Same rifle, like Yugo M92 ( same caliber 7.62x54R) I used this rifle for a 10 year, with scope Zrak 6x42, and im very satisfied for that rifle, from 350/400 meters range. But, some "precisiusly" shot ( police job - hostage crisis) nope! Now, i used Ster SSG - much bether.
"I have friend who have Dragunov SVD, I have many friend" I don't know why but that made me giggle for a solid minute, your intro are always the cherry on top of the gold standards test you guys runs, I even did come to learn and appreciate ISPC shooting, thank you guys!
Love your Cuz.He seems like a nice guy. The interviews with the Russian and Chinese soldiers are excellent, and gives your vids more depth and ballance.
One of the first DMRs to ever be designed, and be successful, AND is still in service today despite it’s age and the age of the cartridge it was made around is a true testament to the capabilities of it’s designer as a gunsmith. Great shooting, keep up the awesome content guys.
@@wtel9536 Made in 1938 and 1943, respectively, both were just semi-automatic rifles with the same planned role as M1 Garand or FN FAL, i.e. both were meant to increase firepower of infantry, not accuracy or firing distance, and eventually to substitute the main bolt rifles, Mosin and Mauser. Just some of them were used with optical sights. The first such rifle was Mexican Fusil Mondragon. Nothing common with the purposefully designed DMR in every squad. Just two mass production semi-auto rifles, several % of them equipped with optical sights.
@Lone Ranger Ok, Mauser 98 had a scoped version in 1915. It was not semi-auto, but it is not a must for DMR. Wikipedia: the SVD was the first rifle designed from the outset as what is now known as a designated marksman rifle.
Gold content as always! I have actually had some experience with type 85 in PLA sniper team. First, the rifle I put my hands on was really beaten up. The finish was all gone and I have no idea how many rounds were shot through that specific rifle. Second, there is no real 'Sniper grade ammunition' available to type 85 platform. Sniper team that was equipped with type 85s only shoot general purpose machine gun 54r ammo through type 85. Third, it was a standard procedure that snipers have to take off their scopes and store them separately every time after shooting. Thus, the type 85 that produces 3-4 MOA groups at 100m was not really effective as a true sniper rifle. I have to say the svd is a fantastic system, but it needs systemic sniper equipment and sniper concept to perform well in its role.
Thank you for responding! I have actually been looking for someone who used the T85, would you be willing to let me interview you? It's no issue if you can't, but it would add a lot of context to the subject! feel free to email us back at 9holereviews@gmail.com
9-Hole Reviews really appreciate the opportunity. I will send you email to further discuss PLA sniper stuff when I go back to Canada in October. Strangely I cannot use my Gmail in China even through VPN. There are tons of interesting content about PLA that I will share with you in the future.
Definitely one of the best videos by you guys so far. It makes so cry that we can't get the superb Norinco SVD rifles into the U.S. anymore. I'd give my left nut for one of these if I could afford one today. I kick myself for not buying one back in the 90's when they were available and reasonably priced. But thank God I at least bought a Norinco SKS rifle. I love that rifle SO much. After three decades of very rough use (hunting and target shooting out in the field) and thousands of rounds, I have not had a single part failure. I baby it now that their prices are skyrocketing though. Sad that I can't even find spare parts for reasonable prices. :( I hate Trump, but I would vote for him if he ended the stupid ban on imported Norinco rifles.
hi henry, my wife is nancy, im using her computer, i would like to say thank you 10 times over for doing this one so confidently past 400 yds, but then again you were using black hills. i am old farmer and only have experience with this one in 8mm. i did not like it at that time in 80 preferring the hk91 w 6xziess w7.62bh. im too old now to do fine work far out but relish watching you make them march way out there! very professional evaluation. r.g.wachendorf
Miguel Rojas 54 is Russian standard, 51 is a NATO caliber. ETA: I assume this is an import gun, based on the caliber, but people may not know about that.
You always find a way to impress me with your content! My favorite aspect of your channel is your focus on practicality, followed by simply gorgeous guns. Thanks for sharing!
DEFINITELY one of your best videos yet. The combination of the shooting with the deep-dive info as well as some tongue-in-cheek comedy makes for a wonderfully entertaining video. Keep it up!
My favorite war rifle.. I always have to tell everybody how I opened a crate of genuine, unissued Russian SVD's, cleaned them off the cosmoline and roughly zeroed them at 300m.. That was back in -96 during my service in the FDF.. They had the untouched battery packages and all. Eventually I got to shoot them quite a lot as I was trained as a sniper/DMR. We shot the 200gr D166 out of them and the gas regulator for the inertia piston was set up for Russian 152gr sniper steel core ball so the recoil was manly. everybody loved them Dragunovs.. And excellent, sleek combat rifle for people who can shoot. Very field friendly, robust and relatively light to carry.
