Neville was the character I related to. He was just so grounded and ordinary, less than average even. He seemed so normal, and felt so human, and I love that despite not being amazing at anything, he was still brave and he still chose to fight the way he knows how, for me that's what a real Gryffindor is.
I don't understand why Rowling didn't make the series about Neville... he was always better molded for the hero's journey in my opinion. Harry's transition into the wizard world was too smooth. I wanted to see a culture crash. Steve Rogers had to make efforts to adapt to the new world - why shouldn't Harry?
He was amazing at many things, growing plants, love and kindness, caring about others, standing up to friends standing up for what he knows is right, organizing people, fighting for what's right.
@@youtubeviolatedme7123 You're completely leaving out the fact that there was very little transition needed for Harry, considering he wasn't used to anything but being belittled, abused and basically treated like a subhuman. He had to adapt to different injustices basically his entire life, pretty much anything at all was already an upgrade for him; if anything, JKR downplayed how mentally strong Harry still was. And in what world didn't Harry have to make efforts to adapt to everything he had to face and deal with after entering the Wizarding World? Harry is literally *the* underdog who overcomes all hardship with his origin and character arc, Neville is a rich pure-blood who still has loving family left, even though his Grandmother is obviously quite intense and often too harsh, and is simply lacking confidence in himself because of that - how is that being "better molded for the hero's journey"? Neville ultimately turned out to be a great man but honestly, as a child / young teenager he probably would have crumbled under the pressure, given his early character traits.
i always thought that "he will mark him as his equal" meant the scar on harry's forehead, making him have a part of voldemort inside of him, like how he's a parseltongue. in a sense, harry does become his equal because he "is" partly voldemort. that's why i always eliminated nevill as a possible chosen one
I disagree that because Harry knew parseltongue that made him Voldemort’s equal. Voldemort and Harry had a lot of the same abilities and powers which is true but could have been an indirect cause of being a unknown horcrux. Tom riddles diary did give Ginny the ability to speak parseltongue albeit she didn’t realize this as she opened the chamber of secrets. Both Voldemort and Harry was being protected from death in albeit in different ways. Such as the horcruxes making Voldemort unable to die and Harry’s mothers love protecting her child from death. If neither could live while the other one was this would cancel out each other’s powers allowing one of them to die by the others hands which was impossible without the elder wand and even so it just destroyed the part of Harry that was a horcrux the part that was connected to Voldemort. Voldemort also chose to go after Harry first based upon the way shape acted thus he already had a linger of mistrust and had to pounce on Lilly and James while he could before snipe could change his mind and help Lilly and James. Thus he chose to go to kill Harry first out of pure necessity and not actually marking him his equal.
Harry Potter: A rich orphan boy with black hair who is destined to defeat the dark lord. Has a remarkable scar on his forehead and also has a powerful wizard ally who manipulate him to sacrifice himself to secure victory. Tony Stark: A rich orphan man with black hair who is destined (1 in 14 million possibilities) to defeat the galactic warlord. Has a remarkable scar on his chest and also has a powerful wizard ally who manipulate him to sacrifice himself to secure victory. Neville Longbottom: A pure heart of gold boy who tries to do the right thing, was being bullied at first but finally become the leader of Dumbledore’s Army who is chosen by Sword of Gryffindor in the end. Steve Rogers: A pure heart of gold man who tries to do the right thing, was being bullied at first (when he was small) but finally become the leader of the Avengers who is chosen by Mjolnir in the end.
Nirawit Karnjanasomwong richer than Ron doesn’t mean much, the Weasleys are clearly defined as being very poor, below the wizard norm Harry didn’t grow up with much though, Tony was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, Harry was born with a near nonexistent old wooden spoon, any wealth he had could only be fully used after he was 18, you don’t compare someone born into luxury vs someone that had to suffer immensely and survive death multiple times. I just don’t see Harry with a huge palace
@@Chan-qk9eh Harry finds out in the first damn book that his parents left him a vault of riches that would last all the way until he graduated... so yes hes relatively wealthy regardless of how the dursleys treated him
I think Merphy's assessment that Voldemort would want to kill both is correct. However, Voldemort didn't mark Harry as his equal by choosing to kill Harry (and Neville). He marked Harry as equal when he left part of his soul in Harry (unintentionally); he literally made Harry his equal because he was in Harry. P.S. Neville is still great!
Riddle and Potter were both Half bloods who grew up without their natural parents. That's a big part of what makes them equals. Longbottom is pureblood.
The only thing that I don't love about the theory is that the "neither can live while the other survives" just so strongly aims to the Horcrux connection (marks him as equal also)... Its hard for me to see past that. Either way Neville is MVP and a solid bro
I'd assume even if Harry died for good, Neville would've kept trying to kill Voldy until either he or Voldy died, which works depending how you interpret the -trap- I mean prophecy lol
For that part, you just have to flip it. Instead of that being the case because of Voldermort, it becomes the case because of Neville. Neville was enduring, and fighting for what comes after the war; by keeping fighting at the moment Voldermort thought he had won, and then killing the last Horcrux, you could argue Neville was fulfilling that part.
it would have been so interesting if Harry actually dies at the end in order to destroy the horcrux inside him, and Neville finishes the job by killing Nagini, and then voldemort himself (making him the real chosen one). This way, Harry's sacrifice will truly cement him as the hero of the story rather than a "chosen one" (which is a title i hate and makes me like harry less, knowing he is always destined to succeed). Also can you IMAGINE how badass of an ending that would be?
Headcanon accepted. I love this so much. Neville is one of my favorite characters too, and I love his arc throughout the series. And God, the image of Harry and him facing Voldermort side by side at the end gives me goosebumps. That would have been an epic scene. Someone needs to write this fic😂 I've just started re-reading Harry Potter because your reviews reminded me how much I love this series. Currently on book 2 and I'm loving being back in this world.
The fact that Bellatrix and co. target the Longbottoms after Voldemort demise indicate Neville was next on his hit list and that why the death eaters think they knew something about what happened to their master. Neville is also one of my favourite character but I think the point of his character is that he wasn't the chosen one, it wasn't his destiny but rather that he the one that chose to make the stand against Voldemort.
That actually would have made Neville even more of a badass, if it wasn't his destiny but in the circumstances of Harry's death he chose to be the one to finish what his friend started. This sort of happens when he stands up to Voldy. But would be cooler if he had killed him to. I'm a big fan of "it's not written in your destiny but you choose to be who you are".
I don‘t really get why Neville wasn’t the First on the hit list. The Potters were in hiding for weeks, while we do not know about any special protection for the Longbottoms.
I have this head canon where Hogwarts houses were originally designed to help children reach their full potential, not just make them more of who they were at 11. That's why I think Neville became the character he did. Everyday he worked on being courageous, on doing things he wasn't comfortable with until he succeeded, on learning how to be confident in who he was. THIS is how schools should work.
