I wish I’d seen this review two weeks ago. I ordered the Osmo. I’m still learning with it but something you should mention is that the Osmo will not hold an iPhone unless it does NOT have a cover. I have an extremely thin cover but had to remove it to have the Osmo hold the phone. It hasn’t let go of my phone yet, but I’m disappointed in that mount. I worry about the $800 phone constantly.
The Osmo Mobile 2 hold my iPhone XR with a very thick case just fine ^^ and this thing is a beast really I love it so much I'm glad I didn't buy the smooth 4
I have the smooth 4 and love it. I use it with my galaxy s9 and app runs perfectly. Love the trigger on the smooth 4. Highly recommend it as it is in my view better than the osmo. I have DJI drones and they are awesome, but as a gimbal the smooth 4 is the winner in my opinion. Use use FIlmic Pro most of the time.
Had an Osmo 2 for a week and sold it.Had a cheap and nasty feel. The zoom is smoother on the smooth 4. If i was going for an Osmo, I would go the original. Love my Smooth 4, and updates to the android app have fixed any issues
Hi Michael. Which Android phone are you using with the Smooth 4? I'm looking at Samsung S9 / Smooth 4 combo but worried about support for that phone... So you have no issues after the update?
Ben Pyman I have a Samsung S7 edge. The smooth 4 refused to connect, even after updates. In my case it was absolute trash and I had to throw it away ! BTW I deploy 30 cams when filming, & have the Crane 2 as well as the original DJI Osmo mobile.....so I am not ignorant of different cam operating systems. Maybe the smooth 4 I was sent was defective....but it refused to charge completely, and after one day wouldn't turn on......needless to say I was not amused.
My Zhiyun Smooth Q was brilliant in use but only lasted through 6 or 7 sessions before one of the motors went nuts. I sent it back, but it seems to have been lost in the post so, as I've also lost the docket from the post office, I've done my dough. Looking at the DJI OSMO 2 next and hoping it's a little more durable.
I am thinking about buying a Smooth 4, but was wondering whether there has been any improvement in the past year regarding the face tracking .. surely this is a very important feature in any gimbal
I purchased the Smooth 4 for my Galaxy S 7 and had to return it. When I installed the app, there was a popup saying that my phone might not be compatible (their site says it is). No way to close the popup and open the application. I updated the gimbal firmware and re-installed the app like their support said to no effect. Waiting on their return label.
i have both gimble, Zhiyun smooth 4 is winner without any doubt, zhiyun have 1 inbuilt cam software for video, but osmo need third party video app , zhiyun videos are more cinematic , osmo sometimes shakes while using , osmo tracking is more accurate than zhiyun tracking but this function i really dont use so for that reason , actually both gimble are best in own field but if i will chose then it will be smooth 4
Just got a SMooth 4 today and I'm really impressed so far. Purchased it over the Osmo because of this review. Looks like they have fixed up the facial recognition and following in the app - its working really well. Thanks for the review mate! Also, the focus pull is working really well - a lot smoother than I expected. I think I can dump most of my big gear for social media jobs now!
Smooth Q - 360 degree pan and can roll. Or the FreeVision Vilta M - also 360 degree pan and a wider roll range. Smooth 4, and DJI cannot pan 360 degrees, Smooth 4 has no roll control.
I used the Smooth 4 for the latest car review. Only issue was that the gimbal kept shutting down, dropping the phone from landscape to portrait. It happened randomly. Also; using the app eat the battery in minutes (fully charged iPhone SE). But when it was working it was great for panning and low-to-the-ground filming of a stationary object.
This is a very sober, professional video without bells or whistles! A very qualitative review, Justin. One that thoroughly informed me. I've gladly subscribed. Unfortunately (?) I bought the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 before finding this video. Hopefully I won't find the controls as lacking they seemed.
Hi Justin! I have not tried using a gimbal but after your video I will consider buying one that you recommend. Thank you for taking your time to demo & review esp I do appreciate your honest opinion of the products. Look forward to more!
I did so much research on this.... I had the osmo Mobile 1 and it broke twice (overheating motors) after iphonedos review on the smooth 4 that kept me away from it... so I did something random and got the SMOVE... and that thing is actually pretty awesome
Bro i am not to professional but i am still confused to choose which one i watch the video i like the face tracking to i think in over all zhiyun is good please suggest me one i am still confused Hoping for your help
Justin. Great review! You are very watchable and so informative. Thank you. I need to know though - since the release of the Osmo 3 fold-able option + restoration of the back button etc. and the Osmo 3 £99 price vs Smooth 4 at £109, do you still stand by your preference of the Smooth 4?
Hi Justin, Will you be updating the review to cover the DJI OSMO Mobile 3? How does this compare to the Zhiyun Smooth 4 now? Do you ever factor in customer service with your reviews?
