I always wonder if the folks speaking negativly about the timemaster own the mower. first and foremost its a "Home Owner" mower. So an hour of non stop mowing time is completely sufficient as most home owners will complete the mowing under that time so the tank size is fine. So that means they will fuel the mower once a week before they mow thier property. Many of the reviews are lawn company owners. Commercial application has different stressors that add to wear and tear, multiple users, loading/unloading, different terrains/weather conditions, different maintance schedule. The main reason we see so many commercial applications is because its the best $1000 30" mower made hands down. But using a "home owner" mower in commercial applications brings with it many problems not experienced with designed use. So yes the mowers has faults and these faults are agitated with commercial application. I've owned mine since 2018. The B&S 223cc moter has been flawless, abolutely no issue with the electric start(I've only had it on a charger twice), belts and drive train. I bump the starter once or twice then hit it and she starts right up. The cut quality is great and it mulches great(which is my main use). I find the bagging to be excellent. I will say that my Honda HRX has a better cut quaility when mulching, but its specifically designed for that application. The home ownwers here in DFW seem to like the 2.25 or 2.75 cut height better then 2.5/3.0. Toro is on this scale. The mowers personal pace system is fantastic, but the mower may struggle at times going uphill depending on grade. Through the years I've aquired side jobs and in 2021 I formed a DBA and got insurance. I used my Timemaster & HRX during that formative years. I got several smaller commercial properties and now use a Ferris FW15 for those properties(Its a beast) with the old Timemaster on the trailer standing by for the light work.
Was thinking of getting the Ferris with caster wheels for 3k but I only have 5 houses I cut. Is it worth it do you think as I build up? I use a 21 inch cub cadet and have some hills that kill me. the time master looks good but if it struggles up hills maybe it’s a bad choice
How long do you have before you make that decision to buy a mower? I say that because I'll do a video for you showing if it can go up hills well or not
I started a lawn business as a retirement job about 3 years ago. I only do about 30 yards a week as a solo operator. I purchased a Timemaster as my first 30" mower. I understand that it is a residential mower. In the last half of the first season, I started having problems with the idler pulleys failing. Watched a Taryl Fixes All video on replacing them with metal commercial pulleys instead of the plastic ones that come on it. I haven't had a problem with the pulleys since. I believe it is a pulley for an Exmark. I did purchase a Scag SFC 30" as well. I used it about 4 times, sold it, and bought another Timemaster so I had a spare. The Scag actually gave a slightly better cut, but there is about a 90 pound difference in the weight. The Timemaster is about 140 pounds and the Scag SFC is about 230 pounds. That 90 pound difference makes a huge difference after a day of mowing. Now, 3 years into my retirement job, I'm still using the same Timemaster I bought 3 years ago. Yes, daily use does result in some parts wearing out, but you have to expect that in a commercial setting where I'm doing that many yards a week. For a home owner, it might take 3 years for you to wear out the first set of idler pulleys. Also, the gas tank is to small. You can get more volume by removing the anti splash sponge they put in it. If you fill it up with the sponge removed, you will most likely have some gas vibrate out of the cap. Don't fill it above the bottom of the fill neck and that pretty much eliminates the problem. You can also put an extra O-ring at the base of the gas cap and that will take care of the issue. I have replaced the blade engagement cable and the kill switch on both of the mowers as well. I did eventually replace the idler pulleys on my second Timemaster when the original ones wore out on it as well. I love my Timemaster mowers! Also, just a hint, I found my second one on Facebook Marketplace for considerably less than you can buy it at the store. I actually saved about $500 on that purchase. It was new and had never cut grass. He had 3 of them still in the original boxes.
Good video and liked hearing from RamRod. Time Master is my dream mower but can't justify with my two aging Recyclers, they 're just built to well and probably will never quit!