Most fans these days believe you're sorted according to the traits you value, rather than the traits you've got. Your House, then, is meant to help you develop those traits, just as you say
It would have been cool to have Neville fight Voldemort directly, side-by-side with Harry. It would have cemented the whole idea that even though Voldemort focused so much on Harry as the only one that could kill him, he was actually wrong. No matter how strong or talented you are, you can always use the help and support of others. And Voldemort, so focused on being immortal and the most powerful, never attributed any importance to the ideas of friendship and love. And plus, to see Harry, the one who was always looked at as "the Chosen one", and Neville, the one character everyone ignored and made fun of, defeat the Dark Lord together, confirming the belief that you can do great things no matter where you come from, or what people are saying about you. It's a really cool idea, I'm glad you made this video :)
Some people don't love using humor around tragedy or those who cause the tragedy. My guess would be that voldy is too silly to catch on directly after his death. That's a possibility that makes sense to me.
For the sake of House pride, can I just say, too, that while, in terms of the trio, Harry was a Slytherin representative, Neville was a Hufflepuff representative? The whole plants and loyalty thing. But Hufflepuff and Gryffindor traits go well together, because you're usually braver when you're fighting for someone else.
Francisco Vargas Ron’s Hufflepuff! It was the trio, not trio and Neville. Neville goes with Luna and Ginny yknow, the ones that led the da, aka the torture recovery room and only part of hogwarts that’s still home when Harry was conveniently away
To everyone under this comment: Harry is not a Slytherin, Hermione is not a Ravenclaw and Ron and Neville are not Hufflepuffs, they are all in Gryffindor, which means THEY ARE ALL GRYFFINDORS, they do not represent other houses, they represent THEIR house! Yes, the hat wanted to put Harry in Slytherin, but Harry was or was put into Gryffindor? And Hermione is not a Ravenclaw, she’s a GRYFFINDOR! She is not open-minded, remember who is gave up Divination? Exactly! (now, I am not sure about this one) Didn’t Hermione judge Luna, like a lot? For being “weird”? A Ravenclaw wouldn’t care less! Ravenclaw is not the smart house, so stop saying that Hermione should be in Ravenclaw just because she likes books! Also the house that you are in does not only represent what you are, represents what you value, if Hermione values bravery and courage the most, than she is GRYFFINDOR. They have traits from other houses? Yes! Everyone probably has traits from every house! That’s NORMAL! But, please, don’s go around saying that the Gryffindor main characters are representatives from Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff or Slytherin.
@@prinkidoodles While I do agree with the fact that since they've been sorted in Gryffindor they shouldn't be representatives of other houses, some of the things you said aren't right; like you said, everyone has some traits from every house, so everyone has a different percentage of traits belonging to each house! The sorting hat initially wanted to put Harry in Slytherin, but since he didn't want to the hat chose to put him in Gryffindor, the other house Harry fit into. Then it's known that the hat had a difficult time sorting Hermione and Neville, because she could've been both Gryffindor and Ravenclaw and he could've been both Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. I'm leaving out Ron because he is mainly a Gryffindor. In conclusion, if you're sorted in a particular house doesn't mean you can't belong to other houses too! x
@@prinkidoodles I actually love this theorie and comparing the characters with others houses. I mean... The houses is very restrictive and not good for children. It's like segregation. You are only defined by the house where you in. That's doesn't work like that. Your major characteristics is part of the house where the hat put you in. But it doesn't mean you are only that. You can be ambitious and yet have morals values. You can be smart without be always in competition to be the smartest.
NEVILLE IS ALSO MY FAVORITE!! He is the one that expresses the most growth and is just so incredible how he goes from a crybaby to one of the most badass characters
Hang on: I thought "the power the Dark Lord knows not" is meant to be friendship? Or the capacity to feel it, rather. Friendship, love, mercy, all that good stuff. Either way, Neville has it, but I can't remember whether it was SPECIFICALLY supposed to be about the protection charm, or about their personal qualities.
I thought it was being a horcrux. I mean, that's what gave him all the magic that kept making his wand do weird stuff and it's the only power that He Who Must not Be Named never knew Harry had. Though to be honest I think it's deliberately hazy, and I think it's probably supposed to be "love". (also, Voldermort never really uses herbology so that could be a power Neville has that he knows not :p )
Always origami No it’s explicitly stated in Half Blood Prince. The Horcrux was Voldemort marking Harry as his equal. Sacrificial charm isn’t that important except it allows Harry to survive - if Nevilles mother or father had been able to make the choice to sacrifice themselves (James also sacrificed himself for Lily but he didn’t have a choice to survive so obviously didn’t help his wife. Full quote: "But I haven't got uncommon skill and power," said Harry, be-fore he could stop himself. "Yes, you have," said Dumbledore firmly. "You have a power that Voldemort has never had. You can -" "I know!" said Harry impatiently. "I can love!" It was only with difficulty that he stopped himself adding, "Big deal!" "Yes, Harry, you can love," said Dumbledore, who looked as though he knew perfectly well what Harry had just refrained from saying. "Which, given everything that has happened to you, is a great and remarkable thing. You are still too young to understand how unusual you are, Harry." "So, when the prophecy says that I'll have 'power the Dark Lord knows not,' it just means - love?" asked Harry, feeling a little let down. "Yes - just love," said Dumbledore.
I think one of the points Dumbledore made to Harry was that the concept of "a Chosen One" was meaningless. The prophecy could have referred to either boy, it's incredibly openly phrased and most of what brings it to pass is the Dark Lord's obsession with it. I'd have liked to hear Harry tell him "There never was a chosen one Tom. Prophecies are just traps and you walked right onto this one. Your own paranoia and greed have undone you and you're going to lose and it's not because of some prophecy. It's because we stand together, and together we are stronger than any wizard alone. Even you."
Prophecies are _totally_ traps! if Voldy has been chill, he wouldn't have gone after Harry, and wouldn't have made Snape switch sides, and then Dumbles wouldn't have his right hand man, and so on and so on😂
Neville is also my favorite. Every time I read Neville’s parts in the books I cry like a baby. My husband found me sobbing one time and I told him that I Love Neville so much and he was like it’s okay lol and gave me a hug.
I almost miss it, but no, a video about Draco! That sounds great. I love hearing your point of view on some of our favourite characters. I can see it is a lot of work and thank you for making our days brighter.
I think the story works fine as is. Neville went from in his own words " Nobody" to an inspiring rebel leader. He was an Everyman who put aside his own fears and insecurities to fight for what's right. He didn't have to be the chosen one, the fact that he was constantly overlooked and underestimated made his arc that much sweeter because it showed that anyone could be a hero if they were willing to step up.
One difficulty with your argument is that you're going against what Dumbledore says in Order of the Phoenix. There he argues strongly with Harry that it is significant that Voldemort saw the child born to a muggleborn as the greater threat. To me, I'm happy with Neville not fully fitting the prophecy. I think his being able to overcome all of the trauma and crap in his life and accomplish everything he did and kill Nagini is just perfect. Just like Harry wasn't compelled by the prophecy to face off against Voldemort and kill him, neither was Neville. However, their love for their parents and their character made them both heroes who brought about his defeat, along with others of course.
Benjamin Acuna I had the same thought process. I really like this theory but I think Voldemort only marked one by choosing the halfblood over the pureblood. The one that he finds is more similar to himself.