Great video but I am stuck on this dilemma on which one to choose. As on date August 2018, have you seen any major update for the iOS devices? I use an iPhone 8 Plus.. I am leaning towards Osmo 2 but I like the trigger and additional controls on the Smooth 4 but am not sure about the App.
Great question! The two were similar but we did notice the when we had the osmo 2 and an iphone connected that was the fastest battery drain as a combination. Not too much of a difference but it was noticeable.
Zihyun haven’t been able to get face tracking right during production life of their Smooth Q, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. As you stated, that single feature is the most significant distinguishing factor between the two gimbals. Thanks for a great review.
I got the Smooth 4 over the Osmo 2 days ago. I should say the only achiles’ heel it has is the lack of joystick. Overall? I had complete control over what I want the gimbal to do. But then again it goes down to preferences🙂
Excellent video and very helpful review. Has the updates on Zhiyun Smooth 4 helped to improve the experience for Android, esp face/object tracking, app hanging issues? Any other Gimbal that you would recommend now after almost 6 months since this video? I will use it with the OnePlus 7 Pro and some time with the iPhone Xr.
Hi Justin, you did a superb video and it is much appreciated. I also appreciated the reference to the FilMic Pro and I will look at your video more closely later. It is now January 2020 and I was wondering if there has been any software update to the Smooth 4. I believe that the one I'm going to buy. Kindest regards, Joe
They do seem to release updates to the app quite frequently which is good! I haven't really put this up against any of the newer stabilizers, it's still my go-to though
The very best gimbal is the Free Fly Movi. I have it and I love it. I can use my Moment lenses with my Samsung note 9 and with counterweights it works perfectly. I've tried all the others and only the Free Fly Movi can handle the weight of the Sam note 9 and Moment lenses.
Thank you for your review! I would like to have seen your test results while running, and with the units attached to a bicycle for trail and mountain-bike racing. How do they standup? The Osmo 1 had a bracket that could be attached to a cycle, using a socket in the side of the unit I was looking at buying - is it still possible with the Osmo 2? How stable are both products in panoramic mode, with a wire dangling out the side, to hookup an external microphone like the Rode (with the Rode mounted separately on a bar using the tripod socket)? I use an iPhone 7 plus for shooting video - using an external mic really makes a big dif for clarity and in windy conditions. With both units, does the position of the camera make a difference to the stabilizer operation? By that I mean, if I have the cam lens to the right where the stabilizer arm is, so I can attach the wires for an external mic on the left side, will it still function fine in this mode? You briefly mentioned the wire hindrance in portrait orientation vs pano mode at 5:38 in, I would like to know if the cam position in the holder makes a difference. And as the owner of the Osmo 2, with its sealed in place battery, do you like the Osmo 2 better than the Osmo 1, with its removable batteries (which can be changed on an extended shoot)? What was the charging time, from empty to full charge? Did you test? I appreciated you brief discussion re the differences between the Osmo 1 and 2. It almost sounds like the Osmo 1 is still the better of the two units despite the larger battery in Osmo 2! FYI - I have Filmic Pro for my iPhone 7 Plus, and just downloaded the latest update. It supports both versions of the DJI Osmo, but not any of the Zhiyun products, at least not from the notes on the App store website. Company wise, I suspect DJI is a far larger company with more products under its belt, such as drones, plus accessories, than Zhiyun. Thanks again for this review, as I make a decision which one to buy for my first stabilizer! I've been subscribed for a while, following your videos and valued tips. Much appreciated! Cheers from Montreal.
Thanks for the feedback Frederic, lots of questions there haha! Best bet would be to head to a camera shop that sells both and test them out for yourself and your specific use cases.. All the best!
Just a heads up. I have the Freevision Vilta M Pro and you can no longer use the app or update it via the App Store on IOS. Justin if you can find a way to update the software in iOS or how to fix that it would be amazing! Otherwise I have a $150 paperweight
Fantastic video! I've been looking at both deciding which to purchase...your tests & this video locked in my decision...going with the Zhiyun Smooth 4 hands down. I like having the controls at my fingertips, really like that it comes with a tripod and imo it's just higher quality construction.
Hi Justin, nice review, after watching your video I am niw considering to buy a gimbal. One question. I am a disabled person, I have a walking problem. Can I get stabilized footage? I mean straight and not shaky, thanks
Hi Justin Going to buy the Zhiyun Smooth 4 as I'm buying a Note 8 (it has a headphone jack!) .... however I keep reading about issues for android users?? The software is not working with android very well??