Henry Thanks for making some of the best shoot content on RUclips. I like your reviews of the guns also. I’d like to see more of those. Keep up the good work guys!
“Have your ever heard of the ATF? I’ve got two dogs” lmao these intros just keep getting better and better. Any chance we’ll see an Winchester Model 70 with an 8x Unertl?
Dude. I love this video. The SVD is the one rifle I've always wanted to throw in the collection. I was never a Type 85 but now, I'll have to dream about it as well. And your Chinese soldier impression is hilarious!
Such an elegant rifle design. It ended up being a treasure/ trophy. I do regret having sold mine, but I did use some of the funds to purchase an RPR and some other very nice weapons as well as some art supplies. Still, I miss having it.
The new SVDM version has a shorter, thicker barrel to help with the wandering issues you can have after a couple of mags, i think they changed the twist ratio as well, max popenker spoke about it on a forgotten weapons video recently. I do recall one of the faxon barrels people say that wandering issues with barrels are mostly due to the type of heat treatment that a factory uses, but i guess its cheaper for izhmash to make the barrels thicker than to get an entire new line of heat treating machines that use a different type of technology. Ive seen a modified european svd in 300 win mag using svdk 9.3 mags, i wish they made them like that from the factory as well, or maybe in 300 norma magnum! Very nice video btw. thanks.
Best thing about this channel....... The intro music. Something about it that makes me wait in anticipation of awesome shooting and even better comments.
Most commercial .308 loads and even standard 7.62x51 NATO ball has nearly identical drop and flight path as light ball 7.62x54. In a side by side, the .308 is a slightly better cartridge in that it's a .308 instead of a .312. A .308 of the same weight as a .312 will tend to conserve velocity a bit better and have just slightly better flight characteristics at range due to better ballistic coefficient. The .308 also burns powder more efficiently which tends to produce slightly better accuracy due to a more even and efficient powder burn during ignition. Same effect you see with the super short magnums as compared to traditional magnum cartridges: more efficient powder burn in a wider case allows for more consistent and efficient burn rate and therefore more consistent acceleration before the bullet leaves the barrel: which also increases consistency of flight path - which is otherwise referred to as "accuracy". With well made ammunition and two equally as well made guns the differences between .308'7.63 NATO and 7.62x54 R is too nominal for most shooters to experience: because those differences in cartridge case design and ballistic coefficient won't readily make determinable differentiations unless you're stretching the cartridge to long ranges where fractional differences become measurable results. With a pair of stock Remington 700s, one in .308 and one in 7.62x54 R: a shooter probably won't be able to see differences in accuracy at 100 yards, assuming 1) there's no psychosomatic bias of knowing which gun is which caliber and 2) both guns are loaded with equally well manufactured ammunition. At 1,000 yards, however, the differences would become plainly evident because at that distance: the differences would become measurable beyond standard deviation. Just a few of those complex and often highly misunderstood concepts of long range and or precision shooting.
Observing Libertarian There’s one fatal flaw in your analysis, you don’t take into account that 7.62x54R has a larger case capacity and thus can carry more powder giving it better performance.
@@Mkvine "thus can carry more powder giving it better performance." - Were it true. In reality, however, it doesn't have better performance. 7.62 NATO will drop less at 1,000 yards than 7.62x54R.
@@Mkvine Yeah, and if I put extra powder in a .38 special I can turn it into a .357 magnum: if we're talking about uploading a charge then we're not talking about a caliber made to spec. If you took the 7.62x54R and 7.62x51 and uploaded both by the same measure the 7.62 NATO would still out perform the 7.62x54 at 1,000 yards because it has a better ballistic coefficient. For future references - I don't own a .308: I own a VEPR in 7.62x54R, I like the cartridge, I like it's flight pattern and I like it's cost of ammunition more than anything else. I have a case of 880 rounds of Russian surplus sitting in this very computer room right this very second as I type this. Just because I like the cartridge doesn't mean I'm going to pretend reality isn't what it is. Also, btw, the Dragunov *is* my favorite Rifle of all time and the reason I have a VEPR and not a dragunov is because I don't have $8k+ disposable income to have an SVD Dragunov - otherwise I would.
Nice video! Since you also tested the Finnish M39, It would be nice to see you test a Sako M92S or a Valmet M62 (or M76). Those are pretty rare guns though.
The amount of comedy you put into your serious reviews is just golden. And that extra history note about barrel twist and difference between Chinese and Russian model was amazing.
I can garantee you guys i really understand the feeling of the intro, when my relatives from italy keep sending me stuff (food in the 99% of the cases)..... Anyway great video like always♥️
@@9HoleReviews A question: how was the trigger? Most AK variants leave me less than satisfied. I know that the SVD is actually quite different in some ways than the AK. I am curious if the SVD has a crisp trigger. Considering your shooting, I would imagine it does.