I think what Dumbledore said to Harry in this scene, is not so much what he, Dumbledore himself knows to be the case, or even what he thinks has been the case. I think what he tells to Harry is *from the perspective of Voldy,* so why he thinks Voldy went after Harry. If Voldy went after Neville first, he could have killed him, and by then it might have been different when he came to Harry's house. Maybe in that other moment Harry's father would have had his wand on him, so when he did fight Voldy, Lily would have had more time, so she too could have had her wand, and maybe then she would have died in a very different way (fighting Voldy), so that she wouldn't have sacrified herself the way she did in the books now, and so Harry would most probably have died too, and Voldy would have won. Dumbledore tried telling Harry that it was purely Voldy's own fault that things happened as they did. Not because of the prophecy, but because of Voldy's choice to kill Harry (first).
Yeah, totally with you on this. It played a big role that Harry was a half-blood. I don't think Voldy simply was hoping he does the right choice: he truly believed the prophecy couldn't be about anyone else but a half-blood.
Keyboardje well said. I think one piece of the worlds laws that strengthens this is that at one point it is mentioned that not every prophecy comes true. Hence Voldemort could have acted in a way that would have made the prophecy obsolete but in his arrogant choice he made it come true.
The power that Harry has, that the dark lord knows not, was the power of love, if I'm not mistaken. "Your mother died to save you. If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love. He didn't realize that love as powerful as your mother's for you leaves its own mark. Not a scar, no visible sign ... to have been loved so deeply, even though the person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection forever." (PS/SS pg 299/216) So the part about Harry "giving that power" to all other students when he sacrificed himself doesn't seem to mark the spot. Of course, you can draw the line to Neville, the only one his mother still - in all her insanity - gives gifts to etc. etc.
Thank you for this video! I love your ending. Neville was my favorite character.He needed to stand up to all those bullies to learn how to stand up to voldemort.He was an inspiration!
These are all sweet words to my ears... Thank you, thank you for recognizing Neville and the probabilities of this series! I appreciate Rowling's ending but... honestly, this fits so much better and gives such a better punch to the series. Good work!
I have a different head cannon to fit this theory. Neville was marked as voldemort's equal when voldemort singled him out just before he killed nagini. If we think about it, he started doing chosen one stuff after that event.
I like your theory but by your logic, anyone else who destroyed a horcrux was also the chosen one. Nevel destroyed the last one which is significant, but that doesn’t make him the chosen one
Wow I super loved this take on Neville and his role as a potential chosen one. I have never really thought much into it but I do love this take and can see how this fits so well and it really would've been nice to see the series end as you described it. It would have made for a really cool plot twist as well that I'm sure a good majority of us would've never seen coming. Great post!
Here's something that I always thought was interesting, each horcrux was killed by a separate person. Meaning no one person killed/destroyed more than one horcrux. 1. Diary - Harry 2. Ring - Dumbledore 3. Locket - Ron 4. Cup - Hermione 5. Diadem - Crabbe 6. Harry (technically not a horcrux, but a soul fragment) - Voldemort 7. Nagini - Neville Harry destroyed the first Horcrux, and Neville destroyed the last Horcrux.
Few things: The reason Voldemort picked Harry was the symmetry and hatred he saw within himself. Each had muggle lineage and he despised that of himself, leading him to assume it would be this child that could defeat him. Yes dumb, but it's a sociopath, perhaps psychopath, and the connections don't always lead to "normal" conclusions. Looking back at Snape's extreme treatment of Neville after watching this I can't help but think, was much of that because he knew later it could have been Neville dead? Lily could have been spared if Voldemort had just gone after this child? I really like the idea of them taking him down together. Also, the conclusion of Neville's magic struggles being about not having a wand that chose him is awesome!
Great video and tour hair are amazing in this. Neville is indeed special and not only because despite the tragedy of his life, he rose way beyond his fate and abilities to become truly great and a legend of his own right.
Neville has always been one of my favorite characters. I love how his bravery slowly got stronger so that by the end we were surprised and yet not surprised at all by the hero he became.
Don't we hear Voldemort's internal monologue as he's approaching the Potter's house in Deathly Hallows? I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe he thinks that the "incomprehensible" (or something similar) threat to himself will be taken care of once he kills Harry. He doesn't think about needing to kill anyone else after. I feel like I'm tearing down Neville by saying he's not the "Chosen One", but Dumbledore makes clear that the prophecy only mattered because Voldemort made it matter.
Yeah, I believe Voldemort thought it was Harry simply because they had more in common: one of them were pure-blood and that is something that obsessed him. Harry and Lilly were exactly the kind of people he was going after, impure mages, while Neville wasn’t. Things wouldn’t have turned out the way they did if he wouldn’t have chosen Harry, so, as you say, Voldy made the prophecy matter :) Harry was indeed the Chosen One, chosen by Voldemort, marked as his equal with a Horrocrux, but at the same time Neville was needed too for the prophecy to come to fruition, so it’s not tearing down on him, I think!
Ok, thanks, now your theory is totally canon in my head 😂 I love Neville as well, actually one of my top 3 favourite scenes throughout the books is the hospital wrapper scene. Killed me, it absolutely killed me
Love the vid, great head canon! I love Neville's character too and was so glad to see him play such an important role in the books and movies. Growing up alongside the characters has and still is a great experience. Being able to discuss different interpretations like this is part of what I love about the series and Harry Potter will always be one of the best! Hope many future generations can experience it too!
Love Neville, love this theory, love you talking about HP! My only personal issue with the theory is the 'neither can lives while the other survives aspect'. I always understood this as referring to the fact that Harry is a horcrux - he couldn't live (properly) with a piece of Voldy in him, and Voldy couldn't live (literally) because he had made horcruxes in the first place and he isn't whole (or alive) while ever his horcruxes exist. But thank you for sharing this!
@@Shade1453 you only have to Google pictures of the actor on his younger years to see that these details are nothing compared to the changes he had naturally
Will now be rereading the series to see the path of the True Chosen One. Thank you for this amazing video! I really appreciate all the hard work put into this.
Ive never really cared for Neville, but as Ive gown and read more and started writing my own novel I started to appreciate side characters having deep and meaningful plots and arcs along with the main characters. So I grew to accept Neville being a chosen one as well. I think its a good message that even if you dont think you're the main character in your own story, even the bumbling mess up can rise.
I'm pretty sure it is cannon and generally accepted and pretty clear in the text that Neville had equal claim to the title of "chosen one" until Voldemort literally "chose" Harry by trying to kill him. The parallels between him and Harry are quite intentional.
Thanks for the insight. I'm not the biggest follower of Harry Potter. My family loves the series, but don't talk much about Neville. Your argument gives me something to look into or possibly glom onto so I have something to discuss with them. Plus in a general sense, you keep saying how this is your head idea, but different perspectives of the now aged series gives reasons to keep going back to it and enriches it.
Neville has been my favorite character in Harry Potter for a long time. When I saw the last Harry Potter movie for the first time I was so worried that someone else was going to get to kill Nagini and steal his triumph. Thanks for this video :)
Neville taking out Nagini in both the book and the movie was just such poetic justice for me it hits on a different level... Yeah, his parents didn't technically die and he didn't get to do all the crazy stuff and get all the glory... But him going through all of it, not having the right wand, standing up for what he believed in... and then HE is the one who draws the sword of Gryffindor when I'm sure a lot of people in Hogwarts thought he never could, and take down the last Horcrux as a kind of revenge for his parents and all his suffering... I just love it.