I recently purchased the new Mini Mi3 due to all of the bad reviews about the Osmo's so badly working with android devices. After watching your video it appears that the Mini mi 3 is much the same as the Asmo with the exception of price and the Mini Mi will also charge your phone while it is attached to the gimble wirelessly. Currently I am using a Pixel II XL software that is on the phone along with the Moda Genie app? Loren & Baby
Hi Justin, I hope you can & will answer my questions, I have two of them. A quick explanation, I'm a content creator for youtube, not yet upto monetising but hopefully soon. I am looking at buying my first gimbal and I know you have an Samsung Galaxy S9 plus as do I. My phone is in a heavy duty aluminium case and I really hope I don't have to remove it. Hence my questions are: 1)what is the maximum weight that the zhiyun can cope with (I already know that the DJI isn't suitable as the phone + case combined weight is over 500 grams)? 2) can the jaws of the zhiyun cope with opening to 100mm (width of case is over 900mm). A third and final question comes to mind, is there any gimbal in the budget end of the field that can satisfy this criteria?
Hello, thanks for the great and helpful videos! - Does the Zhiyun S 4 accept the Samsung Note 9 in a Otterbox Defender Case? and I heard there are some issues with the gimbal and android phones... are those resolved? Thanks!!
Ugh! Just received my Osmo Mobile 2 after reading an earlier video recommendation from you, and feeling a bit disappointed, as it seems I maybe shouldn’t have. However, I’m going to keep it and hope for the best! To be honest, I don’t know the first thing about using either one. Do you have a video about actually setting one up for use? I’m just trying to set up a little place in my house for vlogging. I didn’t grow up with this technology. I’m 77.
Hello, after watching your comparison, I'm leaning toward to the Smooth 4. I have an iPhone X. I am wondering if you know whether or not they fixed the face tracking bug? I am hoping so since this video is from last year. Any info would be helpful. Thanks so much.
Hi Justin I just got the Shure MV88 iOS Digital Stereo Condenser Microphone and might have to return it if I’m going to get the Zhiyun smooth 4. What do you microphone do you think will pair with the smooth 4 perfectly?
I attached a mounting bracket to the bottom of the unit so i could put a rode video micro microphone on, or a rode filmmaker kit wireless mic. There's a photo in my instagram feed showing what it looks like
Great review! I have been sooting rugby matches with my DSLR and mounting my iPhone to the hotshot mount. I've had decent success but would like to improve my results with image stabilization. These products look promising. My biggest concern would be weight. Any suggestions, feedback etc.?
Hi Justin! You've done it again with a video that handled all my questions. Can I film with an Otter Box case on my iphone XS Max, or does it need to be taken off for filming? I'm a hairstylist filming videos for my YT Channel. Thanks so much! Hello from San Diego 😃
Thanks again for such a comprehensive gear review. Good to see the two gimbals side by side. Thanks for sharing such good content. The Smooth 4 shines.
Thanks for your review. Can you use smooth 4 with samsung galaxy s9? Also has the software been improved with regards to using android phones with the smooth 4?
Was about to get a Zhiyun Smooth Q but the local supplier told me Smooth 4 is the latest version. I went home searching for any youtube review and found this one :) Getting the Smooth 4 soon! I also have bought the Techo lens for smartphone from the other video based on your recommendation. But I think i got the rip off version. :( It worked but couldve been better if ive gotten the original one.
Good review, I want to buy a smooth 4 but it's from 2018. And I have the samsung s10+ . It's your model 2019?? Do you know if 2018 smooth would works ok?
Hi Justin, Great video! I'm considering getting a gimbal, and almost considered the Zhiyun. The problem is the Zhiyun app is buggy and I don't trust them on resolving it anytime soon like they claim (based on reviews of the Smooth Q that also had issues). Makes it tough to choose - I do like the idea of face tracking, but might benefit from the controls on the Zhiyun more. That said, if I've never used a gimbal before, maybe the Osmo 2 will be good enough. Decisions.......
The new version of the Zhiyun app is a lot better but honestly I don't use the built in app for either stabilizer. I use the gimbal to do the stabilization and use either filmic pro or the build in camera apps to do the recording. If you want face tracking and all the other bells and whistles then yes, the app will play a big role there 😀
Smooth 4 SUCKS! It is jittery and NOT smooth at all specially when running! The app also is not friendly! You recommend this garbage because you got it for free and sucking up with the chinese manufacturer! DJI IS MUCH BETTER!
@@PrimalVideo Is the tracking malfunctioning on both the camera or just the front facing? And I hope they continue working on the front face camera tracking!
Hey Justin great video, can you help me please, i have Osmo 2, however i do not look centred when filming myself, it looks like I'm not looking directly into the camera, what am i doing wrong? Thank you so much.
Awesome! Thank you so much for this video. I’m just starting out in the video world and have been on the fence about these two. So your information was very needed.
