Henry VIII regreting his divorce to Anne of Cleves

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  • @natiliee.s.5476
    @natiliee.s.5476 2 месяца назад +60

    They chose the wrong actress for her to be labeled as the "ugly" queen.
    She is beautiful.

    • @sarahwithadragon6729
      @sarahwithadragon6729 2 месяца назад +44

      She actually wasn’t ugly. She just wasn’t attracted to him and that pissed him off so he told everyone she was ugly

    • @chinavaughan6383
      @chinavaughan6383 2 месяца назад +19

      @@sarahwithadragon6729
      Yes, I think that’s what happened. When hearing of her arrival, Henry went to see her unofficially. Henry had once been described as the most handsome prince in all of Christendom. No matter how old and fat Henry got, he continued to see himself that way. However, the man that Anne saw that night bore no resemblance to the young, fit man that Henry once was. Her shock must have made Henry see himself for what he had become and that made her “ugly” in his eyes🙁

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato 2 месяца назад +9

      @@chinavaughan6383 not only that- he was apparently very forwards, despite being dressed in rags (or as close to as he could bear). From her perspective, being betrothed to the king, indulging such behaviour from some strange man could have cost her dearly

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 2 месяца назад +3

      Anne wasn't ugly.

    • @LaKellita1
      @LaKellita1 Месяц назад +4

      Anne of Cleves might have actually been attractive, just to Henry. In fact, Anne Bolyen and Jane Seymour were actually not beautiful women and Henry was attracted to them.

  • @Elizabeth-hc3mi
    @Elizabeth-hc3mi 2 месяца назад +30

    Anne of Cleves smelt financial freedom and she took it.

    • @di3486
      @di3486 19 дней назад +5

      A good pragmatic German!

  • @johnl946
    @johnl946 4 месяца назад +113

    Anne was smart and cautious. After she said she wanted to stay in England Henry VIII threatened her. He Effectively bated her with the french ambassador story. She was smart and said that he had a new queen. And then she went on to praise the queens qualities. Anne got away!

    • @GradKat
      @GradKat 2 месяца назад +15

      She was just the pawn of ambitious men, like many princesses of that era. After Henry dumped her, she didn’t want to return to her own country because she was afraid she would be forced into another marriage by her brother. After Katherine Howard’s execution, Anne hoped Henry would take up with her again, but he wasn’t interested.

    • @di3486
      @di3486 Месяц назад

      She was German! Pragmatic😉 one great German virtue.

    • @LisaG442
      @LisaG442 28 дней назад +6

      @@GradKatHenry bestowed on her the title “Sister”. This put her under his protection so her father couldn’t order her home. This also made Anne second only to the Queen in precedence at court .. very powerful position. He was that grateful for her full cooperation in the annulment that he took care of her finances the rest of her life. She retired to a country estate as the sole mistress and never married. Truly extraordinary for those times for a woman to be her own master.

    • @ginntastic
      @ginntastic 12 дней назад +1

      @@LisaG442 She was smart. She knew that her best option was to put up no argument about annulling the marriage and cooperate. Henry rewarded her for that.

  • @GradKat
    @GradKat 2 месяца назад +81

    I’ll bet Henry wished he was that slim and handsome at the time he married Anne of Cleves.

    • @LovedLamb
      @LovedLamb 2 месяца назад +3

      hahahaha

    • @vikingsong2068
      @vikingsong2068 Месяц назад

      Henry was slim and attractive when he was young. He only got fat after his accident.

  • @mariealexander9545
    @mariealexander9545 9 месяцев назад +177

    l dont think Henry regretted divorcing Anne after Katherine was executed, he could have remarried her but he went on to marry Katherine Parr. Anne and Katherine were the lucky ones Anne went on to have a great life, but Katherine had a tragic end after marrying Tomas Seymour

    • @raumaanking
      @raumaanking 7 месяцев назад +12

      How is Cathrine Parr lucky since she had a tragic life maybe not from Henry the 8 but in general

    • @wednesdayschild3627
      @wednesdayschild3627 7 месяцев назад +37

      I do not think he could go back. That would have been very embarrassing. Anne of Cleves was a good choice. I think he did regret it.

