exacts words because this was a LONG time ago but I'm sure he had known of this Z-41 scope, it's use in WWII and had probably toyed a little with one himself after the war... Jeff Cooper was a great gentleman and I for one got hooked on the .40" after his work on the .40"G&A rendition of Mr Browning's 9.8mmACP. But that's still another story.
I am now hooked on your channel and have subscribed. Thank you for shooting these old historic rifles. I have a Lee Enfield 4 Mark 1, Long Branch made in 1950 that I have a scope mount for and I've thought about turning it into a sniper but have been on the fence about it. Watching this video makes me realize 2 things: Trying to create an accurate reproduction sniper rifle is a lot of work and may be more headache than I'm willing to accept. The other is how impressed I am with the old snipers being able to do what they did with crappy technology back then. Makes me glad I bought my Savage 110 Tactical with my 6-18 modern scope. 7 rounds and she is .5 MOA. Good to go!
Gentlemen, I think you're all missing the REAL winner of the actions. May I present to you, the P14 and M1917 Enfield. It uses the Mauser type Extractor and locking lugs, a cock on closing bolt and a little known feature of the 1903 Springfield: a camming surface near the bolt handle that aids in primary extraction of the fired case, rather than the cam forward on the reciever method the Mauser uses. That surface being on the bolt handle makes it far easier to unlock and extract an expanded case. Extraction cam force is from the bolt handle cam surface applied to the back of the rear receiver ring on opening.
I’ve been running a Scout rifle for 20 years and took it on a hunting trip to South Africa two years ago. Though I will never sell mine I do think the concept is now obsolescent. I have drifted from Coopers concept by fitting a Vortex 2-7. The only advantages I can see to the Scout rifle are the handiness of the short barrel, balance and charger reloading. The last has been largely negated by more modern bolt actions with detachable magazines. Having said that I prefer a fixed magazine for hunting. Having said that, on a recent In Range Q@A Karl mentioned that Ian is finding the Steve Scout very satisfactory.
Growing up I used an 8mm Mauser as my main whitetail hunting rifle. Never ever had a deer even take a step after being hit, they all went down right where they were standing. No tracking required.
You know you guy's bring up a major question of mine and that's to do with the eye relief on the ACOG, you would figure that by now Trijicon would find a better solution to extending the eye relief by at least 5 extra inches, but like my Grandpa always said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Great Vid as always guys👍👍
That's a good point. I've kind of had a similar thought. Like you said I'm guessing part of it is not fixing something that isn't broke. Probly also has to do with not wanting to go back through testing and field trials since I'm guessing so significant changes would have to be made.
Even with the ZF41, I wouldn't expect the M1 Carbine to hit past 350 yards. Cartridge wasn't really made to go beyond that range. But hey, it would make for an interesting excercise!
@@Anino_Makata Yeah, you might get a better sight picture with the scope at long range but really I think the advantage compared to the M1 aperture irons is much less significant than comparing the glass to the k98 with the barley-corn/v-notch. Plus it's not like Henry can't shred with irons at long range anyway.
According to a book written about an Eastern Front sniper they would acquire a Soviet sniper rifle as quickly as possible along with as much of the quality Russian ammo as they could.
Taking a Mauser out for hunting is a really good idea. My father has a Blaser R93 in 8x57. It has enough power to knock down a 400 pound red stag. Countless wildboar, red deer and roe deer died to it. And recoil is actually not that bad, comparable to a '06. Really a beautiful cartridge.
Long eye relief scopes with small apertures always gave me a headache so bravo for actually hitting stuff with this setup. You know what would be fun to see? Anything in 45-70. Seeing how it preforms at 500 yds would be interesting.