@@9HoleReviews Now that warms my heart. I am still fighting to get a decent trigger on my custom Galil build. Gun is stupid accurate ( very custom barrel and one hell of a builder out of TN) but the trigger is just....blehhhhhhh. The Israeli trigger was bleh...the ALG is bleh...I'll find something one of these days!!!!!!
@@lilchlor1ne832 Exactly my point. The implied argument that China is only doing well from these negative actions is obsolete, as many countries do the same.
杨健 www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-24-mn-7854-story.html There is a reason Chinese Arms in general are banned in the US, it actually has a valid security reason unlike Russian Arms.
Best intro yet! All that was missing was blood on the currency. Thanks for sharing this rifle with us finally! I'm always impressed at what they were able to accomplish with the tech of that day and age. Also, you shooting out to 800 with a 4x optic... (bows down) We are not worthy.
Great videos and love the sense of humor with the seriousness of the education and history behind this iconic and loved rifle the SVD series. Whether its the Russian or Chinese Dragunov SVD, beware of the dragon and its flame!!!
To be fair, as Chan mentioned later in the video, almost all western DMR's were not designed from the ground up as DMR's. I'd like to see some western DMR's there were built to be as such from the ground up, would be a cool thing to see.
Henry, love your sense of humour, and the way you take the piss (have fun with) out of your background. Love seeing all the rifles we cant have here in Aussie. Cheers Mate.
I don't know how I've never seen your videos before but this is great content very informative very entertaining absolutely love the video instant subscribe keep it up
@Joe Ç My local university has a lot of chinese national students...you have no idea how true this is. Local PD had to deal with them trying to bribe them out of speeding tickets multiple times and the university has to tell them outright in the orientation that slapping your girlfriend around in an argument is domestic abuse and is NOT okay.
First time I ever seen a Chinese made clone that was anywhere close to reliable as the original. Granted that this was not a Russian made rifle that shot the 7.62x54R, this was a great video and a amazing rifle. I still would love to see the Russian made version go through the range with you guys. Granted that you guys were talking about the muzzle loads were similar, the .308 and the 7.62x54R, they are not the same.
Thanks youtube. I feel really greatful to show you how SVD works. In a distance, or a wind, or a fast moving car I always get you in a couple of bullets. Weather predictions, laser guidances are not needed. I have a map and I can see leaves trembling.
@@Takhor86 Sorry but I don't understand what you are writing. I had basic training with that rifle in the army, and guys from my platoon who were issued with those DMR's droped torso sized targets at 800m with little problems.
Синиша No need to get buttsore about it. I have tested M-76 and PSL against SVD and result was both M-76 andRomanian PSL started to string down after 5th or 6th shot. Still a decent rifle, but no SVD. Not even close.
Mark Vorobiev Interesting, I have never seen that with my M-76 either. Now I have seen my PSL start stringing after the third shot. But, I probably don’t have the same number of data points that you do. You are out of KS, correct ?
Have you considered the Yugo M76 using the M75 ammunition? There are reweld projects that have been completed. About as close to original as one may get. There are 6x42 Zrak M93 scopes available with the 7,9 turret
Master Warning Based on my experience with the M75 in the M-76 it was erratic as hell. Commercial FMJ was more accurate than it was. Good luck finding a 6X Zrak. Those are almost unobtanium here in the United States because Bosnia refuses to sell them to us. I found one in Europe with the correct mount, but the seller wanted $800 before shipping.
winkleried hello I have 3 m76 all produced by two river arms. I’ve got a m93 scope actually...and about 5000 rounds of m75. My luck has been very good..all my m76 have original barrels. One rifle is built on a recut cai receiver..one on a tortort receiver and the other is a reweld. May I ask which commercial ammo do you prefer.
![🥇 SAKO TRG42 [🇫🇮Arctic Sniper] to 1,000yds: Practical Accuracy](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kl7lAyYlznw/mqdefault.jpg)
“Over stabilized “ is the wrong word. “Too much twist imparted upon the 7n1 projectile for the Russian version” would be more apt. -Henry
Same rifle, like Yugo M92 ( same caliber 7.62x54R)
I used this rifle for a 10 year, with scope Zrak 6x42, and im very satisfied for that rifle, from 350/400 meters range.
But, some "precisiusly" shot ( police job - hostage crisis) nope!
Now, i used Ster SSG - much bether.
@@posmatracanonimni_com Yugo M91 is a PSL copy. As it the older M76 and Iraqi Tabuk.
Now when are we getting the Select Fire Vector?
@@cnlbenmc Want to see their run with a MAC-10 on full auto only suppressed.
cmon guys just add metric numbers like 800 yards (888 meters) for viewers outside usa
"Have you ever heard of the ATF? I've got two dogs." OOF
ATF : He has two dogs!