I’ve been using mine to mow 20,000 square feet of cool season salad bar since we got our place in spring 2019. I had a JD 21” and was not interested in mowing all this with that mower even once. Can confirm, I mow the smaller front yard, refuel and mow the back. Our grading is probably worse than Ramrods but at the higher cool-season HOC I don’t get the scalping issues you’ll see in shorter stuff. I did get a Big League Lawns stripe kit, pricey but I like it. My one piece of advice- when you’re done mowing, flip it up and hit the underside of the deck with the garden hose *right then*. Maybe have a scrub brush handy in case you have some stubborn sticky grass clippings. It will come off easy if you don’t let it cake on there. Just like the breakfast dishes, get right on it and it comes clean much easier. Most of the “Clogmaster” crew are mowing wet grass, cutting way too much and starting with a deck that is pre-caked from multiple cuts with no cleaning- then you scrape with a putty knife or power wash, destroy the deck paint and next time it’s even worse. I also spray with some Teflon anti stick, *every time*. The whole process takes two minutes which is no big deal after an hour plus of mowing. Nice review guys.
You have it all dialed in brother... We are definitely trying stuff things and I'll keep him informed on some of your information here at well.. Thanks
Awesome! We just bought my MIL house on half an acre and at 55y I do not want a riding mower and a few ppl recommened the Toro TM to me. I love a walk behind mower and exercise. 👍
Pretty much love mine. Got it last year.... so pleased.... still worry about how long it will go without any problems... keeping fingers crossed.... had it serviced couple weeks ago.....ps love the automatic start.... worth 100 bucks
I have a lawn care business and have numerous mowers including a Timemaster and a Turfmaster and both these mowers use the exact same blades. The Timemaster is lighter and more powerful. The only draw back on the Timemaster is the small gas tank. No big deal we top it up with gas once an hour.
Thanks for this video. Homeowner with a 8500 yard. It's right in that size that a larger mower is overkill, but I want that wider stripe look without having to double up passes. I am likely going to purchase this, as I think it has the turfmaster beat in more areas than it loses, especially in home applications. Looked at the cub cadet cc800 and I just can get over that bagging system lol. Thank you and this was an entertaining presentation.
I appreciate it very much so... I think it's a great mower for that 8500 area... 12k sq ft that my neighbor had here he has his opinion and I did another video if you want to check it out using the time master to cut 25k sq ft and he makes great points as well
I've got to agree with G S Texas - these mowers are a dirty secret of commercial crews, apparently. I certainly see enough of them on trailers, riding along with some pricey Scag and Gravely Zero Turns. But these same folks will dog the Timemaster in public - like that girl you keep dating, but won't admit it. The main goal of commercial equipment is to make it idiot proof. The second goal of commercial equipment? If you can't make it idiot proof, make it bomb proof. I "downgraded" to a Timemaster from the eXmark - turns out, some of those "fluff" convenience features, like personal pace, are even more convenient if you're pushing one of these for five or six hours. If your business model is "buy the equipment, abuse the equipment, buy more equipment", then "professional-grade" is what you need - although I think it's more professional to maintain and use your tools appropriately. The Timemaster isn't perfect. The gas capacity on that size engine was a total brain-fart. The blade timing belt idle pulley and tension pulley are no good - but you can upgrade them to the eXmark pulleys easily and fairly cheaply. I personally detest Briggs engines historically. But this engine seems to deliver adequate and reliable power, and if you're at all conscientious about keeping good oil in it, seems to have a good life-span. Aside from the fuel-capacity, I haven't missed my eXmark at all. The Timemaster gets me through a property just as quickly, with less wear on me.
Thank you for this. I’ve been looking into starting up a lawn service and I’ve been looking into the timemaster the turfmaster the Exmarks for starter mower. Seems very 50/50 on Timemaster vs commercial ones.
Thanks for the love brother... It's a great machine for as long as it's not a crazy huge lawn... Check my newer video out where I used it on 25k sq ft and what my neighbor thought about it
On a level, flat yard you'll hopefully be fine but beware of terrain dips and rocks. I'm about to replace the timing belt on mine for the second time in as many months because it hit a rock.
Cool, thanks for the review. Especially the time trial info. That's my only reason for wanting to move up from a 21". Plus walking is good exercise for my 66 yrs young body. LOL
Just got one 2 days ago. Can’t wait to use it! Quick question: what kinda grass is that?Bernuda? If so what kid of deep do you use? I’m trying to get crab grass free.