    • @raumaanking
      @raumaanking 6 месяцев назад +1

      @decimusvitae don’t forget Anne of cleves did convert during Mary’s reign because Anne of cleves name was mentioned in the Wyatts rebellion but no proof was found and Mary wrote to her asking her to convert and she agreed oh by the way if Henry the 8 decided to give both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard an annulment and sent them away rather than getting them executed and they were both still alive during Mary’s reign what would have happened to them in your opinion

    • @mariealexander9545
      @mariealexander9545 6 месяцев назад +19

      @decimusvitae Mary loved Anne of Cleves because she was gentle and kind and never argued about religion and she treated Mary with respect Mary was treated so badly by her own father and l felt sorry for her

    • @raumaanking
      @raumaanking 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@mariealexander9545 what if Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard got an annulment and instead of being executed they were sent away and what would happen to them as the years progressed in your opinion and if they were still alive during Mary’s reign

  • @kathieprater2431
    @kathieprater2431 6 месяцев назад +91

    Joss Stone is beautiful. And so sweet as Anne of Cleves.

  • @xxwhispersxx2856
    @xxwhispersxx2856 6 месяцев назад +61

    JRM and Joss Stone had tons of chemistry. I hope they work together on another project.

  • @jinnychen942
    @jinnychen942 2 месяца назад +94

    I think Henry missed the ease with Anne vs the hyperness of Catherine. He could have conversations with her that had substance. He wanted both worlds. 80/20 rule even applies to a king. I think Anne would have had a severely different life if she had not stepped aside so easily. She had a much easier life being his “sister” and confidante than his wife.

    • @ginntastic
      @ginntastic 2 месяца назад +24

      The language barrier I think was a big issue. She didn't speak much English before coming to England. Henry was a charmer and enjoyed witty conversation and flirting. Anne came to a new country knowing nothing about the customs the culture and language, knowing no one and then there was that first meeting where Henry disguised himself which doomed the marriage from the start. Once she learned how to speak English and dance and she had been in the country for a bit she was able to show who she really was. A smart good natured woman who can certainly hold her own in a conversation. And she wasn't ugly. That's just a rumor that was spread because Henry's ego was bruised.

    • @AnnaBellaChannel
      @AnnaBellaChannel 2 месяца назад +13

      She became the richest women in all of England. 100% she lived her best life.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg 2 месяца назад +2

      @@AnnaBellaChannel No such thing as your "best life." We each have A life, ONE life. That's it.

    • @denasigman511
      @denasigman511 15 дней назад +2

      I read a story once written from the perspective of Anne of Cleve's...she told Mary and Elizabeth both she was much happier with her life as a single woman and she enjoyed being able to be a confidant to Henry, a role she wouldn't have been able to be in had she remained married to him. Anne had told many people over the years that she had never been interested in being married or having children. She described it as "not being designed for such things". She preferred being able to do what she wanted when she wanted and not having to answer to anyone, which she would never been able to do had she remained under her brother's care or as Henry's wife. Mary, Elizabeth and Katherine Parr all enjoyed her friendship and often went to her for advice. She had a much better life than she had ever planned

    • @ginntastic
      @ginntastic 12 дней назад +1

      @@denasigman511 Wealthy and left alone to do as she pleased. She was the luckiest of the wives.

  • @edwardcarlisle5580
    @edwardcarlisle5580 4 месяца назад +34

    I don't know if Henry ever actually regretted his divorce to Anne of Cleves. Perhaps he silently did, and perhaps he later recognized it was a mistake, in secret, when he considered all things, but he apparently never said it for the record. He was much too proud for that.

    • @einezcrespo2107
      @einezcrespo2107 3 месяца назад +2

      No he didn't. When Catherine Howard was executed Anne and her brother gave hints to Henry to marry Anne again. He rebuffed them. Anne got the hint and backed off. They still got along well after that.