John Whick enters channel.
That joke hit harder than a Chinese police baton.
i dont get it?
@@vorlon81 the ATF shoots dogs
@@ding3126 except when it is the US Marshals shooting Randy Weaver's Dog and son...
"I have friend who have Dragunov SVD, I have many friend"
I don't know why but that made me giggle for a solid minute, your intro are always the cherry on top of the gold standards test you guys runs, I even did come to learn and appreciate ISPC shooting, thank you guys!
I wish I had a cousin with so many friends... and an SVD.
I wish I had an SVD!!
Right I hate commies but I like there guns 😍
You can always have the PSL
@@SparkySlow Priced 200% over what it's actually worth... Not to mention the fuckin' magazines.
Don't we all?
Love your Cuz.He seems like a nice guy. The interviews with the Russian and Chinese soldiers are excellent, and gives your vids more depth and ballance.
"What type of asshole make sniper rifle shoot explosive bullet? We want accuracy. Make more accuracy."
One of the first DMRs to ever be designed, and be successful, AND is still in service today despite it’s age and the age of the cartridge it was made around is a true testament to the capabilities of it’s designer as a gunsmith.
Great shooting, keep up the awesome content guys.
Tony Webb but he’s shooting .308 in this video not 54R...
One of? Which army was the very first to have DMRs in every squad and which rifle was the first DMR?
@@UncleQ57 arguably the SVT and G43, though without the doctrine.
@@wtel9536 Made in 1938 and 1943, respectively, both were just semi-automatic rifles with the same planned role as M1 Garand or FN FAL, i.e. both were meant to increase firepower of infantry, not accuracy or firing distance, and eventually to substitute the main bolt rifles, Mosin and Mauser. Just some of them were used with optical sights. The first such rifle was Mexican Fusil Mondragon. Nothing common with the purposefully designed DMR in every squad. Just two mass production semi-auto rifles, several % of them equipped with optical sights.
@Lone Ranger Ok, Mauser 98 had a scoped version in 1915. It was not semi-auto, but it is not a must for DMR. Wikipedia: the SVD was the first rifle designed from the outset as what is now known as a designated marksman rifle.
If I’m not mistaken the SVD was the first purpose built military sniper rifle and what’s more impressive is it holds up today.
Gold content as always! I have actually had some experience with type 85 in PLA sniper team. First, the rifle I put my hands on was really beaten up. The finish was all gone and I have no idea how many rounds were shot through that specific rifle. Second, there is no real 'Sniper grade ammunition' available to type 85 platform. Sniper team that was equipped with type 85s only shoot general purpose machine gun 54r ammo through type 85. Third, it was a standard procedure that snipers have to take off their scopes and store them separately every time after shooting. Thus, the type 85 that produces 3-4 MOA groups at 100m was not really effective as a true sniper rifle. I have to say the svd is a fantastic system, but it needs systemic sniper equipment and sniper concept to perform well in its role.
Thank you for responding! I have actually been looking for someone who used the T85, would you be willing to let me interview you? It's no issue if you can't, but it would add a lot of context to the subject! feel free to email us back at 9holereviews@gmail.com
9-Hole Reviews really appreciate the opportunity. I will send you email to further discuss PLA sniper stuff when I go back to Canada in October. Strangely I cannot use my Gmail in China even through VPN. There are tons of interesting content about PLA that I will share with you in the future.
@@jinzhu8657 alive? Naa dude is gone
wheres the video?
@@joydevsarkar4474 Peoples Party didnt allow him exploring ther secrets
"These Chinese scope are much clearer than their Russian counterparts."
The entire internet: *angry typing noises*
It sure smacks the hell out of the targets all the way out to 700 at least. I would definitely like to see the 7.62x54r version....
What version did you think he was shooting?
It sounded like his loads for the NATO round match up almost exactly with the 7.62x54R rounds... If that's the case, then can we have a try at it?
@TreyWorld Chris NDMs does came in both calibers tho
@libra8a that is incorrect. NDM-86's also came in 54R, and believe it or not that is the much more common variation of them. Look it up.
@@breed4659 Did you even watch the video?
Definitely one of the best videos by you guys so far. It makes so cry that we can't get the superb Norinco SVD rifles into the U.S. anymore. I'd give my left nut for one of these if I could afford one today. I kick myself for not buying one back in the 90's when they were available and reasonably priced. But thank God I at least bought a Norinco SKS rifle. I love that rifle SO much. After three decades of very rough use (hunting and target shooting out in the field) and thousands of rounds, I have not had a single part failure. I baby it now that their prices are skyrocketing though. Sad that I can't even find spare parts for reasonable prices. :( I hate Trump, but I would vote for him if he ended the stupid ban on imported Norinco rifles.