Hey man thanks for reviewing the mower. Really want to use it for a small business I'm starting... PS.. the audio mix is pretty bad. When you guys talk it's so low and the music while demoing the mower is so loud. Just a heads up..
Had a question was hoping for an answer. Very new to this gardening thing. looking to put some new grass in my front yard. Live in Tampa FL and was trying to see what would be the best grass to seed, looking for a good low maintenance grass. No trees so yard gets all the sun.
Depends on what type you go with. You need to see what seed they have and go from there. It also depends on how much you want to spend. Barenbrug Bermuda seed is good. That's what Lawn Tools and Reel Low Dad uses
I know guys who uses them for their business and they say they have no problem with using it multiple times everyday. The mulching is good but your have to be aware that if the grass is super heigh it can bog under the mower and it'll shut off
Striperman, good Monday evening to you mate , of course it’s another glorious blue sky bird chirping Tuesday morning here heading to a slightly warmer 29 max today, how is it your way?
@@trevormuggeridge4560 Good Tuesday morning Trevor. Sounds like your Tuesday is going to be a nice one. We are expecting rain tomorrow which is good. Haven't had to turn on my sprinkler system yet :)
It's social media bro... Are you having that much of a bad day to leave this comment. I'm recording on a GoPro 3 (so of course it sucked lol) and you got a volume down button.. PS.. It was a bit loud tho haha
@@LawnTimeComing Not having a bad day but you don’t need some music blaring while you are trying to drive. Nothing to do with a go pro. Everything to do with editing.
Listen I'll be sure to check that music next time on the loudness.. Be safe brother don't be driving any YouTubing (if that's a word ha)... This is Bermuda grass and you can cut high but it enjoys being cut low. At this time, I reel mowed my grass at 0.5 in .. Now I'm interested in knowing what grass type you have
I always wonder if the folks speaking negativly about the timemaster own the mower. first and foremost its a "Home Owner" mower. So an hour of non stop mowing time is completely sufficient as most home owners will complete the mowing under that time so the tank size is fine. So that means they will fuel the mower once a week before they mow thier property.
Many of the reviews are lawn company owners. Commercial application has different stressors that add to wear and tear, multiple users, loading/unloading, different terrains/weather conditions, different maintance schedule. The main reason we see so many commercial applications is because its the best $1000 30" mower made hands down. But using a "home owner" mower in commercial applications brings with it many problems not experienced with designed use. So yes the mowers has faults and these faults are agitated with commercial application.
I've owned mine since 2018. The B&S 223cc moter has been flawless, abolutely no issue with the electric start(I've only had it on a charger twice), belts and drive train. I bump the starter once or twice then hit it and she starts right up. The cut quality is great and it mulches great(which is my main use). I find the bagging to be excellent. I will say that my Honda HRX has a better cut quaility when mulching, but its specifically designed for that application. The home ownwers here in DFW seem to like the 2.25 or 2.75 cut height better then 2.5/3.0. Toro is on this scale. The mowers personal pace system is fantastic, but the mower may struggle at times going uphill depending on grade.
Through the years I've aquired side jobs and in 2021 I formed a DBA and got insurance. I used my Timemaster & HRX during that formative years. I got several smaller commercial properties and now use a Ferris FW15 for those properties(Its a beast) with the old Timemaster on the trailer standing by for the light work.
Great information to have brother. This is a great mower and I enjoy it very much for sure.. Your answer gets a pin
@@LawnTimeComing Thank you Sir. I enjoyed your vid and I think your "Lawn Time Coming" is really slick play on words!!!!