    • @edwardcarlisle5580
      @edwardcarlisle5580 3 месяца назад +3

      @@einezcrespo2107 That's fair. There's always the possibility though for things unsaid and unwritten. Anyways, can't blame the lovely lady Anne for making a suggestion, but Henry was always going to be the stubborn, selfish, crummy person he was.

  • @evelynbyrd4961
    @evelynbyrd4961 2 месяца назад +16

    It's a shame that The King divorced, Anne. For she was the perfect Queen for him. She was an extraordinary gift from G_D. She would have given Henry 5 sons and he would have been truly happy with her.

    • @kepckatherinec805
      @kepckatherinec805 2 месяца назад +7

      For that to be true, Henry would have needed a much healthier, less bloated ego. His own desires were everything to him, and he didn’t handle delayed gratification well. I don’t think Henry was ever happy for more than brief intervals. After the glow of each new conquest or acquisition quickly wore off, Henry always grasped for more. His greed was a bottomless black hole, one which destroyed most of those who came into Henry’s orbit.

    • @Rosibrosibuns
      @Rosibrosibuns Месяц назад +1

      What makes you think she would've given him 5 sons?

    • @IBeMelissa
      @IBeMelissa 21 день назад +1

      You know what the sad thing is? I think even after any of his wives bore him more than one son, I think he would still have mistresses... Henry only truly loved himself. Anne of Cleves got the best ending out of all this.

  • @BernieMittens
    @BernieMittens 4 месяца назад +27

    He didn’t regret it. He was offered the chance to remarry her after Catherine Howard’s execution and he refused

    • @IBeMelissa
      @IBeMelissa 21 день назад +1

      Really? I did not know that. I think he mostly rejected the offer out of his own pride and ego...But who knows. Maybe deep down, he did recognize the divorce was mistake and he in fact had feelings for her but it was all too late. And honestly Anne was better off for this by escaping Henry and getting financially rewarded for it in the end.

    • @BernieMittens
      @BernieMittens 21 день назад +1

      @@IBeMelissa Yep, after Catherine Howard was beheaded, Anne and her brother, William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg, pressed the king to remarry Anne. Henry quickly refused to do so.
      I agree this might have been to save face, but regardless she was a lucky woman. She ended up wealthy and had a great relationship with the Tudor children. She dodged a bullet, especially since there was a language barrier and she lacked the means to defend herself if serious charges were brought against her had she stayed married to him.

  • @karenmariemorris9780
    @karenmariemorris9780 2 месяца назад +11

    loved jonathan rhys meyers as King Henry VIII. watched the series twice, so moving. he is a terrific actor. also felt he did a terrific job as Elvis.

  • @DarlingNikki2
    @DarlingNikki2 2 месяца назад +7

    I'm still looking for the scene where Henry asks Anne if she minds him staying with her for the night and she looks so sweet in that moment as though terribly confused but then the next scene is of them in what can be considered afterglow. I think Katherine was getting it on with Culpepper around the same time if I'm not mistaken lol.

  • @Juanita-gf4te
    @Juanita-gf4te 3 месяца назад +8

    In real life the king did not regret divorcing her. After she heard about Katherine Howards execution she got her councillors to approach Henry about them remarrying but he refused. She tried several more times over the months but was finally told that the king would never remarry her. She was crushed but had to live with it.

    • @aquitaineq
      @aquitaineq 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, she lived.

    • @gailcurl8663
      @gailcurl8663 2 месяца назад +3

      Why in the world Ann want to Remarry the King?? Ann had it made and was living an Independent Life and was able to do pretty much as She Pleased. Don't Understand This??