Any information about the fact the Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9 plus won't work with third party camera apps? E.G. Filmic pro? I bought the app and it simply won't work. I've read it's the snapdragon cpu that causes the issue. Do you know if this will be remedied in the future? Great vid btw, I bought the smooth 4. Zihyun's app doesn't work with the S9 either, just letting you all know.
Hi Justin. Excellent video, though I’m still trying to decide whether I should purchase the dji or smooth 4. Now that the zhiyun is compatible with filmic pro, do you find it to be a dji killer? I’m very interested in the follow mode, but you and another reviewer seem to like the lock and switch features on the zhiyun. You’re opinion.
Useful review - thanks. I've just got the OSMO Mobile 2 - for me it has the edge because it's slightly smaller - I'm accumulating so much camera gear to lug around!
I wish I’d seen this review two weeks ago. I ordered the Osmo. I’m still learning with it but something you should mention is that the Osmo will not hold an iPhone unless it does NOT have a cover. I have an extremely thin cover but had to remove it to have the Osmo hold the phone. It hasn’t let go of my phone yet, but I’m disappointed in that mount. I worry about the $800 phone constantly.
Mia Anstine It won't hold my iPhone X with a cover on but it did hold my iPhone 7 plus because the X is a little thicker :(
the osmo hold my iphone 8 with a case just fine. I really like the app and the time-lapse features especially.
The Osmo Mobile 2 hold my iPhone XR with a very thick case just fine ^^ and this thing is a beast really I love it so much I'm glad I didn't buy the smooth 4
I've watched 10+ of these types of videos and after 4 minutes you've already covered more pertinent info than most.
Awesome! Thanks Brendan!
The only RUclipsr I trust .
Haha thanks mate!
I have the smooth 4 and love it.
I use it with my galaxy s9 and app runs perfectly.
Love the trigger on the smooth 4.
Highly recommend it as it is in my view better than the osmo.
I have DJI drones and they are awesome, but as a gimbal the smooth 4 is the winner in my opinion.
Use use FIlmic Pro most of the time.
👍 👌
Just ordered the Smooth 4 so thank you for helping me decide.
Awesome! No problem Stephen!
Had an Osmo 2 for a week and sold it.Had a cheap and nasty feel. The zoom is smoother on the smooth 4. If i was going for an Osmo, I would go the original. Love my Smooth 4, and updates to the android app have fixed any issues
Nice!!! Thanks for sharing your feedback on these units too - I think I'd go the osmo 1 over the 2 as well.
Hi Michael. Which Android phone are you using with the Smooth 4?
I'm looking at Samsung S9 / Smooth 4 combo but worried about support for that phone... So you have no issues after the update?
s9 Plus
That's encouraging Michael... So many conflicting comments on what does and doesn't work on Android.
Are you having any luck with active tracking?
Ben Pyman I have a Samsung S7 edge. The smooth 4 refused to connect, even after updates. In my case it was absolute trash and I had to throw it away ! BTW I deploy 30 cams when filming, & have the Crane 2 as well as the original DJI Osmo mobile.....so I am not ignorant of different cam operating systems. Maybe the smooth 4 I was sent was defective....but it refused to charge completely, and after one day wouldn't turn on......needless to say I was not amused.
My Zhiyun Smooth Q was brilliant in use but only lasted through 6 or 7 sessions before one of the motors went nuts. I sent it back, but it seems to have been lost in the post so, as I've also lost the docket from the post office, I've done my dough. Looking at the DJI OSMO 2 next and hoping it's a little more durable.
How's the object tracking with the 2019-05 updates? Any improvement? I would like to know more not just the hardware but the software.
I am thinking about buying a Smooth 4, but was wondering whether there has been any improvement in the past year regarding the face tracking .. surely this is a very important feature in any gimbal
I purchased the Smooth 4 for my Galaxy S 7 and had to return it. When I installed the app, there was a popup saying that my phone might not be compatible (their site says it is). No way to close the popup and open the application. I updated the gimbal firmware and re-installed the app like their support said to no effect. Waiting on their return label.
I have note 9 and not working with smooth 4
Did the v1.77 Firmware update (that became available after this video was made) improve object tracking in the Zhiyun Smooth 4?
i have both gimble, Zhiyun smooth 4 is winner without any doubt, zhiyun have 1 inbuilt cam software for video, but osmo need third party video app , zhiyun videos are more cinematic , osmo sometimes shakes while using , osmo tracking is more accurate than zhiyun tracking but this function i really dont use so for that reason , actually both gimble are best in own field but if i will chose then it will be smooth 4
This was by far the most effective review I saw so far between any two products. Also best explanatory video. Thnks so much for this
Just got a SMooth 4 today and I'm really impressed so far. Purchased it over the Osmo because of this review. Looks like they have fixed up the facial recognition and following in the app - its working really well. Thanks for the review mate!
Also, the focus pull is working really well - a lot smoother than I expected. I think I can dump most of my big gear for social media jobs now!