I appreciate the feedback and love.. Any questions just ask
Was thinking of getting the Ferris with caster wheels for 3k but I only have 5 houses I cut. Is it worth it do you think as I build up? I use a 21 inch cub cadet and have some hills that kill me. the time master looks good but if it struggles up hills maybe it’s a bad choice
How long do you have before you make that decision to buy a mower? I say that because I'll do a video for you showing if it can go up hills well or not
I started a lawn business as a retirement job about 3 years ago. I only do about 30 yards a week as a solo operator. I purchased a Timemaster as my first 30" mower. I understand that it is a residential mower. In the last half of the first season, I started having problems with the idler pulleys failing. Watched a Taryl Fixes All video on replacing them with metal commercial pulleys instead of the plastic ones that come on it. I haven't had a problem with the pulleys since. I believe it is a pulley for an Exmark. I did purchase a Scag SFC 30" as well. I used it about 4 times, sold it, and bought another Timemaster so I had a spare. The Scag actually gave a slightly better cut, but there is about a 90 pound difference in the weight. The Timemaster is about 140 pounds and the Scag SFC is about 230 pounds. That 90 pound difference makes a huge difference after a day of mowing. Now, 3 years into my retirement job, I'm still using the same Timemaster I bought 3 years ago. Yes, daily use does result in some parts wearing out, but you have to expect that in a commercial setting where I'm doing that many yards a week. For a home owner, it might take 3 years for you to wear out the first set of idler pulleys. Also, the gas tank is to small. You can get more volume by removing the anti splash sponge they put in it. If you fill it up with the sponge removed, you will most likely have some gas vibrate out of the cap. Don't fill it above the bottom of the fill neck and that pretty much eliminates the problem. You can also put an extra O-ring at the base of the gas cap and that will take care of the issue. I have replaced the blade engagement cable and the kill switch on both of the mowers as well. I did eventually replace the idler pulleys on my second Timemaster when the original ones wore out on it as well. I love my Timemaster mowers! Also, just a hint, I found my second one on Facebook Marketplace for considerably less than you can buy it at the store. I actually saved about $500 on that purchase. It was new and had never cut grass. He had 3 of them still in the original boxes.
B Davis, I just mowed my 8500 sg foot yard with my TM. No bagging, not terribly over grown. 22 mins my man! Those numbers seem pretty spot on 👍🏻
Now let's see that reel get those times lol
@@LawnTimeComing 35 mins on the back and my goodness I’m loving it 😁
That's what I like to hear
Good video and liked hearing from RamRod. Time Master is my dream mower but can't justify with my two aging Recyclers, they 're just built to well and probably will never quit!
I know he on his lawn that cut down time is key. If you can test one I say go for it
I’ve been using mine to mow 20,000 square feet of cool season salad bar since we got our place in spring 2019. I had a JD 21” and was not interested in mowing all this with that mower even once. Can confirm, I mow the smaller front yard, refuel and mow the back. Our grading is probably worse than Ramrods but at the higher cool-season HOC I don’t get the scalping issues you’ll see in shorter stuff. I did get a Big League Lawns stripe kit, pricey but I like it. My one piece of advice- when you’re done mowing, flip it up and hit the underside of the deck with the garden hose *right then*. Maybe have a scrub brush handy in case you have some stubborn sticky grass clippings. It will come off easy if you don’t let it cake on there. Just like the breakfast dishes, get right on it and it comes clean much easier. Most of the “Clogmaster” crew are mowing wet grass, cutting way too much and starting with a deck that is pre-caked from multiple cuts with no cleaning- then you scrape with a putty knife or power wash, destroy the deck paint and next time it’s even worse. I also spray with some Teflon anti stick, *every time*. The whole process takes two minutes which is no big deal after an hour plus of mowing. Nice review guys.
You have it all dialed in brother... We are definitely trying stuff things and I'll keep him informed on some of your information here at well.. Thanks
Awesome! We just bought my MIL house on half an acre and at 55y I do not want a riding mower and a few ppl recommened the Toro TM to me.
I love a walk behind mower and exercise.
👍
Pretty much love mine. Got it last year.... so pleased.... still worry about how long it will go without any problems... keeping fingers crossed.... had it serviced couple weeks ago.....ps love the automatic start.... worth 100 bucks
Yes sir. It's a great build machine. My old one I had to work on it but that was the first model but that's it no other issues
Do proactive maintance and clean it often. Keeping the underside clean really reduces engine, belt and pulley stress
I have a lawn care business and have numerous mowers including a Timemaster and a Turfmaster and both these mowers use the exact same blades.