I just discovered this channel and am thoroughly enjoying the combination of information/education and range time. I especially appreciate the sight picture shots that every episode has. Meanwhile... @ 18:12 I know German and Soviet snipers used extra-lethal explosive rounds, but this sniper seems to be taking it to another level with that rifle grenade :P
this video does a good job at showing just how much nuts something like 8mm has. The way it threw that 350 yard plate was kinda wild... cant imagine fighting against something that is shooting those things a 700-1300 rounds per minute, let alone more than 1 of them
10:50 I HIGHLY disagree with this statement. the United States was the only country to enter the war with a semi automatic rifle as standard issue for the army. Now, the marines started with mostly M1903 Springfields, but that's a story for a different day. Other countries TRIED to push semi automatic rifles into service, but they were never the standard. You were lucky to get one at that point. Here's a list of guns made and you'll see the discrepancy. Bolt action Gewehr k98 (German issue): 14,600,000+ Mosin Nagant M91/30: 16,000,000+ (speculative, as 91/30s were made from old M91s and brought up to spec or made new.) No.4 Lee-Enfield: 4,000,000 Type 99: 3,500,000 Semi Auto M1: 5,468,772 SVT-40: 1,600,000 Gewehr 41: 145,000 Gewehr 43: 402,713 As you can see, Germany had the right idea in using the optic on their standard issue K98 rifle for the designated marksman's role. Especially put into the context of early war.
In WW2 the std. K98 was expected to shoot 3 out of 5 shots in a 2.8x4.1 MOA group, and 5 out of 5 shots in a 4.1 MOA group at 100 m as the minimum requirement, which is actually very good for a rifle produced in the many millions, as the higher the production number the higher the minimum accuracy requirement also has to be in order to avoid substantial number of rejections. For comparison the minimum accuracy requirement for the US std. service rifle, the M1 Garand was 5 MOA, and for the British Lee Enfield No.4 it was 4.5 MOA. So basically the minimum accuracy requirement was the same for these three nations std. service rifles, with the one exception being that the Germans required less horizontal dispersion -> which makes sense with such a heavy projectile.
It would be interesting to see how the 98 would stack up against the 03A3 if it had been given a set of aperture sights. Did any of the nations that adopted the Mauser implement a superior sighting system to the Germans?
Given that the Germans said they weren't particularly accurate on average, whereas 1903's were held to 3 MOA at the factory as a minimum standard, probably not very well on average ;) ruclips.net/video/S7eQT9LeVeE/видео.html
Bloke on the Range how dare you criticize the accuracy of the K98k??? Next thing you‘re going to tell me the Germans even remarked in ww1 on the superior accuracy of French rifles compared to the Gewehr 98!
@@BlokeontheRange What is going on here!?! First Karl collaborates, then a Ian cameo Easter egg, now comments from Bloke. 9-Hole review keeps pretty good company. We just need Othias to stop by...
11:20 M1A1 Carbine with German ZF-41 scope 1.5x Item 13. M1A1 Carbine presented to Major General Sir Colin Gubbins after the war by members of the Norwegian Resistance. In 1940, Gubbins had commanded the "Independent Companies" -- a forerunner to the Commandos --in Norway. Later he oversaw the succesful raid on the Vemork heavy water plant in 1943. (from the Museum notes)
Speaking of the M1 Carbine, I had one with a 1.5-4.5X Weaver scope. I could snipe pigeons, feral cats, etc at 100 yards with no difficulty using Remington or Winchester 110 gr sp/hp ammo. I imagine the Norwegian resistance made life miserable for Nazis out to 300 yards.
The snipers did in fact hate the ZF-41 scope. In the book "Sniper on the Eastern Front", there was a part where a Wehrmacht war artist was sketching a German sniper armed with a K98 that had a ZF-41 scope on and sniper "Josef Roth said "There's no point in painting that thing, you can't see anything through it." in regards to the ZF-41 on the rifle.
Outstanding shooting with that little scope, worst one used in WW2, your a RIFLEMAN no doubt to achieve this level of hits at long distances with that optic.
I'd like to see a Close range practical accuracy done on it. .30 carbine isn't going to be worth a damn past 300yds. Hitting that 500yd gong will be a nightmare, and that's if it moves enough for Josh to call.
I have a 98K sniper with the high turret Zf-39 scope unfortunately it will not hold zero. The sights on the 98K look like an after thought like Mauser went to bed a woke up and said Oh I forgot the sight and jumped out of bed and hurried to the shop and stuck the first thing he saw on as the sight. If the 98K had even had the sights of an Enfield No-3.MK.1 it would a vast improvement. I still love them the 7.92X57 is an excellent round. At the time the Germans invaded Russian they found the Russians were very advanced in sniping and Germany had to play catch up. About 45 years ago I had a 98K with the Zf-41 scope on it and it was a pain to try to zero I didn't have the tool you need to do it and I foolishly sold it. All the reproduction scope like the Zf-41 the Zf-39 and the T-32 Enfield scope are expensive junk. The best sniper rifle of WW-2 in my view was the Enfield with the T-32 scope. .
