@@kennethmalone8104 Sorry. but NM-ro5nf is spot on. Fierceness was 4 wide on the 1st turn and 3 wide on the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. He also conceded 5 pounds to her. He gave up a minimum 5-6 lengths to TA on the turns and still beat her. Best horse won. His name is Fierceness!
Thorpedo Anna Gave It Her All!! But Fierceness Was A Stronger Horse Today!! She Was A Really Game On Contender!! So Proud Of Her Efforts!! Congratulations To Travers Champ, Fierceness!!
Three grade 1 wins and one grade 2. The best horse in this class is Fierceness. That is reality. Anyone playing SL played an overrated pace dependent bridesmaid. LOL
@@ivanboesky1520 She don't swing 4 wide she runs fierceness shoe's off. She had the one hole and the jockey should've latched on to Batten Down tail. Rachel Alexandra 1 hole win this by five
Fierceness is probably the best 3 yr old, especially right now, his last 2 races have shown the ability that made him the DERBY fave. I guess it's on to the BC Classic now. Anna is the real deal filly or not, she has shown she can run w/ the boys, but I'm sure Ken McPeek will do what's best for Anna and she'll smackdown whomever they throw against her in the BC F/M . P.S. Loved the Call by Frank Mirahmadi.
Best 3 YO in the country, Fierceness. His A game is better than anyone else. TA ran a great race. She, Fierceness and Dornoch will be fun to watch in the BC Classic against City of Troy, Mystic Dan, Seize the Grey, Sierra Leone, Muth and a few others.
TA is an excellent filly, and she will likely be back against the boys in the BC Classic. But anyone claiming she was the best horse in the race today and would have won with a better trip is talking nonsense! She got beat by the better horse plain and simple. Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her today, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn, while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip. Great race, and yes, the best animal in the race won! His name is Fierceness! 😀
@@ivanboesky1520 true, could have done anything earlier in the race from the 1 post. they act as if the perfect tip as they say was given to them, jockey helps get that trip. got a nice 9.80 for the win, great race though
If hernandez gets off the rail she wins thats a gaurantee i loved her this race had 1500 on her she ran huge an honestly jock got her beat not the horse 48 seconds an he leaves her bogged on rail
The beauty of horse racing is that, like baseball, there’s just enough time to see triumph or heartbreak barreling down on you. When she and Fierceness locked up you could simultaneously tell that she had run the race of her life, and that she was going to come up an agonizing nose short. Fierceness was brilliant, but she was too.
@@michaelpeterson1482 yep he made his move first, it's critical in races like this, you gotta be the first to jump, just bad luck but a great effort from both
KING4aday46 "I hate to say it, but this race was made to make Fierness look good. Yes, the jockeys control all the races. Zenyatta was also held back on her last race. Imagine all the money people lost. Do you want to see a real race horse , a horse? All jockeys will try to stop from winning except the rider. Watch this year's breeders cup. The main event. Another horse that was stopped from winning was Afleet Alex." @@KING4aday46 that is some grade A BS
@@KING4aday46 you win way more money by actually placing in the race than placing bets, jockeys are heavily penalized for not trying and with multiple cameras in the modern era it is very easy to tell if a jockey is holding a horse back or not trying. You dumb
KING4aday46 "You have no idea. Keep thinking there are great horses out there. If they don't cheat again, Forever Young will be the horse. Don't tell me you didn't see what they did on the Kentucky Derby." @@KING4aday46 ... you are aware that jockeys are heavily penalized for not trying, with multiple camera angles in the modern era, riders and horses are heavily scrutinized and holding a horse back is always caught in the act and punished. You win FAR more money winning a race than betting on it. I have no idea why you think these things, is it because the favorite doesn't always win? Because that would be very weak evidence, the favorite doesn't always win. I don't think you know much of anything about this sport.
Uh oh!!! Did fierceness actually figure the game out??!! if he did, God help everyone else. But what a fantastic race thorpedo Anna is every bit as good as they think she is.!!!
TA had an amazing ground saving trip along the rail - she swung out into the stretch. Perfect ride by Hernandez - just not enough. Fierceness was wide through-out and carried 5 more pounds than TA and still prevailed.
Also being hung 3-4 wide on both turns while TA hugged the rail. TA fans want to pretend that did not occur and Fierceness did not also give her 5 pounds. Best horse win, plain and simple!
Fantastic race.Thr filly, Bravo.Tip my hat.Congrates Fierceness, Johnny V great ride.Got the jump on the competition turning for home. Sierra Leone might need to turnbuckle to one mile.Can't get the pace to run at.Once they put 48 and change up I knew I was toast Thought there would have been a faster pace, never developed. That takes away the late turn of foot.But congrats winner and the filly
These two could be City of Troy's competition in the Breeder's Cup Classic. So City of Troy needs to learn to run on dirt and take the whip if he's to give Aidan his first win in this race.