The Timemaster is lighter and more powerful.
The only draw back on the Timemaster is the small gas tank.
No big deal we top it up with gas once an hour.
Does you Turfmaster have the Kawasaki or Kohler 224 cc engine?
Thanks for this video. Homeowner with a 8500 yard. It's right in that size that a larger mower is overkill, but I want that wider stripe look without having to double up passes. I am likely going to purchase this, as I think it has the turfmaster beat in more areas than it loses, especially in home applications. Looked at the cub cadet cc800 and I just can get over that bagging system lol. Thank you and this was an entertaining presentation.
I appreciate it very much so... I think it's a great mower for that 8500 area... 12k sq ft that my neighbor had here he has his opinion and I did another video if you want to check it out using the time master to cut 25k sq ft and he makes great points as well
I've got to agree with G S Texas - these mowers are a dirty secret of commercial crews, apparently. I certainly see enough of them on trailers, riding along with some pricey Scag and Gravely Zero Turns. But these same folks will dog the Timemaster in public - like that girl you keep dating, but won't admit it.
The main goal of commercial equipment is to make it idiot proof. The second goal of commercial equipment? If you can't make it idiot proof, make it bomb proof. I "downgraded" to a Timemaster from the eXmark - turns out, some of those "fluff" convenience features, like personal pace, are even more convenient if you're pushing one of these for five or six hours.
If your business model is "buy the equipment, abuse the equipment, buy more equipment", then "professional-grade" is what you need - although I think it's more professional to maintain and use your tools appropriately. The Timemaster isn't perfect. The gas capacity on that size engine was a total brain-fart. The blade timing belt idle pulley and tension pulley are no good - but you can upgrade them to the eXmark pulleys easily and fairly cheaply. I personally detest Briggs engines historically. But this engine seems to deliver adequate and reliable power, and if you're at all conscientious about keeping good oil in it, seems to have a good life-span.
Aside from the fuel-capacity, I haven't missed my eXmark at all. The Timemaster gets me through a property just as quickly, with less wear on me.
Excellent information here. I really appreciate and I hope everyone look and read it as well lol
Thank you for this. I’ve been looking into starting up a lawn service and I’ve been looking into the timemaster the turfmaster the Exmarks for starter mower. Seems very 50/50 on Timemaster vs commercial ones.
Thanks for the love brother... It's a great machine for as long as it's not a crazy huge lawn... Check my newer video out where I used it on 25k sq ft and what my neighbor thought about it
On a level, flat yard you'll hopefully be fine but beware of terrain dips and rocks. I'm about to replace the timing belt on mine for the second time in as many months because it hit a rock.
I need to find more neighbors that like to mow!
Haha I'm just the Supervisor haha
I love the new scag 30 push mower now being demoed
Now that's a beautiful machine for sure
Hell of a lot more money, do you think it is worth it?
Cool, thanks for the review. Especially the time trial info. That's my only reason for wanting to move up from a 21". Plus walking is good exercise for my 66 yrs young body. LOL
Not a pattern. I'm glad you watched. It will save you time and you'll get them steps in for sure
Great review bud. I kinda wish I had enough square footage to justify buying one but I just don't.
Haha you can always.. Just buy it haha
@@LawnTimeComing I could but probably won’t.... yet
Haha
Just got one 2 days ago. Can’t wait to use it! Quick question: what kinda grass is that?Bernuda? If so what kid of deep do you use? I’m trying to get crab grass free.
It's Bermuda...I don't understand when you said what kind of deep??
🌞Awesome video!! RamRod has an amazing lawn! ⛳ I've been eyeing that Timemaster. 👀
Yeah he does... Where would you use the TM at?
@@LawnTimeComing I got almost 30k of Bermuda. I only reel mow about 7.5k of it. I'd use the TM in my ditch and down by the pond.
My other neighbor has 20k sq ft in his back yard and says that the TM might still be a lil small for him
@@LawnTimeComing Yeah, got my zero-turn for when I get lazy, but like to keep a good push mower around.
Haha I hear that. You have to.