I love how Rowling gave any character a different person if you understand like with James the nice guy but used to be a bully and then Neville the shy hero
Can’t wait for the other deep dives! I began this video thinking “psh no way” and ended on a fuzzy feeling I wasn’t expecting. Let’s just say he definitely couldn’t have been the sweater-wearing badass that he was until book 7, he needed the time with Voldy ignoring him.
I like this much! Both boys had to overcome a lot. Both boys exemplified the courage of Gryffindor in different ways. It took both to overcome "Voldy".
I like your head cannon not only does it point out the strengths of Neville (who is also one of my favorite characters) but it also adds more of a depth to Voldemort as a villain.
It would also be nice for Harry's arch. Being the chosen one tends to get in his way more than it helps, having Neville be the true chosen one, or even getting to share the title would actually be nice for Harry.
MIND BLOWN! Never saw Neville in this light before! At the beginning of the series I viewed Neville as the one character that was only there for us to be reminded of the ages of these kids, the one who showed us Harry’s authority or superiority, and even just the average kid that was simply trying to fit in. But I think Rowling did a great job allowing me to follow Neville and watch him unfold into someone that I eventually related to the most. I feel that I would have been the Neville if I went to school with Harry. Also, one problem I see with this: I thought Voldy asked Neville at the end, “And what is your name?” Showing that Voldy didn’t know who Neville was. I do see this as my own head canon now though! AND I would add one more thing I would’ve liked to see evolve throughout the series: Harry with Hermione and Neville with Ginny! ❤️📚⚡️ Love this video, love your channel, keep ‘em comin’!
In a way, Neville is the Samwise of the series in that he's loyal and if it weren't for him, Harry wouldn't have succeeded, making him the unsung hero of the story. They have a lot of similar qualities. And they're both my favourite characters of their respected series. Nice to see another Neville fan. Also, Neville's the one I related to the most since the beginning.
I remember you mentioning this headcannon in a video a long long time ago and have been looking for it forever, and now you've made an entire video about it! Really love your videos and I'm definitely accepting this and making it cannon in my own head :)
Neville is my favorite as well! This just happened during my 1st re-read in January. I compare Neville’s character arc to every character from here on out & there is NO competition! LOL
I’m in middle of a Harry Potter reread and will make sure that I will look out for all the Nievells parts clearly I have underestimated him. In book 1 when he was given points I was surprised that I had such a big grin on my face I’ll shortly start with book 2 and now I have another big reason to be excited And I will make sure I annotate those parts YES FINALLY SOMETHING FUN TO DO IN THE QUARENTINE STAY STAFE EVERONE!!!
Neville was the best friend and human we did not deserve. He is fantastic . A bit like Sam Gamjee I reckon. Fantastic head canon Merphy. I never saw it that way. Great discussion Merphy and thanks in advance for the Draco video.
Harry himself noted that Neville deserves more sympathy than he did in the Goblet of Fire novel. Harry was shocked when he heard this story. Neville found so much support from his friends than from his own family. His grandmother always told him that he was never good enough.
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Only Neville could decapitate Voldemort’s last Horcrux while wearing a cardigan 😂
and still look great while doing it!
@@vidula3094 Roger That vidula!!!
Man was chosen by puberty too. Harry could never rock that sword + cardigan look
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What do you mean he could never rock that sword? He killed a basilisk with it.
@@mid-sizesedan488 Yeah but did he have a cardigan? Nah fam, Neville owns that look.
Harry did rock that jacket though
@@jorgezeron9435 Harry rocked that jacket like hell!
Neville was the character I related to. He was just so grounded and ordinary, less than average even. He seemed so normal, and felt so human, and I love that despite not being amazing at anything, he was still brave and he still chose to fight the way he knows how, for me that's what a real Gryffindor is.
Neville is an Every Man Hero that anyone can relate to. A very well written character
I don't understand why Rowling didn't make the series about Neville... he was always better molded for the hero's journey in my opinion. Harry's transition into the wizard world was too smooth. I wanted to see a culture crash. Steve Rogers had to make efforts to adapt to the new world - why shouldn't Harry?
I thought he was good at herbology
He was amazing at many things, growing plants, love and kindness, caring about others, standing up to friends standing up for what he knows is right, organizing people, fighting for what's right.
@@youtubeviolatedme7123 You're completely leaving out the fact that there was very little transition needed for Harry, considering he wasn't used to anything but being belittled, abused and basically treated like a subhuman. He had to adapt to different injustices basically his entire life, pretty much anything at all was already an upgrade for him; if anything, JKR downplayed how mentally strong Harry still was.
And in what world didn't Harry have to make efforts to adapt to everything he had to face and deal with after entering the Wizarding World? Harry is literally *the* underdog who overcomes all hardship with his origin and character arc, Neville is a rich pure-blood who still has loving family left, even though his Grandmother is obviously quite intense and often too harsh, and is simply lacking confidence in himself because of that - how is that being "better molded for the hero's journey"?
Neville ultimately turned out to be a great man but honestly, as a child / young teenager he probably would have crumbled under the pressure, given his early character traits.
Neville was my dude the second he stabbed that guy in the eyeball with a wand. He was like "I can't magic! But it's still a pointy stick!"
Neville totally went John Wick on him (with a pencil)
I’m all out of spells but I’m not all out of shells.
i always thought that "he will mark him as his equal" meant the scar on harry's forehead, making him have a part of voldemort inside of him, like how he's a parseltongue. in a sense, harry does become his equal because he "is" partly voldemort. that's why i always eliminated nevill as a possible chosen one
When harry becomes a horcrux the fragment of voldemort's soul in Harry is equal to the fragment of voldemort's soul physically in voldemort himself.
Yes, exacly.
Agree. It was having part of Vold's soul in him that marked him as his equal.
I disagree that because Harry knew parseltongue that made him Voldemort’s equal. Voldemort and Harry had a lot of the same abilities and powers which is true but could have been an indirect cause of being a unknown horcrux. Tom riddles diary did give Ginny the ability to speak parseltongue albeit she didn’t realize this as she opened the chamber of secrets. Both Voldemort and Harry was being protected from death in albeit in different ways. Such as the horcruxes making Voldemort unable to die and Harry’s mothers love protecting her child from death. If neither could live while the other one was this would cancel out each other’s powers allowing one of them to die by the others hands which was impossible without the elder wand and even so it just destroyed the part of Harry that was a horcrux the part that was connected to Voldemort. Voldemort also chose to go after Harry first based upon the way shape acted thus he already had a linger of mistrust and had to pounce on Lilly and James while he could before snipe could change his mind and help Lilly and James. Thus he chose to go to kill Harry first out of pure necessity and not actually marking him his equal.
Exactly. Harry’s scar is the MARK that Voldermort left on him, to MARK him as his equal.
Harry Potter: A rich orphan boy with black hair who is destined to defeat the dark lord. Has a remarkable scar on his forehead and also has a powerful wizard ally who manipulate him to sacrifice himself to secure victory.