Kar 98k. Pull the scope, go irons. The 10-15 min saved will be critical. If traveling by ski, unless its snowing will be super easy to track meaning you need to get out as far ahead as possible.
I often hunt with a Jerghans & Kreigskorte drilling in 16ga x 16ga over 8x57JR (rimmed 8mm Mauser), and hoo boi that 197gn pill with a load that is regulated to the sights is about too much for out lil' eastern deer lol.
I cringe every time I see someone take a K98 and shove a single round on top of the follower and shove the round into the chamber, thinking the K98 is a push feed rifle like a Remington 700. See it @ 4:56.
@@DewaKrishna_ K-98 is a "Controlled Feed" action. it requires the ammo to be fed from the magazine because as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the rim of the cartridge base is fed up under the extractor on the bolt, giving positive feeding. If you place a a cartridge on the magazine follower in a K98 action, you will cause a jam because that is NOT how the action was designed. If you need more information, look up "controlled feed bolt actions and "push feed" bolt actions.
Actually, while it would make sense that German cameramen could not cover snipers in battle (Think about it, would you want one following you while you are trying to remain unseen?), German cameramen spent a great deal of time in combat zones where many were wounded, captured, or killed. Johannes Hähle for example was wounded on the Eastern front and died not long after D-Day in the fighting in Normandy. Cameramen also went out on U-boats, E-boats, and in bombers. If you go to the Bundesarchiv you'll see that they left a remarkable record of combat, even though much of what they captured was destroyed in bombings, etc. As for the ZF-41 not being popular with snipers, well go figure, nobody is happy when they are given a tool that is not meant for their job. Personally, I think it is great for accurrate snap shooting. They were meant to do things like take off the head of the machinegunner who has your squad pinned down, or hit the guy firing through a bunker window. Small targets not too far away. They did what they were designed to do.
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"I have a lot of ammo"
Henry stop flexing on us
Them explaining how to zero that optic gives me more respect for the troops that actually used it on the field. Great video as always!
Show's you why they lost the war.
While they were fighting to zero their scopes with chop sticks, we were dropping nukes on entire cities.
@@calholli I hope this is satyre
Dont do too much, they were still nazis
@@calholli And the Russians were spamming 5000 T-34s per month from the Urals
German soldiers were ordered NOT to touch the ZF-41 when it came to adjusting it since how complicated it was.
Intel indicates that Karl is running his Norweigian Kar98k-F2 + Zf41 in a match this week and will have a video on it running short range on his channel... soon.
I really like mauser guns and I'm currently working on the kar98k
Karl is a satanic loser as well as an idiot. Go watch his forward assist video. He isn't an expert on any topic.
@@android61242 Awww, you're so sweet.
He is freaking fast on a bolt action too.
InRangeTV I’m just here to read inranges responses lol
I had a hard cover book on the K98K once until I gave it to a friend of mine for his K98K. On the chapter on scopes and accessories. It showed field armorers mounting the K98K on the Laffette machinegun tripod. The rifle was mounted with a vise to the fore end and the same with the rear butt stock. The legs were heavily sandbagged. If the rifle was properly zeroed on it's battle sights, the rifle would be moved using the tripod's traversing and elevation mechanism to the target with the proper sight picture by the shooter. Then the rifle would be zeroed from there with the shooter aiming and the armorer out use the two pins to move the stadia with the guidance of the shooter. This was the field expedient method for field armorers to re-zero these rifles using the ZF41s. These rifles would get knocked about in combat and would knock their zero occasionally.
I guess the engineers thought the twin eccentrics were more rugged. I'm sure someone who zeroed them on a regular basis would be much more efficient but it's certainly not a very intuitive mechanism.
What was it called?
That's such an excessively stupid idea it could only have been devised by the Krauts. Compare to the Mosin PU zero procedure:
>Fire round
>Take previous hold, adjust reticle onto impact
>Done. Win War.
@@SRR-5657 literally the only thing the commies did "better" than the Germans was their sheer number of soldiers and complete disregard for human life.
That's it.
Man this thing smacks with authority jesus christ
242 rounds to zero jesus christ. I would love to see that video and that sheer aggravation.