Lmao 😂 “what kind of ***hole makes a sniper rifle shoot explosive bullets?” Masterful editing.
That made me cough really hard lol
awesome lol
and i noticed he squinted his eyes on purpose lmao, great humor lmao Henry
ps I'm asian too
Thus began the Sino Soviet Split
That was basically my favourite part of the whole video lol
hi henry, my wife is nancy, im using her computer, i would like to say thank you 10 times over for doing this one so confidently past 400 yds, but then again you were using black hills. i am old farmer and only have experience with this one in 8mm. i did not like it at that time in 80 preferring the hk91 w 6xziess w7.62bh. im too old now to do fine work far out but relish watching you make them march way out there! very professional evaluation. r.g.wachendorf
>Chinese
>7.62 x *51*
You have committed high heresy comrade
Umm... why? 7.62x51's standard for Dragunov-pattern DMRs.
Miguel Rojas 54 is Russian standard, 51 is a NATO caliber. ETA: I assume this is an import gun, based on the caliber, but people may not know about that.
@@scott-tt5zn Ah, right. And you're probably right about the import assumption.
It's a Chinese type 85
My thought entirely. This does not shoot 7.62 X 54R, instead shoots Imperialist Running Dog caliber.
This was hilarious. You got yourself a new follower. The combination of solid content and obscure objects of desire is irresistable.
"have you heard of the atf? I've got two dogs" sad but true.
dont get it .?
Tbf, the police is more likely to shoot your dogs then the ATF!
@@vorlon81 Waco started cause the feds shot their dog.
Timothy Han didn’t the Ruby Ridge incident start with a dog getting shot too?
PS ATF just asking a question please don’t shoot my dog
@@conorobrien2411 the feds shot Randy Weaver's dog and his son in the woods, after riling up their dogs and getting everyone out of the house.
You always find a way to impress me with your content! My favorite aspect of your channel is your focus on practicality, followed by simply gorgeous guns. Thanks for sharing!
DEFINITELY one of your best videos yet. The combination of the shooting with the deep-dive info as well as some tongue-in-cheek comedy makes for a wonderfully entertaining video. Keep it up!
great info
You need to go and shoot this course of fire!!!!
My favorite war rifle.. I always have to tell everybody how I opened a crate of genuine, unissued Russian SVD's, cleaned them off the cosmoline and roughly zeroed them at 300m.. That was back in -96 during my service in the FDF.. They had the untouched battery packages and all. Eventually I got to shoot them quite a lot as I was trained as a sniper/DMR. We shot the 200gr D166 out of them and the gas regulator for the inertia piston was set up for Russian 152gr sniper steel core ball so the recoil was manly. everybody loved them Dragunovs.. And excellent, sleek combat rifle for people who can shoot. Very field friendly, robust and relatively light to carry.
Interesting. What is the FDF? Finnish Defence Force?
@@Surv1ve_Thrive ))))))))))
Henry
Thanks for making some of the best shoot content on RUclips. I like your reviews of the guns also. I’d like to see more of those. Keep up the good work guys!
“Have your ever heard of the ATF? I’ve got two dogs” lmao these intros just keep getting better and better. Any chance we’ll see an Winchester Model 70 with an 8x Unertl?
This would be great to see
OMG, I'd bust a nut if he had one of those!
Dude. I love this video. The SVD is the one rifle I've always wanted to throw in the collection. I was never a Type 85 but now, I'll have to dream about it as well. And your Chinese soldier impression is hilarious!
Dude i used both chinese and russian svds, the chinese barrel curved after two mags!
ROOFTOP CHINAMAN coming through with the rare gats. My man!
#NEUTRALISED
Sta ima cole
Such an elegant rifle design. It ended up being a treasure/ trophy. I do regret having sold mine, but I did use some of the funds to purchase an RPR and some other very nice weapons as well as some art supplies. Still, I miss having it.
This was fun. I loved the breakdown and the skits. Thanks!
Really surprised by the accuracy of this! Very impressed, excellent video, loved the intro :-)
The new SVDM version has a shorter, thicker barrel to help with the wandering issues you can have after a couple of mags, i think they changed the twist ratio as well, max popenker spoke about it on a forgotten weapons video recently. I do recall one of the faxon barrels people say that wandering issues with barrels are mostly due to the type of heat treatment that a factory uses, but i guess its cheaper for izhmash to make the barrels thicker than to get an entire new line of heat treating machines that use a different type of technology.
Ive seen a modified european svd in 300 win mag using svdk 9.3 mags, i wish they made them like that from the factory as well, or maybe in 300 norma magnum!
Very nice video btw. thanks.
Wandering POI can come from an improperly stress relieved barrel or the gas system, among other issues.
Chinese impression at 10:00 was Hilarious and spot on. Thanks for the video.
never have I ever been green with envy over a youtube video...Till right now.