    • @Juanita-gf4te
      @Juanita-gf4te 2 месяца назад

      @@gailcurl8663 You really don't know why? Because it is a big disgrace to be divorced from a king....the world always blames the woman for it going wrong. How was Ann to explain this to her brother back in Cleves? She even said she was afraid to go home in case she was executed for failing in her marriage and bringing disgrace and humiliation to her brother and his government. And she never really understood the reason for the divorce in the first place - that the king didn't fancy her plus the political situation had changed and the king no longer needed Cleves as an ally. It was a big step down for Ann from Queen of England to the kings sister........after Katherine Howards shenanigans she may have hoped the king would now see her in a more favourable light which he did since she caused no fus over the divorce, and because she befriended his children and was kind to them. So she was welcome at court as an honoured visitor, just not as queen.

    • @Amateur_Pianist_472
      @Amateur_Pianist_472 2 месяца назад +1

      @@gailcurl8663yeah I don’t get it either

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Amateur_Pianist_472 she probably got told by her brother that she needed to do so.

  • @Nadanein
    @Nadanein 4 месяца назад +14

    Ich Liebe Anne❤

  • @syahlawatimohamadbeji7120
    @syahlawatimohamadbeji7120 2 месяца назад

    I remember being so surprised thst it was Joss Stone and then being so impressed.

  • @Me-fo1kk
    @Me-fo1kk 2 месяца назад +3

    You wonder. Were the women climbing over each other to marry him or was he climbing over women he was related to to wed one he wasnt? He just was one very unlucky king.

  • @Impipo5409
    @Impipo5409 Месяц назад

    In reality, after Catherine Howard's execution, Anne and her brother offered a re-marriage between Anne and Henry. Henry refused, however, unlike in this scene, he didn't seem to regret the annulment in real life. So many wives killed left and right and she still thought of marrying him again. 😅

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 2 месяца назад

    Divorce from, not divorce to.

  • @LisaG442
    @LisaG442 28 дней назад

    They got the French Hoods so wrong in this movie. WTF are those tin ray like things on their heads 🤣 did the costume department even bother to look at some old paintings??

  • @shakenyawells4190
    @shakenyawells4190 3 месяца назад

    Not me sliding mii screen down mid video😂omg subscribe

  • @charleskendall6401
    @charleskendall6401 2 месяца назад

    Can someone tell me what movie this is called? Is it a series or what i want to check it out

    • @EvieKng
      @EvieKng 2 месяца назад +2

      Tudors. It's a series

    • @charleskendall6401
      @charleskendall6401 2 месяца назад

      @@EvieKng where can i find it may i ask?