242 with a bolt gun too lmao
@@hermanlai6035 No ordinary bolt gun. This is the German Kar98k with ,no doubt, full power loads. Anyone not used to it will most likely not enjoy the Magnum like recoil.
@@Patriotusa44 someone's shoulder is gonna be real sore and bruised
@@hermanlai6035 The mind is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
@@Patriotusa44 I was wondering about that. No recoil pad and shooting prone can send the recoil right into the bone. Standing, you can put the butt plate on a little more muscle. It will get tender but straight into the bone can ruin your day.
That is a better sight picture than I expected
3:45 A quiet "Jesus" as he sees the target writhing in pain from the mighty 8mm
He said it like 30 seconds earlier but quieter too lmao
Jesus can also be seen at 9:35
I kept seeing the same thing as I saw it smack those targets. Can you imagine getting nailed by a few hundred of these bastards coming out of an MG42!? Fuuuuuck that.
8mm-06' is seriously underrated hunting round
this reminds me of a funny story, a buddy and I where shooting at steel gongs from 100 to 600 yards, we where shooing AR's, I got out my K-98 with a repop scope like in the video, jacked in some 198gr surplus FMJ's, shot the 100 swing swinging the plate wildly, then the 150 with a resounding slap, then to the 200 that was on a portable stand I hit it centered and the momentum of the plate knocked the stand over. my buddy had been shooting the 200yd plate, when he said where did the plate go? I said I knocked it over. he asked "what the hell are you shooting?" I said my 8x57 k98, he simply replied "animal, now go set it back up"
very good video! and thanks to Carl for the sight in hints for this scope.
That big boy hit like a truck. I was curious about this load trough longer barrels WW1 Gewehr 98
I brought my 24/47 to the range and broke like 3 steel targets. They didnt mind they said it happens all the time and they'd fix them at the end of the day. Looking back i guess 8mm mauser is a bit too powerful for those targets
@@Legitpenguins99 Haha, yeah I broke my buddies homemade steel target with his 8mm Mauser. That round does hit hard !
I like the 8x57IS. Softer recoil than the 30-06 but the same punch.
I like how he said he doesn't know exactly what he was doing, he just does it in the moment. That's a sign of someone that's developed muscle memory and is a true professional. There are similarities to flying helicopters, when you get good at hovering... You just do it. You don't have to think about every movement.
I f'n love the collaborations and cameos on this channel. This is exactly what GunTube needs. Great job, as always, guys! I remember back when you had less than 5k subs thinking I had found a hidden gem. haha
19:22 I love that even when the bolt was closed and chamber was clear the whole time, when he receives the weapon, he opens the bolt. There's a charm to instinctive weapons safety practices.
The round jumping out was caused by not fully pushing the rounds in the magazine. As the stripper clip was kicked out, the round was still attached to it. Also, K98k feeds from the magazine, thumbing one into the chamber will cause unecessary strain on the extractor, unless the bolt is fitted with a special beveled extractor.
I came here to say that
@@sionsoschwalts2762 as did I
Winced a little when I saw him close the bolt on the chambered round. You can see he really had to force the bolt closed also, probably from the extractor having to jump over the case "rim".
हिन्दी भाषा में लिख दो इस राईफल की गोली कितने मिटर दूर जाती है
This isn't helping my obsession with WW2 weapons..... Great video as always!
This is an amazing review and insight from Karl at InRange. Great transitions to the the history.
Another great video with nice collab with InRangeTV. Love practicality mixed with history. Great content.
A Steyr Scout would be fine to see on the range one time . Or a,Walther WA2000
Or a Norwegian Krag 6,5mm
good luck on obtaining the walther... tho they have gotten other unobtanium before.
@@moistjohn I bet that if they asked nicely, they could get one from the guy that loaned the WA2000 to Forgotten Weapons.
@@moistjohn If he keeps working with Ian and Karl i'd love to see the WA2000 vs SVD again
@@moistjohn I know a Californian owns a Walther WA2000 and had it modified to Californian standards. They should have sold it as it is ruined forever now.
I don't know why these videos are so entertaining, but they are. I must be the great chemistry you guys share, your humor, the beautiful selection of firearms, your incredible marksmanship, your knowledge and the wonderful followup discussions.
9:45 french sentry enters stage left!
Y’all need to try a Springfield 03 with correct period American optics, unertl?