@@ivanboesky1520 Hey -- I'm American so I know City of Troy's background. Coolmore came to the US to get the best sire. But he's never been tested on dirt. Think Giant's Causeway losing to Tiznow in 2000, and Galileo coming in 6th in 2001. They both had American sires, so nothing is for certain. Aidan has already said he's going to test City of Troy on dirt. He wants a win, not a 3rd loss!
@@ivanboesky1520 Aidan has confirmed that City of Troy is running in the Classic. Aidan has been waiting for this. City of Troy is currently #1 in the Timeform ratings. He'll have plenty of competition in the Classic, with the biggest challenge probably coming from older horses.
Sierra Leone also ran his nuts off yet again, especially with the way that track was playing. His running style just gets him into too much trouble against the best company. Too much to do late when the pace isn’t overwhelming. Took a TON of public money yet again as I expected and was the clear favorite AGAIN. He really is the most talented of all the runners, but his style brings him in just short of victory. He’s a real enigma.
He has run out of excuses...he will run down g3 types...no matter what the pace but against g 1 comp?no early speed kills you and he has no early speed at all...always a bet AGAINST
Saw where Torpedo Anna was "cutting it close" in the Cotillion. Why wasn't Fierceness "cutting it close" in the Travers? Torpedo Anna was gaining & lost by a head & she still beat 6 of the boys.
Torpedo Ana ran the best race in the Travers. She made up a ton of ground to catch Fierceness at the wire. Fierceness may not be a true distance horse and was all out to hold on to the lead at the end.
Hopefully all goes to plan with City of Troy going for the BC classic. He's only raced on turf to date but is by Justify. The way he won at York this week was very very impressive. If he gets to the BC in the same form.........well!
Fierceness gave up at least 5-6 lengths of ground loss around both turns racing outside of horses while she hugged the rail around both turns. That’s reality! He also gave a 5 pound weight advantage that over 1 1:4 miles probably translates into another 1-2 length advantage. Those are the only reasons she was that close to him at the end. And likewise, using your logic, if the race had been just a bit shorter he’d have beaten her by 1-2 lengths. So what? All that matters is where you are at the finish. Everything else is woulda, coulda , shoulda. TA is a very nice filly, but the best horse in this race won. His name is Fierceness. End of story. 😀
I told my friends this morning I had no idea why everyone was claiming the pace would be swift. There was no horse in this race that really needed the lead, but Batten Down and he is not a super fast horse. Handicappers saw something there that did not exist. Told my friends that Fiercrness had been training great and the 8 post was a perfect post to track BD, Dornoch and TA from. Fierceness was just galloping down the backstretch until it was time to run. 4-1 was a joke gift on him. 😀
I wouldn’t even give Thorpedo Anna the “L” after that type of performance, she ran a winning race and had a questionable trip, she already had the rail ahead of Fierceness on the first turn, why so patient and the need to circle them, it’s her that they need to hook, not the other way around. If she looks Fierceness in the eye earlier, she breaks him.
I think she ought to get another crack at Fierceness in the Classic. I have been thinking all this year that she is the only horse who might catch City of Troy in the Classic. She had to go wide before she could take after Fierceness, or she could have beat him.
So you never want to see a filly race the colts again? There is no way any trainer would send their filly out against colts at the Classic distance at equal weight. EVER
Funny Zenyatta raced with 127 several times against the girls and the Derby weight is 126! Breeders Cup she only received 3lbs off! 😂yet she was the biggest horse caring her weight! Your a clown😮😂😂
@@depalma13 i wish they would just stop with the fillies against colts. They tend to over extend themselves and get hurt. I hate it. Ruffian, Eight Belles, just stop it. Proves nothing.
I think they need to let Thorpedo Anna have a test and come back in the Pacific Classic and if she does good, go to the Breeders Cup. She will improve as long as they rest her.
FAST ANNA WOULD HAVE WON IF SHE WASN'T BLOCKED BY THE JOCKEYS GAME PLAY,THEY INTENTIONALLY BLOCKED HER, EVERYONE KNOWS SHE WAS BLOCKED. THORPEDO ANNA HAD THE WIN
No stop it...your caps ain't helping either..she was never blocked at any point...stop LYING...we all have eyes,smh...she ran well but came up short...period
Torpedo Anna ran a good race n gave it her all she was awesome but fiercness said move on the side I'm the king here the crown is mine go fiercness you rule your the best
She would have won if Velazquez maintains his line. Anna was closing hard on the final furlong. If you look at overhead shots and front shots, Velazquez clearly directs Fierceness into Anna’s path pushing her stride and momentum to the right. She lost by a neck. Without that interference, she wins that race. Some might call it aggressive racing, but these horses are not disposable and racing like that should be frowned upon on a straight line to the finish.