You want Chinese cousin?
@@ABC-dw7pe YES! I ADORE Chinese friends! Even more Family!! Talk to me, cousin.
OHH ISSA SO GOOOOD
Yo I live in Hong Kong
Can I get a cousin like that to send me packages to my home
Best thing about this channel.......
The intro music.
Something about it that makes me wait in anticipation of awesome shooting and even better comments.
Most commercial .308 loads and even standard 7.62x51 NATO ball has nearly identical drop and flight path as light ball 7.62x54. In a side by side, the .308 is a slightly better cartridge in that it's a .308 instead of a .312. A .308 of the same weight as a .312 will tend to conserve velocity a bit better and have just slightly better flight characteristics at range due to better ballistic coefficient. The .308 also burns powder more efficiently which tends to produce slightly better accuracy due to a more even and efficient powder burn during ignition. Same effect you see with the super short magnums as compared to traditional magnum cartridges: more efficient powder burn in a wider case allows for more consistent and efficient burn rate and therefore more consistent acceleration before the bullet leaves the barrel: which also increases consistency of flight path - which is otherwise referred to as "accuracy".
With well made ammunition and two equally as well made guns the differences between .308'7.63 NATO and 7.62x54 R is too nominal for most shooters to experience: because those differences in cartridge case design and ballistic coefficient won't readily make determinable differentiations unless you're stretching the cartridge to long ranges where fractional differences become measurable results. With a pair of stock Remington 700s, one in .308 and one in 7.62x54 R: a shooter probably won't be able to see differences in accuracy at 100 yards, assuming 1) there's no psychosomatic bias of knowing which gun is which caliber and 2) both guns are loaded with equally well manufactured ammunition. At 1,000 yards, however, the differences would become plainly evident because at that distance: the differences would become measurable beyond standard deviation.
Just a few of those complex and often highly misunderstood concepts of long range and or precision shooting.
Observing Libertarian
There’s one fatal flaw in your analysis, you don’t take into account that 7.62x54R has a larger case capacity and thus can carry more powder giving it better performance.
@@Mkvine "thus can carry more powder giving it better performance." -
Were it true. In reality, however, it doesn't have better performance. 7.62 NATO will drop less at 1,000 yards than 7.62x54R.
@@Mkvine Yeah, and if I put extra powder in a .38 special I can turn it into a .357 magnum: if we're talking about uploading a charge then we're not talking about a caliber made to spec. If you took the 7.62x54R and 7.62x51 and uploaded both by the same measure the 7.62 NATO would still out perform the 7.62x54 at 1,000 yards because it has a better ballistic coefficient.
For future references - I don't own a .308: I own a VEPR in 7.62x54R, I like the cartridge, I like it's flight pattern and I like it's cost of ammunition more than anything else. I have a case of 880 rounds of Russian surplus sitting in this very computer room right this very second as I type this. Just because I like the cartridge doesn't mean I'm going to pretend reality isn't what it is.
Also, btw, the Dragunov *is* my favorite Rifle of all time and the reason I have a VEPR and not a dragunov is because I don't have $8k+ disposable income to have an SVD Dragunov - otherwise I would.
@@ObservingLibertarian chinese svd didn't cost that much 10 years ago. Lol
Nice video! Since you also tested the Finnish M39, It would be nice to see you test a Sako M92S or a Valmet M62 (or M76). Those are pretty rare guns though.
The amount of comedy you put into your serious reviews is just golden. And that extra history note about barrel twist and difference between Chinese and Russian model was amazing.
This channel just keeps getting better and better. Well done gentlemen.
These are awesome to watch just for the tongue in cheek humour! The great rifles and shooting is a great bonus. Keep up the good work guys.
You guys are killing it lately. I love this.
Notes from all over East Asia lol, gosh Henry you are a traveler
I'm just addicted to trying new foods :)
@@9HoleReviews food or guns ?
the pack of smokes in 'the package' is classic - the range, twist, and bullet weigh discussion keeps us coming back my brother
Since you don't want the Dragunov, I will gladly take it off your hands.
I'm wondering how anyone could possibly dislike any of these videos on this channel. Great work guys. Keep it up. Enjoy all your content!
I can garantee you guys i really understand the feeling of the intro, when my relatives from italy keep sending me stuff (food in the 99% of the cases).....
Anyway great video like always♥️
What was the other 1%?
@@dark2023-1lovesoni clothes, the fancy one we love in italy
Damn, instant sub! This was really entertaining/cinematic and also super informative, keep it up bro!!!
You can't hate the Three Oh Eight. A mauser in 6.5 Swede instead of 8mm does not mean it is no longer a Mauser!
I'd rather have the Mauser in the 6.5, much more potential in the Swede
Now only if there was a svd in 6.5 swede...