Hey man thanks for reviewing the mower. Really want to use it for a small business I'm starting...
PS.. the audio mix is pretty bad. When you guys talk it's so low and the music while demoing the mower is so loud. Just a heads up..
It's a definitely a good piece to have in your tools for the business... Thank for the heads up..I think I need to go back to my lav mic
My son has never seen me start a mower, him trying to pull start it is in his blood
Time to get him a Honda lol
Had a question was hoping for an answer. Very new to this gardening thing. looking to put some new grass in my front yard. Live in Tampa FL and was trying to see what would be the best grass to seed, looking for a good low maintenance grass. No trees so yard gets all the sun.
Def Bermuda grass for sure..it loves sun and is low maintenance...now you just have to see what type of Bermuda grass you want to seed
@@LawnTimeComing now is Bermuda itchy? Kids will be in the yard alot
Depends on what type you go with. You need to see what seed they have and go from there. It also depends on how much you want to spend. Barenbrug Bermuda seed is good. That's what Lawn Tools and Reel Low Dad uses
Good review. Thanks
Good video! Can this mower handle 20 lawns per week? How is mulching?
I know guys who uses them for their business and they say they have no problem with using it multiple times everyday. The mulching is good but your have to be aware that if the grass is super heigh it can bog under the mower and it'll shut off
warning - be careful if you have headphones on when watching this video lol
BOOOOMM I have to make sure you hear it all haha
Should’ve brought the Greens Master over Thur and Reel Low Low Mowed that mess 🤘🏼🔥🦩
Haha he said he's not ready for the low low yet
Too many unlevel spots right now
That thing gives such a nice cut
It sure does
love the mower. music is loud!
Yeah I'll turn that down next time
I like my TimeMaster.
It's a great machine for sure
The gas tank size is inexcusable. The fuel cap is junk too. They put that sponge in there as a cheap fix.
Damn it's crap like that? GG still using his and I guess it's working pretty good.. That's interesting tho for sure
@@LawnTimeComing yeah the sponge is so gas doesn’t spill out the cap and stall the engine out on slopes.
First Aussie 😁
very fast!!!!! still not pinned however
I think they jero the small tank to keep the timemaster from stealing more sakes frome the turf master
B Davis no lie, I literally looked at one yesterday at Ace Hardware, lol 😂
Did you get one???
You really gonna let his lawn flex on yours like that?
Hey now, it's enough flex to go around
@@LawnTimeComing Amen! Great video, agree with him on the Honda engine comment. I need to get me one of those mowers
You better hurry.. They grabbing them up..a Honda engine would be great
This would be a lot better if i could hear ramrod
no! i got 1 in may in October it died 5 months old.
Why damn that was quick... So what happened to?
Toro Clogmaster
Haha haha now that's a different name for it lol
I'm first haha
Striperman, good Monday evening to you mate , of course it’s another glorious blue sky bird chirping Tuesday morning here heading to a slightly warmer 29 max today, how is it your way?
@@trevormuggeridge4560 Good Tuesday morning Trevor. Sounds like your Tuesday is going to be a nice one. We are expecting rain tomorrow which is good. Haven't had to turn on my sprinkler system yet :)
Don’t buy one, the self propulsion system is a joke on tiny hills and even small inclines. You have to push the heavy mower yourself.
What if you don't have hills haha
Too late, already bought one.
The editing sucks. Music is way to loud
It's social media bro... Are you having that much of a bad day to leave this comment. I'm recording on a GoPro 3 (so of course it sucked lol) and you got a volume down button.. PS.. It was a bit loud tho haha
@@LawnTimeComing Not having a bad day but you don’t need some music blaring while you are trying to drive. Nothing to do with a go pro. Everything to do with editing.
@@LawnTimeComing Im curious why you cut short. Is it personal preference or is it your type of grass that requires it?
Listen I'll be sure to check that music next time on the loudness.. Be safe brother don't be driving any YouTubing (if that's a word ha)... This is Bermuda grass and you can cut high but it enjoys being cut low. At this time, I reel mowed my grass at 0.5 in .. Now I'm interested in knowing what grass type you have