Tony Stark: A rich orphan man with black hair who is destined (1 in 14 million possibilities) to defeat the galactic warlord. Has a remarkable scar on his chest and also has a powerful wizard ally who manipulate him to sacrifice himself to secure victory.
Neville Longbottom: A pure heart of gold boy who tries to do the right thing, was being bullied at first but finally become the leader of Dumbledore’s Army who is chosen by Sword of Gryffindor in the end.
Steve Rogers: A pure heart of gold man who tries to do the right thing, was being bullied at first (when he was small) but finally become the leader of the Avengers who is chosen by Mjolnir in the end.
Also, Harry and Tony both use time travel😱😂
Rich???!!!!
You mean highly abused and underfed, don’t you
Chana Keller His parents are rich also he’s far richer than Ron
Nirawit Karnjanasomwong richer than Ron doesn’t mean much, the Weasleys are clearly defined as being very poor, below the wizard norm
Harry didn’t grow up with much though, Tony was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, Harry was born with a near nonexistent old wooden spoon, any wealth he had could only be fully used after he was 18, you don’t compare someone born into luxury vs someone that had to suffer immensely and survive death multiple times.
I just don’t see Harry with a huge palace
@@Chan-qk9eh Harry finds out in the first damn book that his parents left him a vault of riches that would last all the way until he graduated... so yes hes relatively wealthy regardless of how the dursleys treated him
I think Merphy's assessment that Voldemort would want to kill both is correct. However, Voldemort didn't mark Harry as his equal by choosing to kill Harry (and Neville). He marked Harry as equal when he left part of his soul in Harry (unintentionally); he literally made Harry his equal because he was in Harry.
P.S. Neville is still great!
I also thought that it would be the horcrux
And the power wasn’t Lily’s death, was love.
Gabi Barbosa yeah, but the way love did that is because Lily sacrified herself for him. Because she loved him. Same with what Harry did
Riddle and Potter were both Half bloods who grew up without their natural parents. That's a big part of what makes them equals. Longbottom is pureblood.
@@DustedinShadow Harry only grew up without his parents because of Voldemort...
The only thing that I don't love about the theory is that the "neither can live while the other survives" just so strongly aims to the Horcrux connection (marks him as equal also)... Its hard for me to see past that. Either way Neville is MVP and a solid bro
Michael Knipp I agree
I'd assume even if Harry died for good, Neville would've kept trying to kill Voldy until either he or Voldy died, which works depending how you interpret the -trap- I mean prophecy lol
except harry becames a horucrux bc voldemort belives harry is the one and not neville.
For that part, you just have to flip it. Instead of that being the case because of Voldermort, it becomes the case because of Neville. Neville was enduring, and fighting for what comes after the war; by keeping fighting at the moment Voldermort thought he had won, and then killing the last Horcrux, you could argue Neville was fulfilling that part.
it would have been so interesting if Harry actually dies at the end in order to destroy the horcrux inside him, and Neville finishes the job by killing Nagini, and then voldemort himself (making him the real chosen one).
This way, Harry's sacrifice will truly cement him as the hero of the story rather than a "chosen one" (which is a title i hate and makes me like harry less, knowing he is always destined to succeed). Also can you IMAGINE how badass of an ending that would be?
amber.E Hard agree
And then Neville could have married Ginny like movie 4 shipped
It still wouldn't make him the chosen one. He simply does not meet the requirements.
I’d never considered it and now I’m kinda mad it wasn’t so
IMAGINE THE CONTROVERSY IF harry was dethroned. i feel like there wouldve been a fan riot
Headcanon accepted. I love this so much. Neville is one of my favorite characters too, and I love his arc throughout the series. And God, the image of Harry and him facing Voldermort side by side at the end gives me goosebumps. That would have been an epic scene. Someone needs to write this fic😂
I've just started re-reading Harry Potter because your reviews reminded me how much I love this series. Currently on book 2 and I'm loving being back in this world.
The fact that Bellatrix and co. target the Longbottoms after Voldemort demise indicate Neville was next on his hit list and that why the death eaters think they knew something about what happened to their master.
Neville is also one of my favourite character but I think the point of his character is that he wasn't the chosen one, it wasn't his destiny but rather that he the one that chose to make the stand against Voldemort.
That actually would have made Neville even more of a badass, if it wasn't his destiny but in the circumstances of Harry's death he chose to be the one to finish what his friend started. This sort of happens when he stands up to Voldy. But would be cooler if he had killed him to. I'm a big fan of "it's not written in your destiny but you choose to be who you are".
I don‘t really get why Neville wasn’t the First on the hit list. The Potters were in hiding for weeks, while we do not know about any special protection for the Longbottoms.
@@maxsteffan5084 they probably were in the same protection, and were ambushed after the war was over when they thought they had nothing more to fear
J.K. Rowling just updated the canon. Turns out Hagrid was the chosen one the whole time!
@@idkkkk-- no I'm Jade
I have this head canon where Hogwarts houses were originally designed to help children reach their full potential, not just make them more of who they were at 11. That's why I think Neville became the character he did. Everyday he worked on being courageous, on doing things he wasn't comfortable with until he succeeded, on learning how to be confident in who he was. THIS is how schools should work.
Most fans these days believe you're sorted according to the traits you value, rather than the traits you've got. Your House, then, is meant to help you develop those traits, just as you say
So what traits was Slytherin supposed to nurture? I could see an argument for competence and achievement over sentiment.
@@1993greeksoldier Ambition, cunning, resourcefulness, loyalty to your close friends and allies
May be Hogwarts is a analogy for British schooling system being garbage
@@samriddhaghosh9458 Can't comment on accuracy, but I enjoy the sentiment.
The gum wrappers in book 5 make me cry and his grandma saying she’s proud of him in book 6 gets to me every time
I've always had a soft spot for Neville. He's such a great character!
It would have been cool to have Neville fight Voldemort directly, side-by-side with Harry. It would have cemented the whole idea that even though Voldemort focused so much on Harry as the only one that could kill him, he was actually wrong. No matter how strong or talented you are, you can always use the help and support of others. And Voldemort, so focused on being immortal and the most powerful, never attributed any importance to the ideas of friendship and love. And plus, to see Harry, the one who was always looked at as "the Chosen one", and Neville, the one character everyone ignored and made fun of, defeat the Dark Lord together, confirming the belief that you can do great things no matter where you come from, or what people are saying about you. It's a really cool idea, I'm glad you made this video :)
I still can't get the fact why didn't everyone call him 'Voldy' when the name 'Voldemort' was tabooed 😛
Some people don't love using humor around tragedy or those who cause the tragedy. My guess would be that voldy is too silly to catch on directly after his death. That's a possibility that makes sense to me.
@@1993greeksoldier How about "Baldymort"?
If Sokka were there, then he surely would have thought of it.
@@Canuovea well that just seems perfect I can't imagine anyone taking issue with that
"Now Voldy's gone moldy, so now let's have fun." -Peeves book 7
neville is a TREASURE and i will adore him until the day that i die. LOVE this deep dive, can’t wait for the next! 💙
For the sake of House pride, can I just say, too, that while, in terms of the trio, Harry was a Slytherin representative, Neville was a Hufflepuff representative? The whole plants and loyalty thing. But Hufflepuff and Gryffindor traits go well together, because you're usually braver when you're fighting for someone else.