She could have won that! the position was not the best for her, she was always on the rail in his races, after seeing the race maybe the jockey didn't do what he could or expected to do... awesome race by fierceness anyway
Sierra Leone needs a new jockey. Something is not working here. This horse is always running at the end, he should be winning at least one of these races.
Moore will be on City of Troy but Sierra Leone will surely be trained to break better for the Classic. Both Coolmore horses have big chances this year especially if the torpedo goes to the distaff instead.
Sierra Leone needs a young Luis Saez or maybe Calvin Borel. Tyler and Flavian are too nice. This colt has ability. Its going to be a ruthless rider to get him to the winners circle. Now that I'm typing this I think Irad would suit him perfectly.
Ryan Moore? On dirt? Cmon man. Let him stick to grass and also he wins cause he gets the best horses. Irad Ortiz doesn’t need the best horses to win. Flavian is also a better choice than Ryan. 😊
I mean…..look at the state of the Jolly!?!….how is a horse supposed to run and breathe properly caked in Dirt…..American Racing….you just can’t take it seriously…..
Fierceness won by the skin of his teeth Torpedo Anna had every right to win the race as she had plenty petrol in the tank they will meet again and the result will reverse jockey Hernandez lost ground leaving the rails going to the outside to make his bid so sad for the filly as I said the filly will make the colts look silly it was just a hair breath away I know SL needs twelve furlongs to be effective he will win but the likes of the three horses that conquer him are absent end of story
BS! Fierceness was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. He absolutely lost a good deal more ground during the race than TA did unless you were watching the race with beer goggles on. She was not beating him regardless of trip. 😀
It was a great race and I have a ton of respect for TA! Great filly and she will be a serious threat in the BC Classic if she goes. But the best horse won this race, and I can’t stand it when fans claim their losing horse would have won with a better trip, while simultaneously ignoring the trip advantages she had over other horses like hugging the rail while they are 3-4 wide around both turns and losing multiple lengths to ground loss. 😀
Jockey blew the race by taking her to the outside and tried to make up for all the ground lost vs the MALES. Give her to Irad Ortiz and youll see GREATNESS.By ANNA.
Sierra Leone trainer is either blind or incompetent!Last 4 runs the horse is coming well far from behind,doesn't handle the bend ,runs into trouble, doesnt get a run!!For gods sake let the horse contest the pace ,he is crying out for the lead,he is full of running after the wire! Bring Ryan Moore from Ireland aswell to ride the horse ,looks like US jockey cannot handle him ,5 different jockeys same results!!
She got a beautiful ride. The difference in why Fierceness won instead of her is that Fierceness has an incredible turn of foot. He can put a lot of distance on the field very quickly. It’s the only reason he won. Anna takes a little longer to get going. She was amazing in defeat.
@@silvereyedstacker1842 I don't think you have watched any of her previous races, she is usually quite handy and kicks off the bend. In this She broke beautifully and he pull her back on the rail to 4th and let a key rival (fierceness) sit on her outside boxing her in and giving away first run. Then Has to get sent 4 wide on the bend giving away more ground before she can straighten and start to close... It was poor.
@@vincnet1982I’ve watched all of her races. She was racing against the boys at a longer distance. Her previous races had much inferior fields. She does not have Fierceness’s turn of foot and gave it everything she has. She definitely has a good turn of foot, even a great one, but it’s not going to look as good against a horse like Fierceness. He won because he was able to spurt away from the field early once they straightened out. You can clearly see when he does it. She still almost ran him down and she likely has better stamina. She might would have gotten him had the race been a little longer. She had a beautiful ground saving trip on the rail. The jockey did everything right. She just ran into another champion. Fierceness had the widest trip of all of them throughout the race. She also broke from the one hole. There was not very much that could be done about that.
The speed horse was slowing down in front of her, and her jockey was not sure he would be able to get through on the rail. He had to make a quick decision about whether to wait for a hole to open up, or go wide. Not really his fault that the speed collapsed in front of her. And most horses that are on the lead going a mile and a quarter are not going to be the one that is in first at the end. Not really a poor ride, he just didn't get the break he needed to take her up the rail.
@@blueshark3098Agreed. It was a very good ride from the one hole under the circumstances. Like you said, there is not but so much that could have been done.