@@joshsquatch7474 - They did. Check out the AG42 Ljungman. However, it is a bit more of a Swedish M14 than a Swedish SVD Draganov.
@@F15ElectricEagle ljungman's are neat, I really would like to shoot one.
Verni If you’ve ever heard of “garand thumb” Ljungmans can cause even worse injuries. Sometimes amputations so watch your fingers!
Of all of your videos....this one was an incredible learning experience for me. Thank you for the work you put into this stuff.
Cheers! This was a learning experience for me too, what a lovely piece of engineering!
@@9HoleReviews A question: how was the trigger? Most AK variants leave me less than satisfied. I know that the SVD is actually quite different in some ways than the AK. I am curious if the SVD has a crisp trigger. Considering your shooting, I would imagine it does.
noman mcshmoo the SVD trigger was a nice light 4lb two stage math trigger. Makes sense because Y. Dragunov was a sports shooter
@@9HoleReviews Now that warms my heart. I am still fighting to get a decent trigger on my custom Galil build. Gun is stupid accurate ( very custom barrel and one hell of a builder out of TN) but the trigger is just....blehhhhhhh. The Israeli trigger was bleh...the ALG is bleh...I'll find something one of these days!!!!!!
In this case "chinese" means quality.
@@lilchlor1ne832 I mean, our country isn't the first to spend a shit load on the military, or meddle with other countries. But you're right
@@lilchlor1ne832 Exactly my point. The implied argument that China is only doing well from these negative actions is obsolete, as many countries do the same.
If tyrannical regimes spend money on one thing. it's guns and military equipment.
@@GrottyWanker69 Said by the country of war
杨健 www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-24-mn-7854-story.html There is a reason Chinese Arms in general are banned in the US, it actually has a valid security reason unlike Russian Arms.
editing is on point in this video
Conglaturations on 100k guys :D
Your mix of good info and comedic value made me sub!
Best intro yet! All that was missing was blood on the currency. Thanks for sharing this rifle with us finally! I'm always impressed at what they were able to accomplish with the tech of that day and age. Also, you shooting out to 800 with a 4x optic... (bows down) We are not worthy.
Just discovered your channel. Love it, reminds me of when my dad talked to me all night about rifles. Still a gun nerd because of him.
#RIPThoseDays
"Have you heard of the ATF? I HAVE TWO DOGS" :'D
"And I already ate dinner"
@@jeffstone671 hahahaha OOF
After so many years its still a very impressive rifle. Incredible flight of a thought of Mister Dragunov.
Best video so far. I really like the skit breaks and lessons.
These skits are hilarious. So glad I found your channel.
I love how the subtitles said “captured Russian stds” instead of svds.
Bob Huh?
I dont know which one killed the most.
I watched this 3 times already it's so funny while informative. Awesome guys!
"make more accuracy"
omfg! :D
Been loving the reviews guys…new sub.. I love long range shooting.
Great videos and love the sense of humor with the seriousness of the education and history behind this iconic and loved rifle the SVD series. Whether its the Russian or Chinese Dragunov SVD, beware of the dragon and its flame!!!
Seriously under rated channel!
I would argue that the Dragunov looks a lot more handsome in comparison to western DMRs such as the SR-25 or MK14.
To be fair, as Chan mentioned later in the video, almost all western DMR's were not designed from the ground up as DMR's. I'd like to see some western DMR's there were built to be as such from the ground up, would be a cool thing to see.
@@BelialsGenuflect aren't most western DMR's basically accurized versions of some of their standard rifles? Like the M21 and the HK G28?
@@justineallandevelos6491 indeed
@@BelialsGenuflect even the PSG1 is basically a more perfected G3 if i remember
@@justineallandevelos6491 the HK417 is nobody‘s standard rifle.
😂🤣😂🤣 me expecting the usual utube ad, then we get Henry TV! Love it!
Yeah, I'm gonna say that the breakdown in accuracy that you experienced toward the end of your run was from the barrel heating up.
Henry, love your sense of humour, and the way you take the piss (have fun with) out of your background. Love seeing all the rifles we cant have here in Aussie. Cheers Mate.
Let us all know when you're on vacation in America so we can plan the ultimate 9-hole reviews fanbase range day
Nice into Henry! I wish I had cousins who'd send me their guns just like that.
Hello from new braunfels Texas i just subscribed i love the videos.
The intro to this has me in F'ing tears 🤣
I don't know how I've never seen your videos before but this is great content very informative very entertaining absolutely love the video instant subscribe keep it up
"Have you ever heard of the ATF? I've got two dogs!"
Oof
That opening... *chef kiss*
This goes to show the Dragunov is very accurate in the right hands.
Ahh this was fun to watch, well done
That ringtone :D someones a fan of Archer I see!
I swear I had something for this
@@slaughterchainsaw RAMPAGE!!
