What's the difference between octaver, pitch shifter and harmonizer pedals?
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In this video, I cover the differences between octaver, pitch shifter and harmonizer pedals.
In a nutshell:
Octaver: combines your guitar signal with an octave up and/or down.
Pitch shifter: alters the original signal of your guitar for another pitch completely (often done with an expression pedal)
Harmonizer: sounds like multiple guitars playing in harmony (the same thing as the octaver, but you have the choice of way more intervals to harmonize yourself than just octaves - 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc).
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I appreciate that it’s like three and a half minutes!) 🙏🏻
This was a huge help. It showed me that I don't need any of these pedals. Lol.
That's what I love my Boss PS-6, it is a good octaver, harmonizer, pitch shifter and detune pedal 3+1 in just one pedal and not too expensive
Hey there, you've made a great and easy to understand video explaining the fundamental differences between 3 guitar effects that often gets confused.
Even by ppl that have heard them or sometimes even used them.
Keep the good things UP!!!
Specially my favorite type of "gear" video. There's actually no difference in the hardware of these three pedals. But, in octavers, there is only a circuit fixed on one octave high or down, and they also have a channel which bypasses the dry signal (it was an example).
I'm a computer hardware engineer and I'm really interested in how these things work. Thanks Antoine! You made me try to figure out how a "pitch shifting" circuit is working :))
This is a good video with one small but important nitpick: a defining function of harmonizers is the ability to create diatonic harmonies based off of scales and keys. Pitch shifters (which is what the Pitch Fork actually is) can only harmonize at a fixed interval. Meaning, for example, if you set up a pitch shifter to harmonize up a major 3rd and play a C major scale, it will generate an E major scale. This can have its applications but will sound completely dissonant if you're a guitarist or vocalist trying to use a pedal to harmonize within one scale, which the Pitchfork cannot do. If I'm a beginner guitarist looking for a pedal to recreate the solo on "Hotel California" or the middle section of "Master of Puppets", then this video just sold me the wrong pedal.
You made a great point, thanks!!!
If you need to do the Solo of Hotel California or Master Of Puppets, you might find success with using 2 PS6es.
One set to Major, and one set to Minor.
And you will need to quickly switch one on and switch the other off with one foot press.
very useful, thanks. but why freeze when you play the example music haha
Yeah, the cheesy fake-freeze made me think of Police Squad.
Really creepy when you just held your finger up and maintained the body position unnaturally rather than just doing a freeze frame in your editing software...
Thanks for the vid tho, I got the jist of the difference now.
I know, this was stupid... :-)
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar It made me laugh when I realized it wasn't a freeze frame. Loved it.
Short and to the point, thank you very much.
Siempre disfruto pasar por aquí cada vez que necesito un buen consejo.
Gracias Antoine, un grande.
Great video. Your explanations are flawless and concise, which is a rarity among other guitar-oriented channels.
I was under the impression the pitchfork was a pitch shifter. Technically Not a harmonizer???
Good job, bro!!!
The fact that you didn’t freeze frame made this that much better
Makes sense, thank you!
very good explanations thank you very much
Good video, I have them all 3 but I still don't know to use them, I mean to make it sound good as I want
Thanks Antoine!
Super useful! And here i thought i'd have to tune my strings to near breaking point to reach higher pitches!
Great video! Thank you so much, bro!
Very clearly explained thanks 🙂
Great video, very clear and to the point.
Merci ! Very clear explanations and demo.
Straight to the point with sounds. You really answered my question (my youtube search), and you know what? Now you have a new subscriber 😀
Oh i like your accent. You sound like George St-Pierre (ufc fighter)
We're both from Montreal, so that's not surprising ;-)
Thanks very useful!!!
Nowww i get it, thanks for simple explanation!
Nice video. Helps a lot
thank you. Very helpful
Thank you!
Thanks mate!