Hey people from Europe , these are real fucking horses. These 2 horses will romp any horse in the word!!!! Easily!!! Luckily bib baffert didn’t have a chance to race his horses and you would of seen a better competition
Are the horses in Europe not real??? I know they say Frankel was a machine but I thought this was just a play on words. I guess we will find out on the 2nd of November where Europe will once again send over a decent string of horses at the end of a long season to take on the best the US have to offer. I imagine 5 wins will be the aim again for European horses just like last year. They might even take home the Classic as well just for the fun of it.
If fierceness was consistent, I would love this victory but thorpedo Anna had a chance to make history and to see it ruined by a kentucky derby favorite that did nothing in that race hurts me.
She got beat by the better horse plain and simple. And the horses Fierceness has beaten in his 3 grade 1 wins and his grade 2 win are worlds better than any filly TA has ever beaten. That is reality! Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip.
@ivanboesky1520 Anna has destroyed the fillies not just beat them. She's the better horse. Hopefully Mcpeek gives her another chance against the guys at the BC. Also the rail isn't always the trip you want. If you watched other races today you seen other horses running down the middle.
TA is an excellent filly, and she will likely be back against the boys in the BC Classic. But anyone claiming she was the best horse in the race today and would have won with a better trip is talking nonsense! She got beat by the better horse plain and simple. And the horses Fierceness has beaten in his 3 grade 1 wins and his grade 2 win are worlds better than any filly TA has ever beaten. That is reality! Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her today, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn, while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip. Great race, and yes, the best animal in the race won! His mane is Fierceness! 😀
My god,what a brilliant filly..galant in defeat.kudos to fierceness
Fierceness would not have caught her today. Look at the start, she was ready to run
Wrong ,, he just getting back in form@@kennethmalone8104
@@kennethmalone8104😂😂clowns on here 😂! He ran 3 and 4 wide kid! She hugged the rail 😮and he gave her 5 pounds! The best horse won today 🤚😁
@@NM-ro5nf Yeh agreed.
@@kennethmalone8104 Sorry. but NM-ro5nf is spot on. Fierceness was 4 wide on the 1st turn and 3 wide on the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. He also conceded 5 pounds to her. He gave up a minimum 5-6 lengths to TA on the turns and still beat her. Best horse won. His name is Fierceness!
Thorpedo anna ran her heart out just like the announcer said
Congratulations to Fierceness, Thorpedo Anna, and all their connections! Just a brilliant race. 👏
Thorpedo Anna Gave It Her All!! But Fierceness Was A Stronger Horse Today!! She Was A Really Game On Contender!! So Proud Of Her Efforts!! Congratulations To Travers Champ, Fierceness!!
She raced amazingly
Thorpedo Anna you ran awesome
Outside of the Derby Fierceness has been AMAZING! I'd love to see him vs Dornoch, SL and TA rematch at the BCC
At The Races, great video keep it up bro
Victory is sweet! The best horse proved his status as #1! 💙🧡
Til he finishes 20 lengths back next race
Three grade 1 wins and one grade 2. The best horse in this class is Fierceness. That is reality. Anyone playing SL played an overrated pace dependent bridesmaid. LOL
@@ivanboesky1520
She don't swing 4 wide she runs fierceness shoe's off. She had the one hole and the jockey should've latched on to Batten Down tail. Rachel Alexandra 1 hole win this by five
Fierceness is probably the best 3 yr old, especially right now, his last 2 races have shown the ability that made him the DERBY fave. I guess it's on to the BC Classic now. Anna is the real deal filly or not, she has shown she can run w/ the boys, but I'm sure Ken McPeek will do what's best for Anna and she'll smackdown whomever they throw against her in the BC F/M .
P.S. Loved the Call by Frank Mirahmadi.
Best 3 YO in the country, Fierceness. His A game is better than anyone else. TA ran a great race. She, Fierceness and Dornoch will be fun to watch in the BC Classic against City of Troy, Mystic Dan, Seize the Grey, Sierra Leone, Muth and a few others.
Less than half those horses will be in the bc haha muth over national treasure and Arabian knight 4 yo and up are allowed
Forever young if running will be the one to watch.
Arabian Knight is retired @MatthewWoodruff-cm7hl
Troy makes all and wins in hand
Thorpedo Anna was bottled up and then ran the longest way around and closed at the end. If she had an outside post she may have won.
Oh absolutely. She's definitely clearly the best horse in this field. Sometimes its just placement
TA is an excellent filly, and she will likely be back against the boys in the BC Classic.
But anyone claiming she was the best horse in the race today and would have won with a better trip is talking nonsense!
She got beat by the better horse plain and simple.
Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her today, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn, while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip.
Great race, and yes, the best animal in the race won! His name is Fierceness! 😀
Absolutely agree, it was a jockey mistake
@@ivanboesky1520 true, could have done anything earlier in the race from the 1 post. they act as if the perfect tip as they say was given to them, jockey helps get that trip. got a nice 9.80 for the win, great race though
If if if 😂😂😂😂
The filly. She can be a distance specialist! She is sooooo good.