Realy like how you talked about the gun and the history of it etc. Nice vid !
too much currency in one box hahaha
I see
Hong Kong
Korea
Japan
China
Singapore
lol
Joe Ç and the brass could have been the mail inspectors shooting a few free rounds. Part of the bribe!
@Joe Ç My local university has a lot of chinese national students...you have no idea how true this is. Local PD had to deal with them trying to bribe them out of speeding tickets multiple times and the university has to tell them outright in the orientation that slapping your girlfriend around in an argument is domestic abuse and is NOT okay.
A rare Singapore paper $2 . Out of production decade ago . Now is all plastic notes that sticks together .
Awesome information about one of my favorite rifles. Thanks for the info about Chinese vs. Russian. Good humor to!
have u heard of the alphabet boyz... I have 2 dogs...most tyrannical thing I heard all day
*Only 18* 👇👇👇
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Still my fav from you guys! hilarious and great shooting with a cool gun.
Laughed very loudly at "have you heard of the ATF? I have 2 dogs!"😂😂😂
You guys became my favorite gun channel. Great content, great shooting and you're funny af.
1 word about this video: perfect 🙏
i keep watching this video just for the intro . just lifts my mood
First time I ever seen a Chinese made clone that was anywhere close to reliable as the original. Granted that this was not a Russian made rifle that shot the 7.62x54R, this was a great video and a amazing rifle. I still would love to see the Russian made version go through the range with you guys. Granted that you guys were talking about the muzzle loads were similar, the .308 and the 7.62x54R, they are not the same.
That is a very cool rifle!! Nice job and thanks!
Fantastic video 👌
Now it’s time for a Gewehr 43 with ZF4!
Thanks youtube. I feel really greatful to show you how SVD works. In a distance, or a wind, or a fast moving car I always get you in a couple of bullets. Weather predictions, laser guidances are not needed. I have a map and I can see leaves trembling.
You guys could do a Yugoslavian Zastava M-76 7,9 mm, a solid semi-auto DMR :)
Синиша Except it string after a fifth shot. Solid! Not even close.
@@Takhor86 Sorry but I don't understand what you are writing. I had basic training with that rifle in the army, and guys from my platoon who were issued with those DMR's droped torso sized targets at 800m with little problems.
Синиша No need to get buttsore about it. I have tested M-76 and PSL against SVD and result was both M-76 andRomanian PSL started to string down after 5th or 6th shot. Still a decent rifle, but no SVD. Not even close.
Mark Vorobiev Interesting, I have never seen that with my M-76 either. Now I have seen my PSL start stringing after the third shot. But, I probably don’t have the same number of data points that you do. You are out of KS, correct ?
winkleried I taught classes there while back.
The little back and forth skit about projectiles was perfect.
"Why are you so angry?"
- "Have you ever heard of the ATF? -- I have two dogs"
You have viewers. Viewers want to see Dragunov SVD. Love this channel.
Have you considered the Yugo M76 using the M75 ammunition? There are reweld projects that have been completed. About as close to original as one may get. There are 6x42 Zrak M93 scopes available with the 7,9 turret
Master Warning Based on my experience with the M75 in the M-76 it was erratic as hell. Commercial FMJ was more accurate than it was. Good luck finding a 6X Zrak. Those are almost unobtanium here in the United States because Bosnia refuses to sell them to us. I found one in Europe with the correct mount, but the seller wanted $800 before shipping.
winkleried hello
I have 3 m76 all produced by two river arms. I’ve got a m93 scope actually...and about 5000 rounds of m75. My luck has been very good..all my m76 have original barrels. One rifle is built on a recut cai receiver..one on a tortort receiver and the other is a reweld. May I ask which commercial ammo do you prefer.
Master Warning For non match Ball ? PPU FMJ. For Match Grade. Either Hornady Vintage Match, or PPU match.
"Have you ever heard of the ATF? I have two dogs!" Priceless. ATF: Attack The Fido's
Best.... Intro.... Ever.......!
"Have you ever heard of the ATF?"
You my friend, are definitely already on a watchlist, still hitting the target at 700 yards is humbling. Well done.
"The SVD isn't accurate like a modern sniper rifle!!!"
Proceeds to stack two rounds at 500 yards on a steel plate...
To be fair, that might not be repeatable. That's why there is no such thing as "2-shot group".
@@BicyclesMayUseFullLane same statement could be applied to every rifle here for the obvious reasons
@@canep well, with this test, at least we can be confident to say which rifle is definitely NOT accurate. LOLTavorLOL
A modern sniper rifle will do that at 1000 meters.
@@jubaldurden4638 Because SVD is a "modern sniper rifle"
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Again another great video keep up the good work!
“Have you heard of the ATF?? I have two dogs!” 😂😂🤣
I have to admit that’s one of my favorite looking rifles.