Well spotted. Hermione is obviously the Ravenclaw representative, and I guess Ron is the pure Gryffindor
Francisco Vargas Ron’s Hufflepuff!
It was the trio, not trio and Neville. Neville goes with Luna and Ginny yknow, the ones that led the da, aka the torture recovery room and only part of hogwarts that’s still home when Harry was conveniently away
To everyone under this comment: Harry is not a Slytherin, Hermione is not a Ravenclaw and Ron and Neville are not Hufflepuffs, they are all in Gryffindor, which means THEY ARE ALL GRYFFINDORS, they do not represent other houses, they represent THEIR house! Yes, the hat wanted to put Harry in Slytherin, but Harry was or was put into Gryffindor? And Hermione is not a Ravenclaw, she’s a GRYFFINDOR! She is not open-minded, remember who is gave up Divination? Exactly! (now, I am not sure about this one) Didn’t Hermione judge Luna, like a lot? For being “weird”? A Ravenclaw wouldn’t care less! Ravenclaw is not the smart house, so stop saying that Hermione should be in Ravenclaw just because she likes books! Also the house that you are in does not only represent what you are, represents what you value, if Hermione values bravery and courage the most, than she is GRYFFINDOR.
They have traits from other houses? Yes! Everyone probably has traits from every house! That’s NORMAL! But, please, don’s go around saying that the Gryffindor main characters are representatives from Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff or Slytherin.
@@prinkidoodles While I do agree with the fact that since they've been sorted in Gryffindor they shouldn't be representatives of other houses, some of the things you said aren't right; like you said, everyone has some traits from every house, so everyone has a different percentage of traits belonging to each house! The sorting hat initially wanted to put Harry in Slytherin, but since he didn't want to the hat chose to put him in Gryffindor, the other house Harry fit into. Then it's known that the hat had a difficult time sorting Hermione and Neville, because she could've been both Gryffindor and Ravenclaw and he could've been both Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. I'm leaving out Ron because he is mainly a Gryffindor.
In conclusion, if you're sorted in a particular house doesn't mean you can't belong to other houses too! x
@@prinkidoodles I actually love this theorie and comparing the characters with others houses.
I mean... The houses is very restrictive and not good for children. It's like segregation. You are only defined by the house where you in. That's doesn't work like that. Your major characteristics is part of the house where the hat put you in. But it doesn't mean you are only that.
You can be ambitious and yet have morals values. You can be smart without be always in competition to be the smartest.
NEVILLE IS ALSO MY FAVORITE!! He is the one that expresses the most growth and is just so incredible how he goes from a crybaby to one of the most badass characters
Hang on: I thought "the power the Dark Lord knows not" is meant to be friendship? Or the capacity to feel it, rather. Friendship, love, mercy, all that good stuff. Either way, Neville has it, but I can't remember whether it was SPECIFICALLY supposed to be about the protection charm, or about their personal qualities.
The power is love. The capability of feeling love, nothing more. Neville fits that, he obviously feels love for his parents, grandmother, friends
I thought it was being a horcrux. I mean, that's what gave him all the magic that kept making his wand do weird stuff and it's the only power that He Who Must not Be Named never knew Harry had.
Though to be honest I think it's deliberately hazy, and I think it's probably supposed to be "love".
(also, Voldermort never really uses herbology so that could be a power Neville has that he knows not :p )
Always origami No it’s explicitly stated in Half Blood Prince. The Horcrux was Voldemort marking Harry as his equal. Sacrificial charm isn’t that important except it allows Harry to survive - if Nevilles mother or father had been able to make the choice to sacrifice themselves (James also sacrificed himself for Lily but he didn’t have a choice to survive so obviously didn’t help his wife.
Full quote:
"But I haven't got uncommon skill and power," said Harry, be-fore he could stop himself.
"Yes, you have," said Dumbledore firmly. "You have a power that Voldemort has never had. You can -"
"I know!" said Harry impatiently. "I can love!" It was only with difficulty that he stopped himself adding, "Big deal!"
"Yes, Harry, you can love," said Dumbledore, who looked as though he knew perfectly well what Harry had just refrained from saying. "Which, given everything that has happened to you, is a great and remarkable thing. You are still too young to understand how unusual you are, Harry."
"So, when the prophecy says that I'll have 'power the Dark Lord knows not,' it just means - love?" asked Harry, feeling a little let down.
"Yes - just love," said Dumbledore.
It was Lily's love, both that saved him that night and that he took into his new body and gave Harry further protection that saved him at the end.
@@undisclosedperson3871 well that's just Dumbledore's opinion #huff ;p
(Seriously though: yes, fair enough)
I think one of the points Dumbledore made to Harry was that the concept of "a Chosen One" was meaningless. The prophecy could have referred to either boy, it's incredibly openly phrased and most of what brings it to pass is the Dark Lord's obsession with it.
I'd have liked to hear Harry tell him "There never was a chosen one Tom. Prophecies are just traps and you walked right onto this one. Your own paranoia and greed have undone you and you're going to lose and it's not because of some prophecy. It's because we stand together, and together we are stronger than any wizard alone. Even you."
The question naturally becomes, "Chosen by who?"
Harry is the "Chosen One" because VOLDEMORT chose him. There doesn't seem much more to it than that.
Prophecies are _totally_ traps! if Voldy has been chill, he wouldn't have gone after Harry, and wouldn't have made Snape switch sides, and then Dumbles wouldn't have his right hand man, and so on and so on😂
Always origami exactly. It was a selffullfilling prophecy.
Oh wow that was beautifully written :')
There didn't *have* to be a chosen one, but Voldermort believing in the prophecy made sure that there would be.
Neville is also my favorite. Every time I read Neville’s parts in the books I cry like a baby. My husband found me sobbing one time and I told him that I Love Neville so much and he was like it’s okay lol and gave me a hug.
I almost miss it, but no, a video about Draco! That sounds great. I love hearing your point of view on some of our favourite characters. I can see it is a lot of work and thank you for making our days brighter.
I think the story works fine as is. Neville went from in his own words " Nobody" to an inspiring rebel leader. He was an Everyman who put aside his own fears and insecurities to fight for what's right. He didn't have to be the chosen one, the fact that he was constantly overlooked and underestimated made his arc that much sweeter because it showed that anyone could be a hero if they were willing to step up.
One difficulty with your argument is that you're going against what Dumbledore says in Order of the Phoenix. There he argues strongly with Harry that it is significant that Voldemort saw the child born to a muggleborn as the greater threat.
To me, I'm happy with Neville not fully fitting the prophecy. I think his being able to overcome all of the trauma and crap in his life and accomplish everything he did and kill Nagini is just perfect. Just like Harry wasn't compelled by the prophecy to face off against Voldemort and kill him, neither was Neville. However, their love for their parents and their character made them both heroes who brought about his defeat, along with others of course.
Steve Marethyu but that’s for Voldemort not for the prophecy. The prophecy says marks him as equal and to Voldemort he felt it wasn’t a pure blood
Benjamin Acuna I had the same thought process. I really like this theory but I think Voldemort only marked one by choosing the halfblood over the pureblood. The one that he finds is more similar to himself.