Long reign king fierceness congratulations your the best ever
If hernandez gets off the rail she wins thats a gaurantee i loved her this race had 1500 on her she ran huge an honestly jock got her beat not the horse 48 seconds an he leaves her bogged on rail
Beautiful fiercness reigns most exciting race I've seen so far congratulations fiercness your awesome 😊
The beauty of horse racing is that, like baseball, there’s just enough time to see triumph or heartbreak barreling down on you. When she and Fierceness locked up you could simultaneously tell that she had run the race of her life, and that she was going to come up an agonizing nose short. Fierceness was brilliant, but she was too.
Aaahghh, if it’d been a split second longer!!!! What a race!!!
Fierceness ran a great race, TA was really coming, but, I don't think Fierceness would have let her by.
Should have asked her a little sooner I think, great race!
I thought so too. Fierceness got the jump on her on the far turn. Johnny V. made the timelyest move.
@@michaelpeterson1482 yep he made his move first, it's critical in races like this, you gotta be the first to jump, just bad luck but a great effort from both
KING4aday46 "I hate to say it, but this race was made to make Fierness look good. Yes, the jockeys control all the races. Zenyatta was also held back on her last race. Imagine all the money people lost. Do you want to see a real race horse , a horse? All jockeys will try to stop from winning except the rider. Watch this year's breeders cup. The main event. Another horse that was stopped from winning was Afleet Alex."
@@KING4aday46 that is some grade A BS
@@KING4aday46 you win way more money by actually placing in the race than placing bets, jockeys are heavily penalized for not trying and with multiple cameras in the modern era it is very easy to tell if a jockey is holding a horse back or not trying. You dumb
KING4aday46 "You have no idea. Keep thinking there are great horses out there. If they don't cheat again, Forever Young will be the horse. Don't tell me you didn't see what they did on the Kentucky Derby."
@@KING4aday46 ... you are aware that jockeys are heavily penalized for not trying, with multiple camera angles in the modern era, riders and horses are heavily scrutinized and holding a horse back is always caught in the act and punished. You win FAR more money winning a race than betting on it. I have no idea why you think these things, is it because the favorite doesn't always win? Because that would be very weak evidence, the favorite doesn't always win. I don't think you know much of anything about this sport.
Uh oh!!! Did fierceness actually figure the game out??!! if he did, God help everyone else. But what a fantastic race thorpedo Anna is every bit as good as they think she is.!!!
Please please put her in the Breeders Cup
What a run by Fierceness and Thorpedo Anna!! Sierra Leone just doesn’t have what it takes to win I’ve concluded. Derby, Belmont and then travers 😏
She will beat the boys 🐎❤️👍 1:12
Not today
She fled to filly only races Owner said she will go to BC distaff😂
You could hear the intensity of the race through the announcer. WHAT A RACE!
Johnny V getting it done
The filly have a great try, A different trip and she may have gotten there first
TA had an amazing ground saving trip along the rail - she swung out into the stretch. Perfect ride by Hernandez - just not enough. Fierceness was wide through-out and carried 5 more pounds than TA and still prevailed.
Guts and glory run by Fierceness......he was almost caught by the weights!
Also being hung 3-4 wide on both turns while TA hugged the rail. TA fans want to pretend that did not occur and Fierceness did not also give her 5 pounds. Best horse win, plain and simple!
😂
Fantastic race.Thr filly, Bravo.Tip my hat.Congrates Fierceness, Johnny V great ride.Got the jump on the competition turning for home. Sierra Leone might need to turnbuckle to one mile.Can't get the pace to run at.Once they put 48 and change up I knew I was toast Thought there would have been a faster pace, never developed. That takes away the late turn of foot.But congrats winner and the filly
Fierceness is back
If you would have let her go 2 seconds sooner she would have taken him. Brilliant race. Beautiful horses.
Whaht a Fillie.
She had to pull and go around two or three of them to the outside so she ran further to get up there where she can contest she is great
These two could be City of Troy's competition in the Breeder's Cup Classic. So City of Troy needs to learn to run on dirt and take the whip if he's to give Aidan his first win in this race.
City of Troy is by Justify and O’Brien already knows he can run on dirt. He’ll be a major threat if he goes in the BC Classic.
@@ivanboesky1520 Hey -- I'm American so I know City of Troy's background. Coolmore came to the US to get the best sire. But he's never been tested on dirt. Think Giant's Causeway losing to Tiznow in 2000, and Galileo coming in 6th in 2001. They both had American sires, so nothing is for certain. Aidan has already said he's going to test City of Troy on dirt. He wants a win, not a 3rd loss!