Then the wild hybrid 8mm-06'
So Jeff Cooper's scout rifle idea was not the first LOL. Excellent shooting as always!
Necessity is the mother of Invention.
No, but Cooper would certainly have taken credit for it.
@@rslover65 In fact Jeff Cooper did mention in one class I had the privilege to have him as an instructor, one of his last ones by the way in 1982 or '83, that the Scout Rifle Concept had not been his idea but rather that he had pushed the ball a little further in the right direction. Don't remember his exacts words because this was a LONG time ago but I'm sure he had known of this Z-41 scope, it's use in WWII and had probably toyed a little with one himself after the war...
Jeff Cooper was a great gentleman and I for one got hooked on the .40" after his work on the .40"G&A rendition of Mr Browning's 9.8mmACP. But that's still another story.
@@joedeleon1189 cooper actually got the idea from Winchester 94s fitted with LER scopes.
I am now hooked on your channel and have subscribed. Thank you for shooting these old historic rifles. I have a Lee Enfield 4 Mark 1, Long Branch made in 1950 that I have a scope mount for and I've thought about turning it into a sniper but have been on the fence about it. Watching this video makes me realize 2 things: Trying to create an accurate reproduction sniper rifle is a lot of work and may be more headache than I'm willing to accept. The other is how impressed I am with the old snipers being able to do what they did with crappy technology back then. Makes me glad I bought my Savage 110 Tactical with my 6-18 modern scope. 7 rounds and she is .5 MOA. Good to go!
"In a world where the M1 Garand exists, why are you running a bolt?" I laughed out loud!
So sad that he passed away.. think about it all the knowledge we missed out on and that is now missing from the world :(
Who passed away?
@@kromegal_xe6594 16:21
Who died?
@@notafeddeffinetlynotafed1603 watch the video from 16:21
9:40 the majestic Gun Jesus in the wild
If it's not Lebel, Berthier, Chauchat then it's not Gun Jesus Himself.
One of the finest actions ever made.
m98 is better tbh
oMG really???
Gentlemen, I think you're all missing the REAL winner of the actions. May I present to you, the P14 and M1917 Enfield. It uses the Mauser type Extractor and locking lugs, a cock on closing bolt and a little known feature of the 1903 Springfield: a camming surface near the bolt handle that aids in primary extraction of the fired case, rather than the cam forward on the reciever method the Mauser uses. That surface being on the bolt handle makes it far easier to unlock and extract an expanded case.
Extraction cam force is from the bolt handle cam surface applied to the back of the rear receiver ring on opening.
@@shockwave6213 rimlock makes the enfield lose to me.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 A Non-issue that only plagues those that can't comprehend how to properly run their rifle...
Awesome video! Very informative! I love that 8mm!!
That zeroing process....makes me appreciate the gear we have today
I’ve been running a Scout rifle for 20 years and took it on a hunting trip to South Africa two years ago. Though I will never sell mine I do think the concept is now obsolescent. I have drifted from Coopers concept by fitting a Vortex 2-7. The only advantages I can see to the Scout rifle are the handiness of the short barrel, balance and charger reloading. The last has been largely negated by more modern bolt actions with detachable magazines. Having said that I prefer a fixed magazine for hunting. Having said that, on a recent In Range Q@A Karl mentioned that Ian is finding the Steve Scout very satisfactory.
Been waiting all day to get home from so i could watch this video ! Thank you guy's for the great videos !!!!!
Over all. Thank you guys for all the work you have put into this channel and the content you produce.
Excellent video 98 one of the favorite of WWII, let’s see Springfield 1903, or a Arisaka Type 99 taken out to the range.
Very interesting stuff. I'm kinda obsessed with K98 sniper rifles!! Thank you!
If you wanted the best, you bought German
@@Luis-be9mi You spelled Swedish wrong, haha
Growing up I used an 8mm Mauser as my main whitetail hunting rifle. Never ever had a deer even take a step after being hit, they all went down right where they were standing. No tracking required.
You know you guy's bring up a major question of mine and that's to do with the eye relief on the ACOG, you would figure that by now Trijicon would find a better solution to extending the eye relief by at least 5 extra inches, but like my Grandpa always said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Great Vid as always guys👍👍
That's a good point. I've kind of had a similar thought. Like you said I'm guessing part of it is not fixing something that isn't broke. Probly also has to do with not wanting to go back through testing and field trials since I'm guessing so significant changes would have to be made.