Awesome, glad to hear you're impressed with it! Thanks!
Filmic now fully supports smooth 4.
Even on Os? Or just iOS?
@@jesujunio9991 both on android n ios
so confusing !!!!!! every reviewer says different. i dont know which one to order
Try to visit a camera shop or electronics store and see if you can try both and see which one suits you best
Smooth Q - 360 degree pan and can roll. Or the FreeVision Vilta M - also 360 degree pan and a wider roll range. Smooth 4, and DJI cannot pan 360 degrees, Smooth 4 has no roll control.
ALEX BOBROV They can’t make your mind up for you. Pick one and if you don’t like it then return it.
Smooth 4 = Great For Ios Users Osmo Mobile 2 = Great For Android Users Its Like That In My Opinion I Have The Smooth 4 Its Great :)
Me too
I used the Smooth 4 for the latest car review. Only issue was that the gimbal kept shutting down, dropping the phone from landscape to portrait. It happened randomly. Also; using the app eat the battery in minutes (fully charged iPhone SE). But when it was working it was great for panning and low-to-the-ground filming of a stationary object.
Great review. We were going back and forth on which one to choose and Zhiyun Smooth 4 wins!
Awesome! I haven't used the Osmo since this review.. definitely prefer the Smooth 4
Most basic explanation I was looking for. Good job mate.
Awesome
This is a very sober, professional video without bells or whistles!
A very qualitative review, Justin. One that thoroughly informed me.
I've gladly subscribed. Unfortunately (?) I bought the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 before finding this video. Hopefully I won't find the controls as lacking they seemed.
Great review. You'r the second person who picked the Smooth 4. Seems like a reasonable price for all you get.
Definitely a great gimbal option! Thanks Linda!
Hi Justin! I have not tried using a gimbal but after your video I will consider buying one that you recommend. Thank you for taking your time to demo & review esp I do appreciate your honest opinion of the products. Look forward to more!
Thank you - I can definitely recommend either of these two, they're amazing tools 😀
Don't, Zhiyun app its a joke especially for android, just read the reviews on Google play, I'm sending mine back.
Right ok thank you Cute Tiger for taking the time to reply appreciate it...
Magdalena Koh your welcome
CuteTiger that’s just silly. The smooth 4 has a native integration with Filmic Pro - which is awesome!!!
I did so much research on this.... I had the osmo Mobile 1 and it broke twice (overheating motors) after iphonedos review on the smooth 4 that kept me away from it... so I did something random and got the SMOVE... and that thing is actually pretty awesome
Bro i am not to professional but i am still confused to choose which one i watch the video i like the face tracking to i think in over all zhiyun is good please suggest me one i am still confused
Hoping for your help
without any doubt winner is zhiyun
Very very helpful! Thank you!! I like the disclaimer that you are not sponsored. Pls keep it going!
No problem!
Justin. Great review! You are very watchable and so informative. Thank you. I need to know though - since the release of the Osmo 3 fold-able option + restoration of the back button etc. and the Osmo 3 £99 price vs Smooth 4 at £109, do you still stand by your preference of the Smooth 4?
I haven't compared the Osmo 3 to the Smooth 4 or others yet
I have the Moto G6 Play by Android, will either of these work with it??
Hi Justin. Will you please upload a video on good lenses kit for mobile, please.
As of 2019 the Zhiyun doesn't work well on Android. In fact, it never has. I don't know what you're talking about.
Best review presentation by far. I appreciate you being so thorough! Im probably gona go with the Osmo and get Filmic. Thank you sir!
So awesome to hear it, thanks!!
Hi Justin, Will you be updating the review to cover the DJI OSMO Mobile 3? How does this compare to the Zhiyun Smooth 4 now? Do you ever factor in customer service with your reviews?
I found this to be very useful - thanks!
Which of the two gimbals has the best integration with FilMic Pro?
Cheers.
Will you be doing an update or a review of the DJI OM-4?
Thank you for this video. I knew not the first thing about gimbal mounts going in. This video is a smasher!
Great video but I am stuck on this dilemma on which one to choose. As on date August 2018, have you seen any major update for the iOS devices? I use an iPhone 8 Plus.. I am leaning towards Osmo 2 but I like the trigger and additional controls on the Smooth 4 but am not sure about the App.
Which gimbal drained your smartphone battery more while using their own app?
Great question! The two were similar but we did notice the when we had the osmo 2 and an iphone connected that was the fastest battery drain as a combination. Not too much of a difference but it was noticeable.
Justin Brown - Primal Video thanks for the answer!
Movi Cinema Robot
I just got the Osmo and I love it. Just takes some getting use to.
Awesome! Glad you’re liking it 😊
Justin Brown - Primal Video my only qualm is I can’t flip from front to back camera while recording. Thanks for the helpful video though.