I think what Dumbledore said to Harry in this scene, is not so much what he, Dumbledore himself knows to be the case, or even what he thinks has been the case. I think what he tells to Harry is *from the perspective of Voldy,* so why he thinks Voldy went after Harry.
If Voldy went after Neville first, he could have killed him, and by then it might have been different when he came to Harry's house. Maybe in that other moment Harry's father would have had his wand on him, so when he did fight Voldy, Lily would have had more time, so she too could have had her wand, and maybe then she would have died in a very different way (fighting Voldy), so that she wouldn't have sacrified herself the way she did in the books now, and so Harry would most probably have died too, and Voldy would have won.
Dumbledore tried telling Harry that it was purely Voldy's own fault that things happened as they did. Not because of the prophecy, but because of Voldy's choice to kill Harry (first).
Yeah, totally with you on this. It played a big role that Harry was a half-blood. I don't think Voldy simply was hoping he does the right choice: he truly believed the prophecy couldn't be about anyone else but a half-blood.
Keyboardje well said. I think one piece of the worlds laws that strengthens this is that at one point it is mentioned that not every prophecy comes true. Hence Voldemort could have acted in a way that would have made the prophecy obsolete but in his arrogant choice he made it come true.
Neville is sooo underrated. He is possibly my favorite character.
The power that Harry has, that the dark lord knows not, was the power of love, if I'm not mistaken.
"Your mother died to save you. If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love. He didn't realize that love as powerful as your mother's for you leaves its own mark. Not a scar, no visible sign ... to have been loved so deeply, even though the person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection forever." (PS/SS pg 299/216)
So the part about Harry "giving that power" to all other students when he sacrificed himself doesn't seem to mark the spot. Of course, you can draw the line to Neville, the only one his mother still - in all her insanity - gives gifts to etc. etc.
OMG I LOVE THIS BECAUSE NEVILLE IS ABSOLUTELY MY FAVORITE CHARACTER and you know what? I stand with you!
Been waiting for this one
Thank you for this video! I love your ending. Neville was my favorite character.He needed to stand up to all those bullies to learn how to stand up to voldemort.He was an inspiration!
I adore Neville. He didn't get bitter over all the s**t that happened to him but decided to be a better person. He's such a great friend ♥️
I've wanted this video for so long!!!!! I've been fascinated about Neville being the chosen one ever since you spoke about it.
I'm so glad you made this video, Neville is my absolute favorite too! And he's so underrated!
These are all sweet words to my ears... Thank you, thank you for recognizing Neville and the probabilities of this series! I appreciate Rowling's ending but... honestly, this fits so much better and gives such a better punch to the series. Good work!
I have never agreed with you more on any of your videos. Neville deserves all the love, and his arc needed this kind of resolution!
I have a different head cannon to fit this theory. Neville was marked as voldemort's equal when voldemort singled him out just before he killed nagini. If we think about it, he started doing chosen one stuff after that event.
Holy that actually makes sense
I like your theory but by your logic, anyone else who destroyed a horcrux was also the chosen one. Nevel destroyed the last one which is significant, but that doesn’t make him the chosen one
Wow I super loved this take on Neville and his role as a potential chosen one. I have never really thought much into it but I do love this take and can see how this fits so well and it really would've been nice to see the series end as you described it. It would have made for a really cool plot twist as well that I'm sure a good majority of us would've never seen coming. Great post!
Here's something that I always thought was interesting, each horcrux was killed by a separate person. Meaning no one person killed/destroyed more than one horcrux.
1. Diary - Harry
2. Ring - Dumbledore
3. Locket - Ron
4. Cup - Hermione
5. Diadem - Crabbe
6. Harry (technically not a horcrux, but a soul fragment) - Voldemort
7. Nagini - Neville
Harry destroyed the first Horcrux, and Neville destroyed the last Horcrux.
Neville is one of my favorite characters so I really enjoyed this video! Thank you!
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Potterheads : I should have known that you would be here , Professor McGonagall..😌
Few things:
The reason Voldemort picked Harry was the symmetry and hatred he saw within himself. Each had muggle lineage and he despised that of himself, leading him to assume it would be this child that could defeat him. Yes dumb, but it's a sociopath, perhaps psychopath, and the connections don't always lead to "normal" conclusions.
Looking back at Snape's extreme treatment of Neville after watching this I can't help but think, was much of that because he knew later it could have been Neville dead? Lily could have been spared if Voldemort had just gone after this child?
I really like the idea of them taking him down together. Also, the conclusion of Neville's magic struggles being about not having a wand that chose him is awesome!
I love that you accept both Harry and Neville as Chosen Ones, and I completely agree.
Great video and tour hair are amazing in this.
Neville is indeed special and not only because despite the tragedy of his life, he rose way beyond his fate and abilities to become truly great and a legend of his own right.
Neville has always been one of my favorite characters. I love how his bravery slowly got stronger so that by the end we were surprised and yet not surprised at all by the hero he became.
Your videos are the only reason I’m surviving the amount of work I’m getting during this godforsaken quarantine.
I honestly love this head cannon and I think your idea for how the final showdown could have gone is a great one
Don't we hear Voldemort's internal monologue as he's approaching the Potter's house in Deathly Hallows? I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe he thinks that the "incomprehensible" (or something similar) threat to himself will be taken care of once he kills Harry. He doesn't think about needing to kill anyone else after.
I feel like I'm tearing down Neville by saying he's not the "Chosen One", but Dumbledore makes clear that the prophecy only mattered because Voldemort made it matter.
Yeah, I believe Voldemort thought it was Harry simply because they had more in common: one of them were pure-blood and that is something that obsessed him. Harry and Lilly were exactly the kind of people he was going after, impure mages, while Neville wasn’t. Things wouldn’t have turned out the way they did if he wouldn’t have chosen Harry, so, as you say, Voldy made the prophecy matter :)
Harry was indeed the Chosen One, chosen by Voldemort, marked as his equal with a Horrocrux, but at the same time Neville was needed too for the prophecy to come to fruition, so it’s not tearing down on him, I think!
Neville Longbottom is also one of my favourite character❤❤ , did not know he was your fav, love these in depth character analysis
I always enjoy your Harry Potter videos and I also always rewatch them when I‘m bored! Thank god that you’re still making them!
Ok, thanks, now your theory is totally canon in my head 😂 I love Neville as well, actually one of my top 3 favourite scenes throughout the books is the hospital wrapper scene. Killed me, it absolutely killed me
Love the vid, great head canon! I love Neville's character too and was so glad to see him play such an important role in the books and movies. Growing up alongside the characters has and still is a great experience. Being able to discuss different interpretations like this is part of what I love about the series and Harry Potter will always be one of the best! Hope many future generations can experience it too!
You convinced me, congratulations
I love this head cannon! ❤️
Love Neville, love this theory, love you talking about HP! My only personal issue with the theory is the 'neither can lives while the other survives aspect'. I always understood this as referring to the fact that Harry is a horcrux - he couldn't live (properly) with a piece of Voldy in him, and Voldy couldn't live (literally) because he had made horcruxes in the first place and he isn't whole (or alive) while ever his horcruxes exist. But thank you for sharing this!
i got chills when u explained them both fighting Voldemort in the end
Pretty sure he’s everyone’s chosen one because of that huge change the actor had in the movies...