Well, now you gotta test the M1 carbine with a Zf41...
Seconded
Even with the ZF41, I wouldn't expect the M1 Carbine to hit past 350 yards. Cartridge wasn't really made to go beyond that range. But hey, it would make for an interesting excercise!
@@Anino_Makata I think the more interesting prospect would be the speed comparison between irons and the Zf rather than the accuracy
@@colbunkmust Ah, so it would be a better candidate for the Close Range Practical Accuracy course. Would like to see Josh rip with both setups.
@@Anino_Makata Yeah, you might get a better sight picture with the scope at long range but really I think the advantage compared to the M1 aperture irons is much less significant than comparing the glass to the k98 with the barley-corn/v-notch. Plus it's not like Henry can't shred with irons at long range anyway.
This is my favorite of your videos
According to a book written about an Eastern Front sniper they would acquire a Soviet sniper rifle as quickly as possible along with as much of the quality Russian ammo as they could.
Well done experiment with informative results. Thank you.
THIS SCOPE ISN'T APPLICABLE FOR SNIPING OUT AT 500 M. Henry: Hold my beer! :)
Taking a Mauser out for hunting is a really good idea. My father has a Blaser R93 in 8x57. It has enough power to knock down a 400 pound red stag. Countless wildboar, red deer and roe deer died to it. And recoil is actually not that bad, comparable to a '06. Really a beautiful cartridge.
Long eye relief scopes with small apertures always gave me a headache so bravo for actually hitting stuff with this setup. You know what would be fun to see? Anything in 45-70. Seeing how it preforms at 500 yds would be interesting.
Came here from Karl's recommendations.
Now I'm in love with "in theory".
It looks like that Gordon carbine is getting worked.
This is why the best sniper of all time used his iron sights...
The zeroing works by adjusting a risley prism pair, in case anyone cares. Unsurprising choice for the time.
Very good review and shooting.
As always guy's... everything from your Channel is awesome 👌. Thanks for this very informative and cool video✌.
Always top notch content from you guys!
Always enjoy you guys pushing the firearms to the limiteds in stock configuration. 👍🏽🇺🇸🙏🏽
I just discovered this channel and am thoroughly enjoying the combination of information/education and range time. I especially appreciate the sight picture shots that every episode has. Meanwhile... @ 18:12 I know German and Soviet snipers used extra-lethal explosive rounds, but this sniper seems to be taking it to another level with that rifle grenade :P
this video does a good job at showing just how much nuts something like 8mm has. The way it threw that 350 yard plate was kinda wild... cant imagine fighting against something that is shooting those things a 700-1300 rounds per minute, let alone more than 1 of them
10:50 I HIGHLY disagree with this statement. the United States was the only country to enter the war with a semi automatic rifle as standard issue for the army. Now, the marines started with mostly M1903 Springfields, but that's a story for a different day. Other countries TRIED to push semi automatic rifles into service, but they were never the standard. You were lucky to get one at that point. Here's a list of guns made and you'll see the discrepancy.
Bolt action
Gewehr k98 (German issue): 14,600,000+
Mosin Nagant M91/30: 16,000,000+ (speculative, as 91/30s were made from old M91s and brought up to spec or made new.)
No.4 Lee-Enfield: 4,000,000
Type 99: 3,500,000
Semi Auto
M1: 5,468,772
SVT-40: 1,600,000
Gewehr 41: 145,000
Gewehr 43: 402,713
As you can see, Germany had the right idea in using the optic on their standard issue K98 rifle for the designated marksman's role. Especially put into the context of early war.
9:44 Gun Jesus? :-)
Something something "here we see" something something "in his natural habitat" something. =)
No chauchat, not Ian. :)
Love your channel man super awesome stuff . Was wondering if you plan on covering any of the 6mm rounds like the Grendel or the 6.8 spc
Don't close the bolt on a loose round with a mauser, always push it into the magazine or you can damage the rifle!
That made me cringe. Good way to damage the extractor. Mauser is controlled feed only.
Depends on whether the extractor is beveled or not.
I enjoy your channel more then in-range tv.
Thanks! Always happy to see the kind and important comments like this on RUclips. We've come so far, haven't we?