Hi Justin, is there an ‘Camera jittering’ issue when using a gimbal & an iPhone that has ibis? Some reviews suggest there is? Cheers
Zihyun haven’t been able to get face tracking right during production life of their Smooth Q, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. As you stated, that single feature is the most significant distinguishing factor between the two gimbals. Thanks for a great review.
Great Video!
DJI OSMO 2 for me. Making a hyper lapse is much beter because of the tracking compared with the Smooth 4
I got the Smooth 4 over the Osmo 2 days ago. I should say the only achiles’ heel it has is the lack of joystick. Overall? I had complete control over what I want the gimbal to do. But then again it goes down to preferences🙂
Excellent video and very helpful review.
Has the updates on Zhiyun Smooth 4 helped to improve the experience for Android, esp face/object tracking, app hanging issues?
Any other Gimbal that you would recommend now after almost 6 months since this video? I will use it with the OnePlus 7 Pro and some time with the iPhone Xr.
Hi Justin, you did a superb video and it is much appreciated. I also appreciated the reference to the FilMic Pro and I will look at your video more closely later. It is now January 2020 and I was wondering if there has been any software update to the Smooth 4. I believe that the one I'm going to buy.
Kindest regards,
Joe
They do seem to release updates to the app quite frequently which is good! I haven't really put this up against any of the newer stabilizers, it's still my go-to though
The very best gimbal is the Free Fly Movi. I have it and I love it. I can use my Moment lenses with my Samsung note 9 and with counterweights it works perfectly.
I've tried all the others and only the Free Fly Movi can handle the weight of the Sam note 9 and Moment lenses.
Interesting to know! Thanks for the insight!
Thank you for your review! I would like to have seen your test results while running, and with the units attached to a bicycle for trail and mountain-bike racing. How do they standup?
The Osmo 1 had a bracket that could be attached to a cycle, using a socket in the side of the unit I was looking at buying - is it still possible with the Osmo 2?
How stable are both products in panoramic mode, with a wire dangling out the side, to hookup an external microphone like the Rode (with the Rode mounted separately on a bar using the tripod socket)? I use an iPhone 7 plus for shooting video - using an external mic really makes a big dif for clarity and in windy conditions.
With both units, does the position of the camera make a difference to the stabilizer operation? By that I mean, if I have the cam lens to the right where the stabilizer arm is, so I can attach the wires for an external mic on the left side, will it still function fine in this mode? You briefly mentioned the wire hindrance in portrait orientation vs pano mode at 5:38 in, I would like to know if the cam position in the holder makes a difference.
And as the owner of the Osmo 2, with its sealed in place battery, do you like the Osmo 2 better than the Osmo 1, with its removable batteries (which can be changed on an extended shoot)? What was the charging time, from empty to full charge? Did you test?
I appreciated you brief discussion re the differences between the Osmo 1 and 2. It almost sounds like the Osmo 1 is still the better of the two units despite the larger battery in Osmo 2!
FYI - I have Filmic Pro for my iPhone 7 Plus, and just downloaded the latest update. It supports both versions of the DJI Osmo, but not any of the Zhiyun products, at least not from the notes on the App store website. Company wise, I suspect DJI is a far larger company with more products under its belt, such as drones, plus accessories, than Zhiyun.
Thanks again for this review, as I make a decision which one to buy for my first stabilizer! I've been subscribed for a while, following your videos and valued tips. Much appreciated!
Cheers from Montreal.
Thanks for the feedback Frederic, lots of questions there haha! Best bet would be to head to a camera shop that sells both and test them out for yourself and your specific use cases.. All the best!
Just a heads up. I have the Freevision Vilta M Pro and you can no longer use the app or update it via the App Store on IOS. Justin if you can find a way to update the software in iOS or how to fix that it would be amazing! Otherwise I have a $150 paperweight
Fantastic video! I've been looking at both deciding which to purchase...your tests & this video locked in my decision...going with the Zhiyun Smooth 4 hands down. I like having the controls at my fingertips, really like that it comes with a tripod and imo it's just higher quality construction.
Nice! Yep those were the key features for me too
Great video. Thank you. I’ll be buying based off your review
Thanks Ray!
Hi Justin, nice review, after watching your video I am niw considering to buy a gimbal. One question. I am a disabled person, I have a walking problem. Can I get stabilized footage? I mean straight and not shaky, thanks
I am actually looking for a gimbal for my iphone, so the video was very helpful . Thanks for sharing.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful 😀
Which one did you buy?
Very informative. Thanks!
I have a Note 5 and coming soon a Note 8 so which one do you think is best for me ?
Kindly suggest me which one is best zhiyun 4 or dji osmo 2? Because I am confuse which one of them I should buy
Wouldnt have made the right decision, thank you for taking the time and effort, really appreciate it!!