Yep. I hope he runs in the Classic, because I have watched some of his turf races over there and the kick is explosive as you probably know. 😀
@@ivanboesky1520 Aidan has confirmed that City of Troy is running in the Classic. Aidan has been waiting for this. City of Troy is currently #1 in the Timeform ratings. He'll have plenty of competition in the Classic, with the biggest challenge probably coming from older horses.
In the words of Connor Mcgregor: "Who the fuck is that guy? "
What a race!
Great race third ran well too .
Sierra Leone also ran his nuts off yet again, especially with the way that track was playing. His running style just gets him into too much trouble against the best company. Too much to do late when the pace isn’t overwhelming. Took a TON of public money yet again as I expected and was the clear favorite AGAIN. He really is the most talented of all the runners, but his style brings him in just short of victory. He’s a real enigma.
Can’t say he’s the most talented of the runners when he never wins these races. Fierceness has proved his worth for sure.
He has run out of excuses...he will run down g3 types...no matter what the pace but against g 1 comp?no early speed kills you and he has no early speed at all...always a bet AGAINST
@@BryantBrothers-gm1qx I agree at this point. But watch. When he’s 5/1 in his next G1, he’ll win for fun.
Right king fiercness
Saw where Torpedo Anna was "cutting it close" in the Cotillion. Why wasn't Fierceness "cutting it close" in the Travers? Torpedo Anna was gaining & lost by a head & she still beat 6 of the boys.
Torpedo Ana ran the best race in the Travers. She made up a ton of ground to catch Fierceness at the wire. Fierceness may not be a true distance horse and was all out to hold on to the lead at the end.
Hopefully all goes to plan with City of Troy going for the BC classic.
He's only raced on turf to date but is by Justify.
The way he won at York this week was very very impressive.
If he gets to the BC in the same form.........well!
I was there when they turned for home and came down the stretch the place went wild and i mean wild,,,,,
Fierceness I’ll win again at breders cup classic
City of troy will win
She would have won just a little longer distance !
Yeah, and he would have won by more if he was not giving her 5 pounds and racing wide around both turns while she hugged the rail!
@@ivanboesky1520 5 pounds to a filly...she was gonna win a few more strides
Fierceness gave up at least 5-6 lengths of ground loss around both turns racing outside of horses while she hugged the rail around both turns. That’s reality! He also gave a 5 pound weight advantage that over 1 1:4 miles probably translates into another 1-2 length advantage. Those are the only reasons she was that close to him at the end.
And likewise, using your logic, if the race had been just a bit shorter he’d have beaten her by 1-2 lengths. So what? All that matters is where you are at the finish. Everything else is woulda, coulda , shoulda.
TA is a very nice filly, but the best horse in this race won. His name is Fierceness. End of story. 😀
Best comment 😁 @@ivanboesky1520
@@ivanboesky1520agreed - no other way to see it.
Fierceness Had a "Plethora" of Naysayers Running For Cover After This Race
So much for a fast pace
I told my friends this morning I had no idea why everyone was claiming the pace would be swift. There was no horse in this race that really needed the lead, but Batten Down and he is not a super fast horse. Handicappers saw something there that did not exist.
Told my friends that Fiercrness had been training great and the 8 post was a perfect post to track BD, Dornoch and TA from. Fierceness was just galloping down the backstretch until it was time to run. 4-1 was a joke gift on him. 😀
I wouldn’t even give Thorpedo Anna the “L” after that type of performance, she ran a winning race and had a questionable trip, she already had the rail ahead of Fierceness on the first turn, why so patient and the need to circle them, it’s her that they need to hook, not the other way around. If she looks Fierceness in the eye earlier, she breaks him.
I think she ought to get another crack at Fierceness in the Classic. I have been thinking all this year that she is the only horse who might catch City of Troy in the Classic. She had to go wide before she could take after Fierceness, or she could have beat him.
126-121 at 10 furlongs.
I think it's time to end that. Any filly this good can do without it.
Yeah, that weight concession at 1 1/4 is a much bigger advantage than people want to admit.
So you never want to see a filly race the colts again? There is no way any trainer would send their filly out against colts at the Classic distance at equal weight. EVER
Funny Zenyatta raced with 127 several times against the girls and the Derby weight is 126! Breeders Cup she only received 3lbs off! 😂yet she was the biggest horse caring her weight! Your a clown😮😂😂
@@depalma13 i wish they would just stop with the fillies against colts. They tend to over extend themselves and get hurt. I hate it. Ruffian, Eight Belles, just stop it. Proves nothing.
@@randallrhoads3271 so you didn’t like Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta?