In WW2 the std. K98 was expected to shoot 3 out of 5 shots in a 2.8x4.1 MOA group, and 5 out of 5 shots in a 4.1 MOA group at 100 m as the minimum requirement, which is actually very good for a rifle produced in the many millions, as the higher the production number the higher the minimum accuracy requirement also has to be in order to avoid substantial number of rejections. For comparison the minimum accuracy requirement for the US std. service rifle, the M1 Garand was 5 MOA, and for the British Lee Enfield No.4 it was 4.5 MOA. So basically the minimum accuracy requirement was the same for these three nations std. service rifles, with the one exception being that the Germans required less horizontal dispersion -> which makes sense with such a heavy projectile.
It would be interesting to see how the 98 would stack up against the 03A3 if it had been given a set of aperture sights.
Did any of the nations that adopted the Mauser implement a superior sighting system to the Germans?
I would really like a norweigian 98k.
@@9HoleReviews didn't the Spaniards use an aperture on the FR-8 too?
Given that the Germans said they weren't particularly accurate on average, whereas 1903's were held to 3 MOA at the factory as a minimum standard, probably not very well on average ;) ruclips.net/video/S7eQT9LeVeE/видео.html
Bloke on the Range how dare you criticize the accuracy of the K98k??? Next thing you‘re going to tell me the Germans even remarked in ww1 on the superior accuracy of French rifles compared to the Gewehr 98!
@@BlokeontheRange What is going on here!?! First Karl collaborates, then a Ian cameo Easter egg, now comments from Bloke. 9-Hole review keeps pretty good company. We just need Othias to stop by...
Best Guntube channel by far
Now do the 1911a1 to 500 yards while parachuting in front of Japanese zeros lol
They haven't done that one??? WTF??!! That should have been the first one.
Rodrigo de Piérola exactly. Henry can do it 🤷🏻♂️
The Japanese records indicate all their planes were accounted for so it was probably just a tall tale.
grau473 the empire of japan lied a lot back the.
So did soldiers. Its a cool story though.
That’s great that Joe (someone who has been there, done that) enjoyed your video.
Really looking forward to this
this was wunderbar
Great job, great video!
As a German i have to say that Sieben zwei und neunzig was on point but as Hesse i have to say its Sieben zwo und neunzisch 🤣
Uii, noch eine Hesse :) Grüße aus dem schönen Westerwald !
11:20 M1A1 Carbine with German ZF-41 scope 1.5x
Item 13. M1A1 Carbine presented to Major General Sir Colin Gubbins after the war by members of the Norwegian Resistance. In 1940, Gubbins had commanded the "Independent Companies" -- a forerunner to the Commandos --in Norway. Later he oversaw the succesful raid on the Vemork heavy water plant in 1943. (from the Museum notes)
Very cool!
When are we going to see Zastava M76? It keeps up pooping in videos, I can't wait for much longer!1!! :D
I just realized this is the first of your videos I've ever seen where there wasn't some sort of typhoon blowing across the range.
"Sieben-Swei-Uhnd-Neunsig Mauser" :D I was laughing way more than I should have.
That made a good looking rifle, into me drooling for one now.
Speaking of the M1 Carbine, I had one with a 1.5-4.5X Weaver scope. I could snipe pigeons, feral cats, etc at 100 yards with no difficulty using Remington or Winchester 110 gr sp/hp ammo. I imagine the Norwegian resistance made life miserable for Nazis out to 300 yards.
The snipers did in fact hate the ZF-41 scope. In the book "Sniper on the Eastern Front", there was a part where a Wehrmacht war artist was sketching a German sniper armed with a K98 that had a ZF-41 scope on and sniper "Josef Roth said "There's no point in painting that thing, you can't see anything through it." in regards to the ZF-41 on the rifle.
Outstanding shooting with that little scope, worst one used in WW2, your a RIFLEMAN no doubt to achieve this level of hits at long distances with that optic.
henry throwing the spent shells sent me lol
Counterpoint to Karl's idea of a ZF-41 on an M1 Carbine is the ideal setup. I'd think an SKS would be a good candidate for a ZF-41.
wow, very interesting content. thanks!
tbf the accuracy requirement for the std. K98k was 2.9 MOA in windage, and 4.5 MOA in drop. (120x80mm rectangle at 100 m)
That was a pretty good run!
At 06:42 "uuueeaarrfgggghhbbeeewww" 😂😂😂why and what was that sound for, if I may ask?