Thanks for the honest and detailed review. After watching this video, I have made my mind and going to buy one this week.
Hi Justin Going to buy the Zhiyun Smooth 4 as I'm buying a Note 8 (it has a headphone jack!) .... however I keep reading about issues for android users?? The software is not working with android very well??
Thank you Justin! That was an outstanding video! I was gifted my Smooth 4 last week and you were very concise and fair in your review. Great job!
Thanks mate!
I recently purchased the new Mini Mi3 due to all of the bad reviews about the Osmo's so badly working with android devices. After watching your video it appears that the Mini mi 3 is much the same as the Asmo with the exception of price and the Mini Mi will also charge your phone while it is attached to the gimble wirelessly. Currently I am using a Pixel II XL software that is on the phone along with the Moda Genie app?
Loren & Baby
so i want a gimbal for online streaming through mobile which one should i buy?
Hi Justin, I hope you can & will answer my questions, I have two of them. A quick explanation, I'm a content creator for youtube, not yet upto monetising but hopefully soon. I am looking at buying my first gimbal and I know you have an Samsung Galaxy S9 plus as do I. My phone is in a heavy duty aluminium case and I really hope I don't have to remove it. Hence my questions are:
1)what is the maximum weight that the zhiyun can cope with (I already know that the DJI isn't suitable as the phone + case combined weight is over 500 grams)?
2) can the jaws of the zhiyun cope with opening to 100mm (width of case is over 900mm).
A third and final question comes to mind, is there any gimbal in the budget end of the field that can satisfy this criteria?
The pan and tilt function from the z4 produces such stunning results 😍🎬
Yep - I'm a fan!
Hello, thanks for the great and helpful videos! - Does the Zhiyun S 4 accept the Samsung Note 9 in a Otterbox Defender Case? and I heard there are some issues with the gimbal and android phones... are those resolved? Thanks!!
Very good review. Love the beach video. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😃
Ugh! Just received my Osmo Mobile 2 after reading an earlier video recommendation from you, and feeling a bit disappointed, as it seems I maybe shouldn’t have. However, I’m going to keep it and hope for the best! To be honest, I don’t know the first thing about using either one. Do you have a video about actually setting one up for use? I’m just trying to set up a little place in my house for vlogging. I didn’t grow up with this technology. I’m 77.
I have the dji and that's a beast 👌🔥🔥🔥
Hello, after watching your comparison, I'm leaning toward to the Smooth 4. I have an iPhone X. I am wondering if you know whether or not they fixed the face tracking bug? I am hoping so since this video is from last year. Any info would be helpful. Thanks so much.
I haven't tested it again with an iphone x.. but it seems to be a lot better with the Galaxy S10+
Any idea if there are any new Gimbals models from both the companies are coming up in this year 2019?
Hi Justin
I just got the Shure MV88 iOS Digital Stereo Condenser Microphone and might have to return it if I’m going to get the Zhiyun smooth 4. What do you microphone do you think will pair with the smooth 4 perfectly?
I attached a mounting bracket to the bottom of the unit so i could put a rode video micro microphone on, or a rode filmmaker kit wireless mic. There's a photo in my instagram feed showing what it looks like
Alright. Buying the Zhiyun. Thank you so much for the info!
Nice choice! Thanks!
Great review! I have been sooting rugby matches with my DSLR and mounting my iPhone to the hotshot mount. I've had decent success but would like to improve my results with image stabilization. These products look promising. My biggest concern would be weight. Any suggestions, feedback etc.?
Great video, I use the original osmo mobile and it works a treat. Don't think I will upgrade as it fits the build for me so far.
Thanks, I like the control and feel of the osmo 1 but the extra battery life is really nice too 😉
Justin, how in the world do you talk that fast and string all those thoughts together without jump cut editing? It's amazing.
Hi Justin! You've done it again with a video that handled all my questions. Can I film with an Otter Box case on my iphone XS Max, or does it need to be taken off for filming? I'm a hairstylist filming videos for my YT Channel. Thanks so much! Hello from San Diego 😃
These are still good options, the new DJI Osmo Mobile units have upgraded a bit from here
Thanks again for such a comprehensive gear review. Good to see the two gimbals side by side. Thanks for sharing such good content. The Smooth 4 shines.
Hi Justin, Great video. Can you tell whether Zhiyun Smooth 4 works with Filmic Pro on an android device or not?
yes, its work. ruclips.net/video/iVA9JA-P-yQ/видео.html
Great review , it definitely let me the difference between these two gimbals
I find little info on the supported size for both models, do they support wide screen phones like mate 10, note 9 or so?
Great video . And. I love the way you working hard and. Also great video like always and. I was looking for a gimbal . And it helped me a lot
Thanks mate, glad you liked it!