I think they need to let Thorpedo Anna have a test and come back in the Pacific Classic and if she does good, go to the Breeders Cup. She will improve as long as they rest her.
She’s not running against the boys again.
TA is not running in the Classic or facing colts again. Thats it.
She ran out of race , one more stride and she wins, I think her jockey made a mistake and didn’t put in position to win early enough
FAST ANNA WOULD HAVE WON IF SHE WASN'T BLOCKED BY THE JOCKEYS GAME PLAY,THEY INTENTIONALLY BLOCKED HER, EVERYONE KNOWS SHE WAS BLOCKED.
THORPEDO ANNA HAD THE WIN
No stop it...your caps ain't helping either..she was never blocked at any point...stop LYING...we all have eyes,smh...she ran well but came up short...period
If if if 😂😂
LOL. You're new to this I take it. 🤣
Torpedo Anna ran a good race n gave it her all she was awesome but fiercness said move on the side I'm the king here the crown is mine go fiercness you rule your the best
Well…Fierceness did move to her side
Half a yard and she would have won. She was gaining and he was slowing....she was the true winner!
The winner isn't who saves their run to be "coming late" - its who gets to the finish line first. Duh.
Calvin Borel coulda got her through.
No
She would have won if Velazquez maintains his line. Anna was closing hard on the final furlong. If you look at overhead shots and front shots, Velazquez clearly directs Fierceness into Anna’s path pushing her stride and momentum to the right. She lost by a neck. Without that interference, she wins that race. Some might call it aggressive racing, but these horses are not disposable and racing like that should be frowned upon on a straight line to the finish.
She wasn't good enough. Deal with it.
Come over to Del Mar, the water is warm. Late P4 looks like a great proposition today. More info @FastHorsesToday
In the Classic fiercenes will not hit the board
How do you know?
THIS was a horse race !!!
She could have won that! the position was not the best for her, she was always on the rail in his races, after seeing the race maybe the jockey didn't do what he could or expected to do... awesome race by fierceness anyway
Do they break FIERCENESS curse?
Dr Jekyll showed up, not Mr Hyde!
had 8-1 perfecta
Congratulations! I had 8-2 boxed, but had 20 to win on Fierceness. No complaints.
Que le paso a Luis Sáenz ??
Sierra Leone needs a new jockey. Something is not working here. This horse is always running at the end, he should be winning at least one of these races.
Saratoga sucked this year but this stretch duel made it memorable
Poor Sierra Leone he should run on the outside of the track.
Think Sierra Leone needs stepped up in trip at this point
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if sierra Leon's owners want to win a G1 race put Ryan Moore on, his timing is second to none, the other's can't get it right.......
Moore will be on City of Troy but Sierra Leone will surely be trained to break better for the Classic. Both Coolmore horses have big chances this year especially if the torpedo goes to the distaff instead.
Ryan who??? Cmon man. Flavian and Irad aren’t slouches.
Can we please see Ryan moore, on Sierra Leone,maybe it Will make the difference
Sierra Leone needs a young Luis Saez or maybe Calvin Borel. Tyler and Flavian are too nice. This colt has ability. Its going to be a ruthless rider to get him to the winners circle. Now that I'm typing this I think Irad would suit him perfectly.
Ryan Moore? On dirt? Cmon man. Let him stick to grass and also he wins cause he gets the best horses. Irad Ortiz doesn’t need the best horses to win. Flavian is also a better choice than Ryan. 😊
Chad better tell the “Lad” to retire Sierra Leone. He’d already ran his maximum potential. Unless u run him on Gr2 level.
One more stride in tornado Anna would have had him
She ran her heart out..."kudos" to Fierceness as well!! Hirse racing at its very best!! Try the boys again later "Anna"!!😁🏇
I mean…..look at the state of the Jolly!?!….how is a horse supposed to run and breathe properly caked in Dirt…..American Racing….you just can’t take it seriously…..
Still, I would like to see Anna win. But congratulations to Fierceness!
Fierceness won by the skin of his teeth Torpedo Anna had every right to win the race as she had plenty petrol in the tank they will meet again and the result will reverse jockey Hernandez lost ground leaving the rails going to the outside to make his bid so sad for the filly as I said the filly will make the colts look silly it was just a hair breath away I know SL needs twelve furlongs to be effective he will win but the likes of the three horses that conquer him are absent end of story
BS! Fierceness was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. He absolutely lost a good deal more ground during the race than TA did unless you were watching the race with beer goggles on. She was not beating him regardless of trip. 😀
@@ivanboesky1520He also “drifted” to the right down the lane. The head on and overhead tells its own story. It was a fun race to watch. Kudos to both~
It was a great race and I have a ton of respect for TA! Great filly and she will be a serious threat in the BC Classic if she goes.