Whitey Bulger was a beast with an open sighted M1 carbine.
M1 carbine practical accuracy!
I'd like to see a Close range practical accuracy done on it. .30 carbine isn't going to be worth a damn past 300yds. Hitting that 500yd gong will be a nightmare, and that's if it moves enough for Josh to call.
Karl. ZF41 guru! Thx!!!
Maybe another video with the Sniper mockup using the "winter glove technique"? I would be interested in seeing that for sure.
Looks like it meets Col. Cooper’s scout rifle criteria quite well!
Goed jacht geweer !!! opa
His shoulder probably didn't like the filming of this episode.
Great video. Ya it's good as it provides quite a bit of insight.
I would love to see this setup with the mini 14, just to see if it would actually improve the gun for proper use.
I have a 98K sniper with the high turret Zf-39 scope unfortunately it will not hold zero. The sights on the 98K look like an after thought like Mauser went to bed a woke up and said Oh I forgot the sight and jumped out of bed and hurried to the shop and stuck the first thing he saw on as the sight. If the 98K had even had the sights of an Enfield No-3.MK.1 it would a vast improvement. I still love them the 7.92X57 is an excellent round. At the time the Germans invaded Russian they found the Russians were very advanced in sniping and Germany had to play catch up. About 45 years ago I had a 98K with the Zf-41 scope on it and it was a pain to try to zero I didn't have the tool you need to do it and I foolishly sold it. All the reproduction scope like the Zf-41 the Zf-39 and the T-32 Enfield scope are expensive junk. The best sniper rifle of WW-2 in my view was the Enfield with the T-32 scope. .
When do we see a lever action on this Chanel ? Aren’t you guys from Texas!
Yeee haaaw pardner.... we shure do have dem there lever actions BUT considerin’ this is a free state we frickin use dang ol ARs and AKs like real men
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Real men in Texas!?!? but Gunny from full metal jacket says only steers and queers come from Texas!
Don H lever guns are gross
@@kaisercollins3097 ok twinkle toes, maybe you should visit the flowers and fashion channel j/k.
I mean... a Martini Henry has a lever... right?
Wanna see Henry running a Henry rifle
Great video
I have one! All original and in amazing condition! Fun to shoot! AR 42 on the receiver.
Man that steel got hit with authority
Dammit you two... I was TRYING to drink while watching this.
Kar 98k. Pull the scope, go irons. The 10-15 min saved will be critical. If traveling by ski, unless its snowing will be super easy to track meaning you need to get out as far ahead as possible.
I often hunt with a Jerghans & Kreigskorte drilling in 16ga x 16ga over 8x57JR (rimmed 8mm Mauser), and hoo boi that 197gn pill with a load that is regulated to the sights is about too much for out lil' eastern deer lol.
I cringe every time I see someone take a K98 and shove a single round on top of the follower and shove the round into the chamber, thinking the K98 is a push feed rifle like a Remington 700. See it @ 4:56.
Mind explaining the differences? Not that knowledgeable in bolt action rifles
@@DewaKrishna_ K-98 is a "Controlled Feed" action. it requires the ammo to be fed from the magazine because as the cartridge is fed from the magazine, the rim of the cartridge base is fed up under the extractor on the bolt, giving positive feeding. If you place a a cartridge on the magazine follower in a K98 action, you will cause a jam because that is NOT how the action was designed. If you need more information, look up "controlled feed bolt actions and "push feed" bolt actions.
And you know whether this particular one has a beveled extractor or not?
Actually, while it would make sense that German cameramen could not cover snipers in battle (Think about it, would you want one following you while you are trying to remain unseen?), German cameramen spent a great deal of time in combat zones where many were wounded, captured, or killed. Johannes Hähle for example was wounded on the Eastern front and died not long after D-Day in the fighting in Normandy. Cameramen also went out on U-boats, E-boats, and in bombers. If you go to the Bundesarchiv you'll see that they left a remarkable record of combat, even though much of what they captured was destroyed in bombings, etc. As for the ZF-41 not being popular with snipers, well go figure, nobody is happy when they are given a tool that is not meant for their job. Personally, I think it is great for accurrate snap shooting. They were meant to do things like take off the head of the machinegunner who has your squad pinned down, or hit the guy firing through a bunker window. Small targets not too far away. They did what they were designed to do.