Thanks for your review. Can you use smooth 4 with samsung galaxy s9? Also has the software been improved with regards to using android phones with the smooth 4?
Yes, s9 works well, and Yes the software has been improved a lot :)
@@PrimalVideo thanks.
Was about to get a Zhiyun Smooth Q but the local supplier told me Smooth 4 is the latest version. I went home searching for any youtube review and found this one :)
Getting the Smooth 4 soon!
I also have bought the Techo lens for smartphone from the other video based on your recommendation. But I think i got the rip off version. :(
It worked but couldve been better if ive gotten the original one.
Do these work with filmic pro? What about external mic?
Very helpful! Just used your link to buy the smooth 4..thanks a lot for the great comparison!
Ah cool! Thanks for that 🙏
Thanks for doing a thorough review of these two gimbals. Very well done.
Thanks Ron! Glad you liked it 😃
Guess who I ran into with my new iPhone Zhiyun :D Thanks for the review, can't wait to play with it!
No problem, Holly! Enjoy the Zhiyun! 😊
Hi Justin. Great video. Question: Have Zhiyun fixed the problem with Object motion tracking yet?
It works a lot better now, but still not as good as the osmo i think for that
It’s going to b my first gymbal what do u recommend ?
Good review, I want to buy a smooth 4 but it's from 2018. And I have the samsung s10+ . It's your model 2019?? Do you know if 2018 smooth would works ok?
I have the 2018 smooth 4 and it works ok with my s10+
Hi Justin,
Great video! I'm considering getting a gimbal, and almost considered the Zhiyun. The problem is the Zhiyun app is buggy and I don't trust them on resolving it anytime soon like they claim (based on reviews of the Smooth Q that also had issues).
Makes it tough to choose - I do like the idea of face tracking, but might benefit from the controls on the Zhiyun more. That said, if I've never used a gimbal before, maybe the Osmo 2 will be good enough.
Decisions.......
The new version of the Zhiyun app is a lot better but honestly I don't use the built in app for either stabilizer. I use the gimbal to do the stabilization and use either filmic pro or the build in camera apps to do the recording. If you want face tracking and all the other bells and whistles then yes, the app will play a big role there 😀
Smooth 4 SUCKS! It is jittery and NOT smooth at all specially when running! The app also is not friendly! You recommend this garbage because you got it for free and sucking up with the chinese manufacturer! DJI IS MUCH BETTER!
How do you think the smooth 4 compares to the Osmo 2 as far as time-lapse functions go?
Zhiyun Smooth 4: can it handle & well balanced when putting on a lense & ND Filter (Samsung Galaxy 10e Plus or Iphone XR? thanks Justin!
👍No worries Hoan!
Hey, i need some help, which one is better for sport ( with horizontal and vertical movements ) dji osmo 2 or smooth 4 ?
Hey Justin, thanks for the review, great video. Do you know if Smooth 4 sorted out the follow mode?
They've made it better but it's still not quite as good as face tracking on the osmo
@@PrimalVideo Is the tracking malfunctioning on both the camera or just the front facing? And I hope they continue working on the front face camera tracking!
Hey Justin great video, can you help me please, i have Osmo 2, however i do not look centred when filming myself, it looks like I'm not looking directly into the camera, what am i doing wrong? Thank you so much.
I'd like to hear more about if there were differences between Android and IOS? Is another better for Android or vice versa?
Awesome! Thank you so much for this video. I’m just starting out in the video world and have been on the fence about these two. So your information was very needed.
Thanks Saundra, hope this video helped!
Any information about the fact the Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9 plus won't work with third party camera apps? E.G. Filmic pro? I bought the app and it simply won't work. I've read it's the snapdragon cpu that causes the issue. Do you know if this will be remedied in the future? Great vid btw, I bought the smooth 4. Zihyun's app doesn't work with the S9 either, just letting you all know.
Hi Justin. Excellent video, though I’m still trying to decide whether I should purchase the dji or smooth 4. Now that the zhiyun is compatible with filmic pro, do you find it to be a dji killer? I’m very interested in the follow mode, but you and another reviewer seem to like the lock and switch features on the zhiyun. You’re opinion.
Also, has zhiyun updated the follow mode software?
Now supports Filmic Pro!
Great comparison review Justin. Now I can make my decision much easier!
Useful review - thanks. I've just got the OSMO Mobile 2 - for me it has the edge because it's slightly smaller - I'm accumulating so much camera gear to lug around!
Thanks! Yep, both are great options for stabilized footage!
Great review! Thank You. I'm thinking about buying Smooth 4 but I need to ask if they fix this facetracking bug?
It's a lot better than it was in the video here, but still not quite as good as the osmo mobile 2 for face tracking
@@PrimalVideo Thank You :)