The reason he has appereantly changed so much other than puberty, is that Neville's actor had make up on so he'd look more goofy.
@@wenxiaomei what are you going on about?
@@matheusavila2688 such as in the first movie, they had him wear false teeth to make him more goofy-lookin'.
@@Shade1453 you only have to Google pictures of the actor on his younger years to see that these details are nothing compared to the changes he had naturally
The things you talked about Neville in the first part reminded me how much I love him in the book 🥺
I really enjoy your videos! I love to read and have never watched a youtube channel about books before! Definitely my fave channel!
Will now be rereading the series to see the path of the True Chosen One.
Thank you for this amazing video! I really appreciate all the hard work put into this.
Ive never really cared for Neville, but as Ive gown and read more and started writing my own novel I started to appreciate side characters having deep and meaningful plots and arcs along with the main characters. So I grew to accept Neville being a chosen one as well. I think its a good message that even if you dont think you're the main character in your own story, even the bumbling mess up can rise.
Amazing video! I already love Neville, and it was so lovely to see him celebrated. I can't wait for your Draco analysis
He's my favorite too ! It's nice too see that I am not the only one lmao. I really love the way he grew throughout the series.
I'm pretty sure it is cannon and generally accepted and pretty clear in the text that Neville had equal claim to the title of "chosen one" until Voldemort literally "chose" Harry by trying to kill him. The parallels between him and Harry are quite intentional.
Thanks for the insight. I'm not the biggest follower of Harry Potter. My family loves the series, but don't talk much about Neville. Your argument gives me something to look into or possibly glom onto so I have something to discuss with them. Plus in a general sense, you keep saying how this is your head idea, but different perspectives of the now aged series gives reasons to keep going back to it and enriches it.
This is just so good. I've heard this before, but you explained it in an entertaining way. I definitely think there were 2 chosen ones. Lbs.
Love to see that Neville is finally getting the appreciation he deserves.
Neville has been my favorite character in Harry Potter for a long time. When I saw the last Harry Potter movie for the first time I was so worried that someone else was going to get to kill Nagini and steal his triumph. Thanks for this video :)
Neville taking out Nagini in both the book and the movie was just such poetic justice for me it hits on a different level... Yeah, his parents didn't technically die and he didn't get to do all the crazy stuff and get all the glory... But him going through all of it, not having the right wand, standing up for what he believed in... and then HE is the one who draws the sword of Gryffindor when I'm sure a lot of people in Hogwarts thought he never could, and take down the last Horcrux as a kind of revenge for his parents and all his suffering... I just love it.
I love how Rowling gave any character a different person if you understand like with James the nice guy but used to be a bully and then Neville the shy hero
Because of videos like this I've always liked Neville, but I think this is the video that has made me want to watch/read the series.
Neville and Luna have always been my favorite. I never wanted them together like some did but I just think they are the most underrated characters
neville is honestly my favourite character in the whole series and his scenes both in the books/movies made me the happiest to watch
Once you started I saw where you were going to and I bought the idea. I didn't even have to wait for the hole video to play out.
Can’t wait for the other deep dives! I began this video thinking “psh no way” and ended on a fuzzy feeling I wasn’t expecting. Let’s just say he definitely couldn’t have been the sweater-wearing badass that he was until book 7, he needed the time with Voldy ignoring him.
Great job, Merphy! I think this is one of your best-edited videos!
Great video about Neville! He is indeed a great character. I am loving your videos so much!
I like this much! Both boys had to overcome a lot. Both boys exemplified the courage of Gryffindor in different ways. It took both to overcome "Voldy".
Omg i love this idea!! I think everyone can get on board with more neville, how can you not like him 💕
I like your head cannon not only does it point out the strengths of Neville (who is also one of my favorite characters) but it also adds more of a depth to Voldemort as a villain.
Neville is such an amazing underrated character. I really like your take on it!
I’m a language arts teacher, so of course I love reading, and I just discovered your channel a couple days ago! Keep up the fascinating content!
It would also be nice for Harry's arch. Being the chosen one tends to get in his way more than it helps, having Neville be the true chosen one, or even getting to share the title would actually be nice for Harry.
This may sound dramatic but you describing Neville just genuinely made me cry 💙
MIND BLOWN! Never saw Neville in this light before! At the beginning of the series I viewed Neville as the one character that was only there for us to be reminded of the ages of these kids, the one who showed us Harry’s authority or superiority, and even just the average kid that was simply trying to fit in. But I think Rowling did a great job allowing me to follow Neville and watch him unfold into someone that I eventually related to the most. I feel that I would have been the Neville if I went to school with Harry. Also, one problem I see with this: I thought Voldy asked Neville at the end, “And what is your name?” Showing that Voldy didn’t know who Neville was. I do see this as my own head canon now though! AND I would add one more thing I would’ve liked to see evolve throughout the series: Harry with Hermione and Neville with Ginny! ❤️📚⚡️ Love this video, love your channel, keep ‘em comin’!
Amazing! Love every point you've mentioned. I ADORE Neville and I definitely think he was just as important as anyone else in the book.
Your videos always give such great perspectives! Love it!
Petting a black cat while saying "the prophecy is vague" is pretty on-brand for this conversation. Great video!
In a way, Neville is the Samwise of the series in that he's loyal and if it weren't for him, Harry wouldn't have succeeded, making him the unsung hero of the story. They have a lot of similar qualities. And they're both my favourite characters of their respected series. Nice to see another Neville fan. Also, Neville's the one I related to the most since the beginning.
I remember you mentioning this headcannon in a video a long long time ago and have been looking for it forever, and now you've made an entire video about it! Really love your videos and I'm definitely accepting this and making it cannon in my own head :)
Neville is my favorite as well! This just happened during my 1st re-read in January. I compare Neville’s character arc to every character from here on out & there is NO competition! LOL
I loved both the snape analysis and this one. So thorough! I would watch for any character you did lol
you've convinced me!! great analysis Merphy!!
Hello Merphy hope you are having a wonderful day/week keep up the good work
Dang Merph, got me tearing up. This video has some good writing :)
so happy the HP videos are back!! always so calming and fun:)) perfect for chilling in quarantine
I’m in middle of a Harry Potter reread and will make sure that I will look out for all the Nievells parts clearly I have underestimated him. In book 1 when he was given points I was surprised that I had such a big grin on my face I’ll shortly start with book 2 and now I have another big reason to be excited
And I will make sure I annotate those parts YES FINALLY SOMETHING FUN TO DO IN THE QUARENTINE
STAY STAFE EVERONE!!!
Neville was the best friend and human we did not deserve. He is fantastic . A bit like Sam Gamjee I reckon.
Fantastic head canon Merphy. I never saw it that way. Great discussion Merphy and thanks in advance for the Draco video.
Harry himself noted that Neville deserves more sympathy than he did in the Goblet of Fire novel. Harry was shocked when he heard this story. Neville found so much support from his friends than from his own family. His grandmother always told him that he was never good enough.