But the best horse won this race, and I can’t stand it when fans claim their losing horse would have won with a better trip, while simultaneously ignoring the trip advantages she had over other horses like hugging the rail while they are 3-4 wide around both turns and losing multiple lengths to ground loss. 😀
Jockey blew the race by taking her to the outside and tried to make up for all the ground lost vs the MALES. Give her to Irad Ortiz and youll see GREATNESS.By ANNA.
Sierra Leone trainer is either blind or incompetent!Last 4 runs the horse is coming well far from behind,doesn't handle the bend ,runs into trouble, doesnt get a run!!For gods sake let the horse contest the pace ,he is crying out for the lead,he is full of running after the wire! Bring Ryan Moore from Ireland aswell to ride the horse ,looks like US jockey cannot handle him ,5 different jockeys same results!!
Oh shut up. Fucking Ryan Moore on dirt?
The filly got a poor ride
She got a beautiful ride. The difference in why Fierceness won instead of her is that Fierceness has an incredible turn of foot. He can put a lot of distance on the field very quickly. It’s the only reason he won. Anna takes a little longer to get going. She was amazing in defeat.
@@silvereyedstacker1842 I don't think you have watched any of her previous races, she is usually quite handy and kicks off the bend. In this She broke beautifully and he pull her back on the rail to 4th and let a key rival (fierceness) sit on her outside boxing her in and giving away first run. Then Has to get sent 4 wide on the bend giving away more ground before she can straighten and start to close... It was poor.
@@vincnet1982I’ve watched all of her races. She was racing against the boys at a longer distance. Her previous races had much inferior fields. She does not have Fierceness’s turn of foot and gave it everything she has. She definitely has a good turn of foot, even a great one, but it’s not going to look as good against a horse like Fierceness. He won because he was able to spurt away from the field early once they straightened out. You can clearly see when he does it. She still almost ran him down and she likely has better stamina. She might would have gotten him had the race been a little longer. She had a beautiful ground saving trip on the rail. The jockey did everything right. She just ran into another champion.
Fierceness had the widest trip of all of them throughout the race. She also broke from the one hole. There was not very much that could be done about that.
The speed horse was slowing down in front of her, and her jockey was not sure he would be able to get through on the rail. He had to make a quick decision about whether to wait for a hole to open up, or go wide. Not really his fault that the speed collapsed in front of her. And most horses that are on the lead going a mile and a quarter are not going to be the one that is in first at the end. Not really a poor ride, he just didn't get the break he needed to take her up the rail.
@@blueshark3098Agreed. It was a very good ride from the one hole under the circumstances. Like you said, there is not but so much that could have been done.
Hey people from Europe , these are real fucking horses. These 2 horses will romp any horse in the word!!!! Easily!!! Luckily bib baffert didn’t have a chance to race his horses and you would of seen a better competition
Are the horses in Europe not real??? I know they say Frankel was a machine but I thought this was just a play on words. I guess we will find out on the 2nd of November where Europe will once again send over a decent string of horses at the end of a long season to take on the best the US have to offer. I imagine 5 wins will be the aim again for European horses just like last year. They might even take home the Classic as well just for the fun of it.
@@frankelforever14we actually been beating the euro won horses this year. But in dirt!!! In dirt races you guys will never stand a chance bud.
I wanna know were all thhese sierra leone fans are at do the realize now horse is trash
If fierceness was consistent, I would love this victory but thorpedo Anna had a chance to make history and to see it ruined by a kentucky derby favorite that did nothing in that race hurts me.
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She got beat by the better horse plain and simple. And the horses Fierceness has beaten in his 3 grade 1 wins and his grade 2 win are worlds better than any filly TA has ever beaten. That is reality!
Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip.
@ivanboesky1520 Anna has destroyed the fillies not just beat them. She's the better horse. Hopefully Mcpeek gives her another chance against the guys at the BC. Also the rail isn't always the trip you want. If you watched other races today you seen other horses running down the middle.
Cry me a river
TA is an excellent filly, and she will likely be back against the boys in the BC Classic.
But anyone claiming she was the best horse in the race today and would have won with a better trip is talking nonsense!
She got beat by the better horse plain and simple. And the horses Fierceness has beaten in his 3 grade 1 wins and his grade 2 win are worlds better than any filly TA has ever beaten. That is reality!
Fierceness conceded 5 pounds to her today, and was 3-4 wide around the 1st turn and 3 wide around the 2nd turn, while TA hugged the rail. Fierceness was simply the best animal in this race despite some clowns trying to claim TA would have beaten him with a better trip.
Great race, and yes, the best animal in the race won! His mane is Fierceness! 😀
You are wrong, one more stride and she would destroy him, her jockey made an error
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