Very Good! 👍
Does Brian May use a harmoniser or octaves, for example on killer queen? It sounds like a few guitars playing the same melody but in different octaves. Can octavers add both a higher octave and lower octave at the same time? So if I hit any string on the 12th fret it would add a duplicate signal up on the 24th and another down on the open note? I tried to do this sort of thing in a daw but layering each one on top of another and i couldn’t get it right, I wasn’t perfectly in sync with the original melody and it sounded terrible. I also think my intonation is not set up correctly because as i go up the fretboard past 12 to 15 sort of region it can sound slightly out of tune so trying to layer 3 guitars over different octaves sounds sloppy as heck. Surely there’s a pedal effect or preset for this. I’m still new to the whole effect pedal side of things so cant explain what I’m thinking of
the harmonizer sounds so righteous here 2:22
Great video!
1:41 I have that exact Degitech pedal and it powers on but no sound. I dont know what is wrong with it But i am selling it on Ebay for parts.
Thank you for the explanation. Can you explain what are the key I need to choose on my harmonizer? A,B,C,D,E.. what does it do to the sound? I try to set it to kiko loureiros tone on ‘overflow’
You have to find out the key of the song you're playing and set the harmonizer pedal to match that key!
Antoine Michaud I understand. I see that the song I want to make harmonizer effect to has Dm and FMAJ. I don’t understand keys to choose. Can you help, what do you think is the right key on the harmonizer for this song from your knowledge? I know the settings need to be set for this song for 1 octave lower ( -12 ), but I don’t know what key to choose.
Can you turn off the dry signal on most octavers or harmonizers to get only the new pitch?
Yup
I need a harmonizer with an expression pedal...
Which is best?
Merci
Ça va, Antoine?
And if you wanna replicate the sound of bass on guitar (for record on loop pedal), whats the effect/pedal to be utilized?
Thanks, my friend!
Thanks for the video. Do you think that a Pitch Shifter can be used to change the bass tuning to follow singer’s need?! I would need to get just the amended sound without the original one.
That would technically be possible, however I would worry about getting a poorer tone and especially about tracking. The few milliseconds of delay to process your pitch shift could add some latency and it's extremely difficult to play this way. You would have to make some research for ''pitch shifter with the best tracking''
What was the settings on the pitchfork ?
Does anybody knows where is the best "place" for a pitch shifter in the effect chain?.... in front of the amp or in the FX loop?
Cheers.
I like placing it very early in the chain, because I find it tracks better when it is not masked by any other effects such as distortions or time-based effects. I generally place it here:
Tuner > Compressor > Pitch shifting/octaver > Distortion > the rest (time-based effects).
Of course, other people could say the opposite, but everyone has their own way :-)
@@AntoineMichaudGuitar... thanks for your help.
Rock on.
what pedal would you suggest for pitch shifting?
and also would there be a pitch shifter pedal with a shifting feature for tone, one for speed only and another one speed/tone together?
can the pitch shifter lower the pitch? instead of higher?
I guess it depends on the pedal you're using, but technically, yes!
If GSP was a guitarist lol
This is killing me lol. I am not impressed by this pedals PaiRForMance
Not proper information. True OCTAVER does not pitching the signal to octave down - this will be brought by the Pitch Shifter and Harmonizers. The OCTAVERS synthesizes a new signal from a square, which is obtained from a guitar signal based on the source frequency dividers. In the sound of the OCTAVERS, the source timbre is not heard at all, it sounds simply Sub Bass square synthesizer tone into the tone of the source signal (-1 -2 oktave ). Typically, such devices are built on frequency divisors + Square Synth, not Pitch Shifter. Micro Pog is not an octavers in a classic understanding, it is a common Pitch Shifting processing
Little babies complaining about the freezeframe lmao
so an accordion is basically an acoustic harmonizer. ☺
NOTI SQUAD
I never realised Harry Potter was into guitar pedals!
Expecto Octavium!
@Craig Gordon - What are you talking about? He is obviously Oliver Wood, not Harry.
@@BobaFettBountyHunterIt was a joke dude
Ratm in 1:33
I hate the Octaver sound, it will never not sound like silly oriental music.
Bullsh*t. It sounds great in ambient music, when using swells.