    • @djgacha1392
      @djgacha1392 2 месяца назад

      ​@@charleskendall6401It's online for free in 123movies
      Or m4ufree

  • @averycheesypotato
    @averycheesypotato 2 месяца назад

    Not exactly historically accurate lol

    • @katiewhatutlkinbout7876
      @katiewhatutlkinbout7876 2 месяца назад +1

      Hell no! When Henry VIII decided to annul his marriage to Anne of Cleves, she was sent the divorce papers with instructions to sign them, give back her wedding ring along with the signed papers or...end up like Anne Boleyn. (This was before he married Katherine Howard, naturally.) And while Anne of Cleves may not come across as bright in the many books written about the Tudors, the woman was far from stupid either. Anne did EXACTLY what Henry wanted to do: sign the divorce papers, return the ring with it and just go with the flow for the time being. She knew damn well pissing the King off wouldn't do her a bit of good. She did want to go back to Germany, as one theory goes but couldn't because once she had married Henry VIII, even despite just getting divorced, Anne was longer considered a citizen of her homeland. Another theory is that she DIDN'T want to go back to Germany. Honestly, it depends on the historuan whose book you're reading. Now, here's some interesting tidbits: Anne didn't speak a word of English so when he sent his envoys to accompany her back to England for the wedding, the envoys tried to teach her some English, in an extremely limited time but that backfired in a hurry. Nor did the King's envoys warn poor Anne about Henry's theatrics aka acting as Robin Hood with his own circle of friends as "His Merry Men" and sweeping (more like barging if you ask me) into his soon to be new queen's lodgings and "rescue her" as if she were Maid Marion. God, I wish they had already invented film in the 16th century...I'd be on my floor dying of laughter but laughing quietly and in a safe place. Yikes! Henry had done this with Catherine of Aragon but she had already been forewarned and prepped...But when Henry heard Anne of Cleves had arrived on England's shores, was being taken, with her ladies, to proper lodgings, the King impulsively decided to try his "Robin Hood" act out on Anne of Cleves who had just arrived hours before, was in a foreign land, knew absolutely no one but her own ladies and knew not ONE word of English. Oh yes and she hadn't been warned about the King's "Robin Hood" fantasies. Had it worked on his first wife? Yah. But this was 1540. He was no longer fit, he was fatter than a tick, he had a hair pin trigger of a temper, he was paranoid and so much more. So, when Henry and his men made it to where Anne and her people were being lodged, he burst into the room where Anne was, grabbed her into a great bear hug and started avowing his love for her. That didn't sit well with Anne. Or her ladies. Shoot, it didn't sit well with me!!! Anne pushed him away and not realizing that was the King, started hurling insults at him until someone managed to get through to her that was THE KING. Her FUTURE HUSBAND. Anne felt bad, tried to apologize but Henry went out with a huff. On their wedding night, the marriage wasn't consumated. It was NEVER consumated. Henry put the blame all on Anne. Saying she stank, she was ugly (False!!!) she was fat and many other things. But the problem was not Anne. It was HIM. He was so overweight, his one leg was always oozing vile pus and hurting him, he just couldn't...get it up. Centuries later, up to 2024, historians believe he had some sort of problem or disease in his "manly" parts that would never have been found and identified back then. And not like anybody would speak out against the King when his doctors claimed him fit and healthy as a horse. Yeah, right. And I've got swamp land in Arizona I wanna sell to you. God help me, I've written a college thesis! I didn't mean to...I'll end this by saying of all of Henry VIII's wives, she outlived every one of, even Katherine Parr. She saw Edward, Henry's only son, become Edward VI only to out live him as well when he died at just 15. And I believe she saw Princess Mary be crowned as Queen Mary I. It wasn't long after that when Anne herself passed away. And when she did finally pass beyond the veil, she died an extremely wealthy woman. Henry had, as an act of gratitude for signing those papers, claimed her as his "most beloved sister." Anne was houses, land, money, whatever she wanted, within reason, of course. And Anne really did treat both Princess Mary and Princess Elizabeth well. And I wonder if that was another reason why he showered Anne with so much money and property: not that she gave him that divorce and returned the wedding ring without a fight or complaint but that she also treated those girls well. We'll never truly know. But I do know that Anne of Cleves laughed on her way to meet the Grim Reaper because she not only died rich, she kept her head and got to see a queen crowned for the first time...ever? I can't remember. Anne of Cleves is buried in a small tomb or coffin by herself, in a lovely church, with her name beautifully engraved on top of the stone covering her. It's a nice sweet spot. Really pretty. I just wish some of the other wives had been given the same level of respect and been buried with dignity.

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato 2 месяца назад

      @@katiewhatutlkinbout7876 you’re not wrong. She arguably fared best out of all his wives for having not stayed by him for long. Though perhaps almost being with him also improved her station- she was almost married off very young (11, if I recall?) but her aunt advocated for her and had it put off. Then the failed wedding to Henry bought her more time still to come into her own, rather than being kept under lock & key by male relatives and an older husband.
      She also did not reject Henry purely because he was old and fat (though who could blame her?), but more likely because she expected to be meeting her new husband soon and could not afford to jeopardize her position by entertaining old men! Henry really was a putz to think that little play act would accomplish anything

  • @gailcurl8663
    @gailcurl8663 Месяц назад +3

    Henry Never Regretted Ending His Marriage to Ann of Cleaves. They Eventually became Friends and Hung Out Together. Ann was Lucky!! She Survived!! Ann is my Favorite Among Henry's Wives. She Seemed Like a Sweet and Kind Lady. Too Bad Henry Couldn't See It.